Looking back, Denis Dyack warned us about the casual route Nintendo was headed..

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Shafftehr"] Eh, the man made one of the most praised Sheep games in the entire last gen, and I'd argue that the average Wii game is worse than the average GC game... So do you think I'm wrong? Too Human is basically in the same arena as Red Steel for quality, and I've heard plenty of Sheep praising Red Steel.Shafftehr

I notice you didn't answer my question. Though, I don't see why you would... Red Steel, which Sheep praise, got 65% at GR... Too Human, one of the most reviled games on the 360 which is considered to be Dyack's fall from grace, got a 69%. The sad thing is, if he'd made that game for the Wii, Sheep looking for "serious" games would be praising it, much like Red Steel... And we both know it. Though, in fairness, even some desperate Lemmings went on about Too Human...

What is there to answer? It's a ridiculous notion that is unsubstantiated and cannot be argued either way because Too Human will never be released on the Wii. So why even argue about nonpoints? It'd be a complete waste of time, especially since you're so serious that you actually have a point :lol:

As for Rare, I've played Viva Pinata. I didn't think it was that great of a game. And I see you avoided the other Rare games. Yeah, Rare doesn't bring out the same type of quality games as they used to.

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Leave him alone, hes so 1337, he played GTAIV for 15 mins and goes around bashing it. Sheep know the future, you gamers with your high scoring games know nothing...Shafftehr

It seems that wherever Nintendo is lacking, Sheep dont care. Its like the Conduit, yay graphics matter, yay shooters are cool, yay online is important! Catch my drift?FirstDiscovery

So you're calling me a fanboy playing what I like?

And if you've seen any of my posts you'd see I couldn't care less about The Conduit. 

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]It seems that wherever Nintendo is lacking, Sheep dont care. Its like the Conduit, yay graphics matter, yay shooters are cool, yay online is important! Catch my drift?AlexSays

So you're calling me a fanboy playing what I like? 

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Leave him alone, hes so 1337, he played GTAIV for 15 mins and goes around bashing it. Sheep know the future, you gamers with your high scoring games know nothing...FirstDiscovery

Ehh no, its just that when it comes to the Wii, its all okay to accept Nintendo being lazyFirstDiscovery

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Ehh no, its just that when it comes to the Wii, its all okay to accept Nintendo being lazyAlexSays

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[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]It seems that wherever Nintendo is lacking, Sheep dont care. Its like the Conduit, yay graphics matter, yay shooters are cool, yay online is important! Catch my drift?FirstDiscovery

So you're calling me a fanboy playing what I like? 

Hell no it isn't. I'm 100% sheep. Nothing on the 360 or PS3 interests me...but I have bought only two Nintendo games this year. Smash and Mario Kart. I skipped Wiimusic, Animal Crossing, and Warioland cause they were all subpar and lazy. (I wan't wiifit but can't find it)

The rest of my stuff from this year have been great third party games.

Nintendo doesn't get a free pass. They have dropped the ball these last 6 months.

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="AlexSays"]

 

So you're calling me a fanboy playing what I like? 

goblaa

Hell no it isn't. I'm 100% sheep. Nothing on the 360 or PS3 interests me...but I have bought only two Nintendo games this year. Smash and Mario Kart. I skipped Wiimusic, Animal Crossing, and Warioland cause they were all subpar and lazy. (I wan't wiifit but can't find it)

The rest of my stuff from this year have been great third party games.

Nintendo doesn't get a free pass. They have dropped the ball these last 6 months.

What is there to answer? It's a ridiculous notion that is unsubstantiated and cannot be argued either way because Too Human will never be released on the Wii. So why even argue about nonpoints? It'd be a complete waste of time, especially since you're so serious that you actually have a point :lol:

As for Rare, I've played Viva Pinata. I didn't think it was that great of a game. And I see you avoided the other Rare games. Yeah, Rare doesn't bring out the same type of quality games as they used to.

How are you right? I never praised Red Steel. So I'm supposed to go with what others say about this game? And who cares about Ifs? The FACT remains that this game will never go to the Wii because it's published by MS. Why don't people talk about "What if SMG was on the 360?" You know why? Because it's NEVER going to happen, so why even talk about it? It's a waste of time.

It's fine that you liked Viva Pinata, but the fact remains is that Rare is not the same rare from when they were with Nintendo.

[QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Ehh no, its just that when it comes to the Wii, its all okay to accept Nintendo being lazyFirstDiscovery

Hell no it isn't. I'm 100% sheep. Nothing on the 360 or PS3 interests me...but I have bought only two Nintendo games this year. Smash and Mario Kart. I skipped Wiimusic, Animal Crossing, and Warioland cause they were all subpar and lazy. (I wan't wiifit but can't find it)

The rest of my stuff from this year have been great third party games.

Nintendo doesn't get a free pass. They have dropped the ball these last 6 months.

Wow, way to take that out of proportion. You've been in SW too long. I certainly was not praising Nintendo. And God forbid I don't like the other systems' games.

Take a chill pill.

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

 

Hell no it isn't. I'm 100% sheep. Nothing on the 360 or PS3 interests me...but I have bought only two Nintendo games this year. Smash and Mario Kart. I skipped Wiimusic, Animal Crossing, and Warioland cause they were all subpar and lazy. (I wan't wiifit but can't find it)

The rest of my stuff from this year have been great third party games.

Nintendo doesn't get a free pass. They have dropped the ball these last 6 months.

goblaa

Wow, way to take that out of proportion. You've been in SW too long. I certainly was not praising Nintendo. And God forbid I don't like the other systems' games.

Take a chill pill.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

A hardcore game doesn't have to be difficult and convoluted. Mario is a franchise that can be loved by casuals and hardcores, and that's because it has something for both of them. Being more than a glorified mini-game is probably part of it.

AlexSays

So Galaxy IS better than Banjo because it caters to the hardcore as well as the casual, thus escaping overrated reviews due to the low Wii standards.

While casual-only games get overrated because they're affected by the very same low standards Galaxy and friends didn't fall victim to.

That's one game in one genre. 80%-85% of Wii games released are casual shovelware.

[QUOTE="AlexSays"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I guess it's better than blowing on a Wii-mote like it's a flute, though...

FirstDiscovery

Wii Music -- 6.5

Too Human -- 5.5

Not according to Gamespot. :|

[QUOTE="AlexSays"]So we can say Banjo-Kazooie is better than Super Mario Galaxy because the Wii has lower standards?FirstDiscovery

[QUOTE="AlexSays"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]It does have some excellent games, i admit that, but Sheep think those handful can actually compare to the PC/360/PS3? We have as many AAEs for our systems as the total AAs they haveFirstDiscovery

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="AlexSays"] To me, there is no comparison. I couldn't find any assortment of 360 or PS3 games that I'd enjoy more than my current library of Wii games. But then I don't care for online, which seems to be a big selling point for a lot of games on the other consoles.fbigent34

[QUOTE="fbigent34"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Sorry we go by SW rules I could say exactly the same thing about the entire Wii lineup. It seems that wherever Nintendo is lacking, Sheep dont care. Its like the Conduit, yay graphics matter, yay shooters are cool, yay online is important! Catch my drift?bf2nutta