Looking back, Denis Dyack warned us about the casual route Nintendo was headed..

GS: You were a second-party developer for Nintendo, but this didn't work out. What happened?

Dyack: We're not talking about business details. They wanted to move in a different direction than we did, so we parted ways.

GS: What direction is that?

Dyack: They wanted to create smaller and simpler games, and we wanted to make deeper and more-epic game experiences.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6136690.html

This was an interview from 2005, and I guess he was right. Now, do you think Nintendo should make more games like Twilight Princess and Super Mario Galaxy on Wii, or do you prefer the more casual approach with games like Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and Wii Music?

LOL WTH, that image is awesome:lol:FirstDiscovery

Mr. Dyack does look quite dashing when he's dressed up. The ladies love it.

Dang, Denis Dyack. You were so right that parting ways led to you creating the awesomeness that was Too Human. I give you major props on that move.Zhengi

Dang, Denis Dyack. You were so right that parting ways led to you creating the awesomeness that was Too Human. I give you major props on that move.Zhengi

I guess it's better than blowing on a Wii-mote like it's a flute, though...

GS: You were a second-party developer for Nintendo, but this didn't work out. What happened?

Dyack: We're not talking about business details. They wanted to move in a different direction than we did, so we parted ways.

GS: What direction is that?

Dyack: They wanted to create smaller and simpler games, and we wanted to make deeper and more-epic game experiences.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6136690.html

This was an interview from 2005, and I guess he was right. Now, do you think Nintendo should make more games like Twilight Princess and Super Mario Galaxy on Wii, or do you prefer the more casual approach with games like Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and Wii Music?

BioShockOwnz

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]Dang, Denis Dyack. You were so right that parting ways led to you creating the awesomeness that was Too Human. I give you major props on that move.BioShockOwnz

I guess it's better than blowing on a Wii-mote like it's a flute, though...

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]Dang, Denis Dyack. You were so right that parting ways led to you creating the awesomeness that was Too Human. I give you major props on that move.BioShockOwnz

I guess it's better than blowing on a Wii-mote like it's a flute, though...

To answer your question, I want both... I love deep games, but as i've aged and gained more responsibilities I enjoy the pick up and play games for what they are. I think there is a place for both, and I think Nintendo has proved this.... skingus

Yeah, that's true. Wii Fit gave me abs of steel.:P It's a perfect little gaming device and workout device (not the best, but it's alright!) all in one. It's nice to get that daily morning burn before heading into the office hellhole.

Dang, Denis Dyack. You were so right that parting ways led to you creating the awesomeness that was Too Human. I give you major props on that move.Zhengi

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]LOL WTH, that image is awesome:lol:BioShockOwnz

Mr. Dyack does look quite dashing when he's dressed up. The ladies love it.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]Dang, Denis Dyack. You were so right that parting ways led to you creating the awesomeness that was Too Human. I give you major props on that move.0bscurity

I guess it's better than blowing on a Wii-mote like it's a flute, though...

Note: I don't play the flute. :P

[QUOTE="0bscurity"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

 

I guess it's better than blowing on a Wii-mote like it's a flute, though...

BioShockOwnz

Note: I don't play the flute. :P

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]Dang, Denis Dyack. You were so right that parting ways led to you creating the awesomeness that was Too Human. I give you major props on that move.BioShockOwnz

I guess it's better than blowing on a Wii-mote like it's a flute, though...

Wii Music -- 6.5

Too Human -- 5.5

Not according to Gamespot. :| 

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]LOL WTH, that image is awesome:lol:FirstDiscovery

Mr. Dyack does look quite dashing when he's dressed up. The ladies love it.

Paris Hilton approves -- that's hawt! The Denis Dyack has started maybe the sexiest fashion trend to grace this world. I think he should be the main character in the next Silicon Knights game. It should be a game about you (Denis Dyack) having to defend yourself against a horde of women, and at the end, you'll be able to have a dating game with the few remaining women, and you'll get to choose which one lives and which ones die.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]Dang, Denis Dyack. You were so right that parting ways led to you creating the awesomeness that was Too Human. I give you major props on that move.AlexSays

I guess it's better than blowing on a Wii-mote like it's a flute, though...

Wii Music -- 6.5

Too Human -- 5.5

Not according to Gamespot. :| 

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]Dang, Denis Dyack. You were so right that parting ways led to you creating the awesomeness that was Too Human. I give you major props on that move.AlexSays

I guess it's better than blowing on a Wii-mote like it's a flute, though...

Wii Music -- 6.5

Too Human -- 5.5

Not according to Gamespot. :| 

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]Dang, Denis Dyack. You were so right that parting ways led to you creating the awesomeness that was Too Human. I give you major props on that move.AlexSays

I guess it's better than blowing on a Wii-mote like it's a flute, though...

Wii Music -- 6.5

Too Human -- 5.5

Not according to Gamespot. :|

Wii has lower standards, that's why. ;) Hey, I dig the Wii Music, but it's surely no "game".

[QUOTE="AlexSays"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

 

I guess it's better than blowing on a Wii-mote like it's a flute, though...

BioShockOwnz

Wii Music -- 6.5

Too Human -- 5.5

Not according to Gamespot. :|

Wii has lower standards, that's why. ;) Hey, I dig the Wii Music, but it's surely no "game".

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

 

Mr. Dyack does look quite dashing when he's dressed up. The ladies love it.

BioShockOwnz

Paris Hilton approves -- that's hawt! The Denis Dyack has started maybe the sexiest fashion trend to grace this world. I think he should be the main character in the next Silicon Knights game. It should be a game about you (Denis Dyack) having to defend yourself against a horde of women, and at the end, you'll be able to have a dating game with the few remaining women, and you'll get to choose which one lives and which ones die.

[QUOTE="AlexSays"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

 

I guess it's better than blowing on a Wii-mote like it's a flute, though...

BioShockOwnz

Wii Music -- 6.5

Too Human -- 5.5

Not according to Gamespot. :|

Wii has lower standards, that's why. ;) Hey, I dig the Wii Music, but it's surely no "game".

So we can say Banjo-Kazooie is better than Super Mario Galaxy because the Wii has lower standards?AlexSays

Buh buh teh Endless Ocean is teh innovative:cry:FirstDiscovery

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"] I think i should grow a belly (almost there), go bold and wear speccys. Ill introduce the trend to the UK:lol:FirstDiscovery

Paris Hilton approves -- that's hawt! The Denis Dyack has started maybe the sexiest fashion trend to grace this world. I think he should be the main character in the next Silicon Knights game. It should be a game about you (Denis Dyack) having to defend yourself against a horde of women, and at the end, you'll be able to have a dating game with the few remaining women, and you'll get to choose which one lives and which ones die.

:lol: What can I say -- I'm a genius! ;)

Oh, and there should be some God of War-style mini-games in there, too. But this one will only use the innovative analog stick controls for maximum bed rockin'.

[QUOTE="AlexSays"]So we can say Banjo-Kazooie is better than Super Mario Galaxy because the Wii has lower standards?FirstDiscovery

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Buh buh teh Endless Ocean is teh innovative:cry:AlexSays

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Paris Hilton approves -- that's hawt! The Denis Dyack has started maybe the sexiest fashion trend to grace this world. I think he should be the main character in the next Silicon Knights game. It should be a game about you (Denis Dyack) having to defend yourself against a horde of women, and at the end, you'll be able to have a dating game with the few remaining women, and you'll get to choose which one lives and which ones die.

BioShockOwnz

:lol: What can I say -- I'm a genius! ;)

Oh, and there should be some God of War-style mini-games in there, too. But this one will only use the innovative analog stick controls for maximum bed rockin'.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="AlexSays"]

Wii Music -- 6.5

Too Human -- 5.5

Not according to Gamespot. :|

Zhengi

Wii has lower standards, that's why. ;) Hey, I dig the Wii Music, but it's surely no "game".

Oh snap, well... well... dammit, you got me. I give up. You won! Happy? Grrr! :x

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="AlexSays"]So we can say Banjo-Kazooie is better than Super Mario Galaxy because the Wii has lower standards?AlexSays

Meaning reviewers can have lapses in judgements, with that said, SMG is awesome, as Jay Z said to Nas, your every 10 year average, Sheep still use it as an excuse to show that the Wii is still goodFirstDiscovery

No you still missed my point.

You and Bioshock said Wii Music scored better than Too Human because the Wii has lower standards.

With that way of thinking, isn't EVERY 360 game better than EVERY Wii game?

Super Mario Galaxy scored a full point higher than Banjo.

But since the Wii has lower standards, does that mean Banjo is automatically better?

That's what I'm wondering. Because if this is the new way of thinking it'll catch on quick. 

Dang, Denis Dyack. You were so right that parting ways led to you creating the awesomeness that was Too Human. I give you major props on that move.Zhengi

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]Dang, Denis Dyack. You were so right that parting ways led to you creating the awesomeness that was Too Human. I give you major props on that move.Shafftehr

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]

Meaning reviewers can have lapses in judgements, with that said, SMG is awesome, as Jay Z said to Nas, your every 10 year average, Sheep still use it as an excuse to show that the Wii is still goodAlexSays

No you still missed my point.

You and Bioshock said Wii Music scored better than Too Human because the Wii has lower standards.

With that way of thinking, isn't EVERY 360 game better than EVERY Wii game?

Super Mario Galaxy scored a full point higher than Banjo.

But since the Wii has lower standards, does that mean Banjo is automatically better?

That's what I'm wondering. Because if this is the new way of thinking it'll catch on quick.

Nintendo has always been the king of platformers. I don't think many will argue against that. But what I meant is that the Wii has lower standards because it's sold on its "casual" nature, thus review standards aren't the same as a hardcore gaming machine like PS3, 360, or PC.

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]Dang, Denis Dyack. You were so right that parting ways led to you creating the awesomeness that was Too Human. I give you major props on that move.Shafftehr

Nintendo has always been the king of platformers. I don't think many will argue against that. But what I meant is that the Wii has lower standards because it's sold on its "casual" nature, thus review standards aren't the same as a hardcore gaming machine like PS3, 360, or PC.

BioShockOwnz

Yeah I understand that. lol

And Mario fits right into that "casual" nature.

So once again, is Banjo better than Galaxy? :P 

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Nintendo has always been the king of platformers. I don't think many will argue against that. But what I meant is that the Wii has lower standards because it's sold on its "casual" nature, thus review standards aren't the same as a hardcore gaming machine like PS3, 360, or PC.

AlexSays

Yeah I understand that. lol

And Mario fits right into that "casual" nature.

So once again, is Banjo better than Galaxy? :P

Super Mario Galaxy definitely caters to the hardcore, though. It wouldn't be in my top 3 favorites of this gen if it didn't.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Nintendo has always been the king of platformers. I don't think many will argue against that. But what I meant is that the Wii has lower standards because it's sold on its "casual" nature, thus review standards aren't the same as a hardcore gaming machine like PS3, 360, or PC.

AlexSays

Yeah I understand that. lol

And Mario fits right into that "casual" nature.

So once again, is Banjo better than Galaxy? :P 

Super Mario Galaxy definitely caters to the hardcore, though. It wouldn't be in my top 3 favorites of this gen if it didn't.

 

BioShockOwnz

I don't see how. Mario has always been casual.

It's marketed as a game that anyone and everyone can play, and is very easy to get into.

Too Human is basically in the same arena as Red Steel for quality, and I've heard plenty of Sheep praising Red Steel.Shafftehr

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Super Mario Galaxy definitely caters to the hardcore, though. It wouldn't be in my top 3 favorites of this gen if it didn't.

AlexSays

I don't see how. Mario has always been casual.

It's marketed as a game that anyone and everyone can play, and is very easy to get into.

A hardcore game doesn't have to be difficult and convoluted. Mario is a franchise that can be loved by casuals and hardcores, and that's because it has something for both of them. Being more than a glorified mini-game is probably part of it.

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="Zhengi"] If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas.Zhengi

I notice you didn't answer my question. Though, I don't see why you would... Red Steel, which Sheep praise, got 65% at GR... Too Human, one of the most reviled games on the 360 which is considered to be Dyack's fall from grace, got a 69%. The sad thing is, if he'd made that game for the Wii, Sheep looking for "serious" games would be praising it, much like Red Steel... And we both know it. Though, in fairness, even some desperate Lemmings went on about Too Human...

A hardcore game doesn't have to be difficult and convoluted. Mario is a franchise that can be loved by casuals and hardcores, and that's because it has something for both of them. Being more than a glorified mini-game is probably part of it.

BioShockOwnz

So Galaxy IS better than Banjo because it caters to the hardcore as well as the casual, thus escaping overrated reviews due to the low Wii standards.

While casual-only games get overrated because they're affected by the very same low standards Galaxy and friends didn't fall victim to.

Leave him alone, hes so 1337, he played GTAIV for 15 mins and goes around bashing it. Sheep know the future, you gamers with your high scoring games know nothing...FirstDiscovery