Looks like Gears of War 3 is using FXAA afterall (Pics)

Look at where the AA breaks in the first shot (Roof)

And on the tips of Dom's fingers.

That is a huge boost for Image Quality. I hope Naughty Dog uses this AA method in Uncharted 3.

Interesting posts from Beyond 3D:

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1568471&postcount=2746

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1568480&postcount=2748

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1568548&postcount=2749

Now let's remember Gears of War 2 with 2XMSAA (Which was completely broken)

As long as it makes the game look better and not worse I'm all for it. But the beta already looked great, I hope FXAA does not make everything burry.

Looks nice, but I'd like to see it in motion. A lot of the post-processing AA methods suffer from ghosting and other visual issues.

Hmm, interesting, but does it look good in motion? MLAA sure doesn't x.xInconsistancy

FXAA has better temporal stablility. So I would believe so.

Didn't ND develop this? If so there's a little bit of Sony in Gears 3 :) Either way i cannot for this it looks amazing and Gears 2 looked quite good as well and this has had a tonne more polish and optimizing!!JohnF111

FXAA is an Nvidia tech(If I remember correctly, which I'm 98% sure I am).

Hmm, interesting, but does it look good in motion? MLAA sure doesn't x.xInconsistancy

It looks good in motion, depending on the game. In killzone 3 it doesn't look good at all :P

Looks great! I hope most games will use FXAA from now on.

As long as it makes the game look better and not worse I'm all for it. But the beta already looked great, I hope FXAA does not make everything burry.

GTSaiyanjin2

From the pics, I'm guessing Epic is using the sharper settings from FXAA3. The default would have blurred the textures more on Dom's armour.

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]Didn't ND develop this? If so there's a little bit of Sony in Gears 3 :) Either way i cannot for this it looks amazing and Gears 2 looked quite good as well and this has had a tonne more polish and optimizing!!Phoenix534

FXAA is an Nvidia tech(If I remember correctly, which I'm 98% sure I am).

FXAA GLSL (OpenGL) shader source code from http://www.geeks3d.com/20110405/fxaa-fast-approximate-anti-aliasing-demo-glsl-opengl-test-radeon-geforce/3/

what the game gained in AA, definitly lost it in texture quality .... the armor is like a flat piece of metal with a sticker on it :? .

The females look so purty in the game.

what the game gained in AA, definitly lost it in texture quality .... the armor is like a flat piece of metal with a sticker on it :? .

omho88

It's just the effect of Epic getting rid of the uber shiny textures that plagued the Unreal Engine. The textures now have that Uncharted/Killzone look.

Why can't they just use simple AA? x4 AA looks amazing on any game.Fightingfan

Why can't they just use simple AA? x4 AA looks amazing on any game.Fightingfan

I don't care if it's a jaggy mess like Killzone 3, I just got back from pre ordering my copy 8)

[QUOTE="omho88"]

what the game gained in AA, definitly lost it in texture quality .... the armor is like a flat piece of metal with a sticker on it :? .

CorbraMax

It's just the effect of Epic getting rid of the uber shiny textures that plagued the Unreal Engine. The textures now have that Uncharted/Killzone look.

I played U2 and the textures looked like textures ..... not like painted with textures .:? .

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]Why can't they just use simple AA? x4 AA looks amazing on any game.slarkyslark

[QUOTE="slarkyslark"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]Why can't they just use simple AA? x4 AA looks amazing on any game.Fightingfan

You still see jaggies in 4XMSAA. Unreal Engine 3 breaks it anyway.

Another pic: Sub Pixel Aliasing on the lockers and on parts of the gun.(Like Killzone 3)

The AA also breaks on one part of the chair.

I'm not used to seeing a Unreal Engine game with impressive image quality. And I'm not just talking about base native resolution.

looks good but GOW3 is still superior

looks good but GOW3 is still superior

casharmy

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

looks good but GOW3 is still superior

slarkyslark

Your canned reply doesn't even make sense here. i'm not sure what you're trying to say.

GOW3 is still has be the best graphics ever seen on consoles and most impressive AA to date. You saying not sure if serious is kind of lul, are you serious with a reply like that?

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

looks good but GOW3 is still superior

CorbraMax

Well that's MLAA... But it does suffer from some minor shimmering. If we're talking graphics... Gears 3 has better lighting.

Over-all MLAA may suffer from shimmering but GOW3 specifically not so much, have you played it. but yeah Gears 3 does have some nice lighting

[QUOTE="CorbraMax"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

looks good but GOW3 is still superior

casharmy

Well that's MLAA... But it does suffer from some minor shimmering. If we're talking graphics... Gears 3 has better lighting.

Over-all MLAA may suffer from shimmering but GOW3 specifically not so much, have you played it. but yeah Gears 3 does have some nice lighting

I own it. Along with the god of War collection. It shimmers in a few parts. But that's because the art was made with MLAA in mind.

those are both bullshots

the game is going to have heaps of jaggies like the beta

those are both bullshots

the game is going to have heaps of jaggies like the beta

HaloinventedFPS

I'm afraid you don't know what a bullshot is. These pics definitely aren't bullshots.

[QUOTE="slarkyslark"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

looks good but GOW3 is still superior

casharmy

Your canned reply doesn't even make sense here. i'm not sure what you're trying to say.

GOW3 is still has be the best graphics ever seen on consoles and most impressive AA to date. You saying not sure if serious is kind of lul, are you serious with a reply like that?

Well, your comment was pretty silly. God of War 3 looked good overall, but is way overrated in my opinion. Uncharted 2 always looked a lot more impressive to me.

I guess I dont analyze my games this closely..seems kind of a waste of time?

I guess I dont analyze my games this closely..seems kind of a waste of time?

VanDammFan

It fooled someone into thinking it was a bullshot. It seems FXAA is working nicely.

Fallout 3 with 24x edge detect AA, eat that :D

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8316/falloutnv20101028034150.jpg

First screen looks like She-Hulk.

Fallout 3 with 24x edge detect AA, eat that :D

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8316/falloutnv20101028034150.jpg

forthelulzzz

Looks great

Dont see why the game needs FXAA the beta already looked great.

Gimme me my normal AA x4!silversix_

Yeah, with it's unbelievable RAM requirements under a Deferred Renderer and its massive performance hit to do 4xMSAA, not to mention the fact that it is completely and utterly broken in UE3 because UE3 does all of the post processing after it resolves the MSAA samples(thus undoing 95% of the work that the MSAA is doing).

Yeah, lets just sign right up for 4xMSAA despite the fact that it is a steaming pile of **** for a game that renders things the ways the Gears of War 3 is....

Looks amazing, what a great leap graphically from Gears Of War 2.

[QUOTE="silversix_"]Gimme me my normal AA x4!KingsMessenger

Yeah, with it's unbelievable RAM requirements under a Deferred Renderer and its massive performance hit to do 4xMSAA, not to mention the fact that it is completely and utterly broken in UE3 because UE3 does all of the post processing after it resolves the MSAA samples(thus undoing 95% of the work that the MSAA is doing).

Yeah, lets just sign right up for 4xMSAA despite the fact that it is a steaming pile of **** for a game that renders things the ways the Gears of War 3 is....

I don't care, I want it. Epic needs to hurry up and port the game onto PC.

I'm pretty sure my computer can do x64 AA on this game, no problem.

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="silversix_"]Gimme me my normal AA x4!ShadowDeathX

Yeah, with it's unbelievable RAM requirements under a Deferred Renderer and its massive performance hit to do 4xMSAA, not to mention the fact that it is completely and utterly broken in UE3 because UE3 does all of the post processing after it resolves the MSAA samples(thus undoing 95% of the work that the MSAA is doing).

Yeah, lets just sign right up for 4xMSAA despite the fact that it is a steaming pile of **** for a game that renders things the ways the Gears of War 3 is....

I don't care, I want it. Epic needs to hurry up and port the game onto PC.

I'm pretty sure my computer can do x64 AA on this game, no problem.

Sorry, they never ported it to the PC.

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="silversix_"]Gimme me my normal AA x4!ShadowDeathX

Yeah, with it's unbelievable RAM requirements under a Deferred Renderer and its massive performance hit to do 4xMSAA, not to mention the fact that it is completely and utterly broken in UE3 because UE3 does all of the post processing after it resolves the MSAA samples(thus undoing 95% of the work that the MSAA is doing).

Yeah, lets just sign right up for 4xMSAA despite the fact that it is a steaming pile of **** for a game that renders things the ways the Gears of War 3 is....

I don't care, I want it. Epic needs to hurry up and port the game onto PC.

I'm pretty sure my computer can do x64 AA on this game, no problem.

No. They switched to Deferred Rendering for Gears 3. The G-Buffer is large by default and is multiplied for ever MSAA sample that you use. As an example of a game where I KNOW the G-Buffer size... BF3 has an 18MB G-buffer at 1280x720. Running at 32xMSAA at 1920x1080(what you would presumably want to play at) would mean that the G-Buffer is 1.327GB of G-Buffer. Do 64xMSAA and it is 2.65GB of G-Buffer... Just in BUFFERS your game would be using nearly 3GB of VRAM. That is beyond stupid.

A video from epic doesnt tell much as they are known for always using higher quality than whats seen in game.killzowned24