Lets face it, as of right now all systems are failing us equally...

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#1 Durron88
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I judge systems on there killer apps. Here are a list of the killer apps for each system.

Wii - Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3

360 - Gears of War, Bioshock

PS3 - ???????? (Maybe Warhawk and resistence... maybe....)

So there you have it... every killer app for every current gen system... and you barely need 2 hands to count them on...

Honestly. This entire generation has been a big let down. Hopefully this holiday season rectifys it.

I hope games like Mass Effect and Assassin's Creed ect... are killer Apps... but most likely they will be new HEavnly Swords and Lairs... lots of hype that doesnt deliver.

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#2 tidus222
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not only that but twilight princess was a gamecube port LOL

i pretty much agree with you though

although i did enjoy the darkness alot

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#3 Silvereign
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You've got a point. Nobody is stepping up to the plate NOW. Not sony. Not MS and not Nintendo. Really for the almighty next gen experience Im severly dissappointed in all 3 right now.
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#4 xDonRobx
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I judge systems on there killer apps. Durron88

Well..too bad for you.

My 360 isn't failing me. I'm pretty happy with owning noobs in Madden 08, Blue Dragon and Rainbow Six Vegas.

Then next month, theres Eternal Sonata and Halo 3.

Honestly, you'll like a system more if you didn't put your panties in a bunch over killer apps.

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#5 TargetDog
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Uh no.

The systems aren't failing us equally.

Gamespot is failing them all equally.

As far as I'm concerned MP3 and Bioshock are two of the greatest games I've ever played.

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#6 whoisryanmack
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Amazingly, my 360 will play all the great games that aren't killer apps.
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#7 Uncle_Uzi
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I shouldn't even post in this... this thread is dripping with ingorance...

Killer Apps only come around every few years. BioShock is absolutely freaking off the wall crazy, but it is not something that every 360 owner should buy. Same with TP and MP3. They're phenominal, but are not absolutely necesary to the console''s lifeblood.

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#8 Durron88
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I shouldn't even post in this... this thread is dripping with ingorance...

Killer Apps only come around every few years. BioShock is absolutely freaking off the wall crazy, but it is not something that every 360 owner should buy. Same with TP and MP3. They're phenominal, but are not absolutely necesary to the console''s lifeblood.

Uncle_Uzi

Its not really ignorance...

Wanting killer apps is not a bad thing. Lazy developers are why we get games that COULD have been great, like The Darkness, but instead are just "ok"

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#9 taikthebate
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Every good game is not a killer app
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#10 JPOBS
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well, just because all you see a console's worth as killer aps that doesnt mean everyone does.
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#11 jt8b2z
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I 'm sorry but i simply have too many great games on pc to play. I havent been able to get through half of them :|

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#12 Durron88
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Every good game is not a killer apptaikthebate

Average games dont make a system. They are just there to pass the time until the killer apps come out.

Seriously, if some epic JRPG came out next month, would anyone support Blue Dragon? no.
But because its so rare for the 360 itll sell alright and has zealots protecting it.

Just like Lair and Heavenly Sword on the PS3.

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#13 Verge_6
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Wow, you only play AAA games? Sad.
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[QUOTE="taikthebate"]Every good game is not a killer appDurron88

Average games dont make a system. They are just there to pass the time until the killer apps come out.

Seriously, if some epic JRPG came out next month, would anyone support Blue Dragon? no.
But because its so rare for the 360 itll sell alright and has zealots protecting it.

Just like Lair and Heavenly Sword on the PS3.

If you only play killer apps, and don't play other games, except to kill time, stop gaming.

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#15 leejohnson7
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Its a good point...

Next gen so far has been the same ol' stuff. Better graphics, but thats it. Games like Oblivion do well, but aside from that i dont know any games with outstanding gameplay.

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#16 MrEpyx
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I beg to differ. I own about 20 Xbox 360 games, almost all of which I would buy again in a heartbeat. Wii Sports is still to this day the only Wii game I wiould consider buying, but it already comes with the system (no, Metroid is not worth $50 and neither is Zelda in my opinion.. maybe $30 due to the horrible music & low polygon, low texture, jaggy graphics, and backtracking galore). As for the PS3.. Well nothing out for it has warrented a purchase of the console, especially after the last several megaflops its had.
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#17 tmatte
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[QUOTE="taikthebate"]Every good game is not a killer appDurron88

Average games dont make a system. They are just there to pass the time until the killer apps come out.

Seriously, if some epic JRPG came out next month, would anyone support Blue Dragon? no.
But because its so rare for the 360 itll sell alright and has zealots protecting it.

Just like Lair and Heavenly Sword on the PS3.

Average =/= good.

Oh and we're only 2 years into this gen (one year of Wii/PS3) are you expecting a flood of amazing games to come this early? And did you say ME and AC aren't going to deliver? You're too pessimistic to be a gamer.

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#18 taikthebate
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[QUOTE="Durron88"]

[QUOTE="taikthebate"]Every good game is not a killer apptmatte

Average games dont make a system. They are just there to pass the time until the killer apps come out.

Seriously, if some epic JRPG came out next month, would anyone support Blue Dragon? no.
But because its so rare for the 360 itll sell alright and has zealots protecting it.

Just like Lair and Heavenly Sword on the PS3.

Average =/= good.

Oh and we're only 2 years into this gen (one year of Wii/PS3) are you expecting a flood of amazing games to come this early? And did you say ME and AC aren't going to deliver? You're too pessimistic to be a gamer.

Seriously. Besides a killer app moves alot of systems, or is of an extremely high grade. Just because a game got an 8.5 or alot of people you know bought it, doesn't make it a killer app.

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#19 SmashBrosLegend
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I disagree.

PC, DS, and PSP have awesome libraries and amazing lineups.
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#20 StarSlayer97
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360 has great games coming out TC... so does the wii
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#21 Watch_Me_Xplode
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Umm... not even gonna give them a year? :? Besides, there's plenty of games you didn't mention, like Super Paper Mario, Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Oblivion, Rainbow Six: Vegas, etc.
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#22 Koalakommander
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you make a good point, which is why most people havent entered next-gen yet.
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#23 MrDziekuje
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I'll just go on to enjoying my consoles again then.
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#24 Durron88
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I beg to differ. I own about 20 Xbox 360 games, almost all of which I would buy again in a heartbeat. Wii Sports is still to this day the only Wii game I wiould consider buying, but it already comes with the system (no, Metroid is not worth $50 and neither is Zelda in my opinion.. maybe $30 due to the horrible music & low polygon, low texture, jaggy graphics, and backtracking galore). As for the PS3.. Well nothing out for it has warrented a purchase of the console, especially after the last several megaflops its had.MrEpyx

I must know what 20 360 games you found worth 60 bucks... I must know these 20 games that are worth more then AAA nintendo titles....

Unless you are judging them on graphics... then lol I guess. If graphics do it for you. Im for gameplay.

And why would I spend money on games that offer just "average" enjoyment. I game to play GREAT games... not to be subpar junk just because its there. Thats like buying Vampire Rain because " I had nothing else to play"

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#25 dimebag667
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I totally agree. Right now I would say none of the systems are worth owning, but last gen took a while to get going too, but when they did we got some great games. Its coming............

and if it doesnt, I'm going to become an arsonist!!!

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#26 Durron88
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Umm... not even gonna give them a year? :? Besides, there's plenty of games you didn't mention, like Super Paper Mario, Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Oblivion, Rainbow Six: Vegas, etc.Watch_Me_Xplode
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Ill give you this much... Paper Mario is suppose to be pretty decent for a paper mario game...

But as much as RE3Wii rocks... its much to old to be considered a killer Wii app. It had 2 releases previously, same wiht Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Although both were and still are killer apps in there own right.

Oblivion was a let down from Morrowind to me... so I dont look highly on that.. and Vegas is great online... but a killer app has to be great single player first and foremost... great multiplaye just adds to the package

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Right now, my 360 has been excellent, great games galore.

My PS3 has also been great as a up converting DVD player and HD movie player.

The Wii has been great for party guests, but doesn't get any playtime other than parties, so it is failing, only a little.

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#28 Durron88
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Right now, my 360 has been excellent, great games galore.

My PS3 has also been great as a up converting DVD player and HD movie player.

The Wii has been great for party guests, but doesn't get any playtime other than parties, so it is failing, only a little.

afmsquid

The 360 has 2 killer apps and maybe 2 other must own.

Bioshock, Gears of War, and then Oblivion and Rainbow Six....

What other AMAZING 60$ game does the 360 have? I own one. I own more xbox games then I do 360 games... and I didnt HAVE a Xbox last generation.

Before Bioshock came out.. my biggest enjoyment of my 360 came form Ninja Gaiden Black.

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#29 Tobin09
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You forgot forza
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#30 Tobin09
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You forgot forza
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#31 Tactis
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you do know there are other games besides killer apps right? My 360 has been the best gaming experience i have ever had.
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#32 haziqonfire
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yeah all systems only have 2-3 games that are really worth it at the moment.. meh.
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#33 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="afmsquid"]

Right now, my 360 has been excellent, great games galore.

My PS3 has also been great as a up converting DVD player and HD movie player.

The Wii has been great for party guests, but doesn't get any playtime other than parties, so it is failing, only a little.

Durron88

The 360 has 2 killer apps and maybe 2 other must own.

Bioshock, Gears of War, and then Oblivion and Rainbow Six....

What other AMAZING 60$ game does the 360 have? I own one. I own more xbox games then I do 360 games... and I didnt HAVE a Xbox last generation.

Before Bioshock came out.. my biggest enjoyment of my 360 came form Ninja Gaiden Black.

Tell me, what was your previous account?

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#34 Durron88
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you do know there are other games besides killer apps right? My 360 has been the best gaming experience i have ever had.Tactis

With what games? Seriously, if there are games out there that are worth playing... ill play them. Just today I got DRagon Quest 8 for my ps2 because I stumbled upon all the glowing reviews for it. Had never even heard of it before but after reading all the reviews I was sold.

But seriously. What could you possibly be playing on your 360 that is so great? Im always looking for new games since I beat them so quickly

(I dont do sports racing games, just not my thing)

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#35 JayPee89
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I feel sorry for you. Me and my 360 are living happily ever after, but sometimes I cheat with my PS3. ;)
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#36 i_like_pizza
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I shouldn't even post in this... this thread is dripping with ingorance...

Killer Apps only come around every few years. BioShock is absolutely freaking off the wall crazy, but it is not something that every 360 owner should buy. Same with TP and MP3. They're phenominal, but are not absolutely necesary to the console''s lifeblood.

Uncle_Uzi

Agreed. BioShock is far from a "killer app." It's not going to be a 10-million-seller that overtakes its genre.

The only potential killer apps that I can see on the horizon are SMG, SSB: B, Halo 3, and GTA IV.

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#37 beast667
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well, my 360 failed me. not in software, its got some killer games, but in hardware........:cry: damn you ring of death!!!:cry:
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#38 runemaster545
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So far this gen seems to be lacking some good games so far, I had my hopes high for the Wii (which I own) and besides for being a good party system, the singleplayer stuff really falls short.
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[QUOTE="Tactis"]you do know there are other games besides killer apps right? My 360 has been the best gaming experience i have ever had.Durron88

With what games? Seriously, if there are games out there that are worth playing... ill play them. Just today I got DRagon Quest 8 for my ps2 because I stumbled upon all the glowing reviews for it. Had never even heard of it before but after reading all the reviews I was sold.

But seriously. What could you possibly be playing on your 360 that is so great? Im always looking for new games since I beat them so quickly

(I dont do sports racing games, just not my thing)

Hitman, Dead Rising, Oblivion, Call of Duty 2 & 3, Rainbow 6 Vegas, Lost Planet, DOA 4, The Darkness,and Saint's Row just to name a few. You are missing out on some of the best games if you don't play sports or racing games. Madden 08, NBA2K7, Fight Night, MLB 2K7, The Bigs,NFSMW, PGR 3, Forza 2, and Dirt are some of the highest rated games on the system. It's your loss.
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#40 Serraph105
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not only that but twilight princess was a gamecube port LOL

i pretty much agree with you though

although i did enjoy the darkness alot

tidus222

so was RE$ but i loved it

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#41 Blackbond
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When the three consoles were out last gen by the second Christmas we were already playing....

  • 1. Metal Gear Solid 2
  • 2. Grand Theft Auto III
  • 3. Final Fantasy X
  • 4. Tony Hawk 3
  • 5. Jak and Daxter The Precursor Legacy
  • 6. Tekken Tag Tournament
  • 7. Twisted Metal Black
  • 8. ICO
  • 9. Gran Turismo 3
  • 10. Devil May Cry
  • 11. Onimusha
  • 12. Animal Crossing
  • 13. Super Smash Brothers Melee
  • 14. Star Wars Rouge Squadron
  • 15. Wave Race Blue Storm
  • 16. Pikman
  • 17. Super Monkey Ball
  • 18. Halo CE
  • 19. Project Gotham Racing
  • 20. SSX Tricky

Now here we are going into the third Christmas and yet we still don't have much....

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#42 Timesplitter14
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Yeah it's pretty lame. Even more lame if you have a PC and a GC because Bioshock and Twilight Princess become almost useless. (I don't think GeoW multiplat after all that time is real ownage, though). And seriously Warhawk is AWESOME. It's my favorite Battlefield-like online game.

But even that isn't enough. This gen needs more masterpieces/sure classics. The only one so far is Bioshock, but I think the situation will be alot better in 2008

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[QUOTE="afmsquid"]

Right now, my 360 has been excellent, great games galore.

My PS3 has also been great as a up converting DVD player and HD movie player.

The Wii has been great for party guests, but doesn't get any playtime other than parties, so it is failing, only a little.

Durron88

The 360 has 2 killer apps and maybe 2 other must own.

Bioshock, Gears of War, and then Oblivion and Rainbow Six....

What other AMAZING 60$ game does the 360 have? I own one. I own more xbox games then I do 360 games... and I didnt HAVE a Xbox last generation.

Before Bioshock came out.. my biggest enjoyment of my 360 came form Ninja Gaiden Black.

GRAW, GRAW 2, Command and Conquer 3, Dead Rising, Forza 2, The Darkness, Project Slypheed, COD 2, Viva Pinata, Fight Night Round 3, Battlestations Midway, Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth, Call of Juarez. Already had the multiplats before they came out on my PS3. These games, IMO were definitely worth my $60 each, although I paid probably $30-$40 for most of my library. So, no the 360 had definitely NOT failed me. My PS3 for games only has Motorstorm and Ninja Gaiden Sigma, I rented Resistance and thought that it sucked. Sorry, but my opinions count more to me than yours ever will.

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#44 Timesplitter14
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[QUOTE="Uncle_Uzi"]

I shouldn't even post in this... this thread is dripping with ingorance...

Killer Apps only come around every few years. BioShock is absolutely freaking off the wall crazy, but it is not something that every 360 owner should buy. Same with TP and MP3. They're phenominal, but are not absolutely necesary to the console''s lifeblood.

i_like_pizza

Agreed. BioShock is far from a "killer app." It's not going to be a 10-million-seller that overtakes its genre.

The only potential killer apps that I can see on the horizon are SMG, SSB: B, Halo 3, and GTA IV.

Well most of the time,big sellers are casual games like Halo, NFLor Burnout. A game doesn't need to sell well to be a masterpiece

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#45 shadowfox55
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When I find out you were the same level as me I was excited, and you posted a thread saying the Wii controls is gimmicky which I agree and I hope for you to read my blog about the Wii you'll enjoy it. But for this thread Iagreetoacertaindegree. It is peoples choiceto buy the systems they have and they bought it just to play games for that certain system. But I'll stick with having a PS2 they still have great games for it and games coming out for it. As for next system I'll wait and see what games are made.

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#46 Durron88
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[QUOTE="Durron88"]

[QUOTE="Tactis"]you do know there are other games besides killer apps right? My 360 has been the best gaming experience i have ever had.JayPee89

With what games? Seriously, if there are games out there that are worth playing... ill play them. Just today I got DRagon Quest 8 for my ps2 because I stumbled upon all the glowing reviews for it. Had never even heard of it before but after reading all the reviews I was sold.

But seriously. What could you possibly be playing on your 360 that is so great? Im always looking for new games since I beat them so quickly

(I dont do sports racing games, just not my thing)

Hitman, Dead Rising, Oblivion, Call of Duty 2 & 3, Rainbow 6 Vegas, Lost Planet, DOA 4, The Darkness,and Saint's Row just to name a few. You are missing out on some of the best games if you don't play sports or racing games. Madden 08, NBA2K7, Fight Night, MLB 2K7, The Bigs,NFSMW, PGR 3, Forza 2, and Dirt are some of the highest rated games on the system. It's your loss.

Hitman lacks depth and polish.

Dead Risings text is unreadable for somone without an SDTV and its pretty short, though I will give it props for being sorta unique is not a bit repetative.

Call of Duty games havnt been killer since Call of Duty 1, now they are all rehashs.

Lost Planet was not even average... it was just plain bad

DOA 4 is a fighter... and a good one... but its just DOA3 with better graphics

The Darkness could have been great.. but it lacked the polish of a game with a bigger budget.

Saints Row is rehashed GTA with better graphics

Then you list like 5 sports games... sports games are never killer apps. They all do the same thing. They are all the same game. The difference between Baseball on the NES and MLB 2210 will still just be graphics and data on teams and rosters. The gameplay has been the same for years, it just looks better because of new technology.

As for racing... Racing can be amazing... im just not into it.

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#47 Durron88
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[QUOTE="Durron88"][QUOTE="afmsquid"]

Right now, my 360 has been excellent, great games galore.

My PS3 has also been great as a up converting DVD player and HD movie player.

The Wii has been great for party guests, but doesn't get any playtime other than parties, so it is failing, only a little.

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The 360 has 2 killer apps and maybe 2 other must own.

Bioshock, Gears of War, and then Oblivion and Rainbow Six....

What other AMAZING 60$ game does the 360 have? I own one. I own more xbox games then I do 360 games... and I didnt HAVE a Xbox last generation.

Before Bioshock came out.. my biggest enjoyment of my 360 came form Ninja Gaiden Black.

GRAW, GRAW 2, Command and Conquer 3, Dead Rising, Forza 2, The Darkness, Project Slypheed, COD 2, Viva Pinata, Fight Night Round 3, Battlestations Midway, Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth, Call of Juarez. Already had the multiplats before they came out on my PS3. These games, IMO were definitely worth my $60 each, although I paid probably $30-$40 for most of my library. So, no the 360 had definitely NOT failed me. My PS3 for games only has Motorstorm and Ninja Gaiden Sigma, I rented Resistance and thought that it sucked. Sorry, but my opinions count more to me than yours ever will.

GRAW/GRAW2 are basically the same game... and huge disapointments

Command and Conquer 3 is a PC game.. RTS on Console is a joke

Project Slypheed?? ARe you high? Seriously? Are you high?

Battlestations Midway... Are you still high?!

Lord of the Rings: Battle for middle earth... Your still high arnt you? Another RTS on a console?!?

Call of Juarez?.... Why do you keep listing these horrible releases for? You BOUGHT these?!!?!?!?!?

Seriously... dude... your parents buy your games right? Thats why you can stomach spending other peoples money on crud like you are listing?!?!

RTSs and bargain bin throw aways?!?!?!

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I dont agree. I have a X360 and i'm busy playing the following games:

Gears, GRAW2, Forza2, Dirt, BioShock, Madden (now and then), R6, Arcade games (mainly Bomberman, Paperboy, Lumis Live). Not to mention the tons of demos.

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#49 Verge_6
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So, whenever someone lists games, you just *****about them being trash? Okay, thread-lock please. Just a bunch of trolling.
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So, whenever someone lists games, you just *****about them being trash? Okay, thread-lock please. Just a bunch of trolling.Verge_6

I only speak the truth. None of the games they listed, save the ones I have already said... are anything but averagfe