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#1 Ultizer
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So Carmack and id have said Doom 4 is gonna be their big Graphics benchmarking game, just like Doom 3 was and Crysis is at the moment.

but its multi-platform?

if Crytek couldnt do it with Crysis 2, id wont be able to do it with consoles holding it back.

hopefully it will become exclusive

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#2 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Hopefully. I bet you they won't though, devs never go back to solely PC.
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#3 Ultizer
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Hopefully. I bet you they won't though, devs never go back to solely PC.ocstew

blizzard are still PC only

and they are the most succesful dev

oh the irony

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[QUOTE="ocstew"]Hopefully. I bet you they won't though, devs never go back to solely PC.Ultizer

blizzard are still PC only

and they are the most succesful dev

oh the irony

they have been thinking about consoles, so hah the joke's on you!
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#5 Jesus_on_fire
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I thought it was PC Exclusive?

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#6 GulliversTravel
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He said that it will be toned down for the consoles. Given the fact its a linear shooter (most likely) it cant be hard, unlike Crysis where its size makes it impossible for consoles.
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#7 Ultizer
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He said that it will be toned down for the consoles. Given the fact its a linear shooter (most likely) it cant be hard, unlike Crysis where its size makes it impossible for consoles.GulliversTravel

i dunno... crytek said the same thing and the PC version is looking dumbed down

what if they wanna make doom 4 like doom 2? sandbox style like crysis in the city? oh god that sounds good

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#8 AAllxxjjnn
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Hey, i guess we'll see if they unveil it at Quakecon 2010.
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#9 -Feath-
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[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

[QUOTE="ocstew"]Hopefully. I bet you they won't though, devs never go back to solely PC.deleterguy

blizzard are still PC only

and they are the most succesful dev

oh the irony

they have been thinking about consoles, so hah the joke's on you!

They've been talking about consoles since 1998, not much has ever materialised from it.
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#10 warmaster670
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[QUOTE="ocstew"]Hopefully. I bet you they won't though, devs never go back to solely PC.Ultizer

blizzard are still PC only

and they are the most succesful dev

oh the irony

Your in denial if you think blizzards succes has anything to do with pc gamers, id bet over half of wows players dont even play any other pc games.

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#11 Ultizer
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[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

[QUOTE="ocstew"]Hopefully. I bet you they won't though, devs never go back to solely PC.warmaster670

blizzard are still PC only

and they are the most succesful dev

oh the irony

Your in denial if you think blizzards succes has anything to do with pc gamers, id bet over half of wows players dont even play any other pc games.

most wow players havent even played a blizzard game, most Wow players are.... dont get me started.... god...

im taling about SC/WC/Diablo

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#12 Sollet
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[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

Hopefully. I bet you they won't though, devs never go back to solely PC.ocstew

blizzard are still PC only

and they are the most succesful dev

oh the irony

Your in denial if you think blizzards succes has anything to do with pc gamers, id bet over half of wows players dont even play any other pc games.

uhm what? Yeah because WoW is the only thing Blizzard ever made.
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#13 Ultizer
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[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

blizzard are still PC only

and they are the most succesful dev

oh the irony

Sollet

Your in denial if you think blizzards succes has anything to do with pc gamers, id bet over half of wows players dont even play any other pc games.

uhm what? Yeah because WoW is the only thing Blizzard ever made.

he speaks the truth tho

when Wow first come out, it was played by people who played other MMOs and mostly WC rts fans

after it got a 3-4mil subs, it got alot of attention (thanks south park) and attracted many people that havent even played a blizzard game

the thing is, Wow doesnt require a gaming PC to run, it runs on anything made in the last 7-8 years, so alot of casuals and console gamers were able to join in

after TBC, wotlk went casual, everything got too easy, the Wow community right now is so terrible.... its so bad, really XBL even has a better community... no joke

the only good servers left are the RP servers, youll find good players there

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#14 Sollet
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[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

[QUOTE="Sollet"][QUOTE="warmaster670"]

Your in denial if you think blizzards succes has anything to do with pc gamers, id bet over half of wows players dont even play any other pc games.

uhm what? Yeah because WoW is the only thing Blizzard ever made.

he speaks the truth tho

when Wow first come out, it was played by people who played other MMOs and mostly WC rts fans

after it got a 3-4mil subs, it got alot of attention (thanks south park) and attracted many people that havent even played a blizzard game

the thing is, Wow doesnt require a gaming PC to run, it runs on anything made in the last 7-8 years, so alot of casuals and console gamers were able to join in

after TBC, wotlk went casual, everything got too easy, the Wow community right now is so terrible.... its so bad, really XBL even has a better community... no joke

the only good servers left are the RP servers, youll find good players there

Blizzard did good before wow too. Sure wow helped a helluva a lot.
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#15 BeyondPain
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They could do it on both consoles and the PC but go all out for the PC so it does become that benchmark. I'm just hoping that the marine finds some tape so he doesn't have to keep switching to his flash light.
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#16 trasherhead
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Id is probably the best dev in the industry when it comes to tech. So if anyone can do it it is Carmack. Only one that really comes close is Valve. Crytek don't come close.
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#17 skrat_01
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they have been thinking about consoles, so hah the joke's on you!deleterguy
Don't you mean. They also developed a console game once. Then canceled it. Not really funny is it?
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#18 mysterj
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Blizzard is an exception cuz MMO/RTS has no market and kinda sux on console, you don't see valve staying PC exclusive do you.
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#19 Ultizer
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[QUOTE="deleterguy"]they have been thinking about consoles, so hah the joke's on you!skrat_01
Don't you mean. They also developed a console game once. Then canceled it. Not really funny is it?

ive had a nice chat with a blizzard GM on the fourms years ago

one of the reasons they didnt bring out SC ghost was because

well its hard to explain

he pretty much said this

blizzard like to have the best of every genre, SC best RTS, wow Best MMO, Diablo Best Wrpg

he said they couldnt compete with Halo, they pretty much realized Halo 2 was revolutionizing console FPS's and matchmaking (console online etc)

Blizzard couldnt compete.

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#20 Jean_rainier
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[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

[QUOTE="ocstew"]Hopefully. I bet you they won't though, devs never go back to solely PC.warmaster670

blizzard are still PC only

and they are the most succesful dev

oh the irony

Your in denial if you think blizzards succes has anything to do with pc gamers, id bet over half of wows players dont even play any other pc games.

exactly, same for the wii. i alot of people just bought it for the base nintendo mascot games like mario, zelda, metroid.. etc

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#21 BeyondPain
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Blizzard is an exception cuz MMO/RTS has no market and kinda sux on console, you don't see valve staying PC exclusive do you.mysterj
That is actually and very good point... Maybe if they released SC ghost, I could counter it :P
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#22 Magik85
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I guess it can be looker even on consoles...i mean i Dont like Rage's artstyle but technicly this game looks really awesome even on consoles...and it has some huge spaces and 60 FPS. ID mentioned that DOOM4 will run on consoles in 30 FPS so they can make it look way better than Rage...and Doom will most likely have small locations and less open spaces, that also will let them put much more details. @TC...Doom3 was also multiplatform ;)
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#23 Ultizer
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I guess it can be looker even on consoles...i mean i Dont like Rage's artstyle but technicly this game looks really awesome even on consoles...and it has some huge spaces and 60 FPS. ID mentioned that DOOM4 will run on consoles in 30 FPS so they can make it look way better than Rage...and Doom will most likely have small locations and less open spaces, that also will let them put much more details. @TC...Doom3 was also multiplatform ;)Magik85

Doom 3 was on XBox, Xbox was quite powerful for a console, kicked the PS2's and GC's ass

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#24 Magik85
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Current consoles arent any more dated compared to PC than original Xbox was back then..
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#25 svenus97
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[QUOTE="deleterguy"][QUOTE="Ultizer"]

blizzard are still PC only

and they are the most succesful dev

oh the irony

-Feath-

they have been thinking about consoles, so hah the joke's on you!

They've been talking about consoles since 1998, not much has ever materialised from it.

Diablo is on the PlayStation.

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#26 Thunderdrone
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Doom 3 was garbage. I hope they go back to old formula of balls-to-the-wall demon killing action.
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#27 Thunderdrone
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[QUOTE="-Feath-"][QUOTE="deleterguy"] they have been thinking about consoles, so hah the joke's on you!svenus97

They've been talking about consoles since 1998, not much has ever materialised from it.

Diablo is on the PlayStation.

And Starcraft is on the N64

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#28 goblaa
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Considering that Doom 3 was, well...bad. I don't care about Doom 4.

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#29 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="deleterguy"]they have been thinking about consoles, so hah the joke's on you!Ultizer

Don't you mean. They also developed a console game once. Then canceled it. Not really funny is it?

ive had a nice chat with a blizzard GM on the fourms years ago

one of the reasons they didnt bring out SC ghost was because

well its hard to explain

he pretty much said this

blizzard like to have the best of every genre, SC best RTS, wow Best MMO, Diablo Best Wrpg

he said they couldnt compete with Halo, they pretty much realized Halo 2 was revolutionizing console FPS's and matchmaking (console online etc)

Blizzard couldnt compete.

Blizzard do have high standards. This is certainly a good thing.
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#30 brumley53
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Hopefully. I bet you they won't though, devs never go back to solely PC.ocstew

Battlefield 3 will be exclusive to PC

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#31 Sniping_Crowbar
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This guys trolls hard on these forums about PC gaming in general, he said something LIke he was done with PC gaming becasue no dedicated servers and was in super "doom of teh PC" mode a couple months ago talking about RAGE and what not.
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#32 Bus-A-Bus
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Doom 4 will own many many games graphically...I will use this thread as showing what not to say when legends like Carmack come to mind.And ofcourse,when Doom 4 demolishes everything...

Untile Quakecon...little word from Carmack...

Doom 4 "three times" Rage visual quality

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/doom-4-three-times-rage-visual-quality

If you think about it,more optimiziation,twice the time to render everything it could turn out that way but 3 times as RAGE?Rage looks totally crazy...

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So Carmack and id have said Doom 4 is gonna be their big Graphics benchmarking game, just like Doom 3 was and Crysis is at the moment.

but its multi-platform?

if Crytek couldnt do it with Crysis 2, id wont be able to do it with consoles holding it back.

hopefully it will become exclusive

Ultizer

Doom 3 was on the original Xbox. Sooooo. You are not correct here. Besides, considering the massive quality difference between all 3 of Rage versions, I cant seem to understand you.

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#34 Ultizer
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This guys trolls hard on these forums about PC gaming in general, he said something LIke he was done with PC gaming becasue no dedicated servers and was in super "doom of teh PC" mode a couple months ago talking about RAGE and what not.Sniping_Crowbar

i was annoyed Rage was built around consoles and not PC, felt betrayed like the Cod players did

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[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]He said that it will be toned down for the consoles. Given the fact its a linear shooter (most likely) it cant be hard, unlike Crysis where its size makes it impossible for consoles.Ultizer

i dunno... crytek said the same thing and the PC version is looking dumbed down

what if they wanna make doom 4 like doom 2? sandbox style like crysis in the city? oh god that sounds good

Which is the reason why Crytek couldnt have the game in a jungle and yet release on consoles. Who knows how Doom 4 will play, but chances are its environments will be linear.
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#36 Santesyu
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I thought it was PC Exclusive?

Jesus_on_fire
Doom 4 being exclusive would sadden me..
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#37 Bus-A-Bus
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[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]He said that it will be toned down for the consoles. Given the fact its a linear shooter (most likely) it cant be hard, unlike Crysis where its size makes it impossible for consoles.GulliversTravel

i dunno... crytek said the same thing and the PC version is looking dumbed down

what if they wanna make doom 4 like doom 2? sandbox style like crysis in the city? oh god that sounds good

Which is the reason why Crytek couldnt have the game in a jungle and yet release on consoles. Who knows how Doom 4 will play, but chances are its environments will be linear.

Yea...linear...so they will change all that open world,sandboxish design of Doom just to fit it on consoles :roll:

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#38 Ultizer
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[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

So Carmack and id have said Doom 4 is gonna be their big Graphics benchmarking game, just like Doom 3 was and Crysis is at the moment.

but its multi-platform?

if Crytek couldnt do it with Crysis 2, id wont be able to do it with consoles holding it back.

hopefully it will become exclusive

DragoonKain1687

Doom 3 was on the original Xbox. Sooooo. You are not correct here. Besides, considering the massive quality difference between all 3 of Rage versions, I cant seem to understand you.

PC version of rage is a console port, they better redeem themselves with Doom 4, like Dice are with BF3

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i dunno... crytek said the same thing and the PC version is looking dumbed down what if they wanna make doom 4 like doom 2? sandbox style like crysis in the city? _____________________________________________
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#40 Ultizer
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[QUOTE="Jesus_on_fire"]

I thought it was PC Exclusive?

Santesyu

Doom 4 being exclusive would sadden me..

Build a gaming PC

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#42 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="DragoonKain1687"]

[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

So Carmack and id have said Doom 4 is gonna be their big Graphics benchmarking game, just like Doom 3 was and Crysis is at the moment.

but its multi-platform?

if Crytek couldnt do it with Crysis 2, id wont be able to do it with consoles holding it back.

hopefully it will become exclusive

Ultizer

Doom 3 was on the original Xbox. Sooooo. You are not correct here. Besides, considering the massive quality difference between all 3 of Rage versions, I cant seem to understand you.

PC version of rage is a console port, they better redeem themselves with Doom 4, like Dice are with BF3

Wha? Redeem themselves? Rage looks amazing. Crysis 2 looks amazing. You've talked about both of them as though we can judge them fairly....look better/on par with anything out there.
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#43 o0squishy0o
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Unless they run Doom4 on lowest for consoles and really drop things like high amounts of sound channels etc it will automatically nerf the game for the PC hardware. They really do need to throw all the best tech out there, get DX11 or maybe DX11.5 or 12 will full world tessalation, like seriously bring systems to their knees when they have everything cranked up. Alot of games that are coming out for PC that are on consoles as well you can tell straight away were they have had to make sacrifices for the poor hardware.

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#44 DarkGamer007
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I thought it was PC Exclusive?

Jesus_on_fire

As of now it is, however I can see it making its way to consoles when the technology allows for it. It might release on PC in say two years, but won't come to (next generation) consoles until a few years after that.

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#45 Ravensmash
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Unless they run Doom4 on lowest for consoles and really drop things like high amounts of sound channels etc it will automatically nerf the game for the PC hardware. They really do need to throw all the best tech out there, get DX11 or maybe DX11.5 or 12 will full world tessalation, like seriously bring systems to their knees when they have everything cranked up. Alot of games that are coming out for PC that are on consoles as well you can tell straight away were they have had to make sacrifices for the poor hardware.

o0squishy0o
Any examples? Out of curiosity seriously, not trying to argue.
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#46 VideoGameGuy
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Blizzard made The Lost vikings..one of my favorite SNES games..
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#47 Vesica_Prime
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Wasn't Doom 3, Far Cry, Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, Half-Life 2 also multiplat?

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#48 enterawesome
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Doom 3 was the graphical benchmark last gen and that was on Xbox...
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#50 ThatGuyFromB4
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Non-RTS/MMO PC exclusives are dead, the soon PC gamers accept this, the better.