Let's see a console do these graphics! (Near photo realistic on PC)

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#1 NerdMan
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From the new Nvidia tech demo, http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_humanhead_home.html.

The PC will always be on the cutting edge for graphics.

 

 

 

 

 

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#2 Overthrow
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And of course, the eyes are closed, because it is completely impossible to set realistic eyes in motion. The technology just doesn't exist to capture all the nuances in a human eye.
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#3 Meu2k7
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They will do it next gen.
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#4 XaosII
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Thats nice, but not very representative of graphics for any platform. Heres a picture of an nVidia tech demo:

Except this was the tech demo for the GeForce 3....released sometime in 2001. We've just started to get this kind of detail in games 6 years later. By the time we'll see those graphics in the first post no one will have rememberd that tech demo since it'll be years, and years away.

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They will do it next gen.Meu2k7

Exactly, how many years behind? 

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So theyre able to model a realistic human face... and ONLY a realistic human face.... without eyes...

 

Awesome, lets see that put to use in a gameone day then I'll care. Im guessing 2020. 

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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]They will do it next gen.NerdMan

Exactly, how many years behind? 

I'm not sure why this is new news or ownage of any type. Clearly personal computers will have the edge on consoles. I question why people make these threads. People play consoles for all sorts of reasons. Besides, I can't say I am too excited about a tech demo.

Do you want to play a tech demo?

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#8 NerdMan
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[QUOTE="NerdMan"]

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]They will do it next gen.musicalmac

Exactly, how many years behind?

I'm not sure why this is new news or ownage of any type. Clearly personal computers will have the edge on consoles. I question why people make these threads. People play consoles for all sorts of reasons. Besides, I can't say I am too excited about a tech demo.

Do you want to play a tech demo?

Yeah, I guess innovation and the availability of cutting edge technology is boring.  They should just stop trying all together and stick with what they have.  No sense giving developers new and better tools for games...

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Yeah, I guess innovation and the availability of cutting edge technology is boring.  They should just stop trying all together and stick with what they have.  No sense giving developers new and better tools for games...

NerdMan

 

You've got me scratching my head. I don't know how your post has anything to do with mine. Of course they should continue to innovate and create more lifelike graphics. But why you choose to state the obvious (when it's so obviously stated repeatedly anyways) is a mystery to me.

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#10 FearlessSpirit
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="NerdMan"]

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]They will do it next gen.NerdMan

Exactly, how many years behind?

I'm not sure why this is new news or ownage of any type. Clearly personal computers will have the edge on consoles. I question why people make these threads. People play consoles for all sorts of reasons. Besides, I can't say I am too excited about a tech demo.

Do you want to play a tech demo?

Yeah, I guess innovation and the availability of cutting edge technology is boring. They should just stop trying all together and stick with what they have. No sense giving developers new and better tools for games...

Uh, that's not what he said. Xbox 360 and PS3 had tech demo's that were amazing and no game has achieved any of those tech demo results yet. I seriously doubt you will find a game that looks like that in the next year or 4 on PC. And by that time the new consoles start arriving anyway.

And all he's saying that it's not totally about graphics. X360 and PS3 have great graphics for this time. Most people buy it for the games though, that are not available on PC. 

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#11 freeload
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Those images are actually a little bit creepy.

Uncanny Valley anyone...

 

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So theyre able to model a realistic human face... and ONLY a realistic human face.... without eyes...

 

Awesome, lets see that put to use in a gameone day then I'll care. Im guessing 2020.

hazuki87
exactly. I bet they wouldn't be able to reproduce that same face 10x over again
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#13 FearlessSpirit
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Tech demo's are never achieved until a generation later anyway. Nothing to be excited about.
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:shock:
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#15 MegaPigeon
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As incredible as this looks, and as happy an 8800 owner I am, this is just a tech demo. Games will certainly look this good in the near future.
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#16 haris12121212
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Bold... yeah the realistic Hair is the most difficult part of a human to make.
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#17 xyoojguy
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Look like they use all of that graphic power to render only the head.. Yet it don't have enough power to render a full body..
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#18 UKNintendoFreak
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Am I the only one who thinks photorealistic graphics are a terrible idea?
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#19 MadExponent
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And of course, the eyes are closed, because it is completely impossible to set realistic eyes in motion. The technology just doesn't exist to capture all the nuances in a human eye.Overthrow

While not in motion in this particular instance. It is absolutely possible now to get extremely realistic eyes...

http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=4006&page=1

 

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#20 Deihmos
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People really need to stop comparing a console to a PC. It makes no sense at all because not everyone has the same PC to produce the same graphics and no one can upgrade a console. Comparing the two is just plain STUPID.
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#21 Blommen
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yea yeah let me see them doin' 20 of those at the same time in gameplay and then we'll talk...
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From the new Nvidia tech demo, http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_humanhead_home.html.

The PC will always be on the cutting edge for graphics.

 

 NerdMan

How about we see the PC do that in an actual game and still look as good.  Just because it can do a tech demo of a head doesnt mean you will be seeing that quality in graphics on your PC games for years to come.  (and no dont say Crysis, they have good looking faces but not that good.)

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[QUOTE="NerdMan"]

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]They will do it next gen.musicalmac

Exactly, how many years behind?

I'm not sure why this is new news or ownage of any type. Clearly personal computers will have the edge on consoles. I question why people make these threads. People play consoles for all sorts of reasons. Besides, I can't say I am too excited about a tech demo.

Do you want to play a tech demo?

Yeah I don't get these threads. PC's have been killing consoles in graphics for like...since the dinosaurs lol

Is this supposed to be a shock or some kind of big deal? Sometimes I feel people keep bringing this up as to bash consoles because they are pissed for how good they sell and how good their sales are cause people say PC is dying or whatever which I doubt will ever happen really but to combat people who say it is they say....PC kills console graphics.

Well we all know this...only fanboys think Console graphics match or surpass PC graphics.

I don't play for graphics though so all this is pointless. It's nice but I dont buy games for that. 

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#24 Nightflash28
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Do people still remember E3 '05 when Sony first showed the PS3?

They did that real-time demo with a model of Alfred Molina. That looked pretty photo-realistic and keep in mind that it's 2 years old by now.  

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#25 justforlotr2004
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I wonder whats going to happen once we actually reach that level of graphics.  I mean right now Gears looks pretty good and is grusome/extremly violent but it still feels like a video game, once we reach that level its going to feel weird shooting a guy that looks that real in the head. 
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#26 snyper1982
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Am I the only one who thinks photorealistic graphics are a terrible idea?UKNintendoFreak

 

Yes. 

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Is this supposed to be a shock or some kind of big deal? Sometimes I feel people keep bringing this up as to bash consoles because they are pissed for how good they sell and how good their sales are cause people say PC is dying or whatever which I doubt will ever happen really but to combat people who say it is they say....PC kills console graphics.kcpp2b

Kinda how Xbox gamers tout XBL for its downloads, features, and achievements, but they are only talking about it because they feel they have to justify the money that they spend on it yearly despite other systems providing equivalent if not superior service for free, but they have to pretend like its good?

See, i can make baseless claims to. How about lemmings talk about XBL because its a genuinely good service and PC gamers talk about the graphics because they have genuinely good graphics. Stop kiddin yourself if you think everything tlaked about has some kind of underhanded motive to anything someone praises. 

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#28 dubvisions
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You're totally right.  Consoles aren;t made to render cool looking jpegs.
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#29 c02z
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Tech demo's are never achieved until a generation later anyway. Nothing to be excited about.FearlessSpirit
that demo can be run  in real time on a  pc with high end computer. pc alway a new step in technology comparing to console. thats what TC are tryin to said.
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PC has good tech demos, like Crysis, still has not one worthy game
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PC has good tech demos, like Crysis, still has not one worthy gamegreg_splicer

 

how many AAA's does your 360 have so far this year....Oh wait....

 

and how exacly is Crysis a tech demo....? 

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PC has good tech demos, like Crysis, still has not one worthy gamegreg_splicer

Are you calling Crysis a tech demo? Hmm... This game has more to it than any other FPS prior to it. Explain to me how it is only a tech demo. Just cause it has pretty graphics doesn't mean it is a tech demo. A tech demo is just that...not a game. For instance a tech demo of Crysis would be that helicopter map that they always show off. That is not the game and not even in the game AFAIK. Instead of bashing PC games and going on and on about how PC games are "only" about the graphics people should actually play them.

 

Edit: Besides...aren't you one of the worst graphics whores on this forum?  You wouldn't be bashing Crysis if you had a PC that could run the game maxed out like some of us do. 

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So how much did that pc cost again?

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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]They will do it next gen.NerdMan

Exactly, how many years behind? 

Don't try to change the subject.  You pretty much said a console couldn't do those kinds of graphics period.

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What game is that? Can I see a video of it?  Thought so, thread failed.

 

  Crysis is the monster of visuals, thats all that needed to be said, no need to throw a floating head pic of something that isn't even a game.

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[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]PC has good tech demos, like Crysis, still has not one worthy gameMadExponent

Are you calling Crysis a tech demo? Hmm... This game has more to it than any other FPS prior to it. Explain to me how it is only a tech demo. Just cause it has pretty graphics doesn't mean it is a tech demo. A tech demo is just that...not a game. For instance a tech demo of Crysis would be that helicopter map that they always show off. That is not the game and not even in the game AFAIK. Instead of bashing PC games and going on and on about how PC games are "only" about the graphics people should actually play them.

Edit: Besides...aren't you one of the worst graphics whores on this forum?  You wouldn't be bashing Crysis if you had a PC that could run the game maxed out like some of us do. 

If i had that pc, probably would enjoy my tech demo indeed, but get a new pc for a tech demo is not my style, maybe when the first RPG with Crysis graphics arrives (read: 2010) i would get such a pc, would be DX12 at that time though

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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]PC has good tech demos, like Crysis, still has not one worthy gamegreg_splicer

Are you calling Crysis a tech demo? Hmm... This game has more to it than any other FPS prior to it. Explain to me how it is only a tech demo. Just cause it has pretty graphics doesn't mean it is a tech demo. A tech demo is just that...not a game. For instance a tech demo of Crysis would be that helicopter map that they always show off. That is not the game and not even in the game AFAIK. Instead of bashing PC games and going on and on about how PC games are "only" about the graphics people should actually play them.

Edit: Besides...aren't you one of the worst graphics whores on this forum? You wouldn't be bashing Crysis if you had a PC that could run the game maxed out like some of us do.

If i had that pc, probably would enjoy my tech demo indeed, but get a new pc for a tech demo is not my style, maybe when the first RPG with Crysis graphics arrives (read: 2010) i would get such a pc, would be DX12 at that time though

 

I would call Halo 3 a tech demo, but its graphics are obviously too crap to even begin to qualify.