Lol @ MS now ripping off the Wii, after swiping clean the PS3.

Seriously, MS can sure talk tuff for a company that rips of the PS3 and now the Wii. (if true)

"1080p isn't needed, Bluray isn't nessessary, 720p is the sweet spot...blah blah.

Now look at MS's playing catch up....

1080p

HDMI

Bigger HDD

Black console

Soon to be Bluray drive.

Geez, MS why not just name it the PS3 while your at it?

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

cant wait to use the Motion controller with the epic BANJO 3, should be a unforgettable experience.

black? wait wasn't the original xbox black? and till microsoft confirms the motion sensing controller which i dont believe they have yet...its still rumor. Or did i miss some thing where microsoft confirms this?

P.S: microsoft had a motion sensing controller on the pc long before the wiimote, and the sixcrapis.

Seriously, MS can sure talk tuff for a company that rips of the PS3 and now the Wii. (if true)

"1080p isn't needed, Bluray isn't nessessary, 720p is the sweet spot...blah blah.

Now look at MS's playing catch up....

1080p

HDMI

Bigger HDD

Black console

Soon to be Bluray drive.

Geez, MS why not just name it the PS3 while your at it?

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

Forensic-Klown

black? wait wasn't the original xbox black? and till microsoft confirms the motion sensing controller which i dont believe they have yet...its still rumor. Or did i miss some thing where microsoft confirms this?

P.S: microsoft had a motion sensing controller on the pc long before the wiimote, and the sixcrapis.

WilliamRLBaker

Im not sure. I thought I remember when mine would be sitting in the sun a little...It looked like a dark green. That could have been from the sun itself but I dont think so..

It's kind've ridiculous of MS to come out with such a thing after calling motion controls a gimmick so many times.

I can forgive them though, I am more interested in how they implement it. I think Sony took the right path building motion controls into a fully functioning controller. I'll be interested to see what MS does with it.

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

Forensic-Klown

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

UnnDunn

Owned!

That was beautiful. Lol.

[QUOTE="UnnDunn"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

BioShockOwnz

Owned!

That was beautiful. Lol.

Actually there was a company even before MS did that, but nobody ever supported them with games. Nintendo and Sony are the ones that actually took it and really pushed it for the first time, while MS just called it a gimmick.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="UnnDunn"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

EmperorSupreme

Owned!

That was beautiful. Lol.

Actually there was a company even before MS did that, but nobody ever supported them with games. Nintendo and Sony are the ones that actually took it and really pushed it for the first time, while MS just called it a gimmick.

I still wonder why the hell it's in my DualShock 3 controller. What a worthless added expense to the controller.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

Actually there was a company even before MS did that, but nobody ever supported them with games. Nintendo and Sony are the ones that actually took it and really pushed it for the first time, while MS just called it a gimmick.

BioShockOwnz

I still wonder why the hell it's in my DualShock 3 controller. What a worthless added expense to the controller.

Well boo hoo for you... Nintendo, Sony and now MS think it's worth it.

WOW so quiet in here....:)

WOW so quiet in here....:)

Forensic-Klown

you do realize that all this 'rip-off' is actually a good thing for us 360 owners right?

getting the best of the other consoles to the 360, i really dont give a **** if microsoft is a rip-off company, but whatever makes you sleep at night

Seriously, MS can sure talk tuff for a company that rips of the PS3 and now the Wii. (if true)

"1080p isn't needed, Bluray isn't nessessary, 720p is the sweet spot...blah blah.

Now look at MS's playing catch up....

1080p

HDMI

Bigger HDD

Black console

Soon to be Bluray drive.

Geez, MS why not just name it the PS3 while your at it?

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

Forensic-Klown

1080p was on 360 before ps3

HDMI was just do it could fit the normal tv plugs, everything that uses HD has hdmi, not just ps3.

Bigger HDD, maybe thats just becasue of XboxOriginals and more demand for more space

You cant copy a colour, its just that they though it looked cool

We don't know for sure and maybe it's just because M$ want it to have HD movie playback so blu-ray is there only option.

Wiimote, well ps3 copied it of wii before 360 copied it off both

They are all changes made for a reason apart from let's just copy the ps3.

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

WOW so quiet in here....:)

Kirlok

you do realize that all this 'rip-off' is actually a good thing for us 360 owners right?

getting the best of the other consoles to the 360, i really dont give a **** if microsoft is a rip-off company, but whatever makes you sleep at night

Good 4 you, but try and control your X-soldiers...they were the ones crying constantly over Sony and ripping ideas. This is even Worse since MS argued against what there competitors did, but later jumped ship.

[QUOTE="Tylendal"]I'm just remembering how much hue and cry there was in the forums about the SIXAXIS and the "Copystation 3". Now Microsoft is bringing this out, and it's all *Yawn*.Forensic-Klown

Tell me about it...its even worse when MS was against most of it. Didn't MS say the Wii was gimmicky at some point?

LOL.

No I remember Microsoft being very much in support of the Wii, and called Sixaxis gimmicky.

Maybe Nintendo should steal some online ideas from microsoft.

the jokes on you buddy.

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Seriously, MS can sure talk tuff for a company that rips of the PS3 and now the Wii. (if true)

"1080p isn't needed, Bluray isn't nessessary, 720p is the sweet spot...blah blah.

Now look at MS's playing catch up....

1080p

HDMI

Bigger HDD

Black console

Soon to be Bluray drive.

Geez, MS why not just name it the PS3 while your at it?

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

angelkimne

1080p was on 360 before ps3

HDMI was just do it could fit the normal tv plugs, everything that uses HD has hdmi, not just ps3.

Bigger HDD, maybe thats just becasue of XboxOriginals and more demand for more space

You cant copy a colour, its just that they though it looked cool

We don't know for sure and maybe it's just because M$ want it to have HD movie playback so blu-ray is there only option.

Wiimote, well ps3 copied it of wii before 360 copied it off both

They are all changes made for a reason apart from let's just copy the ps3.

Yep after SONY bragged about it FIRST and indroduced it along side bluray even b4 the PS3 was released. before that it was 720p and sticking to there promises for the 360...LOL. Get informed.

Maybe you should read better, i didn't argue anything about SONY NOT copying, but MS was against what sony offered from the get go..but later added it.

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Seriously, MS can sure talk tuff for a company that rips of the PS3 and now the Wii. (if true)

"1080p isn't needed, Bluray isn't nessessary, 720p is the sweet spot...blah blah.

Now look at MS's playing catch up....

1080p

HDMI

Bigger HDD

Black console

Soon to be Bluray drive.

Geez, MS why not just name it the PS3 while your at it?

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

Forensic-Klown

1080p was on 360 before ps3

HDMI was just do it could fit the normal tv plugs, everything that uses HD has hdmi, not just ps3.

Bigger HDD, maybe thats just becasue of XboxOriginals and more demand for more space

You cant copy a colour, its just that they though it looked cool

We don't know for sure and maybe it's just because M$ want it to have HD movie playback so blu-ray is there only option.

Wiimote, well ps3 copied it of wii before 360 copied it off both

They are all changes made for a reason apart from let's just copy the ps3.

Yep after SONY bragged about it FIRST and indroduced it along side bluray even b4 the PS3 was released. before that it was 720p and sticking to there promises for the 360...LOL. Get informed.

Maybe you should read better, i didn't argue anything about SONY NOT copying, but MS was against what sony offered from the get go..but later added it.

Wow, that's one thing, 1080p, and we don't even know if M$ was planning before ps3.

Everyone in this Business Copys someone. black_awpN1

Not even past the first post *face palm*

But it's pretty obvious that MS would do this. They're after profits after all. The best way is to get their console mainstream and into as many homes as possible. This fits in with their digital download model and their center of home entertainment.

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Seriously, MS can sure talk tuff for a company that rips of the PS3 and now the Wii. (if true)

"1080p isn't needed, Bluray isn't nessessary, 720p is the sweet spot...blah blah.

Now look at MS's playing catch up....

1080p

HDMI

Bigger HDD

Black console

Soon to be Bluray drive.

Geez, MS why not just name it the PS3 while your at it?

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

Forensic-Klown

1080p was on 360 before ps3

HDMI was just do it could fit the normal tv plugs, everything that uses HD has hdmi, not just ps3.

Bigger HDD, maybe thats just becasue of XboxOriginals and more demand for more space

You cant copy a colour, its just that they though it looked cool

We don't know for sure and maybe it's just because M$ want it to have HD movie playback so blu-ray is there only option.

Wiimote, well ps3 copied it of wii before 360 copied it off both

They are all changes made for a reason apart from let's just copy the ps3.

Yep after SONY bragged about it FIRST and indroduced it along side bluray even b4 the PS3 was released. before that it was 720p and sticking to there promises for the 360...LOL. Get informed.

Maybe you should read better, i didn't argue anything about SONY NOT copying, but MS was against what sony offered from the get go..but later added it.

M$ wasn't against any of them apart from blu-ray

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Seriously, MS can sure talk tuff for a company that rips of the PS3 and now the Wii. (if true)

"1080p isn't needed, Bluray isn't nessessary, 720p is the sweet spot...blah blah.

Now look at MS's playing catch up....

1080p

HDMI

Bigger HDD

Black console

Soon to be Bluray drive.

Geez, MS why not just name it the PS3 while your at it?

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

angelkimne

1080p was on 360 before ps3

HDMI was just do it could fit the normal tv plugs, everything that uses HD has hdmi, not just ps3.

Bigger HDD, maybe thats just becasue of XboxOriginals and more demand for more space

You cant copy a colour, its just that they though it looked cool

We don't know for sure and maybe it's just because M$ want it to have HD movie playback so blu-ray is there only option.

Wiimote, well ps3 copied it of wii before 360 copied it off both

They are all changes made for a reason apart from let's just copy the ps3.

Yep after SONY bragged about it FIRST and indroduced it along side bluray even b4 the PS3 was released. before that it was 720p and sticking to there promises for the 360...LOL. Get informed.

Maybe you should read better, i didn't argue anything about SONY NOT copying, but MS was against what sony offered from the get go..but later added it.

Wow, that's one thing, 1080p, and we don't even know if M$ was planning before ps3.

MS was so confident with what 360 had become and downplayed on Sonys OVER THE TOP features at the time...but now how many SKU's are on for the 360 with all those features they critisized at some point?

thats what i'm saying.

Its different to copy and use it due to it being better, but its another thing to rag on it and then adopt it...etc.

So SONY invented Hard disks, 1080p and the color black? :|

Your thread would of had more substance if you just left it at the whole motion controller thing, but those so- called SONY rip offs are ridiculous.

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Seriously, MS can sure talk tuff for a company that rips of the PS3 and now the Wii. (if true)

"1080p isn't needed, Bluray isn't nessessary, 720p is the sweet spot...blah blah.

Now look at MS's playing catch up....

1080p

HDMI

Bigger HDD

Black console

Soon to be Bluray drive.

Geez, MS why not just name it the PS3 while your at it?

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

angelkimne

1080p was on 360 before ps3

HDMI was just do it could fit the normal tv plugs, everything that uses HD has hdmi, not just ps3.

Bigger HDD, maybe thats just becasue of XboxOriginals and more demand for more space

You cant copy a colour, its just that they though it looked cool

We don't know for sure and maybe it's just because M$ want it to have HD movie playback so blu-ray is there only option.

Wiimote, well ps3 copied it of wii before 360 copied it off both

They are all changes made for a reason apart from let's just copy the ps3.

Yep after SONY bragged about it FIRST and indroduced it along side bluray even b4 the PS3 was released. before that it was 720p and sticking to there promises for the 360...LOL. Get informed.

Maybe you should read better, i didn't argue anything about SONY NOT copying, but MS was against what sony offered from the get go..but later added it.

M$ wasn't against any of them apart from blu-ray

720p was apparently the sweet spot for them REMEMBER THAT?

1080p isn't needed for this generation a MS employee said:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3152866

After sony added a bigger HDD, MS made an even bigger one.

I'm just playing it how the Lemz did.

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

[QUOTE="Tylendal"]I'm just remembering how much hue and cry there was in the forums about the SIXAXIS and the "Copystation 3". Now Microsoft is bringing this out, and it's all *Yawn*.levi895

Tell me about it...its even worse when MS was against most of it. Didn't MS say the Wii was gimmicky at some point?

LOL.

No I remember Microsoft being very much in support of the Wii, and called Sixaxis gimmicky.

You are not remembering right... I had to do a little searching, but here is what I found...

Here is what Peter Moore said: " Moore: In a lot of instances, it will be a No. 2 box because it's priced accordingly. The fear I would have is that people will buy the box and only play a few games. I think you'll pull it out at parties. It's fun for a few minutes, but I'm not sure (how long that will last)." Sounds like he is calling Wii a gimmick to me. And not very favorable.

Link:http://www.news.com/Building-an-empire%2C-an-Xbox-at-a-time---page-2/2008-1043_3-6117518-2.html

Here is what Bill Gates said: "Bill Gates just after the company's E3 press conference, where he expressed doubts that the features in his competitor's consoles were anything more than a gimmick. There's room for innovation here, but moving that controller around -- it's something that's not mainstream for most games"

Link:http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3151063

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Seriously, MS can sure talk tuff for a company that rips of the PS3 and now the Wii. (if true)

"1080p isn't needed, Bluray isn't nessessary, 720p is the sweet spot...blah blah.

Now look at MS's playing catch up....

1080p

HDMI

Bigger HDD

Black console

Soon to be Bluray drive.

Geez, MS why not just name it the PS3 while your at it?

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

Forensic-Klown

1080p was on 360 before ps3

HDMI was just do it could fit the normal tv plugs, everything that uses HD has hdmi, not just ps3.

Bigger HDD, maybe thats just becasue of XboxOriginals and more demand for more space

You cant copy a colour, its just that they though it looked cool

We don't know for sure and maybe it's just because M$ want it to have HD movie playback so blu-ray is there only option.

Wiimote, well ps3 copied it of wii before 360 copied it off both

They are all changes made for a reason apart from let's just copy the ps3.

Yep after SONY bragged about it FIRST and indroduced it along side bluray even b4 the PS3 was released. before that it was 720p and sticking to there promises for the 360...LOL. Get informed.

Maybe you should read better, i didn't argue anything about SONY NOT copying, but MS was against what sony offered from the get go..but later added it.

M$ wasn't against any of them apart from blu-ray

720p was apparently the sweet spot for them REMEMBER THAT?

1080p isn't needed for this generation a MS employee said:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3152866

After sony added a bigger HDD, MS made an even bigger one.

I'm just playing it how the Lemz did.

I can't even be bothered to argue with you, alll this is just good for the lemz anyway. Your basically saying everything ps3 has 360 has aswell.

Ok MS taking the idea of motion control from both Sony and Nintendo (I can admit that) but personally I think motion control is lame, but hey if it helps sell more games/consoles then whatever.

Second. PS3 had 1080p first, its just that only a handful actually support it, unlike their claim that all games would be true 1080p. MS retaliated by saying their 360 could do 1080p all along and having it unlocked through a update.

Third. MS did not copy Sony with HDMI, they added HDMI because users wanted it.

Fourth. MS going Blu-ray is pretty much their only option if they want users to be able to play HI-DEF content through their 360. However, the reason MS went HD-DVD in the first place is because at the time it not only had more features but it had a lower price point (you cant argue that fact cows). Had 360 come out with HD-DVD built in the format war would still be strong today, but Sony grabbed the advantage since they offered blu-ray in PS3 (a smart move, but unfortunate for those with shallow wallets.)

[QUOTE="levi895"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

[QUOTE="Tylendal"]I'm just remembering how much hue and cry there was in the forums about the SIXAXIS and the "Copystation 3". Now Microsoft is bringing this out, and it's all *Yawn*.EmperorSupreme

Tell me about it...its even worse when MS was against most of it. Didn't MS say the Wii was gimmicky at some point?

LOL.

No I remember Microsoft being very much in support of the Wii, and called Sixaxis gimmicky.

You are not remembering right... I had to do a little searching, but here is what I found...

Here is what Peter Moore said: " Moore: In a lot of instances, it will be a No. 2 box because it's priced accordingly. The fear I would have is that people will buy the box and only play a few games. I think you'll pull it out at parties. It's fun for a few minutes, but I'm not sure (how long that will last)." Sounds like he is calling Wii a gimmick to me. And not very favorable.

Link:http://www.news.com/Building-an-empire%2C-an-Xbox-at-a-time---page-2/2008-1043_3-6117518-2.html

Here is what Bill Gates said: "Bill Gates just after the company's E3 press conference, where he expressed doubts that the features in his competitor's consoles were anything more than a gimmick. There's room for innovation here, but moving that controller around -- it's something that's not mainstream for most games"

Link:http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3151063

Good deal, can't be right all the time lol. But they may have thought it was gimmicky but hey opinions change and I'm sure that seeing how many people have embraced the Wii microsoft has learned that, yes there is something to the motion controlls.

Now only if sony could copy microsoft and make PSN better...see copy catting isn't always a bad thing.

Good deal, can't be right all the time lol. But they may have thought it was gimmicky but hey opinions change and I'm sure that seeing how many people have embraced the Wii microsoft has learned that, yes there is something to the motion controlls.

Now only if sony could copy microsoft and make PSN better...see copy catting isn't always a bad thing.

levi895

10-4 on that.. Especially if they improve it... As a consumer I'm more interested on how they might improve it or implement than I am if they copied it or not.

[QUOTE="Kirlok"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

WOW so quiet in here....:)

Forensic-Klown

you do realize that all this 'rip-off' is actually a good thing for us 360 owners right?

getting the best of the other consoles to the 360, i really dont give a **** if microsoft is a rip-off company, but whatever makes you sleep at night

Good 4 you, but try and control your X-soldiers...they were the ones crying constantly over Sony and ripping ideas. This is even Worse since MS argued against what there competitors did, but later jumped ship.

oh yeah this is awsome and everything but you must be a hardcore fanboy to care for this ****, all i care for is that im getting bluray and i dont need a ps3. :)

[QUOTE="levi895"]

Good deal, can't be right all the time lol. But they may have thought it was gimmicky but hey opinions change and I'm sure that seeing how many people have embraced the Wii microsoft has learned that, yes there is something to the motion controlls.

Now only if sony could copy microsoft and make PSN better...see copy catting isn't always a bad thing.

EmperorSupreme

10-4 on that.. Especially if they improve it... As a consumer I'm more interested on how they might improve it or implement than I am if they copied it or not.

Yeah I'm not asking for a carbon copy, but ingame invites, private chats, an integrated friendlist while playing a game I mean come on!...but I do love my Warhawk.

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Seriously, MS can sure talk tuff for a company that rips of the PS3 and now the Wii. (if true)

"1080p isn't needed, Bluray isn't nessessary, 720p is the sweet spot...blah blah.

Now look at MS's playing catch up....

1080p

HDMI

Bigger HDD

Black console

Soon to be Bluray drive.

Geez, MS why not just name it the PS3 while your at it?

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

Forensic-Klown

1080p was on 360 before ps3

HDMI was just do it could fit the normal tv plugs, everything that uses HD has hdmi, not just ps3.

Bigger HDD, maybe thats just becasue of XboxOriginals and more demand for more space

You cant copy a colour, its just that they though it looked cool

We don't know for sure and maybe it's just because M$ want it to have HD movie playback so blu-ray is there only option.

Wiimote, well ps3 copied it of wii before 360 copied it off both

They are all changes made for a reason apart from let's just copy the ps3.

MS was so confident with what 360 had become and downplayed on Sonys OVER THE TOP features at the time...but now how many SKU's are on for the 360 with all those features they critisized at some point?

thats what i'm saying.

Its different to copy and use it due to it being better, but its another thing to rag on it and then adopt it...etc.

sony bashed microsoft for releasing more than one SKU...funny how that turned out for them huh? you act like sony has never done this before

720 is the sweet spot o.o

how many decent games do you see running above 720 on consoles?

MS is smart.

Instead of going for the gold, they hold back and see what the people like, then add it to their products.

Sony
Net income: $1.071 billion USD (2007)

Microsoft
Net income: $14.06 billion USD (2007)

I think MS knows what they are doing.

ScootyPuff

thats not smart. It shows lack of imagination/innovation. Ever wonder why know one likes MS?

It's kind've ridiculous of MS to come out with such a thing after calling motion controls a gimmick so many times.

I can forgive them though, I am more interested in how they implement it. I think Sony took the right path building motion controls into a fully functioning controller. I'll be interested to see what MS does with it.

EmperorSupreme

Every, EVERY, single time I see you post you're either bashing Microsoft or defending Sony. It's quite amusing to see actually, go on.

Seriously, MS can sure talk tuff for a company that rips of the PS3 and now the Wii. (if true)

"1080p isn't needed, Bluray isn't nessessary, 720p is the sweet spot...blah blah. only necessary for movies, no games are programmed in 1080p, all games on both the 360 and ps3 are programmed in 720p. so until games are programmed in 1080p, then it will be necessary. only 1 game so far uses 1080p that isnt upscaled. thats rez on the ps3. a downloadable game. basically its about as necessary as a 1080p tv with a wii hooked up to it. (wii doesnt support 1080p either)

Now look at MS's playing catch up....(kinda like sony and nintendo with the online aspect of their consoles, playing catch up to live?)

1080p (only used for movies atm, only 1 game that is actually out right now supports 1080p (rez hd i think on the sony network) without having to upscale)

HDMI (i cant say much about this other than most tvs didnt support this when the 360 was released and the wii doesnt offer it at all)

Bigger HDD (lets see, 1. wii uses a freaking camera memory stick as a save device....WTF?, 2. sony uses your hard drive space to install games because the blu ray is so slow, and holds so much data. 3. HDDs always get bigger, and there is a ps3 model with the same size hard drive of the old hard drives on the 360.)

Black console REALLY? but REALLY? the first black console was a colecovision, then master system, genesis, sega cd, 32x saturn, neo geo, turbo grafix 16, and XBOX....so its kinda funny you said this one.

Soon to be Bluray drive. Only place you will hear this is on message boards....all rumors. microsoft has officially said it has no plans for blu ray..... maybe because they are focusing more on HD downloads (always have focused on this more than HD DVD) unlike sony, who forces its loyal fanboys to buy blu ray when they purchase a ps3, with the only advantage to blu ray is more space which doesnt make better games only makes it unnecessary to change discs.

Geez, MS why not just name it the PS3 while your at it? Because microsoft actually wants to sell systems and games.

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

Forensic-Klown

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Seriously, MS can sure talk tuff for a company that rips of the PS3 and now the Wii. (if true)

"1080p isn't needed, Bluray isn't nessessary, 720p is the sweet spot...blah blah.

Now look at MS's playing catch up....

1080p

HDMI

Bigger HDD

Black console

Soon to be Bluray drive.

Geez, MS why not just name it the PS3 while your at it?

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

Forensic-Klown

1080p was on 360 before ps3

HDMI was just do it could fit the normal tv plugs, everything that uses HD has hdmi, not just ps3.

Bigger HDD, maybe thats just becasue of XboxOriginals and more demand for more space

You cant copy a colour, its just that they though it looked cool

We don't know for sure and maybe it's just because M$ want it to have HD movie playback so blu-ray is there only option.

Wiimote, well ps3 copied it of wii before 360 copied it off both

They are all changes made for a reason apart from let's just copy the ps3.

Yep after SONY bragged about it FIRST and indroduced it along side bluray even b4 the PS3 was released. before that it was 720p and sticking to there promises for the 360...LOL. Get informed.

Maybe you should read better, i didn't argue anything about SONY NOT copying, but MS was against what sony offered from the get go..but later added it.

All MS have done is adapt the 360 as new tech has become more popular. There was no need for 1080P, not many TV's supported it - if any - at release. Blu-ray won't be used for games, but it won the format wars, so MS have to cater for those who buy games consoles to watch movies :?

Sony copied MS and themselves with the colour Black, the Xbox was black and so was the PS2 :|

Seriously, MS can sure talk tuff for a company that rips of the PS3 and now the Wii. (if true)

"1080p isn't needed, Bluray isn't nessessary, 720p is the sweet spot...blah blah.

Now look at MS's playing catch up....

1080p

HDMI

Bigger HDD

Black console

Soon to be Bluray drive.

Geez, MS why not just name it the PS3 while your at it?

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

Forensic-Klown

1080p - not necessarilly for games. most games output to 720p. prolly support for the emergin HD

HDMI - users demand for the emergin HD era

Biiger HDD - users demand plus MS was expanding Live with downloadable movies and shows

Black console? - dude it's just color

bluray drive - Bluray won, so that's the standard format. What if HD-DVD won, Sony would of switch to the new standard anyway

Wiimote Knockoff? - that's so awsome...I want one

Everyone in this Business Copys someone so stop Hatin!!

I'm a Wii owner and love it in combination with my PC, but I must admit that I'm growing to enjoy the Xbox controller for FPS. Mostly, it's because the Wii lacks a great FPS but I love the function the Wiimote does have. Plus, I've got to give Nintendo a lot of respect for full committing to a new control scheme.

When it comes down to it, most people will play games on the controllers it came with. A light gun, Fit pad, power glove, racing wheel all might be optional, but for a controller to be embraced, it has to be included. For Nintendo to actually adopt a fancy lightgun with motion controls as their controller is really an "all-in" manuever, and I applaud them for it. Even still, I look to get a secondary next-gen system in the near future, once I get an HDTV.

To be honost, 720p is the sweetspot for gaming due to a lot more can be added to save quality within the game. Why else are games this generation below 720p?

Again, Blu-Ray is not needed and will not be needed this generation; it only causes a pain for developers.

HDMI is also, not needed, Composite A/V is perfectly fine.

The Xbox 360 "Wii" Mote thing will only come with Banjo, which will be instant win for Banjo.

It's called "Variation", businesses do this to make a "better" product.

Seriously, MS can sure talk tuff for a company that rips of the PS3 and now the Wii. (if true)

"1080p isn't needed, Bluray isn't nessessary, 720p is the sweet spot...blah blah.

Now look at MS's playing catch up....

1080p

HDMI

Bigger HDD

Black console

Soon to be Bluray drive.

Geez, MS why not just name it the PS3 while your at it?

Now, MS Might have plans to release a Wiimote knockoff?:lol:

Makes you think of the past and how Windows became. *face Palm*

BTW, b4 you give the BU BU teh everyonz copyz....MS was against most of what Sony offered in the beginning. I don't deny Sony copies and nintendo too, but atleast admit MS when somethings good.

Forensic-Klown

1080P - As far as I know, 360 has always been able to do this.

"1080p isn't needed, Bluray isn't nessessary, 720p is the sweet spot...blah blah." All of these things are true (for gaming). Blu-ray isn't necessary for gaming. How many 1080P games are out right now? Most of the PS3 games can't even hit 720P.

HDMI - Wasn't finalized spec yet when 360 launched. Glad they didn't wait a year for it. Again, it is not needed for gaming. anyways.

Bigger HDD - Did anyone really thing the hard drive sizes wouldn't increase as time went by. Nothing to do with Sony console.

Black console - LOL. Weak man. Weak. I guess Wii copied the 360 white console? What color was xbox?

Soon to be Bluray drive - I doubt it. I don't think it will be cost effective for Microsoft to sell this. Either way, it has nothing to do with gaming. I would be an add on for movies. Nothing more.

Wiimote knockoff - This is the only valid point of your entire post. They were knocking it and now are going to add it themselves. Kind of reminds me of some company from Japan saying rumble wasn't necessary, but now...