Let's compare the 3DS and Vita after 4 months.

I own both of these amazing systems. I've had a 3DS since about October 2011, and a Vita since last Thursday. I have 6 great games for 3DS, Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, Rayman 3D, Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition and Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars. I only bought 1 game for the Vita, Mortal Kombat, but it's a good representation of the power that the Vita has to offer, and it's a very strong port with even more content than the Komplete Edition recently released on home console. I still want to get Kid Icarus: Uprising, Resident Evil: Revelations and Star Fox 64 for the 3DS, and I still want to get Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Gravity Rush, Rayman Origins and Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 for the Vita.

People are probably thinking, "yeah, okay, I don't give a **** what games you have or what you want to buy". Well, I kinda feel the need to explain that I have both the 3DS and Vita, and enjoy both of them, because Nintendo fanboys always seemed threatened whenever their system is brought into question.

After talking about the current generation of home consoles for so long, it's starting to get boring. I'm ready for the new generation of consoles to come along. We've been talking about the 360, Wii and PS3 for 7 years now. At least the 3DS and Vita are relatively new, which make them more interesting topics of discussion.

After all of the Vita talk around here lately, I could have sworn there was one of these laying around SW's door step.

Because so many people are jumping to conclusions about the Vita, forgetting that it's a 4 month old system.

Here's a thread to bring everyone back to reality, showing comparisons of the 3DS after 4 months compared to the Vita after 4 months.

Price:

3DS - $250

PSVita - $250

Now okay, you must be thinking, yeah, they're the same price. Everyone on SW seems to think that the Vita is overpriced, a money grab, but let's take a closer look at the situation.

Dimensions:

Weight:

Screen:

Processor:

Graphics:

RAM:

Wireless:

Ask any PC enthusiast if they would be caught dead paying top dollar for a PC with a Radeon 9800, 2 gigs of RAM, 100 gig harddrive, Dual Core processor, with a 13 inch monitor. Think they'd pay the same price for that as their current rig? It's the same thing with the 3DS and Vita, saying the Vita is overpriced is absurd when it cost just as much as the 3DS did at launch.

Here's a list of the top scoring games for each system within 4 months of launch.

Highest Scoring Games (Gamerankings):

3DS:

1. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D - 93.84%
2. Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition - 86.57%
3. Dead or Alive: Dimensions - 82.16%
4. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars - 78.93%
5. Ridge Racer 3D - 74.62%
6. LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean: The Video Game - 74.40%
7. Nintendogs + Cats - 74.40%
8. Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 3D - 73.87%
9. Pilotwings Resort - 71.91%
10. LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars - 69.53%

Average: 78.02%

PSVita:

1. Rayman Origins - 89.58%
2. Mortal Kombat 87.69%
3. Lumines: Electronic Symphony - 84.31%
4. Metal Gear Solid HD Collection - 82.92%
5. Gravity Rush - 82.74%
6. BlazBlue: Contiuum Shift Extend - 82.13%
7. Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 - 81.66%
8. Uncharted: Golden Abyss - 80.63%
9. Fifa Soccer - 80.33%
10. Wipeout 2048 - 80.09%

Average: 83.21

So there you have it, the Vita has a better library than the 3DS did within 4 months of launch. I find it surprising that the Vita has 10 games rated above an 80% within 4 months of launch.

Having a better library does not translate into more sales without any system sellers after four months.I actually interested in both system currently and I may buy one of them if I don;t end up getting a WiiU.

Too bad Vita isn't competing with a 4 month old 3DS.

So here's an important question: is the Vita competing with the 3DS as it was four months after its launch, or is it competing with the 3DS as it is NOW? It doesn't matter how badly Nintendo dropped the ball with the 3DS, because they picked it up again, and the 3DS is on a roll right now. As a matter of fact, it makes Sony look worse, that in SPITE of Nintendo doing so badly for the first six months, they STILL couldn't kill the 3DS with what seemed to be a competitively priced handheld with a great lineup. I mean, everybody, including us, will compare the two systems as they ARE right now, not as they were four months after launch each. But hey, if it makes you feel better about your purchase, by all means go ahead and make the most meaningless comparison of all time. Me, I'm going to compare the PS3 and Xbox 360 pre May 2008, okay?charizard1605

I thought that you would be able to make sense of this thread rather than making a damage control post. It's not about pretending the last 11 months of the 3DS don't exist. It's a matter of putting things into perspective, meaning it makes no sense to draw such major conclusions about a system after 4 months of it being on the market.

Were the conclusions everyone made about the 3DS after 4 months on the market accurate?

The PS Vita is going after the wrong market I think. I own one, and I like it, but I'm not obscure to the fact that it has problems. Vita needs it's own identity, not just a "mobile PS3".

Great lineup of multiplats the Vitas got there.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]So here's an important question: is the Vita competing with the 3DS as it was four months after its launch, or is it competing with the 3DS as it is NOW? It doesn't matter how badly Nintendo dropped the ball with the 3DS, because they picked it up again, and the 3DS is on a roll right now. As a matter of fact, it makes Sony look worse, that in SPITE of Nintendo doing so badly for the first six months, they STILL couldn't kill the 3DS with what seemed to be a competitively priced handheld with a great lineup. I mean, everybody, including us, will compare the two systems as they ARE right now, not as they were four months after launch each. But hey, if it makes you feel better about your purchase, by all means go ahead and make the most meaningless comparison of all time. Me, I'm going to compare the PS3 and Xbox 360 pre May 2008, okay?arkephonic

I thought that you would be able to make sense of this thread rather than making a damage control post. It's not about pretending the last 11 months of the 3DS don't exist. It's a matter of putting things into perspective, meaning it makes no sense to draw such major conclusions about a system after 4 months of it being on the market.

Were the conclusions everyone made about the 3DS after 4 months on the market accurate?

Too bad Vita isn't competing with a 4 month old 3DS.

Thefatness16

Great thread.

Unfortunately the Vita isn't competing against a 4 month old 3DS, but you do make a good point. People around here seem to forget the terrible start the 3DS got off to.

There is still plenty of time for the PSV to start picking up steam.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]So here's an important question: is the Vita competing with the 3DS as it was four months after its launch, or is it competing with the 3DS as it is NOW? It doesn't matter how badly Nintendo dropped the ball with the 3DS, because they picked it up again, and the 3DS is on a roll right now. As a matter of fact, it makes Sony look worse, that in SPITE of Nintendo doing so badly for the first six months, they STILL couldn't kill the 3DS with what seemed to be a competitively priced handheld with a great lineup. I mean, everybody, including us, will compare the two systems as they ARE right now, not as they were four months after launch each. But hey, if it makes you feel better about your purchase, by all means go ahead and make the most meaningless comparison of all time. Me, I'm going to compare the PS3 and Xbox 360 pre May 2008, okay?charizard1605

I thought that you would be able to make sense of this thread rather than making a damage control post. It's not about pretending the last 11 months of the 3DS don't exist. It's a matter of putting things into perspective, meaning it makes no sense to draw such major conclusions about a system after 4 months of it being on the market.

Were the conclusions everyone made about the 3DS after 4 months on the market accurate?

Why would you just dismiss Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty as if they're insignificant? Not saying those are the Vita's saving grace, but that's pretty funny that you say a franchise like Call of Duty is meaningless. This isn't a Call of Duty DS like you're used to. I'm sure that games like LittleBigPlanet Vita, Persona 4 Golden, Silent Hill Book of Memories and Ragnarok Odyssey will have an impact, but I find it rather funny that you're so quick to dismiss a game like AC: Liberations and CoD: DeClassified. The AC:L gameplay at E3 looked amazing.

You know, like you're saying Pokemon Rumble Blast, Resident Evil Mercenaries, some cancelled games like Megaman Legends, Saints Row Drive By and Assassin's Creed are significant, but Call of Duty Declassified and Assassin's Creed Liberations announcements are insignificant? On a handheld that is capable of faithfully recreating the core gameplay experiences of the franchises?

Plus, I think games like Virtue's Last Reward will help attract some of the Japanese market, and they're important for handhelds.

Good thread.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I thought that you would be able to make sense of this thread rather than making a damage control post. It's not about pretending the last 11 months of the 3DS don't exist. It's a matter of putting things into perspective, meaning it makes no sense to draw such major conclusions about a system after 4 months of it being on the market.

Were the conclusions everyone made about the 3DS after 4 months on the market accurate?

arkephonic

Why would you just dismiss Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty as if they're insignificant? Not saying those are the Vita's saving grace, but that's pretty funny that you say a franchise like Call of Duty is meaningless. This isn't a Call of Duty DS like you're used to. I'm sure that games like LittleBigPlanet Vita, Persona 4 Golden, Silent Hill Book of Memories and Ragnarok Odyssey will have an impact, but I find it rather funny that you're so quick to dismiss a game like AC: Liberations and CoD: DeClassified. The AC:L gameplay at E3 looked amazing.

The PS Vita is going after the wrong market I think. I own one, and I like it, but I'm not obscure to the fact that it has problems. Vita needs it's own identity, not just a "mobile PS3".

dream431ca

Lets be real, while its cool to hate the Vita right now, there is by no means a "shortage" or a "dire need" for games on the platform. You can argue the price difference all you want and that is understandable, but as for people who actually buy the system, if you cannot find something to play that is your problem.

-Metal Gear Solid HD collection ( just came out a few days ago)

-Assassins Creed: Liberation

-the eventual Grand Theft Auto game (which will probably be a spinnof tied into the release of GTA5 in the same manner as AC: Liberation)

-Mortal Combat (availble now)

-Sly Cooper (availible in 3 months)

-Call of Duty: Black Ops Declassified (available this fall)

-Gravity Rush (available right now)

-Rayman Orgins

-Rayman Legends

-Final Fantasy 10 remake

Thats just off the top of my head. Literally the ONLY reason to not own a Vita right now is its price, and all this phuckery reguarding expensive memory sticks. Outside of this, the notion that the platform is in dire need of games is silly.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I knew that was coming, so here it goes: After four months on the market, the 3DS had the following first and third party games announced, and all of them were a) indicative of confidence in the system, b) a rich upcoming library of games from all fronts, and c) mostly system sellers: Animal Crossing, Paper Mario, Mario Kart, Super Mario 3D Land, Kid Icarus, Resident Evil: Revelations, Kingdom Hearts 3D, Metal Gear Solid 3D, Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D, Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle, Layton vs Wright, Pokemon, Monster Hunter, Shin Megami Tensei, an Assassin's Creed game (later canceled), Megaman Legends 3 (later canceled), Saints Row: Drive By (later canceled), Luigi's Mansion 2... What does the Vita have announced for it remotely of the same caliber? The 3DS was in a remarkably similar position to the PS3 following its launch: high priced successor to an insanely popular system, with no games, but tons of great future support announced. It was only a matter of time, we just had to wait. The Vita? What does the Vita have that will save it? A Call of Duty game with nothing but a spec ops campaign? An Assassin's Creed spin off? PS3 ports of first party games?charizard1605

Why would you just dismiss Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty as if they're insignificant? Not saying those are the Vita's saving grace, but that's pretty funny that you say a franchise like Call of Duty is meaningless. This isn't a Call of Duty DS like you're used to. I'm sure that games like LittleBigPlanet Vita, Persona 4 Golden, Silent Hill Book of Memories and Ragnarok Odyssey will have an impact, but I find it rather funny that you're so quick to dismiss a game like AC: Liberations and CoD: DeClassified. The AC:L gameplay at E3 looked amazing.

You know, like you're saying Pokemon Rumble Blast, Resident Evil Mercenaries, some cancelled games like Megaman Legends, Saints Row Drive By and Assassin's Creed are significant, but Call of Duty Declassified and Assassin's Creed Liberations announcements are insignificant? On a handheld that is capable of faithfully recreating the core gameplay experiences of the franchises?

There's a big difference between a game like CoD and AC running on DS hardware and running on Vita hardware. Vita hardware can actually run the core game engine that Ubisoft and Activision made a fortune on. The DS and 3DS can't run the game engine for AC or CoD, it's just not possible. You'd be naive to think that the Vita experience will be just like the DS one.

I wonder which handheld Hitler would have chosen.tagyhag

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Why would you just dismiss Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty as if they're insignificant? Not saying those are the Vita's saving grace, but that's pretty funny that you say a franchise like Call of Duty is meaningless. This isn't a Call of Duty DS like you're used to. I'm sure that games like LittleBigPlanet Vita, Persona 4 Golden, Silent Hill Book of Memories and Ragnarok Odyssey will have an impact, but I find it rather funny that you're so quick to dismiss a game like AC: Liberations and CoD: DeClassified. The AC:L gameplay at E3 looked amazing.

arkephonic

You know, like you're saying Pokemon Rumble Blast, Resident Evil Mercenaries, some cancelled games like Megaman Legends, Saints Row Drive By and Assassin's Creed are significant, but Call of Duty Declassified and Assassin's Creed Liberations announcements are insignificant? On a handheld that is capable of faithfully recreating the core gameplay experiences of the franchises?

There's a big difference between a game like CoD and AC running on DS hardware and running on Vita hardware. Vita hardware can actually run the core game engine that Ubisoft and Activision made a fortune on. The DS and 3DS can't run the game engine for AC or CoD, it's just not possible. You'd be naive to think that the Vita experience will be just like the DS one.

The key difference between the 3ds's launch and the vita's launch is that we already knew that the games were coming. For the vita it's just nothing but a bunch of blank titles that we know next to nothing about and could probably become vaporwareShinobishyguy

THIS!!!!!!

The games we are seeing this holiday we knew about when the 3DS was announced. I don't see anything on the horizon for Vita.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] CoD: DecIassified is a spec ops mission based game. It literally is nothing special. Plus, how have Call of Duty games been on handhelds before, not just the DS? If the game is so good, why have we still not seen anything about it before> Assassin's Creed? I'm wary. It looks good, but so did the PSP game and the DS game when they were announced, and they both sucked. Assassin's Creed has a crap history on handhelds.charizard1605

You know, like you're saying Pokemon Rumble Blast, Resident Evil Mercenaries, some cancelled games like Megaman Legends, Saints Row Drive By and Assassin's Creed are significant, but Call of Duty Declassified and Assassin's Creed Liberations announcements are insignificant? On a handheld that is capable of faithfully recreating the core gameplay experiences of the franchises?

There's a big difference between a game like CoD and AC running on DS hardware and running on Vita hardware. Vita hardware can actually run the core game engine that Ubisoft and Activision made a fortune on. The DS and 3DS can't run the game engine for AC or CoD, it's just not possible. You'd be naive to think that the Vita experience will be just like the DS one.

I think that's a pretty irrational line of thinking to just dismiss upcoming games because they might be crap. It's just a pessimistic point of view. It's like saying, "well, there's no point in waking up tomorrow, probably gonna have a ****ty day anyways and maybe get hit by a truck......"

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

You know, like you're saying Pokemon Rumble Blast, Resident Evil Mercenaries, some cancelled games like Megaman Legends, Saints Row Drive By and Assassin's Creed are significant, but Call of Duty Declassified and Assassin's Creed Liberations announcements are insignificant? On a handheld that is capable of faithfully recreating the core gameplay experiences of the franchises?

There's a big difference between a game like CoD and AC running on DS hardware and running on Vita hardware. Vita hardware can actually run the core game engine that Ubisoft and Activision made a fortune on. The DS and 3DS can't run the game engine for AC or CoD, it's just not possible. You'd be naive to think that the Vita experience will be just like the DS one.

arkephonic

I think that's a pretty irrational line of thinking to just dismiss upcoming games because they might be crap. It's just a pessamistic point of view. It's like saying, "well, there's no point in waking up tomorrow, probably gonna have a ****ty day anyways and maybe get hit by a truck......"

The 3DS isn't 4 months old anymore chap.

A few Japanese hits like Soul Sacrafice and a price drop around October and the Vita will be fine.

A few Japanese hits like Soul Sacrafice and a price drop around October and the Vita will be fine.

AM-Gamer

In his next thread, he's going to compare and contrast the Vita with a rotary phone from 1962 five months after their respective releases. Maybe this time the Vita might come out on top!

how about we compare them now? where the 3ds was at 4 months is irrelevant. owning a vita over a 3ds right now is dumbmems_1224

Anyone who could aford both would pick a Vita over a 3ds . Its simply a superior system the 3ds is a childs toy with a screen on it that looks horrid.

In his next thread, he's going to compare and contrast the Vita with a rotary phone from 1962 five months after their respective releases. Maybe this time the Vita might come out on top!

gensigns

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]how about we compare them now? where the 3ds was at 4 months is irrelevant. owning a vita over a 3ds right now is dumbAM-Gamer

Anyone who could aford both would pick a Vita over a 3ds . Its simply a superior system the 3ds is a childs toy with a screen on it that looks horrid.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]how about we compare them now? where the 3ds was at 4 months is irrelevant. owning a vita over a 3ds right now is dumbAM-Gamer

Anyone who could aford both would pick a Vita over a 3ds . Its simply a superior system the 3ds is a childs toy with a screen on it that looks horrid.

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]how about we compare them now? where the 3ds was at 4 months is irrelevant. owning a vita over a 3ds right now is dumbcharizard1605

Anyone who could aford both would pick a Vita over a 3ds . Its simply a superior system the 3ds is a childs toy with a screen on it that looks horrid.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]I'm listing games like Mercenaries and Megaman to prove that upcoming games may not even release and if they do, they might be crap, so it's no point using them as arguing chips.charizard1605

I think that's a pretty irrational line of thinking to just dismiss upcoming games because they might be crap. It's just a pessamistic point of view. It's like saying, "well, there's no point in waking up tomorrow, probably gonna have a ****ty day anyways and maybe get hit by a truck......"

The point of this thread was to show how short sighted it is to declare a forgone conclusion of a system that's only been out for 4 months. To make things even more irrational, you're saying that the upcoming games for a 4 month old system are irrelevant because they'll, "probably suck". It's just childish sounding, TBH. You're the one that turned this into a direct 3DS vs Vita library comparison, when that was never my intent. I never said that the Vita had a better library than the 3DS as of today. It sounds to me like you have a personal beef with the Vita, but I don't have a problem with either. Like I said, I have both a Vita and a 3DS and I enjoy both. I'm fairly certain you only own a 3DS, so it is understandable that you have a noticeable bias against the Vita and most likely want it to fail.

Lets be real, while its cool to hate the Vita right now, there is by no means a "shortage" or a "dire need" for games on the platform. You can argue the price difference all you want and that is understandable, but as for people who actually buy the system, if you cannot find something to play that is your problem.

-Metal Gear Solid HD collection ( just came out a few days ago)

-Assassins Creed: Liberation

-the eventual Grand Theft Auto game (which will probably be a spinnof tied into the release of GTA5 in the same manner as AC: Liberation)

-Mortal Combat (availble now)

-Sly Cooper (availible in 3 months)

-Call of Duty: Black Ops Declassified (available this fall)

-Gravity Rush (available right now)

-Rayman Orgins

-Rayman Legends

-Final Fantasy 10 remake

Thats just off the top of my head. Literally the ONLY reason to not own a Vita right now is its price, and all this phuckery reguarding expensive memory sticks. Outside of this, the notion that the platform is in dire need of games is silly.

StrongDeadlift

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I think that's a pretty irrational line of thinking to just dismiss upcoming games because they might be crap. It's just a pessamistic point of view. It's like saying, "well, there's no point in waking up tomorrow, probably gonna have a ****ty day anyways and maybe get hit by a truck......"

arkephonic

The point of this thread was to show how short sighted it is to declare a forgone conclusion of a system that's only been out for 4 months. To make things even more irrational, you're saying that the upcoming games for a 4 month old system are irrelevant because they'll, "probably suck". It's just childish sounding, TBH. You're the one that turned this into a direct 3DS vs Vita library comparison, when that was never my intent. I never said that the Vita had a better library than the 3DS as of today. It sounds to me like you have a personal beef with the Vita, but I don't have a problem with either. Like I said, I have both a Vita and a 3DS and I enjoy both. I'm fairly certain you only own a 3DS, so it is understandable that you have a noticeable bias against the Vita and most likely want it to fail.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I think that's a pretty irrational line of thinking to just dismiss upcoming games because they might be crap. It's just a pessamistic point of view. It's like saying, "well, there's no point in waking up tomorrow, probably gonna have a ****ty day anyways and maybe get hit by a truck......"

arkephonic

The point of this thread was to show how short sighted it is to declare a forgone conclusion of a system that's only been out for 4 months. To make things even more irrational, you're saying that the upcoming games for a 4 month old system are irrelevant because they'll, "probably suck". It's just childish sounding, TBH. You're the one that turned this into a direct 3DS vs Vita library comparison, when that was never my intent. I never said that the Vita had a better library than the 3DS as of today. It sounds to me like you have a personal beef with the Vita, but I don't have a problem with either. Like I said, I have both a Vita and a 3DS and I enjoy both. I'm fairly certain you only own a 3DS, so it is understandable that you have a noticeable bias against the Vita and most likely want it to fail.

I forgot to add, you say that the 3DS trumps the Vita, but saying that a 15 month old system's library trumps a 4 month old system's library is like common sense. I'd say the Vita's 5 inch OLED touchscreen, 512mb of RAM, quad-core processor and quad-core GPU trump the 3DS, wouldn't you? I know you haven't played a Vita, but man, when you play a 3DS and then a Vita, then back to a 3DS and back to a Vita, it really makes it painfully obvious.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I think that's a pretty irrational line of thinking to just dismiss upcoming games because they might be crap. It's just a pessamistic point of view. It's like saying, "well, there's no point in waking up tomorrow, probably gonna have a ****ty day anyways and maybe get hit by a truck......"

arkephonic

The point of this thread was to show how short sighted it is to declare a forgone conclusion of a system that's only been out for 4 months. To make things even more irrational, you're saying that the upcoming games for a 4 month old system are irrelevant because they'll, "probably suck". It's just childish sounding, TBH. You're the one that turned this into a direct 3DS vs Vita library comparison, when that was never my intent. I never said that the Vita had a better library than the 3DS as of today. It sounds to me like you have a personal beef with the Vita, but I don't have a problem with either. Like I said, I have both a Vita and a 3DS and I enjoy both. I'm fairly certain you only own a 3DS, so it is understandable that you have a noticeable bias against the Vita and most likely want it to fail.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] No, it serves to make my point, which is simple: you have to evaluate both systems as they are right now, not as they were four months after launch, not as they will be four months from now. Evaluate them as they are now. In this thread, you've tried sending the Vita by talking about the 3DS's past and the Vita's future, and the reason is simple, because in the here and now, the Vita is thoroughly trumped by the 3DS, there's no argument to make. mems_1224

The point of this thread was to show how short sighted it is to declare a forgone conclusion of a system that's only been out for 4 months. To make things even more irrational, you're saying that the upcoming games for a 4 month old system are irrelevant because they'll, "probably suck". It's just childish sounding, TBH. You're the one that turned this into a direct 3DS vs Vita library comparison, when that was never my intent. I never said that the Vita had a better library than the 3DS as of today. It sounds to me like you have a personal beef with the Vita, but I don't have a problem with either. Like I said, I have both a Vita and a 3DS and I enjoy both. I'm fairly certain you only own a 3DS, so it is understandable that you have a noticeable bias against the Vita and most likely want it to fail.

What are you trying to say, that Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, Ocarina of Time 3D and games of that nature aren't enjoyable? I thought they were pretty fun.... :?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] No, it serves to make my point, which is simple: you have to evaluate both systems as they are right now, not as they were four months after launch, not as they will be four months from now. Evaluate them as they are now. In this thread, you've tried sending the Vita by talking about the 3DS's past and the Vita's future, and the reason is simple, because in the here and now, the Vita is thoroughly trumped by the 3DS, there's no argument to make. charizard1605

The point of this thread was to show how short sighted it is to declare a forgone conclusion of a system that's only been out for 4 months. To make things even more irrational, you're saying that the upcoming games for a 4 month old system are irrelevant because they'll, "probably suck". It's just childish sounding, TBH. You're the one that turned this into a direct 3DS vs Vita library comparison, when that was never my intent. I never said that the Vita had a better library than the 3DS as of today. It sounds to me like you have a personal beef with the Vita, but I don't have a problem with either. Like I said, I have both a Vita and a 3DS and I enjoy both. I'm fairly certain you only own a 3DS, so it is understandable that you have a noticeable bias against the Vita and most likely want it to fail.

I'm not justifying anything. I have a receipt with the system you know. If I wanted to return it, I have 2 months from now to do so. Guess what? I'm not gonna return it because I like it. I have every system, there's no reason to justify anything. I could buy multiple Vitas if I wanted to, it's not like I'm strapped for cash and had to make sacrifices.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] No, it serves to make my point, which is simple: you have to evaluate both systems as they are right now, not as they were four months after launch, not as they will be four months from now. Evaluate them as they are now. In this thread, you've tried sending the Vita by talking about the 3DS's past and the Vita's future, and the reason is simple, because in the here and now, the Vita is thoroughly trumped by the 3DS, there's no argument to make. arkephonic

The point of this thread was to show how short sighted it is to declare a forgone conclusion of a system that's only been out for 4 months. To make things even more irrational, you're saying that the upcoming games for a 4 month old system are irrelevant because they'll, "probably suck". It's just childish sounding, TBH. You're the one that turned this into a direct 3DS vs Vita library comparison, when that was never my intent. I never said that the Vita had a better library than the 3DS as of today. It sounds to me like you have a personal beef with the Vita, but I don't have a problem with either. Like I said, I have both a Vita and a 3DS and I enjoy both. I'm fairly certain you only own a 3DS, so it is understandable that you have a noticeable bias against the Vita and most likely want it to fail.

I forgot to add, you say that the 3DS trumps the Vita, but saying that a 15 month old system's library trumps a 4 month old system's library is like common sense. I'd say the Vita's 5 inch OLED touchscreen, 512mb of RAM, quad-core processor and quad-core GPU trump the 3DS, wouldn't you? I know you haven't played a Vita, but man, when you play a 3DS and then a Vita, then back to a 3DS and back to a Vita, it really makes it painfully obvious.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

The point of this thread was to show how short sighted it is to declare a forgone conclusion of a system that's only been out for 4 months. To make things even more irrational, you're saying that the upcoming games for a 4 month old system are irrelevant because they'll, "probably suck". It's just childish sounding, TBH. You're the one that turned this into a direct 3DS vs Vita library comparison, when that was never my intent. I never said that the Vita had a better library than the 3DS as of today. It sounds to me like you have a personal beef with the Vita, but I don't have a problem with either. Like I said, I have both a Vita and a 3DS and I enjoy both. I'm fairly certain you only own a 3DS, so it is understandable that you have a noticeable bias against the Vita and most likely want it to fail.

charizard1605

I forgot to add, you say that the 3DS trumps the Vita, but saying that a 15 month old system's library trumps a 4 month old system's library is like common sense. I'd say the Vita's 5 inch OLED touchscreen, 512mb of RAM, quad-core processor and quad-core GPU trump the 3DS, wouldn't you? I know you haven't played a Vita, but man, when you play a 3DS and then a Vita, then back to a 3DS and back to a Vita, it really makes it painfully obvious.

Well I apologize, I didn't know you had played a Vita. Are you talking about me talking bad about the 3DS hardware? I actually like the 3DS a lot, but I've made it no secret that I don't like the hardware.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

The point of this thread was to show how short sighted it is to declare a forgone conclusion of a system that's only been out for 4 months. To make things even more irrational, you're saying that the upcoming games for a 4 month old system are irrelevant because they'll, "probably suck". It's just childish sounding, TBH. You're the one that turned this into a direct 3DS vs Vita library comparison, when that was never my intent. I never said that the Vita had a better library than the 3DS as of today. It sounds to me like you have a personal beef with the Vita, but I don't have a problem with either. Like I said, I have both a Vita and a 3DS and I enjoy both. I'm fairly certain you only own a 3DS, so it is understandable that you have a noticeable bias against the Vita and most likely want it to fail.

arkephonic

I'm not justifying anything. I have a receipt with the system you know. If I wanted to return it, I have 2 months from now to do so. Guess what? I'm not gonna return it because I like it. I have every system, there's no reason to justify anything. I could buy multiple Vitas if I wanted to, it's not like I'm strapped for cash and had to make sacrifices.