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This does't matter about money. Sony, microsoft, ea, ubisoft, and activision all have enough money to buy out 51 % of take 2 stocks allowing them to what you would call 'own' the company.
I can't believe that not one fanboy knows basic economics. I feel like not one of them has even graduated high school.
Sony doesn't stand a chance in NA any way.
And I agree with the thread. If MS wants T2, they will get T2.
MS can outbid other companied, tell me, you hold stocks for take 2, sony offers IDK $100 a share, and MS offers $500 a share.. which would you choose?This does't matter about money. Sony, microsoft, ea, ubisoft, and activision all have enough money to buy out 51 % of take 2 stocks allowing them to what you would call 'own' the company.
I can't believe that not one fanboy knows basic economics. I feel like not one of them has even graduated high school.
nextgengaming18
[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"]MS can outbid other companied, tell me, you hold stocks for take 2, sony offers IDK $100 a share, and MS offers $500 a share.. which would you choose? There is no bidding for buying companies. Easy as that. Companies have a set value worth. If a company is failing there set value worth is lower. In order to control a company you need 51 % of the total stocks. When you buy up 51 % of the stocks. The stocks rise enormously making stock holders immediatly wanting to sell..This does't matter about money. Sony, microsoft, ea, ubisoft, and activision all have enough money to buy out 51 % of take 2 stocks allowing them to what you would call 'own' the company.
I can't believe that not one fanboy knows basic economics. I feel like not one of them has even graduated high school.
supermechakirby
Microsoft has all their pieces positioned so well right now. I doubt it will happen, but if they somehow got GTA exclusively for the Xbox 360, then it is check mate and game over Sony.DustAmuleti wouldnt say checkmate. i mean it is sony, they could pull one out a miracle from there A$$ and still win this thing. i would love to see somebody other than PS3 win, but im not gonna start doubting sony completely.
Couldn't take 2 say "hell no we don't want to have anything to do with m$"?KungfuKittennot if they're selling, and MS is the highest bidder.
[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]Couldn't take 2 say "hell no we don't want to have anything to do with m$"?fuzzysquashnot if they're selling, and MS is the highest bidder. Sigh.. There isn't any bidding for selling.... It isn't an auction when you buy out companies. When the stock value worth is lower then expected. Companies sell less then they are worth now. It isn't like 2k will ever go for 50 billion $.
[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]Couldn't take 2 say "hell no we don't want to have anything to do with m$"?fuzzysquashnot if they're selling, and MS is the highest bidder. That's weird. Though people are weird, and i've never been interested in economics.
who can compete with MS's money
NOT EVEN EA
and why wouldnt MS want T2? its GTA,
and if they get GTA, sony will NOT stand a chance in NA
and it looks bleak for sony in Japan too, because the lack of sales will get rid of FF and MGS for the PS3
and the 360 isnt far behind the PS3, there are a few key games that will drive sales in japan for the 360, trusty bell, Lost Oddyssey
and the Wii's novelty will wear off in Japan
although Im starting to think that if the wii is like the DS, that the wii wont be stopped in japan.. although the PSP isnt completely failing against the DS in Japan, the 360 may be like the PSP in Japan and wii like DS in japan
hell I watched a damn documentary on how the DS is used for MUCH more than games in japan, how museums integrate the DS into their Tours and stuff..
supermechakirby
[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]Couldn't take 2 say "hell no we don't want to have anything to do with m$"?nextgengaming18not if they're selling, and MS is the highest bidder. Sigh.. There isn't any bidding for selling.... It isn't an auction when you buy out companies. When the stock value worth is lower then expected. Companies sell less then they are worth now. It isn't like 2k will ever go for 50 billion $.
I like this topic.
You can bid on a company if they put themselves for sale. On the other hand if Take Two wants to try and salvage themselves offers can still be made, but can be denied which is not technically a bid.
If Microsoft wants it, they can get it if the majority of the stock holders in Take Two are willing to sell their stocks in the company.
The argument is MS has the deepest pockets.. so if it really came down to a money issue, well... MS would win.
[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]Couldn't take 2 say "hell no we don't want to have anything to do with m$"?audioaxesnot if they're selling, and MS is the highest bidder. Sigh.. There isn't any bidding for selling.... It isn't an auction when you buy out companies. When the stock value worth is lower then expected. Companies sell less then they are worth now. It isn't like 2k will ever go for 50 billion $.
who can compete with MS's moneyyou stated the 360 wasn't far behind the ps3? The 360 is far, far BEYOND it.
NOT EVEN EA
and why wouldnt MS want T2? its GTA,
and if they get GTA, sony will NOT stand a chance in NA
and it looks bleak for sony in Japan too, because the lack of sales will get rid of FF and MGS for the PS3
and the 360 isnt far behind the PS3, there are a few key games that will drive sales in japan for the 360, trusty bell, Lost Oddyssey
and the Wii's novelty will wear off in Japan
although Im starting to think that if the wii is like the DS, that the wii wont be stopped in japan.. although the PSP isnt completely failing against the DS in Japan, the 360 may be like the PSP in Japan and wii like DS in japan
hell I watched a damn documentary on how the DS is used for MUCH more than games in japan, how museums integrate the DS into their Tours and stuff..
supermechakirby
I am just waiting to hear..."GTA IV 360 Exclusive"JimJackJose
It would be fore more likely ea or ubi would buy it as they have more to make from it xbox has yet to make m$ $1 proffitSony doesn't stand a chance in NA any way.
And I agree with the thread. If MS wants T2, they will get T2.
eastside49er
[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"]MS can outbid other companied, tell me, you hold stocks for take 2, sony offers IDK $100 a share, and MS offers $500 a share.. which would you choose? sony has more money for games than m$ just look at ps3 vs x360 they are taking a huge loss, m$ couldn't make xbox if window sales stopped while sony's game division makes money unlike m$This does't matter about money. Sony, microsoft, ea, ubisoft, and activision all have enough money to buy out 51 % of take 2 stocks allowing them to what you would call 'own' the company.
I can't believe that not one fanboy knows basic economics. I feel like not one of them has even graduated high school.
supermechakirby
If the 360 gets GTA exclusively, they basically have Europe and NA wrapped up. eastside49erreally? I have lost interest in gta, they need to something new not just keep doing what ea does with madden
[QUOTE="eastside49er"]If the 360 gets GTA exclusively, they basically have Europe and NA wrapped up. imprezawrx500really? I have lost interest in gta, they need to something new not just keep doing what ea does with madden If GTA takes some pointers from Saint's Row, the next GTA can be revolutionary.
[QUOTE="supermechakirby"][QUOTE="nextgengaming18"]MS can outbid other companied, tell me, you hold stocks for take 2, sony offers IDK $100 a share, and MS offers $500 a share.. which would you choose? sony has more money for games than m$ just look at ps3 vs x360 they are taking a huge loss, m$ couldn't make xbox if window sales stopped while sony's game division makes money unlike m$ Are you insane? MS doesn't just have company funds, it's president is the richest man on the planet with no one even having a chance to catch him in this lifetime. MS has limitless funds.This does't matter about money. Sony, microsoft, ea, ubisoft, and activision all have enough money to buy out 51 % of take 2 stocks allowing them to what you would call 'own' the company.
I can't believe that not one fanboy knows basic economics. I feel like not one of them has even graduated high school.
imprezawrx500
Here's one reason why Microsoft might not want to buy Take Two:
They may not actually profit a huge amount from that acquisition. Setting aside the other, lesser franchises T2 owns, let's look at GTAIV. It's already simultaneous-release multiplat on PS3 and 360, and with DLC, the 360 version will be better. So the only thing that would change if MS bought T2 is that Sony would no longer have GTAIV. So that would make buying T2 a very aggressive move.
MS's goal isn't to kill Sony - it's to make as much cash as possible. Perhaps MS believes that the increase in sales of 360s due to their buying T2 would not pay for the purchase of T2 in the first place. All the extra 360 sales would have to be people who wanted a PS3 with GTA IV, and didn't want a 360, and wanted GTA IV so badly that they gave up their preferred console just to get GTA. That won't work out to a huge amount of people compared to the money MS would have to spend on T2.
Another reason why they might not want to kill sony is because they actually want some competition - IIRC, MS is being fined constantly by the US government for having a monopoly on the computing industry. Do they want that to happen with xbox as well?
MS is not only strong financially, but it's the largest and most owerful software developer in the world. Bill Gates seems to get invloved with every single area of MS. I doubt anything will compete with MS/ 360. Basically it's a fight for 2nd between the PS3 and Wii. Whoever survives will be supported by MS so they won't be sued for having a monopoly. You know Gates is the reason Mac is still alive right? He put all kinds of money into Mac so MS could have a competitor. MS has tons of power.Trashface1. :lol: 2. microsoft already said they werent bidding on take two
[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="supermechakirby"][QUOTE="nextgengaming18"]MS can outbid other companied, tell me, you hold stocks for take 2, sony offers IDK $100 a share, and MS offers $500 a share.. which would you choose? sony has more money for games than m$ just look at ps3 vs x360 they are taking a huge loss, m$ couldn't make xbox if window sales stopped while sony's game division makes money unlike m$ Are you insane? MS doesn't just have company funds, it's president is the richest man on the planet with no one even having a chance to catch him in this lifetime. MS has limitless funds. 3. bill gates is retiring in like the next year or couple years and he already announced he is giving all his money away to help with charity a reason warren buffet(2nd richest man on the planet) gave his billions to bill gates' foundation, so no they dont have limitless funds and MS as a company is not that rich, they arent even top 10 or 20 and their new OS isnt doing that well and getting a lot of bad press for being a ripoff of what apple did 5 years ago, and their OS business is the only thing that makes them money. so in other words you have no idea what you are spewingThis does't matter about money. Sony, microsoft, ea, ubisoft, and activision all have enough money to buy out 51 % of take 2 stocks allowing them to what you would call 'own' the company.
I can't believe that not one fanboy knows basic economics. I feel like not one of them has even graduated high school.
Trashface
what makes you think the 360 version will be better, DLC what is that ? they already said ps3 is the lead SKU and that CELL and blu-ray is helping them make a better game so i dont know what you are talking about.Here's one reason why Microsoft might not want to buy Take Two:
They may not actually profit a huge amount from that acquisition. Setting aside the other, lesser franchises T2 owns, let's look at GTAIV. It's already simultaneous-release multiplat on PS3 and 360, and with DLC, the 360 version will be better. So the only thing that would change if MS bought T2 is that Sony would no longer have GTAIV. So that would make buying T2 a very aggressive move.
MS's goal isn't to kill Sony - it's to make as much cash as possible. Perhaps MS believes that the increase in sales of 360s due to their buying T2 would not pay for the purchase of T2 in the first place. All the extra 360 sales would have to be people who wanted a PS3 with GTA IV, and didn't want a 360, and wanted GTA IV so badly that they gave up their preferred console just to get GTA. That won't work out to a huge amount of people compared to the money MS would have to spend on T2.
Another reason why they might not want to kill sony is because they actually want some competition - IIRC, MS is being fined constantly by the US government for having a monopoly on the computing industry. Do they want that to happen with xbox as well?
chutup
I am just waiting to hear..."GTA IV 360 Exclusive"JimJackJose
timit wont be the end of the world for sony, gta is not what has kept them going. its been games like singstar, ratchet and clank, final fantasy, killzone, resistance, gran turismo any many more. if sony loses gran turismo and singstar, then they are f#ucked, but that aint going to happen and halo and gears2 are the only things the 360 has going for it, other than that, there is no reason to get one
and everyone in this thread seams to have forgotten about jack thompson. just another reason why M$ wouldnt want to buy T2. cause there is a chance that t2 wont be around for too much longer if thompson has his way.
[QUOTE="Trashface"]MS is not only strong financially, but it's the largest and most owerful software developer in the world. Bill Gates seems to get invloved with every single area of MS. I doubt anything will compete with MS/ 360. Basically it's a fight for 2nd between the PS3 and Wii. Whoever survives will be supported by MS so they won't be sued for having a monopoly. You know Gates is the reason Mac is still alive right? He put all kinds of money into Mac so MS could have a competitor. MS has tons of power.Me_Ur_Daddy_1. :lol: 2. microsoft already said they werent bidding on take two
[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="supermechakirby"][QUOTE="nextgengaming18"]MS can outbid other companied, tell me, you hold stocks for take 2, sony offers IDK $100 a share, and MS offers $500 a share.. which would you choose? sony has more money for games than m$ just look at ps3 vs x360 they are taking a huge loss, m$ couldn't make xbox if window sales stopped while sony's game division makes money unlike m$ Are you insane? MS doesn't just have company funds, it's president is the richest man on the planet with no one even having a chance to catch him in this lifetime. MS has limitless funds. 3. bill gates is retiring in like the next year or couple years and he already announced he is giving all his money away to help with charity a reason warren buffet(2nd richest man on the planet) gave his billions to bill gates' foundation, so no they dont have limitless funds and MS as a company is not that rich, they arent even top 10 or 20 and their new OS isnt doing that well and getting a lot of bad press for being a ripoff of what apple did 5 years ago, and their OS business is the only thing that makes them money. so in other words you have no idea what you are spewing You should try actually reading posts before responding. People will take you more seriously. I never said it was MS's money. i stated it was gates and that he could put as much into MS as he needed to in order to support whatever ventures they have. You seem like a bitter Mac elitist. Hopefully for your sake, i'm wrong.This does't matter about money. Sony, microsoft, ea, ubisoft, and activision all have enough money to buy out 51 % of take 2 stocks allowing them to what you would call 'own' the company.
I can't believe that not one fanboy knows basic economics. I feel like not one of them has even graduated high school.
Trashface
[QUOTE="supermechakirby"][QUOTE="nextgengaming18"]MS can outbid other companied, tell me, you hold stocks for take 2, sony offers IDK $100 a share, and MS offers $500 a share.. which would you choose? There is no bidding for buying companies. Easy as that. Companies have a set value worth. If a company is failing there set value worth is lower. In order to control a company you need 51 % of the total stocks. When you buy up 51 % of the stocks. The stocks rise enormously making stock holders immediatly wanting to sell..This does't matter about money. Sony, microsoft, ea, ubisoft, and activision all have enough money to buy out 51 % of take 2 stocks allowing them to what you would call 'own' the company.
I can't believe that not one fanboy knows basic economics. I feel like not one of them has even graduated high school.
nextgengaming18
do you know what a take over is?Â
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