Little Big Planet 2: "Jack Of All Trades But A Master Of None"

As I was watching the video below I couldnt help but think that. I mean, the freedom the games gives you to create is incredible, but I feel the vast majority of the games created are just going to be half-assed parodies of other more popular games. I mean its great as a novelty to play a sack-boy version of limbo or something, but once you really get down to it and realize the mechanics are still floaty and the controls suck, you'll play it once and never touch it again. This game is only going to be as good as its community, and I think the truly creative levels will be buried beneath thousands of these types of popular spin offs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-AdUZeuxYc

LBP1 had plenty of original levels that were very good.

I really hope they BAN the ''Free stuff, free stickers, free combo, free achievements blablabla'' levels when browsing for the best rated levels...it gets flooded with those nowadays.

does Mario ever get boring?

The controls can be completely re-mapped, and you can change the weight of the jumping.BZSIN

Gonna be an early GOTY contender imo

The great levels will be overshadowed by all these poor spinoffs, But they're still great and with the good community that lbp has the great levels will be easy to find. On the beta forums no one even cares about that level, I don't think I've even seen it mentioned. Lockpicks maze, Are you in or out, and the caves/trials of new betah are the good levels.

As I was watching the video below I couldnt help but think that. I mean, the freedom the games gives you to create is incredible, but I feel the vast majority of the games created are just going to be half-assed parodies of other more popular games. I mean its great as a novelty to play a sack-boy version of limbo or something, but once you really get down to it and realize the mechanics are still floaty and the controls suck, you'll play it once and never touch it again. This game is only going to be as good as its community, and I think the truly creative levels will be buried beneath thousands of these types of popular spin offs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-AdUZeuxYc

black_chamber99

I do not understand anybody with the rationale that the game will be somehow less fun because some people will make crap levels. Just avoid those levels and use the rating system. Simple as that.

First off, the game will include a solid single player campaign. Second, the community for the first game is huge and has so many awesome levels that you will probably never have the time to play them all. Plus, keep in mind that these are free, user-created levels.

Lastly, of course there will be some crap developed by inexperienced level creators. But I am 100% positive that the awesomeness that the community creates will far outway the crap this time around. If you have played LBP1, you will know that there are so manyamazing creations that usually exceed the levels created by Media Molecule.

Once again, the rating system will help to keep people from loading up terrible levels.

Of course there's going to be a ton of crap levels, just like there are a ton of crap user-created levels for any game with user-created levels. You just have to go by word of mouth to find the inspired ones, just like with any PC game and its mods, and in this case the game even comes with a built-in rating system (although I still ended up asking around on the internet for really good levels in the first game). It's really not that hard to avoid the crap in LBP, so I doubt it'll be much harder in the sequel.

It really only has one "trade": making levels.

Being that your complaints are the controls (which you can change and tweak as much as one can) and the "lack" of originality from community, both of which are weak complaints.paradigm68

How is poor control a weak complaint?... I legitimately couldn't enjoy the first little big planet even though I was super psyched for it because of how terrible the platforming was. I mean if its a platformer with bad controls I dont care how crazy innovative the level designs or anything are its not going to hold up in the long run. Ive heard you can tweak the controls but ive yet to actually see that. And even if you can the default controls for this game should be GOOD.. not the crap that it was in the past game because im sure most levels are probably going to be made with the default controls and most arent going to bother to alter it. And Im sure they wont allow you to change the jump physics yourself in other peoples levels because that would in many cases ruin the level design because they were built around the physics it was .. well, built around. It was such a bad move to not just admit that the jumping was not good in the original game and try to make them better

[QUOTE="paradigm68"]Being that your complaints are the controls (which you can change and tweak as much as one can) and the "lack" of originality from community, both of which are weak complaints.VendettaRed07

How is poor control a weak complaint?... I legitimately couldn't enjoy the first little big planet even though I was super psyched for it because of how terrible the platforming was. I mean if its a platformer with bad controls I dont care how crazy innovative the level designs or anything are its not going to hold up in the long run. Ive heard you can tweak the controls but ive yet to actually see that. And even if you can the default controls for this game should be GOOD.. not the crap that it was in the past game because im sure most levels are probably going to be made with the default controls and most arent going to bother to alter it. And Im sure they wont allow you to change the jump physics yourself in other peoples levels because that would in many cases ruin the level design because they were built around the physics it was .. well, built around. It was such a bad move to not just admit that the jumping was not good in the original game and try to make them better

Well yeah but no one cares for fundamentals it seems.

lbp is the master of creation

the quote you are using continues...

"Jack of all trades, master of none. Though often times better then the master of one"

and I think that describes LBP2 best, you are correct

As I was watching the video below I couldnt help but think that. I mean, the freedom the games gives you to create is incredible, but I feel the vast majority of the games created are just going to be half-assed parodies of other more popular games. I mean its great as a novelty to play a sack-boy version of limbo or something, but once you really get down to it and realize the mechanics are still floaty and the controls suck, you'll play it once and never touch it again. This game is only going to be as good as its community, and I think the truly creative levels will be buried beneath thousands of these types of popular spin offs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-AdUZeuxYc

black_chamber99

I think you haven't done too much research on the game. Obviously, the majority of user based levels will be half-assed. That's what happens with everything that is user-based.

The good thing is, that just like in LBP one, the community directs you to the best created levels. There was some pretty genius user-created levels in the first game.

Plus it's not only levels now... it's games... movies... and basically any type of enterainment you can create with these tools.

As for floaty controls, you do know that the jump mechanics are custimizable this time around, right?

LBP1 had plenty of original levels that were very good.

spookykid143

Minus Goty

LBP1 has many thousands of amazing, original, levels as well as a very large number of levels that are inspired by other games, rather than copies of them. LBP2 is upping the ante in every way, allowing creative people to show their talents and make fun levels, and now games, for the entire community to enjoy. That's what LBP is the master of, and that's why it's one of the best games this gen.

As I was watching the video below I couldnt help but think that. I mean, the freedom the games gives you to create is incredible, but I feel the vast majority of the games created are just going to be half-assed parodies of other more popular games. I mean its great as a novelty to play a sack-boy version of limbo or something, but once you really get down to it and realize the mechanics are still floaty and the controls suck, you'll play it once and never touch it again. This game is only going to be as good as its community, and I think the truly creative levels will be buried beneath thousands of these types of popular spin offs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-AdUZeuxYc

black_chamber99

▲ That loooked pretty cool OP. ▲

[QUOTE="paradigm68"]Being that your complaints are the controls (which you can change and tweak as much as one can) and the "lack" of originality from community, both of which are weak complaints.VendettaRed07

How is poor control a weak complaint?... I legitimately couldn't enjoy the first little big planet even though I was super psyched for it because of how terrible the platforming was. I mean if its a platformer with bad controls I dont care how crazy innovative the level designs or anything are its not going to hold up in the long run. Ive heard you can tweak the controls but ive yet to actually see that. And even if you can the default controls for this game should be GOOD.. not the crap that it was in the past game because im sure most levels are probably going to be made with the default controls and most arent going to bother to alter it. And Im sure they wont allow you to change the jump physics yourself in other peoples levels because that would in many cases ruin the level design because they were built around the physics it was .. well, built around. It was such a bad move to not just admit that the jumping was not good in the original game and try to make them better

Crap game anyway. Being able to imitate other games poorly wont change that.

It's not "full" of parodies. That's the level creator, which just shows how far and amazing it is. If ANY other game could do that, you would be saying the same thing. There's plenty of the original levels, example being the Azure Palace from the first game.

You dont like LBP you got a serious problem. The first real fun, full of surprises platformer Ive played since Mario. This game series has the potential to drive the SONY brand for a long time if they do it right..

I bought the first LBP for 24 dollars on PS3. I think that's way too much. I'm not excited for this game. Will wait for it to be in the bargain bin.

▲ I played the demo, I played the first level. Pretty uninteresting imo. ▲