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#1 curono
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Please, right now, before you start listing the OMFG SHT UP YOU SHEEP/LEMMING, or with giant lists of games coming even to Wii please read.

Right now Wii has sold roughly  4 million units, in, say... a month, while PS3 hardly reaches half of this sales. I know that Wii is half as cheap, but those arguments only count on chocolates or things like that, when someone ACTUALLY buys the same product twice or thrice, and is pretty normal, so this logic does not apply.

On america there have been reports of PS3`s in stock just waiting to be taken, while Wii's are still hard to find. During last holidays, Wii was one of the hottest items, while PS3 was... well. PS3 was for sale.

Europe hasn't had PS3 news since the last delay... so, here is no much to argue (don't come with delay= hype, because it is not true Delay=p1$$3d consumers).

Japan, was, from last thing I heard at 1PS3 for each Wii. Let's be fair and say that Wii stopped selling like crazy. Still it would be 3 to 1 or, even 2-1, which in sales is too much.

As for their games, most of them are in this category:
"They are great games, but not worth the 600 bucks I invested"

Wii is not the only console on the market. I was not forgetting 360.

360 has the superb wonder of being a console with a target market EXTREMELY SIMILAR (if not equal...). And guess what. It, though is not the best selling console ever, is selling steady and nice, which leads only to one outcome.  360 is taking their audience in the right way, and in the process, taking audience AWAY from PS.

One of PS3's biggest troubles is that many of the games in their library are either on 360 (some even on Wii), or will be launched ALSO on 360, which happens to be more time in market, and is cheaper, AND with a great online proved system.

Even inside the company, there are grim faces. There have been several with major changes from representatives and chairmen  INSIDE SCEA. Guess why? YES it is because plans failed and development hasn't been as planned. Success is far from their  expectatives.

Yes. There are  nice games coming to PS3. MGS4, FFXIII and Heavenly Sword, but,  Those are 3 the only  4 games that surely rock. The rest have been either flops or dissapointments. Just Gengi and Motorstorm.

All this is a grim view. How can PS3 make a comeback?? My best guess is it can`t???

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Socom, Devil May Cry, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, blu-ray player, along with those games that you mentioned plus more like white knight story, silent hill 5, tekken 6, and just for fun Killzone lol haha who knows who knows.
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#4 Gen007
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i just feel that sonys time is slipping if something dosent change soon they might never comeback in this console war 
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Stop wasting everyones time, no one will read that garbage.
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#6 Cpt_Meh
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More people are buying it for it's Blu Ray player, rather than games...Games are what Sony counted on selling to make up the debt they incur with each console sale....I say PS3 sells 25-30 Million in it's lifespan, while Wii60 are both around 60million.
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Stop wasting everyones time, no one will read that garbage. D0wnfall1
I did and it makes sense. =/
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#8 curono
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Socom, Devil May Cry, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, blu-ray player, along with those games that you mentioned plus more like white knight story, silent hill 5, tekken 6, and just for fun Killzone lol haha who knows who knows.Kahuna_1

The fact that you mentioned blu-ray as a main reason, gives you small credit to your words.

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Socom, Devil May Cry, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, blu-ray player, along with those games that you mentioned plus more like white knight story, silent hill 5, tekken 6, and just for fun Killzone lol haha who knows who knows.Kahuna_1
None of those games are going to make a big enough difference to affect the console wars, the only appeal to a small group
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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]Socom, Devil May Cry, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, blu-ray player, along with those games that you mentioned plus more like white knight story, silent hill 5, tekken 6, and just for fun Killzone lol haha who knows who knows.curono

The fact that you mentioned blu-ray as a main reason, gives you small credit to your words.

no. The fact that you turned a blind eye to the PS3's lybraries, by antecipating that the titles aren't that good gives you small credit. Anyone could do that to any system. Like: all xbox360 has is Halo3, Gears of War. The rest is overrated and not proven good titles. It's a lie, everyone knows, just like what you said in the OP.

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#11 Wii26
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Well according to statistics it can. No one reads gamespot news?
I won't be bothered to go find it but apparently PS3 will come out as the leader after doing a lot of research in 2 years. Soooo yeah. Most people are holding off buying a PS3 (such as myself) until good games come out. For that it could be another 6-12 months. There's 4 years left. You think it can't come back? Well if you think so........
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Socom, Devil May Cry, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, blu-ray player, along with those games that you mentioned plus more like white knight story, silent hill 5, tekken 6, and just for fun Killzone lol haha who knows who knows.Kahuna_1

Can't wait to go home and beat my high score on Blu-Ray Player

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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]Socom, Devil May Cry, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, blu-ray player, along with those games that you mentioned plus more like white knight story, silent hill 5, tekken 6, and just for fun Killzone lol haha who knows who knows.curono

The fact that you mentioned blu-ray as a main reason, gives you small credit to your words.

and why is that? give me some 360 games? halo and gears thats it

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[QUOTE="curono"]

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]Socom, Devil May Cry, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, blu-ray player, along with those games that you mentioned plus more like white knight story, silent hill 5, tekken 6, and just for fun Killzone lol haha who knows who knows.xxgunslingerxx

The fact that you mentioned blu-ray as a main reason, gives you small credit to your words.

and why is that? give me some 360 games? halo and gears thats it


Um, Mass Effect and Bioshock to name a couple.  I'm sure some lemmings can post A LOT more.
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Please, right now, before you start listing the OMFG SHT UP YOU SHEEP/LEMMING, or with giant lists of games coming even to Wii please read.

Right now Wii has sold roughly 4 million units, in, say... a month, while PS3 hardly reaches half of this sales. I know that Wii is half as cheap, but those arguments only count on chocolates or things like that, when someone ACTUALLY buys the same product twice or thrice, and is pretty normal, so this logic does not apply.

On america there have been reports of PS3`s in stock just waiting to be taken, while Wii's are still hard to find. During last holidays, Wii was one of the hottest items, while PS3 was... well. PS3 was for sale.

Europe hasn't had PS3 news since the last delay... so, here is no much to argue (don't come with delay= hype, because it is not true Delay=p1$$3d consumers).

Japan, was, from last thing I heard at 1PS3 for each Wii. Let's be fair and say that Wii stopped selling like crazy. Still it would be 3 to 1 or, even 2-1, which in sales is too much.

As for their games, most of them are in this category:
"They are great games, but not worth the 600 bucks I invested"

Wii is not the only console on the market. I was not forgetting 360.

360 has the superb wonder of being a console with a target market EXTREMELY SIMILAR (if not equal...). And guess what. It, though is not the best selling console ever, is selling steady and nice, which leads only to one outcome. 360 is taking their audience in the right way, and in the process, taking audience AWAY from PS.

One of PS3's biggest troubles is that many of the games in their library are either on 360 (some even on Wii), or will be launched ALSO on 360, which happens to be more time in market, and is cheaper, AND with a great online proved system.

Even inside the company, there are grim faces. There have been several with major changes from representatives and chairmen INSIDE SCEA. Guess why? YES it is because plans failed and development hasn't been as planned. Success is far from their expectatives.

Yes. There are nice games coming to PS3. MGS4, FFXIII and Heavenly Sword, but, Those are 3 the only 4 games that surely rock. The rest have been either flops or dissapointments. Just Gengi and Motorstorm.

All this is a grim view. How can PS3 make a comeback?? My best guess is it can`t???

curono


It better not, I just spent 450$ off ebay, and also, your theory (more like fact) is pretty irrelevant due to the fact that NO ONE CARES ABOUT SALES!!!! But they should, more sales = more popularity = more games = more exclusives = alot of other things. In my opinion, the Wii will fail, thats right, I said it. After the hype and demand is gone, and everyone has one... Wait... Where are the games? Sure it'll sell great, but after theyre all sold, Nintendo wont care as much about strong titles since they already sold a Wii to anyone that wanted one. (just a theory)
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[QUOTE="curono"]

Please, right now, before you start listing the OMFG SHT UP YOU SHEEP/LEMMING, or with giant lists of games coming even to Wii please read.

Right now Wii has sold roughly 4 million units, in, say... a month, while PS3 hardly reaches half of this sales. I know that Wii is half as cheap, but those arguments only count on chocolates or things like that, when someone ACTUALLY buys the same product twice or thrice, and is pretty normal, so this logic does not apply.

On america there have been reports of PS3`s in stock just waiting to be taken, while Wii's are still hard to find. During last holidays, Wii was one of the hottest items, while PS3 was... well. PS3 was for sale.

Europe hasn't had PS3 news since the last delay... so, here is no much to argue (don't come with delay= hype, because it is not true Delay=p1$$3d consumers).

Japan, was, from last thing I heard at 1PS3 for each Wii. Let's be fair and say that Wii stopped selling like crazy. Still it would be 3 to 1 or, even 2-1, which in sales is too much.

As for their games, most of them are in this category:
"They are great games, but not worth the 600 bucks I invested"

Wii is not the only console on the market. I was not forgetting 360.

360 has the superb wonder of being a console with a target market EXTREMELY SIMILAR (if not equal...). And guess what. It, though is not the best selling console ever, is selling steady and nice, which leads only to one outcome. 360 is taking their audience in the right way, and in the process, taking audience AWAY from PS.

One of PS3's biggest troubles is that many of the games in their library are either on 360 (some even on Wii), or will be launched ALSO on 360, which happens to be more time in market, and is cheaper, AND with a great online proved system.

Even inside the company, there are grim faces. There have been several with major changes from representatives and chairmen INSIDE SCEA. Guess why? YES it is because plans failed and development hasn't been as planned. Success is far from their expectatives.

Yes. There are nice games coming to PS3. MGS4, FFXIII and Heavenly Sword, but, Those are 3 the only 4 games that surely rock. The rest have been either flops or dissapointments. Just Gengi and Motorstorm.

All this is a grim view. How can PS3 make a comeback?? My best guess is it can`t???

black_chewbacca



It better not, I just spent 450$ off ebay, and also, your theory (more like fact) is pretty irrelevant due to the fact that NO ONE CARES ABOUT SALES!!!! But they should, more sales = more popularity = more games = more exclusives = alot of other things. In my opinion, the Wii will fail, thats right, I said it. After the hype and demand is gone, and everyone has one... Wait... Where are the games? Sure it'll sell great, but after theyre all sold, Nintendo wont care as much about strong titles since they already sold a Wii to anyone that wanted one. (just a theory)

About  sales doesn't matter: TELL THAT TO NGC

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[QUOTE="xxgunslingerxx"][QUOTE="curono"]

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]Socom, Devil May Cry, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, blu-ray player, along with those games that you mentioned plus more like white knight story, silent hill 5, tekken 6, and just for fun Killzone lol haha who knows who knows.twags82

The fact that you mentioned blu-ray as a main reason, gives you small credit to your words.

and why is that? give me some 360 games? halo and gears thats it


Um, Mass Effect and Bioshock to name a couple.  I'm sure some lemmings can post A LOT more.

Too bad cows can't do that really. Except for 3-4 games I forgot,  cows can't go longer.

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[QUOTE="curono"]

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]Socom, Devil May Cry, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, blu-ray player, along with those games that you mentioned plus more like white knight story, silent hill 5, tekken 6, and just for fun Killzone lol haha who knows who knows.SambaLele

The fact that you mentioned blu-ray as a main reason, gives you small credit to your words.

no. The fact that you turned a blind eye to the PS3's lybraries, by antecipating that the titles aren't that good gives you small credit. Anyone could do that to any system. Like: all xbox360 has is Halo3, Gears of War. The rest is overrated and not proven good titles. It's a lie, everyone knows, just like what you said in the OP.



PS3 up coming games? Where exactly did you get Silent Hill? Either I'm blind to the news, or you're making a wish list.

Edited: Just noticed. Hmmm thats very nice, did not know that.
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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]Socom, Devil May Cry, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, blu-ray player, along with those games that you mentioned plus more like white knight story, silent hill 5, tekken 6, and just for fun Killzone lol haha who knows who knows.cheezisgoooood

Can't wait to go home and beat my high score on Blu-Ray Player

lol those are reasons it wont fail, blu-ray is one of them.

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Anyone wanna summarize that for me its too long.
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WAAAAAAAY too early to tell. Give it a bit more than two and a half months before you  make an ultimate judgement.
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Please, right now, before you start listing the OMFG SHT UP YOU SHEEP/LEMMING, or with giant lists of games coming even to Wii please read.

Right now Wii has sold roughly 4 million units, in, say... a month, while PS3 hardly reaches half of this sales. I know that Wii is half as cheap, but those arguments only count on chocolates or things like that, when someone ACTUALLY buys the same product twice or thrice, and is pretty normal, so this logic does not apply.

On america there have been reports of PS3`s in stock just waiting to be taken, while Wii's are still hard to find. During last holidays, Wii was one of the hottest items, while PS3 was... well. PS3 was for sale.

Europe hasn't had PS3 news since the last delay... so, here is no much to argue (don't come with delay= hype, because it is not true Delay=p1$$3d consumers).

Japan, was, from last thing I heard at 1PS3 for each Wii. Let's be fair and say that Wii stopped selling like crazy. Still it would be 3 to 1 or, even 2-1, which in sales is too much.

As for their games, most of them are in this category:
"They are great games, but not worth the 600 bucks I invested"

Wii is not the only console on the market. I was not forgetting 360.

360 has the superb wonder of being a console with a target market EXTREMELY SIMILAR (if not equal...). And guess what. It, though is not the best selling console ever, is selling steady and nice, which leads only to one outcome. 360 is taking their audience in the right way, and in the process, taking audience AWAY from PS.

One of PS3's biggest troubles is that many of the games in their library are either on 360 (some even on Wii), or will be launched ALSO on 360, which happens to be more time in market, and is cheaper, AND with a great online proved system.

Even inside the company, there are grim faces. There have been several with major changes from representatives and chairmen INSIDE SCEA. Guess why? YES it is because plans failed and development hasn't been as planned. Success is far from their expectatives.

Yes. There are nice games coming to PS3. MGS4, FFXIII and Heavenly Sword, but, Those are 3 the only 4 games that surely rock. The rest have been either flops or dissapointments. Just Gengi and Motorstorm.

All this is a grim view. How can PS3 make a comeback?? My best guess is it can`t???

curono
Wii has been out for more than a month, at least two and a half.
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I disapproves this topic.

palaric8

I agrees. It's funny how naive fanboys can be.
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[QUOTE="palaric8"]

I disapproves this topic.

ZeLeam

I agrees. It's funny how naive fanboys can be.

I is no fanboy naive!!:shock:

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[QUOTE="palaric8"]

I disapproves this topic.

ZeLeam

I agrees. It's funny how naive fanboys can be.

trues.
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You don't know the reason why people will buy the system when it costs 300 $ in 3 years. They might buy it for gaming blu-ray and any other purpose. Don't even state that the games aren't good. Mgs2 sold 7.8, mgs3 5 million, what do you expect mgs4 not to sell really well? Do you expect that it isn't a reason for some people to buy a ps3. Now tekken. A series that always sold millions. TEkken 4 the last ps2 game sold around 2.14 million.  DO you expect the sales of tekken 6 to diminish sales so much due to it being on the ps3. FF is one of the biggest series. Not one ff game has sold less then 1 million. Do you expect the sales to diminish being on the ps3?Now their are numerous new titles that have huge chances of getting a million sold. Uncharted: Drake's fortune, rfom (which will happen around febuary when it breaks a million), heavenly sword, motorstorm, socom, lair, and including the non exclusives, madden, half life 2, gta4, burnout 5, stranglehold, and possibly oblivion and unreal tournament.

Here are my expectations for total sales after 2007:

Wii: Around 20 million

PS3: Around 12 million

Xbox 360:Around 14 million.

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[QUOTE="curono"]

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]Socom, Devil May Cry, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, blu-ray player, along with those games that you mentioned plus more like white knight story, silent hill 5, tekken 6, and just for fun Killzone lol haha who knows who knows.SambaLele

The fact that you mentioned blu-ray as a main reason, gives you small credit to your words.

no. The fact that you turned a blind eye to the PS3's lybraries, by antecipating that the titles aren't that good gives you small credit. Anyone could do that to any system. Like: all xbox360 has is Halo3, Gears of War. The rest is overrated and not proven good titles. It's a lie, everyone knows, just like what you said in the OP.

Infinite Undiscovery

Trusty Bell(Eternal Sonata)

Lost Odyssey

Too Human

Mass Effect

Halo 3

Halo Wars

Blue Dragon

Crackdown

Bullet Witch

Hour of Victory

Forza Motorsport 2

The following games are exclusive to the Xbox 360 platform. None of these titles are available on the PC, Playstation 3, Playstation 2, or Wii. They are upcoming games currently set as exclusive.

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[QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="curono"]

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]Socom, Devil May Cry, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, blu-ray player, along with those games that you mentioned plus more like white knight story, silent hill 5, tekken 6, and just for fun Killzone lol haha who knows who knows.fatzombiepigeon

The fact that you mentioned blu-ray as a main reason, gives you small credit to your words.

no. The fact that you turned a blind eye to the PS3's lybraries, by antecipating that the titles aren't that good gives you small credit. Anyone could do that to any system. Like: all xbox360 has is Halo3, Gears of War. The rest is overrated and not proven good titles. It's a lie, everyone knows, just like what you said in the OP.

Infinite Undiscovery

Trusty Bell(Eternal Sonata)

Lost Odyssey

Too Human

Mass Effect

Halo 3

Halo Wars

Blue Dragon

Crackdown

Bullet Witch

Hour of Victory

Forza Motorsport 2

The following games are exclusive to the Xbox 360 platform. None of these titles are available on the PC, Playstation 3, Playstation 2, or Wii. They are upcoming games currently set as exclusive.

That doesn't matter to sales Blue dragon bullet witch hour of victory Infinite Undiscovery Lost Odyssey Trusty Bell(Eternal Sonata) Will most likely not get that many sales. Since it doesn't have the right crowd for those games. They will turn out to be similar to viva pinata sales. The games that will most likely sell over a million is Banjo Thressie Mass Effect Halo 3 Crackdown Forza MOtorsport 2 Too human That are my guesses.
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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]Socom, Devil May Cry, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, blu-ray player, along with those games that you mentioned plus more like white knight story, silent hill 5, tekken 6, and just for fun Killzone lol haha who knows who knows.curono

The fact that you mentioned blu-ray as a main reason, gives you small credit to your words.

So what makes you right!!! you aren't saying anything different than people where saying about the ps2 came out some get your facts straight!!!  It is way to early to say it has failed.........please stop with the fanboy rants is makes you look foolish!

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#32 flazzle
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Anyone wanna summarize that for me its too long.youngthug69

It's not worth knowing honestly. Just read the last sentence in the OP