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Argument 1 - Wii will have no good games - Visit_Full_Thread! (Fixed)

1st Party


NEWS

Nintendo's_1st_Party_Lineup_for_2007

Nintendo_Releases_Q-2_Wii_Lineup


Super Mario Galaxy - TBA 2007 (Rumor: October)


Pics
Videos
Preview

Fire Emblem: Godess of Dawn - TBA


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Videos
Preview
Official_Trailer

Pokemon Battle Revolution - June 25


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Videos
Preview

Disaster: Day of Crysis - TBA 2007


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Videos
Preview
Extended_Trailer!

Kirby - TBA 2007


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Proof_of_Wii_Release

Mario Party 8 - May 29


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Preview

Metroid Prime 3 - TBA 2007


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Videos
Preview

Big Brain Acadamy Wii - June 11


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Videos
Preview

Project H.A.M.M.E.R. - TBA 2007


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Preview

Battalion Wars 2 - TBA 2007


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More_Pics
Videos
Preview

DK Jet - June 28


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Hands_On_(Gamecube_Version)
New_Info
Super Mario Strikers - TBA 2007 (Summer)


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Preview

Super Smash Brothers: Brawl - TBA 2007


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Preview

Forever Blue - TBA 2007


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First_Details

Others:
  • Wii Music -(2007)

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Preview
New_Info

  • Wii Health Pack - (2007)

New_Info

  • Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games - (December 2007)

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3rd Party


Soul Calibur Legends - (TBA)

The image The image

First_Details


Dewy's Adventure - (TBA 2007)


Pics
Videos
First_Look

Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles (TBA 2007)


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videos
First_Details

Harvest Moon: Tree of Peace - (TBA 2007)


Pics
Videos
Preview

No More Heroes - (TBA 2007)


Pics
Videos
Interview/First_Look

Sadness - (TBA 2007)


Pics
Videos
First_Look


Dragon Quest Swords - (Q2 2007)


Pics
Videos
Preview


Project O - (TBA 200

Project O:artworks

Official_Site
Opoona - (TBA)

First_Look
Videos


Project Treasure Island Z (working title) - (Q4 2007)

Pics
Videos
Preview


Resident Evil 4 - (June 19)

Pics
Videos
Preview


Nights: Journy of Dreams (Q4 2007)

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Directory


Manhunt 2 - (July 10)

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  • Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Crystal Bearers - (TBA 2007)

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  • Brothers in Arms: Double Time - (Q3 2007)
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 Argument 2 - Wii = GC 1.5

Argument 1 - Graphics

Specs: "The console is roughly twice as powerful as a GameCube, putting it in horsepower territory beyond Xbox" (Link: IGN)

COMPARE SPECS FOR YOURSELF - GameCube vs. Wii

Gamecube - Super Mario Sunshine (videos)

Wii - Super Mario Galaxy (Videos)

GameCube - Super Smash Brothers Melee (Videos)

Wii - Super Smash Brothers Brawl (Videos)

NOTE - Mario Sunshine and Super Smash Bros. Melee were early Gamecube titles, but so are Super Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

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Argument 2 - Hardware

Gamecube -

http://oldsite.gamesfirst.com/previews/gamecube/GBA_GCconnected_large.gifhttp://www.gamesfirst.com/previews/gamecube/Controller_tn.gifThe image

 

Wii -

The image The image http://www.gamestop.com/common/images/lbox/802583b.jpgThe image

http://www.x-arcade.com/newsletter/2006/Wii%20controller_features2.png

The image http://img.bestofmicro.com/c/I212857.jpgThe image

http://voipnews.it/wp-content/var/nintendo-wifi.jpghttp://b2b.sony.com/Solutions/pages/BXShowcase/images/large/bluetoothTech.jpg

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Argument 3 - Software

Gamecube - menu system software

The image

game software - to be continued

http://www.nintendopedia.org/images/6/62/SunshineLogo.jpghttp://tothegame.com/res/game/1362/logo.jpghttp://smashbros.planets.gamespy.com/images2/ssbm_logo.jpg

Wii - menu system software

http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/wii_channels.jpg

http://www.wiichat.com/attachments/latest-nintendo-wii-news/1070d1163771953-wii-channel-menu-images-i_10598.jpghttp://wii.nintendo.com/images/04_wii_features/04_features_virtual_console_channel.jpg

game software - to be continued - In one year, the Wii will have all the major franchises that made fans love the GC. With Metroid Prime 3 being the last in the trilogy, Retro Studios will move on and make a new epic game for the Wii. Super Mario Galaxy will be the only "true" mario game for the Wii and Miyamoto will work on his new IP. Super Smash bros will also be the only Smash game on the Wii and the development team will move on to begger, better projects!

http://www.infendo.com/uploaded_images/mario3-706936.jpghttp://www.tothegame.com/res/game/4692/logo.jpghttp://www.pikatung.com/images/smash/logo.jpg

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#7 shumoc
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I'm really looking forward to Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn.
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#8 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Thats a great post but Fanboys will just say that list sucks like always.
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#9 OGTiago
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Looks like some people posted before you finished lol. Anyway, cool.
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Looks like some people posted before you finished lol. Anyway, cool.OGTiago

ya... oh well... 

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I already know the Wii's upcoming lineup, and I already know it isn't as good as the 360's, or even the PS3's for that matter. No matter how hard you try, you could never convince me that that sorry list of 3rd party games is better than what the 360 and PS3 have to offer.
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I'm really looking forward to Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn.shumoc

So am I. I've been replaying Path of Radiance while I wait. :D

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#13 Son_of_Some
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I believe that Sadness is coming out late 2008.
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#14 diggyzoom
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I will bump this because you put in the effort , but I wouldn't be surprised to see some of those games score in the 6 range and a lot of those score in the 7 range.

 

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I already know the Wii's upcoming lineup, and I already know it isn't as good as the 360's, or even the PS3's for that matter. No matter how hard you try, you could never convince me that that sorry list of 3rd party games is better than what the 360 and PS3 have to offer.Gamer556

Sorry nothing appeals to you man :(

I'll look forward for it for you :wink: 

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I believe that Sadness is coming out late 2008.Son_of_Some
I thought Sadness was expected early 2008 but I think it might only be sometime in 2008.
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A new Soul Calibur?!?!?!?  :shock:

*squeals*

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I already know the Wii's upcoming lineup, and I already know it isn't as good as the 360's, or even the PS3's for that matter. No matter how hard you try, you could never convince me that that sorry list of 3rd party games is better than what the 360 and PS3 have to offer.Gamer556

its not just the 3rd party. Nintendo's 1st party for 2007 (mainly Q3, Q4) is HUGE. Way larger than Sony's or Microsoft's 1st party line up for the end of the year. What Nintendo doesn't offer, 3rd parties do. I agree that the 360 and the PS3 have better 3rd party line-ups, but all in all.... I would say that the Wii is on Par with the 360 this year as a whole. Im a bit dissapointed in the PS3, but thats just me. 

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I will bump this because you put in the effort , but I wouldn't be surprised to see some of those games score in the 6 range and a lot of those score in the 7 range.

 

diggyzoom

 

It was a well put together list, and some of those games I can see getting 6-7, but a lot of games in sony's lineup aren't really much better if ya look at em. 

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How many of those games are actually out like right now? Now revise that list to whats out now and you'll find that Wii has no games.
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#21 Sonick54
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How many of those games are actually out like right now? Now revise that list to whats out now and you'll find that Wii has no games.pimperjones

But it does have games  

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How many of those games are actually out like right now? Now revise that list to whats out now and you'll find that Wii has no games.pimperjones
Wii has Super Paper Mario, Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess that is more then Nothing.
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How many of those games are actually out like right now? Now revise that list to whats out now and you'll find that Wii has no games.pimperjones

lol... this is about the future. Besides, the Wii is doing just as good as the PS3 right now. Its best games are either 360 ports or will be ported to the 360 in good time.  

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I will bump this because you put in the effort , but I wouldn't be surprised to see some of those games score in the 6 range and a lot of those score in the 7 range.

 

diggyzoom

 

I have to agree with Diggyzoom, a lot of those games will be lucky to get AA status imho 

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#25 SailorMars
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This is a pretty good thread. The Wii has alot more games to look forward to then I thought.
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Very nice list. As a games that owns all three systems it is hard to be anything less than excited with Nintendos offerings this generation!!
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[QUOTE="pimperjones"]How many of those games are actually out like right now? Now revise that list to whats out now and you'll find that Wii has no games.kansasdude2009

lol... this is about the future. Besides, the Wii is doing just as good as the PS3 right now. Its best games are either 360 ports or will be ported to the 360 in good time.

exactly!

what do ps3 owners have right now?......uhh.......resistance.....and......uhh.......oblivion?

what do wii owners have right now? super paper mario and twilight princess. I think were pretty much tied.

and before the haters go in and say"bu bu TP is availiable on the gc"..true..and oblivion has been availiable on the 360 and pc for the past year. 

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#28 NoRemorse13
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Very nice post. I appreciate the time and effort.
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[QUOTE="diggyzoom"]

I will bump this because you put in the effort , but I wouldn't be surprised to see some of those games score in the 6 range and a lot of those score in the 7 range.

 

Crovax20

 

I have to agree with Diggyzoom, a lot of those games will be lucky to get AA status imho

I could see these games being below AA status

Big Brain Acadamy Wii - June 11

 DK Jet - June 28

Harvest Moon: Tree of Peace - (TBA 2007)

Opoona - (TBA)

Manhunt 2 - (July 10)

And thats about it... the rest make up for it really. It also depends on taste in games. If you dont like Nintendo... then you wouldn't like the Wii too much. But with titles like these coming out... im set....

Super Mario Galaxy - TBA 2007 (Rumor: October)

Fire Emblem: Godess of Dawn - TBA

Disaster: Day of Crysis - TBA 2007

Metroid Prime 3 - TBA 2007

Battalion Wars 2 - TBA 2007

Super Smash Brothers: Brawl - TBA 2007

Soul Calibur Legends - (TBA)

The image The image

Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles (TBA 2007)

No More Heroes - (TBA 2007)

Dragon Quest Swords - (Q2 2007)

 

Project O - (TBA 200

Project O:artworks

Project Treasure Island Z (working title) - (Q4 2007)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'd like the ps3 fanboys name a decent game coming out for the ps3 that ISN'T an fps' or a game with a number in its name (I.E.: Devil May Cry 4, Gran turismo 5......) that looks like it might be a good game.
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[QUOTE="Gamer556"]I already know the Wii's upcoming lineup, and I already know it isn't as good as the 360's, or even the PS3's for that matter. No matter how hard you try, you could never convince me that that sorry list of 3rd party games is better than what the 360 and PS3 have to offer.kansasdude2009

its not just the 3rd party. Nintendo's 1st party for 2007 (mainly Q3, Q4) is HUGE. Way larger than Sony's or Microsoft's 1st party line up for the end of the year. What Nintendo doesn't offer, 3rd parties do. I agree that the 360 and the PS3 have better 3rd party line-ups, but all in all.... I would say that the Wii is on Par with the 360 this year as a whole. Im a bit dissapointed in the PS3, but thats just me. 

As big as Nintendo is, they can't make up for a lack of 3rd party developers. They've tried that for two generations now, and it hasn't worked out very well at all.

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#32 liberator927
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They mean that there are none out, right now. There are hundreds of great games on the horizon, but not many good games are out, and of the games coming out the best ones, SSBB, Metroid Prime 3, Galaxy etc, none have release dates, yet.
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#33 kansasdude2009
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Very nice post. I appreciate the time and effort. NoRemorse13

lol, its no problem. Ive been working on this for a long time. Head on over to The_Full_Thread! (fixed) and you will be even more amazed... or atleast im told thats the reaction... lol

It has more games, including the less hyped ones, more features including VC games, and more... its worth a look!

 

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I'd like the ps3 fanboys name a decent game coming out for the ps3 that ISN'T an fps' or a game with a number in its name (I.E.: Devil May Cry 4, Gran turismo 5......) that looks like it might be a good game.Kakua_Omari

I don't think Nintendo fans are in a position to bash PS3 sequels. How long have the Mario, Zelda, and Metroid franchises been running again?

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#36 kansasdude2009
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[QUOTE="kansasdude2009"]

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]I already know the Wii's upcoming lineup, and I already know it isn't as good as the 360's, or even the PS3's for that matter. No matter how hard you try, you could never convince me that that sorry list of 3rd party games is better than what the 360 and PS3 have to offer.Gamer556

its not just the 3rd party. Nintendo's 1st party for 2007 (mainly Q3, Q4) is HUGE. Way larger than Sony's or Microsoft's 1st party line up for the end of the year. What Nintendo doesn't offer, 3rd parties do. I agree that the 360 and the PS3 have better 3rd party line-ups, but all in all.... I would say that the Wii is on Par with the 360 this year as a whole. Im a bit dissapointed in the PS3, but thats just me.

As big as Nintendo is, they can't make up for a lack of 3rd party developers. They've tried that for two generations now, and it hasn't worked out very well at all.

very true. For my answer, just look at the newly announced Soul Calibur Legends. Was soul calibur ever exclusive to Nintendo? lol... nope. The wii has so many more games than the Gamecube did at this time, its not even funny. Wait till E3 when they will really start coming along.

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#37 kansasdude2009
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lol, this topic sucks. About half the games you listed are destined to be garbage, the graphical comparisons didn't prove your argument that the Wii =/= GCN 1.4 and the hardware post was pointless. Jesus Christ@you Nintendo fanboys. Go back to the drawing board. RaiderCharlie

maybe you should get better at posting.  

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How many of those games are actually out like right now? Now revise that list to whats out now and you'll find that Wii has no games.pimperjones
Doesn't the same go for the PS3?
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[QUOTE="Kakua_Omari"]I'd like the ps3 fanboys name a decent game coming out for the ps3 that ISN'T an fps' or a game with a number in its name (I.E.: Devil May Cry 4, Gran turismo 5......) that looks like it might be a good game.Gamer556

I don't think Nintendo fans are in a position to bash PS3 sequels. How long have the Mario, Zelda, and Metroid franchises been running again?

lol... MGS and FF have been around just as long and they have changed just as much, or as little, as all of Nintendo's franchises.  

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#40 flashattackfina
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 i have all consoles the wii need better game now until then wii= gc
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#41 Kahuna_1
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Yeah but the Wii has no good games no..and this scares me because Nintendo might hold back their 1st party games for a little bit longer period of time until sales dip:(.
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Attack of the Sheep: Ep. 3592: Hardware Havoc!
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Attack of the Sheep: Ep. 3592: Hardware Havoc!Toaster_Cell

lol.... :( 

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#44 foxhound_fox
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Again... kansasdude pulls out another extremely well organized thread that makes our head spin. :)

Wii rules... as does every system... >_>
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#45 Kakua_Omari
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I wasn't bashing ps3 games, just trying to see if anyone could name a decent game coming out for the ps3 that wasn't a sequel or prequel or an fps, bashing would entail something like this "MaN, teh ps3 ish thes CruMMiesT SysTEM evER.." (and I didn't mean it, just giving an example).
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#46 GunSmith1_basic
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that's a great list.  Other than the big 3 nintendo titles, I'm curious about fire emblem, wiimusic, soul calibur adventure, and project HAMMER.  Anyone who doens't know about project HAMMER should read the premise of the game and the control scheme.  Might be the most wii-suited game since wiisports.
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#47 Greyhound222
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Again... kansasdude pulls out another extremely well organized thread that makes our head spin. :)

Wii rules... as does every system... >_>
foxhound_fox
Agreed.There are only about 2 multiplats there,while any other 360 or PS3 list will be full of them.So much for "teh pees2 portz" argument.
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#48 Ganon_919
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Yeah but the Wii has no good games no..and this scares me because Nintendo might hold back their 1st party games for a little bit longer period of time until sales dip:(.Kahuna_1

The Wii has about 15 good games, 6 great games and a superb game... according to Gamespot.

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#49 SER69
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Oh ****!! Me needz anyother joerb!!!!!!!  Ima be brokenz!!!!!
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#50 chupathingy08
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I could say the same thing about the 360 as well. of course Nintendo are making games... but that just listing a list of games coming out... I could make a list of 360/PS3 game list and it would be the same effect.

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Those screens only look like the original games just with more bloom added. Not impressive at all.

the thing about their hardware is killing itself. All its saying is that its better than the Gamecube... which was true from the original statement "Gamecude 1.5". anyway its just comparing it to the Gamecube.... they have kewl motion sensors... but thats pretty much it. Plus having an SD card is stupid idea anyway... you think they would have a hard drive like everyone else. And for their menu thing... the WIi menu is crap compared to the 360s.