:lol: sony :lol:

sony blaming devs that ps3 games look worse than 360 games and say it will be 4-5 years till the full power is used.

"Technically, Playstation 3 is more powerful machine than Xbox 360, but we have seen several cross platform games performing noticeably better on Xbox 360 than PS3.

Kaz Hirai, Sony Computer Entertainment's president, addressed this point in the latest issue of Official PlayStation Magazine. "If you look back at the commentary we received when we launched PS2, there was a lot of talk to the effect that 'It's very difficult to program for' and 'It's easier on a Dreamcast'. It's happened before", Hirai told the magazine. "If they came back and told me, 'PS3? We can do this in a heartbeat,' that would be worrying because what it is telling me is that we're not pushing the envelope from a technology standpoint."

Hirai finally concluded that "the power that we've packed into PS3 will really manifest itself in software titles that come up four, five or six years down the line." "

http://megagames.com/news/html/console/sonyfiveyearsneededtomanifestps3struepower.shtml

4-5 Years how about A few months ?

MGS4

KILLZONE2

Socom Confrontation....

Of course, it's Sony's fault. I mean, they are the ones that develop the games, not the developers.Albanian_Killa

I know right? Its not Sony's fault they aren't paying devs to make better games.

4-5 Years how about A few months ?

MGS4

KILLZONE2

Socom Confrontation....

AgentA-Mi6

Damn right! I'm glad someone actually mentions SOCOM around here! Best online game ever (for me at least).

On the contrary, the Darkness looks much better on PS3. The 360 version looks grainy as hell--Especially when it tries to incorporate the motion blur.
Pariah_001

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]Of course, it's Sony's fault. I mean, they are the ones that develop the games, not the developers.Cedmln

I know right? Its not Sony's fault they aren't paying devs to make better games.

Sony's only job is to support their first-party developers and they are doing that. The first-party developers are making games really well (although Lair sucks, the production value was high. Same with Heavenly Sword but it hasn't flopped yet). It's the publisher's job to support the developers. So, for example, HAZE is supported by Ubisoft, not Sony.

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

4-5 Years how about A few months ?

MGS4

KILLZONE2

Socom Confrontation....

Albanian_Killa

Damn right! I'm glad someone actually mentions SOCOM around here! Best online game ever (for me at least).

:wink: only on Ps3 :wink:

[QUOTE="Pariah_001"]On the contrary, the Darkness looks much better on PS3. The 360 version looks grainy as hell--Especially when it tries to incorporate the motion blur.
bluebrad1974

Funny you mention that. All the posts I've seen from you have been fanboy posts. You're a true 100% MS fanboy. Don't deny it.

Nah, your fanboy goggles are just dirty.bluebrad1974

Nope. The 360 vertex shaders were very unresponsive in the Darkness. Everything came out with a gray mask. At the very least everyone looked like they had a skin-condition.

Nah, your fanboy goggles are just dirty.bluebrad1974

Oh the irony.

Well it's kind of true to be honest. Although it's still stupid of Sony, they spent so much money making a hard to develop for machine, and now are getting all this bad press because their multi plats look worse. But technically, the PS3 has superior hardware, but who cares if the games look worse...Vyyral

This is just them telling everyone that once they get done establishing Blu-Ray they'll get around to the games. And they may even get around to buying some exclusives and developing tools like XNA for the PS3. Who knows. Right now it's multimedia first, games second for Sony. TekkenMaster606

X ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!

This is just them telling everyone that once they get done establishing Blu-Ray they'll get around to the games. And they may even get around to buying some exclusives and developing tools like XNA for the PS3. Who knows. Right now it's multimedia first, games second for Sony. TekkenMaster606

You are of course aware that they are the fourth largest publisher by investment? Also EDGE tools are a good equivalent of XNA on PS3 and they were rolled out to developers a few months back now. What those developers do with them is beyond Sony's controls.

Also considering that Sony had the most new game announcements of any company this past E3..but NAH multimedia first, games second. :|

This is just them telling everyone that once they get done establishing Blu-Ray they'll get around to the games. And they may even get around to buying some exclusives and developing tools like XNA for the PS3. Who knows. Right now it's multimedia first, games second for Sony. TekkenMaster606

Where do you get that? Blu-Ray is already showing to be working into creating a true High-Def experience with games. At the same time they make games, they also develop multimedia services. Is that so bad? There are tons of games coming to the PlayStation 3 that already show potential so I don't see how Sony is multimedia first, games second. Hell, Kaz Hirai said they're all about the games.

PSN is already showing to giving us many demos (2-3 a week), many add-ons (Ninja Gaiden and MotorStorm packs just arrived), and games (great online library already).

I don't know where people get the idea Sony doesn't give a crap about games. That statement would've been true before E3, but now, it's not true anymore.

4-5 Years how about A few months ?

MGS4

KILLZONE2

Socom Confrontation....

AgentA-Mi6

killzone 2 is mediocre and socom is online only mgs 4 will cm to 360 a year later ur post fails

1rst year...and the PS3 is already showing better graphics then the 360...I own a 360 and it was a letdown...If this isnt the best that the ps3 has to offer then ps3 owners must be excited...also FIVE TO SIX YEARA!!!! thats alot of gaming time, and better then the four years M$ is planning to dump the 360mgreener_34

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

4-5 Years how about A few months ?

MGS4

KILLZONE2

Socom Confrontation....

manny280

killzone 2 is mediocre and socom is online only mgs 4 will cm to 360 a year later ur post fails

Killzone 2 is mediocre? Have you played it. Right now, it's looking amazing. Like Geniuine said, "Your fanboy goggles are on". MGS4 to 360? Denial talking. Quote me on that. Enough with your desperate attempts. SOCOM is online only? Of course. Name one person that bought previous SOCOMs for offline. That would be a surprise. This game is built for online.

Like you said his post failed, I say your post fails. Fanboy.

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

manny280

killzone 2 is mediocre and socom is online only mgs 4 will cm to 360 a year later ur post fails

Welcome. I see you are well associated with your inner fanboy. Good luck in the wonderful world of System Wars! :D

[QUOTE="mgreener_34"]1rst year...and the PS3 is already showing better graphics then the 360...I own a 360 and it was a letdown...If this isnt the best that the ps3 has to offer then ps3 owners must be excited...also FIVE TO SIX YEARA!!!! thats alot of gaming time, and better then the four years M$ is planning to dump the 360bluebrad1974

All of those new announcements and promises of what's up and coming don't really mean much when what's currently going on is downright terrible. Oh, and not to mention the fact that earlier this year we were 'waiting' for Lair, Heavenly Sword and everything else. Already Madden is proven better on the Xbox 360. Games are coming out first on the Xbox 360. Oh, and did I forget to mention 4.5? TekkenMaster606

Madden? What are you, living the past. PES2008 and FIFA 08 are more lifelike on the PS3 and run at the same FPS (60). Every EA Sports game from now on will have the same FPS on both consoles. Madden was the last game. 2 Maddens on the 360 ran at 30 FPS and that's how it will be on the PS3. The next Madden will run 60FPS on both consoles.Hell, CoD4 looks the same on both consoles.

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]This is just them telling everyone that once they get done establishing Blu-Ray they'll get around to the games. And they may even get around to buying some exclusives and developing tools like XNA for the PS3. Who knows. Right now it's multimedia first, games second for Sony. Albanian_Killa

Where do you get that? Blu-Ray is already showing to be working into creating a true High-Def experience with games. At the same time they make games, they also develop multimedia services. Is that so bad? There are tons of games coming to the PlayStation 3 that already show potential so I don't see how Sony is multimedia first, games second. Hell, Kaz Hirai said they're all about the games.

PSN is already showing to giving us many demos (2-3 a week), many add-ons (Ninja Gaiden and MotorStorm packs just arrived), and games (great online library already).

I don't know where people get the idea Sony doesn't give a crap about games. That statement would've been true before E3, but now, it's not true anymore.

4-5 Years how about A few months ?

MGS4

KILLZONE2

Socom Confrontation....

AgentA-Mi6

but hes right, itll only get better, trust me kz2 and mgs4 are not the max the ps3 is gonna put out :shock:

Sony - We're pushing the envelope so far with our complicated technology that we're pushing developers to work harder by making everything else the lead platform. And then a followup inferior multiplatform.

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]This is just them telling everyone that once they get done establishing Blu-Ray they'll get around to the games. And they may even get around to buying some exclusives and developing tools like XNA for the PS3. Who knows. Right now it's multimedia first, games second for Sony. bluebrad1974

Where do you get that? Blu-Ray is already showing to be working into creating a true High-Def experience with games. At the same time they make games, they also develop multimedia services. Is that so bad? There are tons of games coming to the PlayStation 3 that already show potential so I don't see how Sony is multimedia first, games second. Hell, Kaz Hirai said they're all about the games.

PSN is already showing to giving us many demos (2-3 a week), many add-ons (Ninja Gaiden and MotorStorm packs just arrived), and games (great online library already).

I don't know where people get the idea Sony doesn't give a crap about games. That statement would've been true before E3, but now, it's not true anymore.

I actually learned not to believe anything that comes from you since I know you're a pure fanboy and I don't trust pure fanboys. I don't bash the 360, I defend the PS3 from fanboy crap.

Sony - We're pushing the envelope so far with our complicated technology that we're pushing developers to work harder by making everything else the lead platform. And then a followup inferior multiplatform.

TekkenMaster606

They're pushing them to make the lead platform the PS3. Obviously it hasn't happened yet. Nice reading.

sony blaming devs that ps3 games look worse than 360 games and say it will be 4-5 years till the full power is used.

"Technically, Playstation 3 is more powerful machine than Xbox 360, but we have seen several cross platform games performing noticeably better on Xbox 360 than PS3.

Kaz Hirai, Sony Computer Entertainment's president, addressed this point in the latest issue of Official PlayStation Magazine. "If you look back at the commentary we received when we launched PS2, there was a lot of talk to the effect that 'It's very difficult to program for' and 'It's easier on a Dreamcast'. It's happened before", Hirai told the magazine. "If they came back and told me, 'PS3? We can do this in a heartbeat,' that would be worrying because what it is telling me is that we're not pushing the envelope from a technology standpoint."

Hirai finally concluded that "the power that we've packed into PS3 will really manifest itself in software titles that come up four, five or six years down the line." "

http://megagames.com/news/html/console/sonyfiveyearsneededtomanifestps3struepower.shtml

imprezawrx500

Lol, what a mistake it was to use that hardware then, in 5 years time when the ps3 is performing at its best every one will have computers that make ps3 look like a joke, even more so then the pc does now. Basically the hardware you spend lots more money on will only be showing its best in about 5 years.

[QUOTE="manny280"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

4-5 Years how about A few months ?

MGS4

KILLZONE2

Socom Confrontation....

Albanian_Killa

killzone 2 is mediocre and socom is online only mgs 4 will cm to 360 a year later ur post fails

Killzone 2 is mediocre? Have you played it. Right now, it's looking amazing. Like Geniuine said, "Your fanboy goggles are on". MGS4 to 360? Denial talking. Quote me on that. Enough with your desperate attempts. SOCOM is online only? Of course. Name one person that bought previous SOCOMs for offline. That would be a surprise. This game is built for online.

Like you said his post failed, I say your post fails. Fanboy.

[QUOTE="manny280"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

Cedmln

killzone 2 is mediocre and socom is online only mgs 4 will cm to 360 a year later ur post fails

Welcome. I see you are well associated with your inner fanboy. Good luck in the wonderful world of System Wars! :D

is it not true that killzone 1 was mediocre with good graphics lair was and heavenlysword point is graphics dnt make the game and online only games cnt be what ure looking for for a AAA game dsnt matter what ppl but it for and by the way cows shud be hyping little big planet not those games lbp pwns 2008 (not including pc games) im not a fanboy by the way but i do hate the ps3 but i lk the other systems 360/pc getting wii soon for ssbb

The 360 controller is perfect in my opinion.

jackvegas21

Form is the best of the three I agree, but the face buttons and D-pad are disappointing to say the least.

You obviously don't know what other devices the Cell processor is used in. Blu-ray is the reason ps3 is on store shelves, and the Cell is stone cold undeniable proof.bluebrad1974

Like what? Its being used in what will be the world's fastest supercomputer, blade servers, and some medical equipment but its not being used in HDTVs or Blue-laser optical disc systems.

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]

sony blaming devs that ps3 games look worse than 360 games and say it will be 4-5 years till the full power is used.

"Technically, Playstation 3 is more powerful machine than Xbox 360, but we have seen several cross platform games performing noticeably better on Xbox 360 than PS3.

Kaz Hirai, Sony Computer Entertainment's president, addressed this point in the latest issue of Official PlayStation Magazine. "If you look back at the commentary we received when we launched PS2, there was a lot of talk to the effect that 'It's very difficult to program for' and 'It's easier on a Dreamcast'. It's happened before", Hirai told the magazine. "If they came back and told me, 'PS3? We can do this in a heartbeat,' that would be worrying because what it is telling me is that we're not pushing the envelope from a technology standpoint."

Hirai finally concluded that "the power that we've packed into PS3 will really manifest itself in software titles that come up four, five or six years down the line." "

http://megagames.com/news/html/console/sonyfiveyearsneededtomanifestps3struepower.shtml

michael098

Lol, what a mistake it was to use that hardware then, in 5 years time when the ps3 is performing at its best every one will have computers that make ps3 look like a joke, even more so then the pc does now. Basically the hardware you spend lots more money on will only be showing its best in about 5 years.

At least we have an assurance better graphics can come out. Better than Killzone 2. That means it will still be in competition after 5 years and graphics will still be on par. Better than upgrading every 2 years (PC) and paying $200 to upgrade in my opinion. A console in total also costs less and lasts about 8 years.

[QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="manny280"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

manny280

Welcome. I see you are well associated with your inner fanboy. Good luck in the wonderful world of System Wars! :D

is it not true that killzone 1 was mediocre with good graphics lair was and heavenlysword point is graphics dnt make the game and online only games cnt be what ure looking for for a AAA game dsnt matter what ppl but it for and by the way cows shud be hyping little big planet not those games lbp pwns 2008 (not including pc games) im not a fanboy by the way but i do hate the ps3 but i lk the other systems 360/pc getting wii soon for ssbb

Is it not true that your response has nothing to do with my post that was quoting your earlier one?

[QUOTE="manny280"][QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="manny280"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

Cedmln

Welcome. I see you are well associated with your inner fanboy. Good luck in the wonderful world of System Wars! :D

is it not true that killzone 1 was mediocre with good graphics lair was and heavenlysword point is graphics dnt make the game and online only games cnt be what ure looking for for a AAA game dsnt matter what ppl but it for and by the way cows shud be hyping little big planet not those games lbp pwns 2008 (not including pc games) im not a fanboy by the way but i do hate the ps3 but i lk the other systems 360/pc getting wii soon for ssbb

Is it not true that your response has nothing to do with my post that was quoting your earlier one?

it does cuz i stated why im not a fanboy if u wuld actually read it the other part was for smbdy else

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

Sony - We're pushing the envelope so far with our complicated technology that we're pushing developers to work harder by making everything else the lead platform. And then a followup inferior multiplatform.

Albanian_Killa

They're pushing them to make the lead platform the PS3. Obviously it hasn't happened yet. Nice reading.

[QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="manny280"][QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="manny280"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

manny280

Is it not true that your response has nothing to do with my post that was quoting your earlier one?

it does cuz i stated why im not a fanboy if u wuld actually read it the other part was for smbdy else

But i didn't call you a fanboy. I just said "I see you are well associated with your inner fanboy".

Thats all. Not saying you are one, just implying that the post was fanboish. Sorry for the mix up.

But i didn't call you a fanboy. I just said "I see you are well associated with your inner fanboy".

Thats all. Not saying you are one, just implying that the post was fanboish. Sorry for the mix up.

oh ok

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

4-5 Years how about A few months ?

MGS4

KILLZONE2

Socom Confrontation....

manny280

killzone 2 is mediocre and socom is online only mgs 4 will cm to 360 a year later ur post fails

[QUOTE="manny280"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

4-5 Years how about A few months ?

MGS4

KILLZONE2

Socom Confrontation....

deadmeat59

killzone 2 is mediocre and socom is online only mgs 4 will cm to 360 a year later ur post fails

well thse things are all true i was just j/k abt mgs 4 cows jeez

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

Sony - We're pushing the envelope so far with our complicated technology that we're pushing developers to work harder by making everything else the lead platform. And then a followup inferior multiplatform.

bluebrad1974

They're pushing them to make the lead platform the PS3. Obviously it hasn't happened yet. Nice reading.

Really? I don't see it. Hell, being able to achieve the graphics it took the 360 to get in a year during launch proves how much of a fanboy you are. Also, RROD shows how pathetic the hardware coordination is in the 360. Lousy fans not powerful enough for the CPU.

Like what? Its being used in what will be the world's fastest supercomputer, blade servers, and some medical equipment but its not being used in HDTVs or Blue-laser optical disc systems.

Runningflame570

I hate to break it to you, but the Cell is a video imaging device. It's being used in the ps3, Toshiba hdtv's, and is the video decoder for smart bombs, and MRI machines. Don't believe me, go look it up.bluebrad1974

Its not being used in Toshiba HDTVs, thats a myth.

[QUOTE="bluebrad1974"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

Sony - We're pushing the envelope so far with our complicated technology that we're pushing developers to work harder by making everything else the lead platform. And then a followup inferior multiplatform.

Albanian_Killa

They're pushing them to make the lead platform the PS3. Obviously it hasn't happened yet. Nice reading.

Really? I don't see it. Hell, being able to achieve the graphics it took the 360 to get in a year during launch proves how much of a fanboy you are. Also, RROD shows how pathetic the hardware coordination is in the 360. Lousy fans not powerful enough for the CPU.