Let's petition AGAINST KotOR3!

Before you KotOR fans slice me to pieces with their lightbulb lightsabres, let me ask: Why do you want KotOR 3? Why not a NEW IP, with an ORIGINAL world from BioWare?

Personally, I want BioWare to stretch their imaginations, not restrict it to a single set universe.

that game would pwn

but not in a MMORPG form :evil:

Have you ever heard of Mass Effect? :|Vyse_The_Daring

The Star Trek wannabe? Yeah. Don't get me wrong, it's #1 on my list, but I'd rather have BioWare REALLY try to stretch their imagination.

Before you KotOR fans slice me to pieces with their lightbulb lightsabres, let me ask: Why do you want KotOR 3? Why not a NEW IP, with an ORIGINAL world from BioWare?

Personally, I want BioWare to stretch their imaginations, not restrict it to a single set universe.

mjarantilla

No give me KOTOR any day, why do you need a new universe, the star wars one ismassive.Just make a new story and your done.. Hell then don't even need a new engine I still love the old one..

It's like saying "Let's not finish the Star Wars trilogy", "Let's not finish the Lord of the Rings trilogy", we need it cause it's the ending of a series, and it'll give people closure.Legendaryscmt

The desire to "finish" the Star Wars saga led to the Prequels, and the desire to "finish" Lord of the Rings led to an crappy unpublished sequel set a hundred years after RotK (no, seriously, Tolkien wrote a sequel).

Anyway, I haven't played KotOR 2, but KotOR 1 needed no "finishing" at all.

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]Have you ever heard of Mass Effect? :|mjarantilla

The Star Trek wannabe? Yeah. Don't get me wrong, it's #1 on my list, but I'd rather have BioWare REALLY try to stretch their imagination.

So u want a new IP, but it cant be one that some have quoted as having the best storyline in a game?

[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]It's like saying "Let's not finish the Star Wars trilogy", "Let's not finish the Lord of the Rings trilogy", we need it cause it's the ending of a series, and it'll give people closure.mjarantilla

The desire to "finish" the Star Wars saga led to the Prequels, and the desire to "finish" Lord of the Rings led to an crappy unpublished sequel set a hundred years after RotK (no, seriously, Tolkien wrote a sequel).

Anyway, I haven't played KotOR 2, but KotOR 1 needed no "finishing" at all.

That explains it. Anyway, long story short, KotOR 2 was a rushed game with an unfinished story and ending, and we want KotOR 3 so that the series gets a proper ending.

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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]It's like saying "Let's not finish the Star Wars trilogy", "Let's not finish the Lord of the Rings trilogy", we need it cause it's the ending of a series, and it'll give people closure.MetroidPrimePwn

The desire to "finish" the Star Wars saga led to the Prequels, and the desire to "finish" Lord of the Rings led to an crappy unpublished sequel set a hundred years after RotK (no, seriously, Tolkien wrote a sequel).

Anyway, I haven't played KotOR 2, but KotOR 1 needed no "finishing" at all.

That explains it. Anyway, long story short, KotOR 2 was a rushed game with an unfinished story and ending, and we want KotOR 3 so that the series gets a proper ending.

We ARE getting an original IP from Bioware. Mass Effect. There's no reasopn we can't get a great sequel and a new title from this awesome developer. Not in the same time frame of course, but in alternating cycles.

Besides that, we would only be talking about a 3rd iteration of a franchise. That's far from a series being done to death. Dynasty Warriors, Madden NFL, Tony Hawk anybody?

Plus it stands apart from most RPGs. Not just archetypal wizards and warriors, but getting to be a part of a world cherished by millions for 30 years, being one of the most revered order of knights, the Jedi. Well that is special :) :)

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]Have you ever heard of Mass Effect? :|mjarantilla

The Star Trek wannabe? Yeah. Don't get me wrong, it's #1 on my list, but I'd rather have BioWare REALLY try to stretch their imagination.

jade empire :|.

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[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]Have you ever heard of Mass Effect? :|istreakforfood

The Star Trek wannabe? Yeah. Don't get me wrong, it's #1 on my list, but I'd rather have BioWare REALLY try to stretch their imagination.

jade empire :|.

:| Does BioWare even have plans to do KotOR 3?thirstychainsaw

LucasArts does. But with Bioware having their hands full, it seems more likely Obsidian might make this. Which makes me realize a mistake I made in my previous post, assuming it would be Bioware to make KOTOR3.

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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]It's like saying "Let's not finish the Star Wars trilogy", "Let's not finish the Lord of the Rings trilogy", we need it cause it's the ending of a series, and it'll give people closure.MetroidPrimePwn

The desire to "finish" the Star Wars saga led to the Prequels, and the desire to "finish" Lord of the Rings led to an crappy unpublished sequel set a hundred years after RotK (no, seriously, Tolkien wrote a sequel).

Anyway, I haven't played KotOR 2, but KotOR 1 needed no "finishing" at all.

That explains it. Anyway, long story short, KotOR 2 was a rushed game with an unfinished story and ending, and we want KotOR 3 so that the series gets a proper ending.

obsidian worked on kotor 2.

[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]It's like saying "Let's not finish the Star Wars trilogy", "Let's not finish the Lord of the Rings trilogy", we need it cause it's the ending of a series, and it'll give people closure.Sir-Marwin105

The desire to "finish" the Star Wars saga led to the Prequels, and the desire to "finish" Lord of the Rings led to an crappy unpublished sequel set a hundred years after RotK (no, seriously, Tolkien wrote a sequel).

Anyway, I haven't played KotOR 2, but KotOR 1 needed no "finishing" at all.

That explains it. Anyway, long story short, KotOR 2 was a rushed game with an unfinished story and ending, and we want KotOR 3 so that the series gets a proper ending.

Yeah, there were several aspects of KotOR 2 that were better than the first one (the way your actions had much more of an effect on your party members, for example), despite the game being rushed, if Obsidian had more time to develop these attributes and maybe blend them into the story to create a less linear story, KotOR 3 would have the potentialto be one of the best WRPGs ever made.

Now Mass Effect is a Star Trek wannabe...

Living and learning !

:lol:

PS: Non-Star Wars fans don't get it, though. Because they don't know anything about the universe. The "Sith era" kicks ass !

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]Have you ever heard of Mass Effect? :|ApocalypseXIVV

The Star Trek wannabe? Yeah. Don't get me wrong, it's #1 on my list, but I'd rather have BioWare REALLY try to stretch their imagination.

So u want a new IP, but it cant be one that some have quoted as having the best storyline in a game?

No, I want ANOTHER new IP in addition to Mass Effect!

[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]It's like saying "Let's not finish the Star Wars trilogy", "Let's not finish the Lord of the Rings trilogy", we need it cause it's the ending of a series, and it'll give people closure.Sir-Marwin105

The desire to "finish" the Star Wars saga led to the Prequels, and the desire to "finish" Lord of the Rings led to an crappy unpublished sequel set a hundred years after RotK (no, seriously, Tolkien wrote a sequel).

Anyway, I haven't played KotOR 2, but KotOR 1 needed no "finishing" at all.

That explains it. Anyway, long story short, KotOR 2 was a rushed game with an unfinished story and ending, and we want KotOR 3 so that the series gets a proper ending.

dang it you keep beating me to it.

Now Mass Effect is a Star Trek wannabe...

Living and learning !

:lol:

PS: Non-Star Wars fans don't get it, though. Because they don't know anything about the universe. The "Sith era" kicks ass !

Forza_2

As a matter of fact, I do know about the Sith era, to the point where certain parts of KotOR 1, like the tombs of the Sith on Korriban, felt like I was just re-reading what I'd read before.

felt like I was just re-reading what I'd read before.mjarantilla

Anyway, Sith era is just awesome. BioWare did an amazing job on capturing it.

Now Mass Effect is a Star Trek wannabe...

Living and learning !

:lol:

PS: Non-Star Wars fans don't get it, though. Because they don't know anything about the universe. The "Sith era" kicks ass !

Forza_2

I don't know too much about the SW universe, but I loved the game. That era is easily as cool as that of the movies.

[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]It's like saying "Let's not finish the Star Wars trilogy", "Let's not finish the Lord of the Rings trilogy", we need it cause it's the ending of a series, and it'll give people closure.Sir-Marwin105

The desire to "finish" the Star Wars saga led to the Prequels, and the desire to "finish" Lord of the Rings led to an crappy unpublished sequel set a hundred years after RotK (no, seriously, Tolkien wrote a sequel).

Anyway, I haven't played KotOR 2, but KotOR 1 needed no "finishing" at all.

That explains it. Anyway, long story short, KotOR 2 was a rushed game with an unfinished story and ending, and we want KotOR 3 so that the series gets a proper ending.

I don't know too much about the SW universe, but I loved the game. That era is easily as cool as that of the movies. Vyse_The_Daring

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[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]Have you ever heard of Mass Effect? :|mjarantilla

The Star Trek wannabe? Yeah. Don't get me wrong, it's #1 on my list, but I'd rather have BioWare REALLY try to stretch their imagination.

So u want a new IP, but it cant be one that some have quoted as having the best storyline in a game?

No, I want ANOTHER new IP in addition to Mass Effect!

Dragon Age. Research it.

I never played the second Knights, but I would like to play the third if it's not an MMO, a la Star Wars Galaxies. I don't like MMOs. I don't enjoy paying $50 or $60 for my game and then having to pay to play it. I'd like to buy my game and play it for free. Why? Because it makes sense. As a consumer, it doesn't seem smart. As a gamer, perhaps, but as a consumer, I want to play my games for free.

In any case, the first Knights was an excellent game. As soon as I can get my hands on a copy for Xbox, I'll be playing it through again. I'd like to play the second too, but opinions seem mostly negative about it, so I'm not totally sure if I want to play it.

As for Knights 3 being an MMO, my question is why. What purpose would that serve? How would that better the series or give it relevant substance? Sounds to me like a desperate attempt to take a great series and f*** it up. (Excuse my language.)

I never played the second Knights, but I would like to play the third if it's not an MMO, a la Star Wars Galaxies. I don't like MMOs. I don't enjoy paying $50 or $60 for my game and then having to pay to play it. I'd like to buy my game and play it for free. Why? Because it makes sense. As a consumer, it doesn't seem smart. As a gamer, perhaps, but as a consumer, I want to play my games for free.

In any case, the first Knights was an excellent game. As soon as I can get my hands on a copy for Xbox, I'll be playing it through again. I'd like to play the second too, but opinions seem mostly negative about it, so I'm not totally sure if I want to play it.

As for Knights 3 being an MMO, my question is why. What purpose would that serve? How would that better the series or give it relevant substance? Sounds to me like a desperate attempt to take a great series and f*** it up. (Excuse my language.)

jalexbrown

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]Have you ever heard of Mass Effect? :|mjarantilla

The Star Trek wannabe? Yeah. Don't get me wrong, it's #1 on my list, but I'd rather have BioWare REALLY try to stretch their imagination.

I'd like to know how Mass Effect is about the conflict between two different religious forces representing two different ideologies?

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[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]Have you ever heard of Mass Effect? :|The_Ish

The Star Trek wannabe? Yeah. Don't get me wrong, it's #1 on my list, but I'd rather have BioWare REALLY try to stretch their imagination.

I'd like to know how Mass Effect is about the conflict between two different religious forces representing two different ideologies?

I said Star Trek, not Star Wars....

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ApocalypseXIVV"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]Have you ever heard of Mass Effect? :|DHReese

The Star Trek wannabe? Yeah. Don't get me wrong, it's #1 on my list, but I'd rather have BioWare REALLY try to stretch their imagination.

So u want a new IP, but it cant be one that some have quoted as having the best storyline in a game?

No, I want ANOTHER new IP in addition to Mass Effect!

Dragon Age. Research it.

PC-only. I already know about it.

PC-only. I already know about it.

mjarantilla

Why does that matter? You're a hermit too, or thats what your sig says.

Isn't mass effect KOTOR 3 in spirit?GIJesse77

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PC-only. I already know about it.

thirstychainsaw

Why does that matter? You're a hermit too, or thats what your sig says.

It's not so much availability that bothers me, it's the fact that BioWare is (or will be) using resources on KotOR3 that they instead could use for a new IP.

This generation is getting too sequel-happy. The more new IPs from top-notch devs that we get, the better, because other companies will be putting out more and more sequels and spin-offs.

Isn't mass effect KOTOR 3 in spirit?GIJesse77

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

PC-only. I already know about it.

thirstychainsaw

Why does that matter? You're a hermit too, or thats what your sig says.

^Dragon Age is the new IP we will be looking for (and ME 2&3), even if you do already know about it.

Kotor 3 is looking like its gonna be a MMORPG anyway. And not matter how much I love KOTOR and Bioware, I wont be buying it. So I agree with you in that regard, it would be a waste of quaitly development time if it becomes an MMORPG.

[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

PC-only. I already know about it.

DHReese

Why does that matter? You're a hermit too, or thats what your sig says.

^

As I said:

It's not so much availability that bothers me, it's the fact that BioWare is (or will be) using resources on KotOR3 that they instead could use for a new IP.

This generation is getting too sequel-happy. The more new IPs from top-notch devs that we get, the better, because other companies will be putting out more and more sequels and spin-offs.

It's not so much availability that bothers me, it's the fact that BioWare is (or will be) using resources on KotOR3 that they instead could use for a new IP.

This generation is getting too sequel-happy. The more new IPs from top-notch devs that we get, the better, because other companies will be putting out more and more sequels and spin-offs.

mjarantilla

And sequel doesn't necessarily equal rehash of previous installments...

[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

PC-only. I already know about it.

mjarantilla

Why does that matter? You're a hermit too, or thats what your sig says.

It's not so much availability that bothers me, it's the fact that BioWare is (or will be) using resources on KotOR3 that they instead could use for a new IP.

This generation is getting too sequel-happy. The more new IPs from top-notch devs that we get, the better, because other companies will be putting out more and more sequels and spin-offs.

Where does it say that BioWare is even doing KotOR 3?

[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

PC-only. I already know about it.

mjarantilla

Why does that matter? You're a hermit too, or thats what your sig says.

It's not so much availability that bothers me, it's the fact that BioWare is (or will be) using resources on KotOR3 that they instead could use for a new IP.

This generation is getting too sequel-happy. The more new IPs from top-notch devs that we get, the better, because other companies will be putting out more and more sequels and spin-offs.

link to bioware making kotor 3? because this is the first i've heard of it.dooly420

Where does it say that BioWare is even doing KotOR 3? thirstychainsaw

What ? Lucas Arts didn't mention anything about BioWare.

And sequels doesn't necessarily equal rehash of previous installments...Forza_2

That's why I said "BioWare is (or will be) using resources on KotOR3." I'm saying that instead of starting KotOR 3 at all, they should make a new IP.

That's why I said "BioWare is (or will be) using resources on KotOR3." I'm saying that instead of starting KotOR 3 at all, they should make a new IP.

mjarantilla