Lol so apparently my bro Fumito Ueda is a bit sexist... (TLG INFO!)

because it's not easy for girls to make acrobatic movements -- I think it's unrealistic.Blabadon

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Too long to read but I understand the whole concept. All I have to say is.... welcome to modern day gaming.

im not reading that... summarize.. NOW!campzor

[QUOTE="campzor"]im not reading that... summarize.. NOW!Cherokee_Jack

1. well..compared to men... they are extremely weak

2. No, they are , dunno where he got that from

3. What? he really said that lol, guess i must be one O:

You guys should really read it, some of it is kind of funny :lol:

He could be sexist, orit could also be a cultural reason maybe? If you're western you're used to seeing women like that since it's been done, but maybe Fumito Ueda grew up like that. I can't believe some of the stuff he said that :lol: he's worried gamers would look up the character's skirt...what the heck? (though I'm sure some people would really try to do that) especially if the character is a young girl. Butthey should've had two similar character models and let the character chooseto beeither a girl or a boy.

There can be some; but since it is not very usual under the public perception, the game would need a reasonable back story to why that is possible, in which case it may deviate the plot and the emotional centre from the original way Fumito intended.funsohng

[QUOTE="Blabadon"]because it's not easy for girls to make acrobatic movements -- I think it's unrealistic.Cherokee_Jack

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[QUOTE="funsohng"]There can be some; but since it is not very usual under the public perception, the game would need a reasonable back story to why that is possible, in which case it may deviate the plot and the emotional centre from the original way Fumito intended.Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="Blabadon"]because it's not easy for girls to make acrobatic movements -- I think it's unrealistic.Cherokee_Jack

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That is just an horrible translation. He said that like a year ago and what he said was that boys have stronger "grip" than girls...

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="funsohng"]There can be some; but since it is not very usual under the public perception, the game would need a reasonable back story to why that is possible, in which case it may deviate the plot and the emotional centre from the original way Fumito intended.funsohng

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[QUOTE="Blabadon"]because it's not easy for girls to make acrobatic movements -- I think it's unrealistic.Gue1

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That is just an horrible translation. He said that like a year ago and what he said was that boys have stronger "grip" than girls...

Its purely because of the Asian frame of mind. My girlfriend is Korean and im Irish. It can be hard for us western people to get our heads around such things. Its just the frame of mind for Asian men. I found it very hard to understand some of those ways of thinking when I started going out with her. Over there girls are considered very weak because the men have to appear strong and dependent. The men suffer low self esteem sometimes and inadequate if their manhood is threatened. They sure didn't like seeing me walk around Seoul with my girlfriend. Also its westerners like you who are baffled by the mentality that will be the very ones to ruin it. Their culture is so much more rich than anyone's and I would never ever disrupt my girlfriends way of thinking or try to force western culture upon her. This sudden surge of intrusion into their culture and way of living over the past few years is destroying what makes them such a great country in the first place. Sure it seems unreasonable that a woman should do such things but to them its completely normal and the women have no trouble with it. Its not sexist even in the slightest. They have fantastic manners. They would also think it was extremely odd if your kids told you what to do or didn't have respect for you, or if some young person called an older person by their first name. Like you said it was just a passing comment by Fumito so I don't know why you are getting hung up on it and creating such a huge pointless thread about it.

Its purely because of the Asian frame of mind. My girlfriend is Korean and im Irish. It can be hard for us western people to get our heads around such things. Its just the frame of mind for Asian men. I found it very hard to understand some of those ways of thinking when I started going out with her. Over there girls are considered very weak because the men have to appear strong and dependent. The men suffer low self esteem sometimes and inadequate if their manhood is threatened. They sure didn't like seeing me walk around Seoul with my girlfriend

seanmcloughlin

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Its purely because of the Asian frame of mind. My girlfriend is Korean and im Irish. It can be hard for us western people to get our heads around such things. Its just the frame of mind for Asian men. I found it very hard to understand some of those ways of thinking when I started going out with her. Over there girls are considered very weak because the men have to appear strong and dependent. The men suffer low self esteem sometimes and inadequate if their manhood is threatened. They sure didn't like seeing me walk around Seoul with my girlfriend

funsohng

of course its not entirely true, im merely stating the fact that its in his culture to make such comments. Its a bit much to call him sexist over it

I am female and I can understand what he is talking about. All you have to do is watch Ninja Warrior and see how badly the japanese female population does at things like the steps or climbing something or holding onto something as it is falling I don't think I have ever seen a single one pass the first stage. Not saying that there isn't strong females out there in japan just saying that it is more rare then here. To us western gamers it may seem off but their culture is very different from ours. We say zomg he is sexist for saying weird things and not putting a female lead in his games, but look at western games. Most of our western games never have female leads, gears of war, halo, ghost recon, uncharted, rachet and clank, god of war, mag. For some reason western gamers would rather have male leads that all look like they are shooting steroids daily. I personally love games that have female leads, tomb raider, perfect dark, final fantasy 13, but to the japanese it is not a big deal to them. Saying someone might be sexist just because you don't know the culture, or know if the translator was even translating correctly is meh. I personally love all his games and the companionships that you build throughout I could care less who I play as :)

I am female and I can understand what he is talking about. All you have to do is watch Ninja Warrior and see how badly the japanese female population does at things like the steps or climbing something or holding onto something as it is falling I don't think I have ever seen a single one pass the first stage. Not saying that there isn't strong females out there in japan just saying that it is more rare then here. To us western gamers it may seem off but their culture is very different from ours. We say zomg he is sexist for saying weird things and not putting a female lead in his games, but look at western games. Most of our western games never have female leads, gears of war, halo, ghost recon, uncharted, rachet and clank, god of war, mag. For some reason western gamers would rather have male leads that all look like they are shooting steroids daily. I personally love games that have female leads, tomb raider, perfect dark, final fantasy 13, but to the japanese it is not a big deal to them. Saying someone might be sexist just because you don't know the culture, or know if the translator was even translating correctly is meh. I personally love all his games and the companionships that you build throughout I could care less who I play as :)

Kimikat86

I also forgot to mention that too about how our games all have male leads. They are trying to break the mould now with females in gears etc. but its mostly males. Its a lot easier to see a guy kill another guy or watch a guy be killed but its heart wrenching to watch a woman be killed. Men fight in the trenches for a reason.

I also forgot to mention that too about how our games all have male leads. They are trying to break the mould now with females in gears etc. but its mostly males. Its a lot easier to see a guy kill another guy or watch a guy be killed but its heart wrenching to watch a woman be killed. Men fight in the trenches for a reason.

seanmcloughlin

Also I was thinking, even though I know people will have their own opinions on this but honestly, if I was to say go on an adventure it would even seem weird to me if I was the one going out to rescue my boyfriend. For example if the tables were turned in say Shadow of the Colossus, to me it would have been weird not saying that it is improbable but if the lead characters Girlfriend had to go through and kill all the colossi to save the male lead it would just seem awkward. To me I personally love strong men (not steroid induced weirdo's like in gears) but someone that if I was ever in trouble could help me, most situations I wouldn't be able to do the same things. In Japan like it was stated earlier the men are suppose to be strong and be able to "protect" if not they are imasculated. Just how that culture is.

Team Ico's games are heavily built around character emotions, and changing the genger of a character would require a whole script rewrite to stay up to Fumito's standards. That's a good thing, doesn't make him sexist, the part about girls having harder time crossing the world was almost certainly misquoted.

[QUOTE="campzor"]im not reading that... summarize.. NOW!Cherokee_Jack

Actually since they want to play exclusivly with little boys that would make them a pederast.... just saying

It's not really that sexist when you actually sit down and think about it. Men are BIOLOGICALLY stronger than women. It's a fact of life, and in addition, I doubt that many people would want to play as a girl. This interviewer is pretty naive. He says that it keeps troubling him that Ueda doesn't have a real reason. Ueda is just trying to come up with a reason, and he came up with the whole girls are weaker thing.

Think about it. How many games have a woman as the protagonist? Not very many. Should we start asking these types of questions to devs like IW and Bungie just because the protagonists in those games aren't women? No. In society, men are usually seen as more adventurous and powerful, and this is because if you actually look around, it's true.

So stop with the "OMG Futimo is teh sexist", because he may be a bit sexist, but so is pretty much everybody in today's world. And it's not wrongto think that men are stronger than women (in general), because, well, they scientifically are.

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I also forgot to mention that too about how our games all have male leads. They are trying to break the mould now with females in gears etc. but its mostly males. Its a lot easier to see a guy kill another guy or watch a guy be killed but its heart wrenching to watch a woman be killed. Men fight in the trenches for a reason.

Kimikat86

Also I was thinking, even though I know people will have their own opinions on this but honestly, if I was to say go on an adventure it would even seem weird to me if I was the one going out to rescue my boyfriend. For example if the tables were turned in say Shadow of the Colossus, to me it would have been weird not saying that it is improbable but if the lead characters Girlfriend had to go through and kill all the colossi to save the male lead it would just seem awkward. To me I personally love strong men (not steroid induced weirdo's like in gears) but someone that if I was ever in trouble could help me, most situations I wouldn't be able to do the same things. In Japan like it was stated earlier the men are suppose to be strong and be able to "protect" if not they are imasculated. Just how that culture is.

tl;dr but based on the title I'm gonna say this:

I was cool with female characters... until I played RE5. That mofo game killed a lot of things for me and made me a bit sexist too. :x

im not reading that... summarize.. NOW!campzor