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#1 Zero5000X
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Single button combat? thats just terrible. i was looking forward to eventually getting this game too. It has flop written all over it. whats this game hyped again?
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previews of the game have been nothing but positive about the combat system. In fact they said while on paper it looks and sounds simple, but it has its own deep and complex scheme as well.

And seriousaly Cows hype Killzone. the sequal to a piece of trash game.

While Fable 2 is the sequal to a AA game that did very well in sales as well.
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#3 Zero5000X
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previews of the game have been nothing but positive about the combat system. In fact they said while on paper it looks and sounds simple, but it has its own deep and complex scheme as well.

And seriousaly Cows hype Killzone. the sequal to a piece of trash game.

While Fable 2 is the sequal to a AA game that did very well in sales as well.jg4xchamp

i can't see one button combat being complex or deep no matter how you look at it.

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#4 TheCrazed420
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I read into the single button combat thing a bit more, and it actually sounds really good. It basically plays like a rhythm game where you need to time your presses according to where your at in your attack animations. Depending on your stance and your position in relation to the enemy, it will alter the pattern. That actually sounds like a really unique and intriguing take on the real-time fighting in an RPG.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]previews of the game have been nothing but positive about the combat system. In fact they said while on paper it looks and sounds simple, but it has its own deep and complex scheme as well.

And seriousaly Cows hype Killzone. the sequal to a piece of trash game.

While Fable 2 is the sequal to a AA game that did very well in sales as well.Zero5000X

i can't see one button combat being complex or deep no matter how you look at it.

well you dont but people who touched the controller did find many positives about it.

Also combat in rpgs blow. in wrpg they blow alot. so right now any improvement or any act in doing something different is a good thing, especially when its getting some good previews from some critics.
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#6 Zero5000X
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is there an official hype for this game?
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#7 buuzer0
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previews of the game have been nothing but positive about the combat system. In fact they said while on paper it looks and sounds simple, but it has its own deep and complex scheme as well.

And seriousaly Cows hype Killzone. the sequal to a piece of trash game.

While Fable 2 is the sequal to a AA game that did very well in sales as well.jg4xchamp

Previews are almost always positive, no matter what. I'll wait until a review from someone who has played for hours with this setup before taking any word on it. At this point, 1 button combat sounds stupid no matter how you slice it.

And yeah, you would think Cows would learn about hyping every game they see. But this thread isn't about Flopzone.

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#8 Storm_Winds
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is there an official hype for this game?Zero5000X

Wait till Lemmings hype it to be greatest RPG ever!!!111 along with Peter Molyneux. Like they did with Fable 1, o damn i remember the ownage at here when Fable flopped. :lol:

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#9 OGTiago
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Lets see when it comes out.
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#10 justforlotr2004
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Single button combat? thats just terrible. i was looking forward to eventually getting this game too. It has flop written all over it. whats this game hyped again?Zero5000X

How is it terrible if it works? An interactive fight and having to strategically think of where your at in the environment could very well change the way combat works in games. It looked pretty good in the demo's they have shown off, but they still got a long time to polish it all and make it look great. Im not going to totally go with it and say its going to be amazing but Im defiantly going to give it a chance since I think it has some potential. Though I do expect those people that are just button mashing hack and slash people wont really enjoy it as much as those who actually try and play how its supose to be played.

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#11 BillGates_Money
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didnt oblivion have single player combat?
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#12 Hermitkermit
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Fable 2 is one of my most anticipated games of 2008!!! The combat system I think has hold on button and release to attack or break through people's blocks and tapping it slow or fast will set of some kind of rhyme combat. Still looking forward to Fable 2, and I don't think the hype is high, never seen any Fable threads in SW in a while...
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#13 deviates1080
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From what I heard it sounds pretty good. I enjoyed the original, and all the comments I've heard so far have been pretty positive.
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#14 justforlotr2004
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didnt oblivion have single player combat?BillGates_Money

Single button combat not player. Anyway yes it had one button combat if you dont coun t the shield, though Elder scrolls game never has been about button combos or stuff like that. This idea is diffrent, you have to use your enviroment acordingly and also the way you push the button also determines how you fight also. So instead of pushing BBYABXB to just slams someones head into the wall or to grab and throw an object you can just push the X button and its will do what you want if you poition yourself right in the fight.

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#15 deviates1080
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It's nice to see someone do something a bit different, rather than the same model being used for combat in games.
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#16 Zero5000X
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[QUOTE="BillGates_Money"]didnt oblivion have single player combat?justforlotr2004

Single button combat not player. Anyway yes it had one button combat if you dont coun t the shield, though Elder scrolls game never has been about button combos or stuff like that. This idea is diffrent, you have to use your enviroment acordingly and also the way you push the button also determines how you fight also. So instead of pushing BBYABXB to just slams someones head into the wall or to grab and throw an object you can just push the X button and its will do what you want if you poition yourself right in the fight.

no offense but you just made it sound even crappier.

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#17 Lonelynight
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Its actaully one of the games that makes me regret not having a 360, hopes it gets ported to the PC
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#18 Zero5000X
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Its actaully one of the games that makes me regret not having a 360, hopes it gets ported to the PCLonelynight

theres no doubt in my mind that it will.

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#19 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="BillGates_Money"]didnt oblivion have single player combat?Zero5000X

Single button combat not player. Anyway yes it had one button combat if you dont coun t the shield, though Elder scrolls game never has been about button combos or stuff like that. This idea is diffrent, you have to use your enviroment acordingly and also the way you push the button also determines how you fight also. So instead of pushing BBYABXB to just slams someones head into the wall or to grab and throw an object you can just push the X button and its will do what you want if you poition yourself right in the fight.

no offense but you just made it sound even crappier.

Well thats your problem not mine. You must be some button masher that just likes to run around slashing everyone.

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#20 CaseyWegner
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is there an official hype for this game?Zero5000X

not yet.

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#21 Lonelynight
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]Its actaully one of the games that makes me regret not having a 360, hopes it gets ported to the PCZero5000X

theres no doubt in my mind that it will.

Hope it gets ported in a year or so

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#22 Zero5000X
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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="BillGates_Money"]didnt oblivion have single player combat?justforlotr2004

Single button combat not player. Anyway yes it had one button combat if you dont coun t the shield, though Elder scrolls game never has been about button combos or stuff like that. This idea is diffrent, you have to use your enviroment acordingly and also the way you push the button also determines how you fight also. So instead of pushing BBYABXB to just slams someones head into the wall or to grab and throw an object you can just push the X button and its will do what you want if you poition yourself right in the fight.

no offense but you just made it sound even crappier.

Well thats your problem not mine. You must be some button masher that just likes to run around slashing everyone.

you don't even really have to do anything. just press one button and it does stuff for you.

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#23 Bigboss232
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if you dont like it than dont play it one button is something new they would like to try unlike fable 1 button mahing. Where would gaming be if everyone had a wii mote or if there were only sony porducts I think its and interesting scheme and I hope they cover more in the future.
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#24 elite_ferns1
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and what about lair, the game that was suppose to sell six-axis.
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#25 The_Ish
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Please claim flop after the game releases, and only if it actually flops. :|

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#26 Weapons_Free
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The game will still probably be pretty good. And you can find a 9 minute video where it shows/explains the one-button weapon system.
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#27 leviathan91
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previews of the game have been nothing but positive about the combat system. In fact they said while on paper it looks and sounds simple, but it has its own deep and complex scheme as well.

And seriousaly Cows hype Killzone. the sequal to a piece of trash game.

While Fable 2 is the sequal to a AA game that did very well in sales as well.jg4xchamp

The funny thing is that KZ2 has also gotten some good criticism.:? The A.I. is aggressive and the controls are smooth acording to GameInformer, Gamespot, and IGN.

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#28 ReverseCycology
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Fable 2 > Folklore thats for sure

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#30 TheSystemLord1
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]previews of the game have been nothing but positive about the combat system. In fact they said while on paper it looks and sounds simple, but it has its own deep and complex scheme as well.

And seriousaly Cows hype Killzone. the sequal to a piece of trash game.

While Fable 2 is the sequal to a AA game that did very well in sales as well.Zero5000X

i can't see one button combat being complex or deep no matter how you look at it.

I can't see your main argument being deep and complex at all either, Fable 2 is going to own, surefire AA.

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#31 Zero5000X
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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]previews of the game have been nothing but positive about the combat system. In fact they said while on paper it looks and sounds simple, but it has its own deep and complex scheme as well.

And seriousaly Cows hype Killzone. the sequal to a piece of trash game.

While Fable 2 is the sequal to a AA game that did very well in sales as well.TheSystemLord1

i can't see one button combat being complex or deep no matter how you look at it.

I can't see your main argument being deep and complex at all either, Fable 2 is going to own, surefire AA.

i'm sure it will get AA. it will be better than blue dragon for sure. I don't think it will "own" anything though.

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#32 DSgamer64
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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]is there an official hype for this game?Storm_Winds

Wait till Lemmings hype it to be greatest RPG ever!!!111 along with Peter Molyneux. Like they did with Fable 1, o damn i remember the ownage at here when Fable flopped. :lol:

I lost respect for that man after he claimed that Lionhead Studios would not be bought out, yet a few days later they were. He is the biggest sellout in gaming history as far as I am concerned.

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#33 waynehead895
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I could swear alot of rpgs have single button combat. Maybe I imagined that.
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#34 mistervengeance
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fable has always been garbage.... it's no surprise.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]previews of the game have been nothing but positive about the combat system. In fact they said while on paper it looks and sounds simple, but it has its own deep and complex scheme as well.

And seriousaly Cows hype Killzone. the sequal to a piece of trash game.

While Fable 2 is the sequal to a AA game that did very well in sales as well.Zero5000X

i can't see one button combat being complex or deep no matter how you look at it.

Yeah, it sounds like a very dumbed down expieriece to me...

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#36 goodlay
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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]is there an official hype for this game?Storm_Winds

Wait till Lemmings hype it to be greatest RPG ever!!!111 along with Peter Molyneux. Like they did with Fable 1, o damn i remember the ownage at here when Fable flopped. :lol:

Guys Killzone is the Halo killer, remember?

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#37 Vandalvideo
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Molyneux has a long way to go to convince me to buy another one of his games after the double dose of Fable and black and white 2.
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#38 -Sora
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Its an RPG, not Ninja Gaiden. It is not suppose to have deep combat :|
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#39 deactivated-586249e1b64ba
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Molyneux's got plenty of work to do if he wants people to take him and his games seriously again.

Using only one button for a huge variety ofactions is cool, but it'll be pretty difficult to pull off since people will likely end up doing things more accidentally and encounter difficulty doing what they want to do.

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#40 Unholy_Smite
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Single button combat? thats just terrible. i was looking forward to eventually getting this game too. It has flop written all over it. whats this game hyped again?Zero5000X

A little mad we can't get it are we?

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#41 Loonie
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Its actaully one of the games that makes me regret not having a 360, hopes it gets ported to the PCLonelynight

It will do, the first one did.

I'm counting on Mass Effect being ported to PC as well, KoTOR and Jade Empire were.

Its nice that you can use 360 gamepads with the PC too :D

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#42 Trading_Zoner
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[QUOTE="Storm_Winds"]

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]is there an official hype for this game?goodlay

Wait till Lemmings hype it to be greatest RPG ever!!!111 along with Peter Molyneux. Like they did with Fable 1, o damn i remember the ownage at here when Fable flopped. :lol:

Guys Killzone is the Halo killer, remember?

Blue Dragon is the FF killer remember?

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#43 blackace
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]previews of the game have been nothing but positive about the combat system. In fact they said while on paper it looks and sounds simple, but it has its own deep and complex scheme as well.

And seriousaly Cows hype Killzone. the sequal to a piece of trash game.

While Fable 2 is the sequal to a AA game that did very well in sales as well.Zero5000X

i can't see one button combat being complex or deep no matter how you look at it.

If you use the analog sticks and the triggers it could be. We don't know how it's going to play, so you can't judge it until we at least play a demo.

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#44 DarkRider23
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Didn't Fable have single button combat?
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#45 goodlay
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[QUOTE="goodlay"][QUOTE="Storm_Winds"]

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]is there an official hype for this game?Trading_Zoner

Wait till Lemmings hype it to be greatest RPG ever!!!111 along with Peter Molyneux. Like they did with Fable 1, o damn i remember the ownage at here when Fable flopped. :lol:

Guys Killzone is the Halo killer, remember?

Blue Dragon is the FF killer remember?

No, I don't actually, seeing I didn't even hype BD.

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#46 deactivated-586249e1b64ba
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Didn't Fable have single button combat?DarkRider23

There was aseparate button for blocking/dodging, special attacks, and regular attacks if my memory is right.

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#47 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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WoW has single button combat, as far as i'm concerned.

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#48 cyborgjak427
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[QUOTE="DarkRider23"]Didn't Fable have single button combat?Technoweirdo

There was aseparate button for blocking/dodging, special attacks, and regular attacks if my memory is right.

Correct:D, I'm looking forward to seeing if Peter M. can hold up his end of the bargin with all of the stuff that's going into the game.

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#49 Zero5000X
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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]Single button combat? thats just terrible. i was looking forward to eventually getting this game too. It has flop written all over it. whats this game hyped again?Unholy_Smite

A little mad we can't get it are we?

firstly i dont really think i want it now. secondly i have a PC so i could get it when it comes out for PC.

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#50 Zero5000X
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WoW has single button combat, as far as i'm concerned.

paullywog

Well maybe if you just use the mouse to point and click on every spell or attack you wanna do. Most people use hotkeys to atleast some degree though.