LIVE is the reason why Xbox 360 will be third

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#1 Sihanouk
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First time here. Don't mean to flame bait.

I enjoy reading this forum. Believe it or not, the first news often get posted here before the official site. I have been wondering lately as to why Xbox is so hard-core and has had difficulty getting the casuals on board. I think I know why. While LIVE has been quite successful for Microsoft, I think it will hurt the Xbox format in the long run. The fact that you have to pay to play on line already says to causals: If you are not hard-core don't come here. The fact that all high profile hits are hard-core materials only adds to the perception that Xbox 360 is not for everyone. Sure, you have the Arcade, but that's not why people by consoles. For this reason, I see the winner in this system war will be either Nintendo or Sony as they both have free online and their games don't weigh so much towards the FPS genres. Watch and see. Unless Microsoft makes Live free, Xbox360 will be third.

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#2 njean777
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agree thats why i only buy cards when i want live
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#3 FamiBox
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hmmm... I'm thinking of downgrading to silver on live when my gold runs out.

(Don't play online often enough for it to be worth it)

But yeah.... it should be free.

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#4 Puckhog04
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You know, just because you make 2 threads stating this doesn't make it any more true.

You made exactly the same thread about 3 minutes ago. :|

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#5 fartranger
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That service should be free. It is P2P
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#6 xgraderx
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Live kicks ass,I dont see how an excellent online service can be a consoles downfall. LOL.And "hardcore high profile hits"they rarely cause a system to fail also. HAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Dont be scared of the 360s games they all come with easy settings for casual gamers.
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#7 winner-ps3
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it should be free! i will never pay to play online, thats is ridiculous, every else its free except xbox, how do they accept it? oh wait they are all hardcore gamers willing to pay lol
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#8 loudharley
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Only a person thats never expereinced xboxlive would make a thread like this.Live is the best out there right now and if it wasnt for live i wouldnt be playing games anymore.The only reason to bash xboxlive is blind fanboyism for another console.Its plain and simple live is the best out there right now so deal with it people.I own all three new consoles so trust me i know .
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#9 unreal48
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it is somethign that holds it back but its not gonna be the downfall of the 360
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#10 HuusAsking
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it is somethign that holds it back but its not gonna be the downfall of the 360unreal48
Some would disagree with you, claiming the Live fee is like the door fee to a good club: helps keep out the riffraff.
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#11 daymo93
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[QUOTE="unreal48"]it is somethign that holds it back but its not gonna be the downfall of the 360HuusAsking
Some would disagree with you, claiming the Live fee is like the door fee to a good club: helps keep out the riffraff.

Have you played on xbox live, half the people are trash talking kids

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#12 partytimekegs
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First time here. Don't mean to flame bait.

I enjoy reading this forum. Believe it or not, the first news often get posted here before the official site. I have been wondering lately as to why Xbox is so hard-core and has had difficulty getting the casuals on board. I think I know why. While LIVE has been quite successful for Microsoft, I think it will hurt the Xbox format in the long run. The fact that you have to pay to play on line already says to causals: If you are not hard-core don't come here. The fact that all high profile hits are hard-core materials only adds to the perception that Xbox 360 is not for everyone. Sure, you have the Arcade, but that's not why people by consoles. For this reason, I see the winner in this system war will be either Nintendo or Sony as they both have free online and their games don't weigh so much towards the FPS genres. Watch and see. Unless Microsoft makes Live free, Xbox360 will be third.

Sihanouk

Lol. Really now? I played on PSN for a while on Resistance and thought it was a horrible service. You can't do anything on there.. I mean.. even chatting in a game is rare.

I pay for a good service. Didn't your Mom ever try to teach you nothing in life is free? Or at least nothing good in life?

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[QUOTE="unreal48"]it is somethign that holds it back but its not gonna be the downfall of the 360HuusAsking
Some would disagree with you, claiming the Live fee is like the door fee to a good club: helps keep out the riffraff.

I'd rather not play with bums too poor to pay 45$ a year for an online service.

Seriously.. if you can't pay 4-5 bucks a month for something like this.. then how in the hell do you buy video games?

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#14 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="unreal48"]it is somethign that holds it back but its not gonna be the downfall of the 360daymo93

Some would disagree with you, claiming the Live fee is like the door fee to a good club: helps keep out the riffraff.

Have you played on xbox live, half the people are trash talking kids

Do you report them? The "bouncers" (moderators) only work if they know there's trouble.
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#15 ByFly
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Even I am starting to think live is a rip-off.. I just don't want to go back to the ol'pc laggg.. I just don't trust the part where devloppers making server...
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#16 Deihmos
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I think Live is one of the main reasons why the Xbox 360 is so successful. It's been around since 2002 so I don't understand why it will hurt the format now.
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#17 mightyboosh13
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First time here. Don't mean to flame bait.

I enjoy reading this forum. Believe it or not, the first news often get posted here before the official site. I have been wondering lately as to why Xbox is so hard-core and has had difficulty getting the casuals on board. I think I know why. While LIVE has been quite successful for Microsoft, I think it will hurt the Xbox format in the long run. The fact that you have to pay to play on line already says to causals: If you are not hard-core don't come here. The fact that all high profile hits are hard-core materials only adds to the perception that Xbox 360 is not for everyone. Sure, you have the Arcade, but that's not why people by consoles. For this reason, I see the winner in this system war will be either Nintendo or Sony as they both have free online and their games don't weigh so much towards the FPS genres. Watch and see. Unless Microsoft makes Live free, Xbox360 will be third.

Sihanouk

You have some fair points.

IMO it should be free, I dont mind paying but average joe or casual are unlikely to pay. Maybe charge for clan rooms, clan tournaments, dedicated servers, leagues, stats etc. But it shud b free...

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#19 FallenCross
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="unreal48"]it is somethign that holds it back but its not gonna be the downfall of the 360partytimekegs

Some would disagree with you, claiming the Live fee is like the door fee to a good club: helps keep out the riffraff.

I'd rather not play with bums too poor to pay 45$ a year for an online service.

Seriously.. if you can't pay 4-5 bucks a month for something like this.. then how in the hell do you buy video games?

Thank you! Seriously, does anyone really care about $5/month? I pay that in gas just to drive to Best Buy to buy a new game.

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#20 PelekotansDream
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Only a person thats never expereinced xboxlive would make a thread like this.Live is the best out there right now and if it wasnt for live i wouldnt be playing games anymore.The only reason to bash xboxlive is blind fanboyism for another console.Its plain and simple live is the best out there right now so deal with it people.I own all three new consoles so trust me i know .loudharley
Nah I agree that it should be free and I have payed for it but refuse to buy a second year. What exactly am I paying for? You can't say a great reliable surface, you just have to look at December for the reason why and everything it does I can do on the PC for free and PSN aint that far behind, for a free service its pretty good.

How is it the best service when you have to pay for P2P?

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#21 PelekotansDream
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[QUOTE="partytimekegs"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="unreal48"]it is somethign that holds it back but its not gonna be the downfall of the 360FallenCross

Some would disagree with you, claiming the Live fee is like the door fee to a good club: helps keep out the riffraff.

I'd rather not play with bums too poor to pay 45$ a year for an online service.

Seriously.. if you can't pay 4-5 bucks a month for something like this.. then how in the hell do you buy video games?

Thank you! Seriously, does anyone really care about $5/month? I pay that in gas just to drive to Best Buy to buy a new game.

Well obviously when you get it free everywhere else. Then again, MS have a reputation for ripping people of from PC software to video game console software.
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I think its a good value and I love it.