Lets end this Halo 3 graphic debate RIGHT NOW!!! Come in and get SCHOOLED!!!

 PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE PLEEAAASSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE gain some knowledge about online gaming PLEASE. If you think these graphics blow for an online game well you need some real SCHOOLING in this world of online gaming.

You see there is a thing called BANDWITH. Lets say it again BANDWITH!!!. You se the more a developer pumps up the graphics with a lot going on there is a concern and a cause for LAG lets say this againg LAG!!!

Ok at the present time the internet connections can not PERMIT much more in terms of graphics for online becuase the more the graphics are pumped up the more there has to be pushed through the internet PIPELINE.

So what have we learned here. That by all means the Single player portion of Halo 3 is going to look FREAKING SICK!!! And as for the online GREATNESS these graphics look pretty DAM GOOD PERIOD for what can be pushed through the network at the moment. 

(Bubble shield lol)

 

 PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE PLEEAAASSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE gain some knowledge about online gaming PLEASE. If you think these graphics blow for an online game well you need some real SCHOOLING in this world of online gaming.

You see there is a thing called BANDWITH. Lets say it again BANDWITH!!!. You se the more a developer pumps up the graphics with a lot going on there is a concern and a cause for LAG lets say this againg LAG!!!

Ok at the present time the internet connections can not PERMIT much more in terms of graphics for online becuase the more the graphics are pumped up the more there has to be pushed through the internet PIPELINE.

So what have we learned here. That by all means the Single player portion of Halo 3 is going to look FREAKING SICK!!! And as for the online GREATNESS these graphics look pretty DAM GOOD PERIOD for what can be pushed through the network at the moment. 

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3/images.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs&tag=tabs;images

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sloughy07

The graphics look fine. People should shut up bout the graphics because they know that GS will give them a 9 in the review.DA_B0MB

Everyone who thinks the graphics look like Halo 2 should put on bets about leaving SW forever. If the GS review says the graphis look like Halo2 or a mappack for it or very close to Halo2 then Halo 3 supporters leave however if they say it looks good then all those who say it looks like Halo2 and that's that should leave.

Hahaha I'm sure they won't bet that cause we all know it looks way better than Halo 2 already 

Who cares if it is fun?

You all sound like casuals. 

Graphics aren't pushed through the internet. The only way more advanced graphics would affect the bandwidth limitation is if individual pieces of shrapnel caused damage as the location, path, and velocity of each piece of shrapnel would need to be passed through the network. However, I believe most online games still use a blast radius for this sort of thing. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

That being said. I don't really care what the graphics look like, good or bad. 

Graphics aren't pushed through the internet. The only way more advanced graphics would affect the bandwidth limitation is if individual pieces of shrapnel caused damage as the location, path, and velocity of each piece of shrapnel would need to be passed through the network. However, I believe most online games still use a blast radius for this sort of thing. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

 

That being said. I don't really care what the graphics look like, good or bad. 

mattbbpl

Exactly. Graphical assets are all client based, and don't need to be sent through the network to other players. Physics however do, as well as information on what the other players are doing, etc.

Who cares if it is fun?

You all sound like casuals.

karicha9

So, "Casual" is a bad thing...

I think I realised something after playing the beta yesterday. Halo 3's graphics are all right, but the real problem is the artwork. Everything looks a bit cartoony and I think it's the reason why people say it doesn't look too good. Well at least it's MY problem with the graphics.Timesplitter14

You're obviously not a fan of Halo if you complain about that. That's the style and look of the game. It's like with Mario Galaxy. I think it looks great but another person might say it looks too colorful and not be a fan of the series. Well you don't get the series pretty much since you don't already like it so ofcourse you will think the art style sucks. That and because you just wanna bash Halo like you did in your own thread 

TC is this an excuse for Halo 3's Graphics Flopage ?arabi_89

:roll:  *sigh*

Graphics aren't pushed through the internet.

mattbbpl

TC is this an excuse for Halo 3's Graphics Flopage ?arabi_89

Anyone who says the graphics are bad for an online game is cleary not in touch with online gaming reality.

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]I think I realised something after playing the beta yesterday. Halo 3's graphics are all right, but the real problem is the artwork. Everything looks a bit cartoony and I think it's the reason why people say it doesn't look too good. Well at least it's MY problem with the graphics.kcpp2b

You're obviously not a fan of Halo if you complain about that. That's the style and look of the game. It's like with Mario Galaxy. I think it looks great but another person might say it looks too colorful and not be a fan of the series. Well you don't get the series pretty much since you don't already like it so ofcourse you will think the art style sucks. That and because you just wanna bash Halo like you did in your own thread 

lol yeah... go back to Lemmingland.

First, I never bash without reasons and I don't hate any console, so I'm not a fanboy.

Second, you are sooooo close minded. Try to read my last thread carefully. I'm not even bashing Halo

Thrid, errr... so if I'm not a Halo fan I can't... know if I like the artwork? What? What kind of argument is that? I just don't like the artwork and that's all, except if you refuse all other opinions like you did yesterday...

THANK U I IZ LERNED!

Basically, ok. 

[QUOTE="karicha9"]

Who cares if it is fun?

You all sound like casuals.

JLuke360

So, "Casual" is a bad thing...

I think you know my meaning.  If you're going to judge games solely on graphics, how can you possibly really enjoy them for what they are intended, as interactive entertainment?  Most of us here keep up with gaming news, play more games than most, educate ourselves on many technical aspects of gaming.

yet to reduce ones self to view games only in terms of graphics?  It's an insult to what we all stand for. 

I think I realised something after playing the beta yesterday. Halo 3's graphics are all right, but the real problem is the artwork. Everything looks a bit cartoony and I think it's the reason why people say it doesn't look too good. Well at least it's MY problem with the graphics.Timesplitter14

Halo has always had a cartoony look to it. It's the Halo art style, and I'm happy that Bungie stood by it. Look at the color pallet, all you see are bright purples, bright greens, bright oranges. It's Halo. 

[QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]I think I realised something after playing the beta yesterday. Halo 3's graphics are all right, but the real problem is the artwork. Everything looks a bit cartoony and I think it's the reason why people say it doesn't look too good. Well at least it's MY problem with the graphics.Timesplitter14

You're obviously not a fan of Halo if you complain about that. That's the style and look of the game. It's like with Mario Galaxy. I think it looks great but another person might say it looks too colorful and not be a fan of the series. Well you don't get the series pretty much since you don't already like it so ofcourse you will think the art style sucks. That and because you just wanna bash Halo like you did in your own thread

lol yeah... go back to Lemmingland.

First, I never bash without reasons and I don't hate any console, so I'm not a fanboy.

Second, you are sooooo close minded. Try to read my last thread carefully. I'm not even bashing Halo

Thrid, errr... so if I'm not a Halo fan I can't... know if I like the artwork? What? What kind of argument is that? I just don't like the artwork and that's all, except if you refuse all other opinions like you did yesterday...

If you aren't a Halo fan you most likely will hate or dislike the artwork and if you already do then how you can you fairly judge Halo 3?

I don't like FF games and their gameplay at all. So I would never judge a new FF game and it's gameplay cause I will obviously be bias to hating it even before I try a new game. Same way I was with RV6 until I played it and was like wow...now this I can play.

And I'm not a Lemming either although I'm sure you want me to be.

And I find it funny you say you're not bashing it yet you say the number one thing said in these forums to bash Halo 3 that's been said 9230293239283203983098 times. "Halo 3 looks like Halo 2"

Apparently you asked if it was Halo 2 when you first saw it at your friends house. I'm sure you said that be fair and honest and not to bash... sure buddy 

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]I think I realised something after playing the beta yesterday. Halo 3's graphics are all right, but the real problem is the artwork. Everything looks a bit cartoony and I think it's the reason why people say it doesn't look too good. Well at least it's MY problem with the graphics.project343

Halo has always had a cartoony look to it. It's the Halo art style, and I'm happy that Bungie stood by it. Look at the color pallet, all you see are bright purples, bright greens, bright oranges. It's Halo.

Yea but now its in High Def the Orange & Pink Masterchiefs hurt my eyes :cry: 

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]I think I realised something after playing the beta yesterday. Halo 3's graphics are all right, but the real problem is the artwork. Everything looks a bit cartoony and I think it's the reason why people say it doesn't look too good. Well at least it's MY problem with the graphics.kcpp2b

You're obviously not a fan of Halo if you complain about that. That's the style and look of the game. It's like with Mario Galaxy. I think it looks great but another person might say it looks too colorful and not be a fan of the series. Well you don't get the series pretty much since you don't already like it so ofcourse you will think the art style sucks. That and because you just wanna bash Halo like you did in your own thread

lol yeah... go back to Lemmingland.

First, I never bash without reasons and I don't hate any console, so I'm not a fanboy.

Second, you are sooooo close minded. Try to read my last thread carefully. I'm not even bashing Halo

Thrid, errr... so if I'm not a Halo fan I can't... know if I like the artwork? What? What kind of argument is that? I just don't like the artwork and that's all, except if you refuse all other opinions like you did yesterday...

If you aren't a Halo fan you most likely will hate or dislike the artwork and if you already do then how you can you fairly judge Halo 3?

I don't like FF games and their gameplay at all. So I would never judge a new FF game and it's gameplay cause I will obviously be bias to hating it even before I try a new game. Same way I was with RV6 until I played it and was like wow...now this I can play.

And I'm not a Lemming either although I'm sure you want me to be.

And I find it funny you say you're not bashing it yet you say the number one thing said in these forums to bash Halo 3 that's been said 9230293239283203983098 times. "Halo 3 looks like Halo 2"

Apparently you asked if it was Halo 2 when you first saw it at your friends house. I'm sure you said that be fair and honest and not to bash... sure buddy

I would join this conversation with a meaningful post, however, I'm using an on-screen keyboard. 

TC is this an excuse for Halo 3's Graphics Flopage ?arabi_89

I think it is....

[QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]I think I realised something after playing the beta yesterday. Halo 3's graphics are all right, but the real problem is the artwork. Everything looks a bit cartoony and I think it's the reason why people say it doesn't look too good. Well at least it's MY problem with the graphics.Timesplitter14

You're obviously not a fan of Halo if you complain about that. That's the style and look of the game. It's like with Mario Galaxy. I think it looks great but another person might say it looks too colorful and not be a fan of the series. Well you don't get the series pretty much since you don't already like it so ofcourse you will think the art style sucks. That and because you just wanna bash Halo like you did in your own thread

lol yeah... go back to Lemmingland.

First, I never bash without reasons and I don't hate any console, so I'm not a fanboy.

Second, you are sooooo close minded. Try to read my last thread carefully. I'm not even bashing Halo

Thrid, errr... so if I'm not a Halo fan I can't... know if I like the artwork? What? What kind of argument is that? I just don't like the artwork and that's all, except if you refuse all other opinions like you did yesterday...

 

PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE PLEEAAASSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE gain some knowledge about online gaming PLEASE. If you think these graphics blow for an online game well you need some real SCHOOLING in this world of online gaming.

You see there is a thing called BANDWITH. Lets say it again BANDWITH!!!. You se the more a developer pumps up the graphics with a lot going on there is a concern and a cause for LAG lets say this againg LAG!!!

Ok at the present time the internet connections can not PERMIT much more in terms of graphics for online becuase the more the graphics are pumped up the more there has to be pushed through the internet PIPELINE.

So what have we learned here. That by all means the Single player portion of Halo 3 is going to look FREAKING SICK!!! And as for the online GREATNESS these graphics look pretty DAM GOOD PERIOD for what can be pushed through the network at the moment.

 

 

 

 

(Bubble shield lol)

 

 

 Sloughy07

 They have these things called servers, lets say it together now "SERVERS" that blow your post to the weeds where 40 or more players on pc with better graphics happens daily also the ps3's resistance uses "SERVERS" unlike the p2p live. So what have we learned today servers >>>>> p2p and they have nothing to do with graphics unless the gpu is not up to the task then your fps would suffer.

They don't look atrocious, but I expected better, as it stands the worst things are the sound, jaggies, and animation jerking when you are dead, though I expect only the animation problems to be fixed.

And don't try to bull me with "sick graffixxs" because on a HDTV they suck as it stands, GEoW looks better, but I could care less, I prefer RainbowSix to both.

ok well i havent played gears many times and iv only played once online and to me  the game looked exacly like single player graphic wise. maybe a tiny bit worse.....BTBAM127

They are probably the same, as somebody else has already pointed out, the 360 calculates all the graphics alone, the lag only occurs with bad coding and poor connections.

[QUOTE="Sloughy07"]

 

PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE PLEEAAASSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE gain some knowledge about online gaming PLEASE. If you think these graphics blow for an online game well you need some real SCHOOLING in this world of online gaming.

You see there is a thing called BANDWITH. Lets say it again BANDWITH!!!. You se the more a developer pumps up the graphics with a lot going on there is a concern and a cause for LAG lets say this againg LAG!!!

Ok at the present time the internet connections can not PERMIT much more in terms of graphics for online becuase the more the graphics are pumped up the more there has to be pushed through the internet PIPELINE.

So what have we learned here. That by all means the Single player portion of Halo 3 is going to look FREAKING SICK!!! And as for the online GREATNESS these graphics look pretty DAM GOOD PERIOD for what can be pushed through the network at the moment.

 

 

 

 

(Bubble shield lol)

 

 

 BrooklynBomber

 They have these things called servers, lets say it together now "SERVERS" that blow your post to the weeds where 40 or more players on pc with better graphics happens daily also the ps3's resistance uses "SERVERS" unlike the p2p live. So what have we learned today servers >>>>> p2p and they have nothing to do with graphics unless the gpu is not up to the task then your fps would suffer.

The fact that you even mentiond Ressistance voids your opions with me.

Look at the Textures in Ressistance they could have 100 ppl running around with those PS1 grade textures.

Also an online shooter, looks better...

[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="Sloughy07"]

 

PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE PLEEAAASSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE gain some knowledge about online gaming PLEASE. If you think these graphics blow for an online game well you need some real SCHOOLING in this world of online gaming.

You see there is a thing called BANDWITH. Lets say it again BANDWITH!!!. You se the more a developer pumps up the graphics with a lot going on there is a concern and a cause for LAG lets say this againg LAG!!!

Ok at the present time the internet connections can not PERMIT much more in terms of graphics for online becuase the more the graphics are pumped up the more there has to be pushed through the internet PIPELINE.

So what have we learned here. That by all means the Single player portion of Halo 3 is going to look FREAKING SICK!!! And as for the online GREATNESS these graphics look pretty DAM GOOD PERIOD for what can be pushed through the network at the moment.

 

And also if you guys have not heard Halo 3 is going to have 4player online coop. Yes you heard it right 4PLAYER online COOP!!! So yes it will look great why playing that like Gears Of War does.

But once you step up to more players and physics they need to tone things down some becuae they know not everyone will be running real fast cable.

All it takes is some kid running mommy and daddy low grade 768k DSL garbage and BAM game is LAG CITY. So to help with this they tweak things to run as smooth as possible in these bigger games.

 

 

 

(Bubble shield lol)

 

 

 Sloughy07

 They have these things called servers, lets say it together now "SERVERS" that blow your post to the weeds where 40 or more players on pc with better graphics happens daily also the ps3's resistance uses "SERVERS" unlike the p2p live. So what have we learned today servers >>>>> p2p and they have nothing to do with graphics unless the gpu is not up to the task then your fps would suffer.

The fact that you even mentiond Ressistance voids your opions with me.

Look at the Textures in Ressistance they could have 100 ppl running around with those PS1 grade textures.

The fact that you even mentiond Ressistance voids your opions with me.

Look at the Textures in Ressistance they could have 100 ppl running around with those PS1 grade textures.

Sloughy07

That's besides the point. Although Halo 3 really doesn't look as bad as some people are saying it does, your argument is inaccurate, because graphical information is not sent to other players in games.

[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="Sloughy07"]

 

PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE PLEEAAASSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE gain some knowledge about online gaming PLEASE. If you think these graphics blow for an online game well you need some real SCHOOLING in this world of online gaming.

You see there is a thing called BANDWITH. Lets say it again BANDWITH!!!. You se the more a developer pumps up the graphics with a lot going on there is a concern and a cause for LAG lets say this againg LAG!!!

Ok at the present time the internet connections can not PERMIT much more in terms of graphics for online becuase the more the graphics are pumped up the more there has to be pushed through the internet PIPELINE.

So what have we learned here. That by all means the Single player portion of Halo 3 is going to look FREAKING SICK!!! And as for the online GREATNESS these graphics look pretty DAM GOOD PERIOD for what can be pushed through the network at the moment.

 

And also if you guys have not heard Halo 3 is going to have 4player online coop. Yes you heard it right 4PLAYER online COOP!!! So yes it will look great why playing that like Gears Of War does.

But once you step up to more players and physics they need to tone things down some becuae they know not everyone will be running real fast cable.

All it takes is some kid running mommy and daddy low grade 768k DSL garbage and BAM game is LAG CITY. So to help with this they tweak things to run as smooth as possible in these bigger games.

 

 

 

(Bubble shield lol)

 

 

 Sloughy07

 They have these things called servers, lets say it together now "SERVERS" that blow your post to the weeds where 40 or more players on pc with better graphics happens daily also the ps3's resistance uses "SERVERS" unlike the p2p live. So what have we learned today servers >>>>> p2p and they have nothing to do with graphics unless the gpu is not up to the task then your fps would suffer.

The fact that you even mentiond Ressistance voids your opions with me.

Look at the Textures in Ressistance they could have 100 ppl running around with those PS1 grade textures.

And also if you guys have not heard Halo 3 is going to have 4player online coop. Yes you heard it right 4PLAYER online COOP!!! So yes it will look great why playing that like Gears Of War does.

But once you step up to more players and physics they need to tone things down some becuae they know not everyone will be running real fast cable.

All it takes is some kid running mommy and daddy low grade 768k DSL garbage and BAM game is LAG CITY. So to help with this they tweak things to run as smooth as possible in these bigger games.

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]I think I realised something after playing the beta yesterday. Halo 3's graphics are all right, but the real problem is the artwork. Everything looks a bit cartoony and I think it's the reason why people say it doesn't look too good. Well at least it's MY problem with the graphics.kcpp2b

You're obviously not a fan of Halo if you complain about that. That's the style and look of the game. It's like with Mario Galaxy. I think it looks great but another person might say it looks too colorful and not be a fan of the series. Well you don't get the series pretty much since you don't already like it so ofcourse you will think the art style sucks. That and because you just wanna bash Halo like you did in your own thread

lol yeah... go back to Lemmingland.

First, I never bash without reasons and I don't hate any console, so I'm not a fanboy.

Second, you are sooooo close minded. Try to read my last thread carefully. I'm not even bashing Halo

Thrid, errr... so if I'm not a Halo fan I can't... know if I like the artwork? What? What kind of argument is that? I just don't like the artwork and that's all, except if you refuse all other opinions like you did yesterday...

If you aren't a Halo fan you most likely will hate or dislike the artwork and if you already do then how you can you fairly judge Halo 3?

I don't like FF games and their gameplay at all. So I would never judge a new FF game and it's gameplay cause I will obviously be bias to hating it even before I try a new game. Same way I was with RV6 until I played it and was like wow...now this I can play.

And I'm not a Lemming either although I'm sure you want me to be.

And I find it funny you say you're not bashing it yet you say the number one thing said in these forums to bash Halo 3 that's been said 9230293239283203983098 times. "Halo 3 looks like Halo 2"

Apparently you asked if it was Halo 2 when you first saw it at your friends house. I'm sure you said that be fair and honest and not to bash... sure buddy 

I think you're a bit mixed up. If you're a fan of Halo, it means you judged it BEFORE becoming a fan and it also means you like it... so you judge BEFORE, and if you like it you become a fan...

If you don't like FF, then you just don't like it and you say it. If only FF fans would have the right to judge it, that wouldn't make sense because they would all like it. See?

I have my own opinion on Halo 3 beta ind I think it looks way too much like Halo 2 (not graphically) and it also looks too cartoony for my liking. This is my honest opinion and you should just accept it, like I accept yours

 

PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE PLEEAAASSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE gain some knowledge about online gaming PLEASE. If you think these graphics blow for an online game well you need some real SCHOOLING in this world of online gaming.

You see there is a thing called BANDWITH. Lets say it again BANDWITH!!!. You se the more a developer pumps up the graphics with a lot going on there is a concern and a cause for LAG lets say this againg LAG!!!

Ok at the present time the internet connections can not PERMIT much more in terms of graphics for online becuase the more the graphics are pumped up the more there has to be pushed through the internet PIPELINE.

So what have we learned here. That by all means the Single player portion of Halo 3 is going to look FREAKING SICK!!! And as for the online GREATNESS these graphics look pretty DAM GOOD PERIOD for what can be pushed through the network at the moment.

 

 

 

 

(Bubble shield lol)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sloughy07

[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="Sloughy07"]

 

PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE PLEEAAASSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE gain some knowledge about online gaming PLEASE. If you think these graphics blow for an online game well you need some real SCHOOLING in this world of online gaming.

You see there is a thing called BANDWITH. Lets say it again BANDWITH!!!. You se the more a developer pumps up the graphics with a lot going on there is a concern and a cause for LAG lets say this againg LAG!!!

Ok at the present time the internet connections can not PERMIT much more in terms of graphics for online becuase the more the graphics are pumped up the more there has to be pushed through the internet PIPELINE.

So what have we learned here. That by all means the Single player portion of Halo 3 is going to look FREAKING SICK!!! And as for the online GREATNESS these graphics look pretty DAM GOOD PERIOD for what can be pushed through the network at the moment.

 

 

 

 

(Bubble shield lol)

 

 

Sloughy07

They have these things called servers, lets say it together now "SERVERS" that blow your post to the weeds where 40 or more players on pc with better graphics happens daily also the ps3's resistance uses "SERVERS" unlike the p2p live. So what have we learned today servers >>>>> p2p and they have nothing to do with graphics unless the gpu is not up to the task then your fps would suffer.

The fact that you even mentiond Ressistance voids your opions with me.

Look at the Textures in Ressistance they could have 100 ppl running around with those PS1 grade textures. 

The textures have nothing to do with the amount of players online lol the graphics have nothing to do with the network code or your internet provider or the games online network.

[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="Sloughy07"]

 

PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE PLEEAAASSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE gain some knowledge about online gaming PLEASE. If you think these graphics blow for an online game well you need some real SCHOOLING in this world of online gaming.

You see there is a thing called BANDWITH. Lets say it again BANDWITH!!!. You se the more a developer pumps up the graphics with a lot going on there is a concern and a cause for LAG lets say this againg LAG!!!

Ok at the present time the internet connections can not PERMIT much more in terms of graphics for online becuase the more the graphics are pumped up the more there has to be pushed through the internet PIPELINE.

So what have we learned here. That by all means the Single player portion of Halo 3 is going to look FREAKING SICK!!! And as for the online GREATNESS these graphics look pretty DAM GOOD PERIOD for what can be pushed through the network at the moment.

 

 

 

 

(Bubble shield lol)

 

 

 Sloughy07

 They have these things called servers, lets say it together now "SERVERS" that blow your post to the weeds where 40 or more players on pc with better graphics happens daily also the ps3's resistance uses "SERVERS" unlike the p2p live. So what have we learned today servers >>>>> p2p and they have nothing to do with graphics unless the gpu is not up to the task then your fps would suffer.

The fact that you even mentiond Ressistance voids your opions with me.

Look at the Textures in Ressistance they could have 100 ppl running around with those PS1 grade textures.

Seriously, guys, atm halo doesnt look better than resistance, and is filled with jaggies. A long way away from those E3 "realtime" screens from the trailer. And even for single player, the graphical differences will be marginal, as you need more and more power to get at most half better. That means peeps that the nextbox and ps4 will have even less differences than the current gen consoles do to the xbox and ps2. Thats because people can only see details when the look for them, but its not like 2d to 3d is a small detail now is it?

Dude...xbox360 fun boys just want to hide the fact the halo3 graphics will suck

by saying that graphics dont matter  or saying things like in things like in this

forum.....

 

 PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE PLEEAAASSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE gain some knowledge about online gaming PLEASE. If you think these graphics blow for an online game well you need some real SCHOOLING in this world of online gaming.

You see there is a thing called BANDWITH. Lets say it again BANDWITH!!!. You se the more a developer pumps up the graphics with a lot going on there is a concern and a cause for LAG lets say this againg LAG!!!

Ok at the present time the internet connections can not PERMIT much more in terms of graphics for online becuase the more the graphics are pumped up the more there has to be pushed through the internet PIPELINE.

So what have we learned here. That by all means the Single player portion of Halo 3 is going to look FREAKING SICK!!! And as for the online GREATNESS these graphics look pretty DAM GOOD PERIOD for what can be pushed through the network at the moment. 

 

 

 

 

(Bubble shield lol)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sloughy07

Erm, that's wrong.  I can max out my graphics on my PC game and lag because my computer can't manage to process all the info while someone else can.  My bandwidth doesn't do a thing.  All you get through your connection is what the game must show and stuff.  If your settings are low then you still recieve the data for the explosion except you computer shows it nicely if you have high settings or simply if you have low settings.

The only thing being pushes is data.  If graphics were being pushed then everyone would always lag.  The reason in MP games graphics should be set lower is because of Frame Rate and lots of people playing at the same time.  You have to be in sync so the CPU works more and Frame Rate can drop.

well you're right and wrong.

 All graphics are rendered locally.  The internet is used to send coordinates of action.  For example where is Player1 at and where is his bullet going.  It doesn't send the entire character model via the Internet.  This is why many games don't allow over 20 people to play at once.  The fewer the players the more likely lag won't be an issue.

Now as far as having more stuff going on...yes lag is a factor there.  For example, allowing everyone to have huge explosive granades with splash damage.  Halo 3 has that and allows for it but mainly because it has so few people playing at one time.  In many games like Graw they allow you to turn off explosions as this decreases the lag factor.

I don't think anyone's gonna be talking afer they saw the thread with the screenshots. Those look great.

 Halo 3 has some of the best graphics I've seen in gaming since Gears of War.