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#1 DGZeus
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a showcase for the holiday season. X07 is when they will make major anouncements like they did last year. I hear about all this 08' is PS3's year what you didn't see in the MS press conference was the 08' lineup we know they have some big guns like Fable 2, Halo Wars, Too Human, Banjo, and maybe Gears 2. I wouldn't get caught up in the who won E3 anymore. If you really think about it the old cow argument of it's about the games is in play here, MS showed more games coming this year and almost all 3rd party games were shown on the 360 go figure. I would look for Sony and Ninty to do the same from this day foward E3 as we know it is done.
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#2 braydee1234
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When is X07 this year? I'm expecting a Halo 3 demo from it.
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#3 turaaggeli
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I hope they unload the big guns at X07 because if they won't then that would suck.
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#4 LegendofYaslint
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When is X07 this year? I'm expecting a Halo 3 demo from it.braydee1234

It's usually later in the year. Halo 3 will probably be in your hands before X07.

They better show Ninja Gaiden 2!!!

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#5 -Sir-Poof-
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Sony showeda crap load of games coming this year, did I watch the wrong conference or something?

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When is X07 this year? I'm expecting a Halo 3 demo from it.braydee1234

Bungie isn't going to have time to geta demo out before Halo 3 ships. After the game is released they might make a demo for it.

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Sony showeda crap load of games coming this year, did I watch the wrong conference or something?

-Sir-Poof-

Did they show Lair because I think I missed that part.

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I completely agree with what Moore said about Sony trying to focus on the future to hide the fact that their present isn't that hot. Hence why so many people here laugh at the "just wait..." slogan.
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Sony showeda crap load of games coming this year, did I watch the wrong conference or something?

-Sir-Poof-

Im pretty sure you did,Id say clost to half the stuff they really focused on was 08.

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I hope they unload the big guns at X07 because if they won't then that would suck.turaaggeli
I don't think they will they are playing a chess game with the other two, they will anounce a price drop or a combo pack, more games for 08' maybea fewfor 09', 65nm unit and that's about it.
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#11 DGZeus
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[QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]

Sony showeda crap load of games coming this year, did I watch the wrong conference or something?

deathtrap90

Im pretty sure you did,Id say clost to half the stuff they really focused on was 08.

I have to agree and thier really big gun MGS 4 (how many trailers are they going to make?) is an 08' titlle as well Killzone 2 is 08', this year they have Lair, HS, R&C (maybe), and Drake. What are they putting out to go against Halo 3 again?
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#12 desktopdefender
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Agreed

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#13 deactivated-61ff675e61178
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Sony didn't even show offhalf of the games they have for 08, let alone the ones not announced yet, like the next Team Ico game. The only 08 games they showed were MGS4, GT5, and Killzone 2.

Where was Tekken 6?
White Knight Story?
FFXIII?
FFVXIII
The Getaway?
Wardevil?
LA Noire?
8 Days?
etc. etc.

But they showed tons of 07 games:

R&C Future
Uncharted
Heavenly Sword
Lair
Warhawk
Socom
Folklore
UT3
Haze

Plus every multiplat game in the works.

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[QUOTE="deathtrap90"][QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]

Sony showeda crap load of games coming this year, did I watch the wrong conference or something?

DGZeus

Im pretty sure you did,Id say clost to half the stuff they really focused on was 08.

I have to agree and thier really big gun MGS 4 (how many trailers are they going to make?) is an 08' titlle as well Killzone 2 is 08', this year they have Lair, HS, R&C (maybe), and Drake. What are they putting out to go against Halo 3 again?


UT3 and Hazeare going up againstHalo, though nothing except a GT or a FF could really stop it.
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didnt they say their theme was right here right now?

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#16 project343
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When is X07 this year? I'm expecting a Halo 3 demo from it.braydee1234


Fall, typically.

I would expect Halo 3 to be out before X07.
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#17 Mikerules868
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[QUOTE="braydee1234"]When is X07 this year? I'm expecting a Halo 3 demo from it.project343


Fall, typically.

I would expect Halo 3 to be out before X07.

halo 3 comes out before x07 :S

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I completely agree with what Moore said about Sony trying to focus on the future to hide the fact that their present isn't that hot. Ninja-Vox

Yep, that pretty much nailed it.

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#19 DGZeus
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[QUOTE="DGZeus"][QUOTE="deathtrap90"][QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]

Sony showeda crap load of games coming this year, did I watch the wrong conference or something?

makingmusic476

Im pretty sure you did,Id say clost to half the stuff they really focused on was 08.

I have to agree and thier really big gun MGS 4 (how many trailers are they going to make?) is an 08' titlle as well Killzone 2 is 08', this year they have Lair, HS, R&C (maybe), and Drake. What are they putting out to go against Halo 3 again?


UT3 and Hazeare going up againstHalo, though nothing except a GT or a FF could really stop it.

You're right UT3 and Haze don't stand a chance. BTW a game going PC only helps MS since they want to push thier bread and butter Vista so all these guys going around saying a 360/PC game is not exclusive they don't know jack about MS if they ever turn a profit on Xbox it's a win for MS.
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When is X07 this year? I'm expecting a Halo 3 demo from it.braydee1234

Do you really think HALO needs a demo though, are there gamers out there that are gonna download it, saying to themselves.... "hmmmm..... some game called Halo3 is on the marketplace.... you want me to download it?", "Ummm, sure what kinda game is it?", "I dunno"

I dont think thats gonna happen. And if you're gonna buy Halo, is anyone really gonna say, "ahh.... I'm waiting for the demo, to make sure its a good game" ???

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#21 turaaggeli
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[QUOTE="turaaggeli"]I hope they unload the big guns at X07 because if they won't then that would suck.DGZeus
I don't think they will they are playing a chess game with the other two, they will anounce a price drop or a combo pack, more games for 08' maybea fewfor 09', 65nm unit and that's about it.

Well that was pretty much everything I thought they would announce at X07 :D A price drop, new games for 08 and 09. Those would be pretty much the big guns I was thinking about.
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#22 Wats_o
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This seems to be a fair assesment of the different strategys at E3, MS Showing games that will be available before the year is out And Sony Flexing their Future Power without a huge amount of focus on this year!MS now must show the next level of games at X07 to combat a quite impressive Sony schedule for 2008!
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#23 Steve_Ballmer
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Yes, that has been the plan. E3 was only to show off games coming out this year while for X07 we plan to announce games for next year. It just brings a tear to my eye thinking about all these great games that are being worked on by the developers that are greatly underappreciated. We can't stress enough how important developers are to this industry. We wouldn't have video games without them.
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you know what I wanankill all these annoyingly sad impersonaters....what do you do when you get home...do you think..Oh ill just go online and pretend I am soem famous bloke.
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#25 Acenso
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I completely agree with what Moore said about Sony trying to focus on the future to hide the fact that their present isn't that hot. Hence why so many people here laugh at the "just wait..." slogan.Ninja-Vox

Pretty much the winner...When is LBP again...Summer 08. FFXIII? Earliest is Summer 08(Most guess Winter 08), MGS4? March 08 earliest...Killzone...08 again...

If they focused on 07...What do we get? Reharsh Rachet and Clank? Heavenly Sword(Read the previews on gaf...Gameplay isn't all too good..most you see are the QTEs), Reharsh of Socom maps...A medicore Warhawks? In the middle of probably the greatest FPS season ever...Why waste money on an online only, 5maps, crap. Halo 3, COD4, Quake Wars, UT3, Half Life 2 Ep 2, Crysis, and quite a few more. And some Demos for GT and LBP...Great 07 season we have there

I left out Drake since I have to say that looks fantastic :oops:

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#26 Newnab
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X07 is certainely when we'll be more about 2008.

I expect Alan Wake, Too Human, Halo Wars, maybe even a Gears of War 2 announcement from X07, plus lotsa new games for us to be excited about which will make the PS3 fanboys a bit scared and feeling stupid for trying to convince themselves they've won in the future before seeing their opponents hand.

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#27 akif22
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they had so many great games for this year that they didn't need to mention 2008 at E3

i'm sure they'll have a great line-up .. resi 5 and banjo 3 already have be excited

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I completely agree with what Moore said about Sony trying to focus on the future to hide the fact that their present isn't that hot. Hence why so many people here laugh at the "just wait..." slogan.Ninja-Vox
What the hell? this month Ps3's got Ninja Gaiden,

  • August its lair and warhawk
  • September is Heavenly Sword
  • October games are Folklore, hotshots golf and ratchet and clank
  • November games are Uncharted, UT3, Haze and Time Crisis
  • Games that are coming this fall but no specific date: Socom and Wipeout HD

The way I see it their line-up is uber hot. And they also used E3 to promote their holiday line-up. From the interviews I read they are gonna use Liepzig and TGS to promote/anounce their 2008 titles like:

Wardevil, team ICO game, FF13, White Knight, 8 days, the getaway etc...

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[QUOTE="braydee1234"]When is X07 this year? I'm expecting a Halo 3 demo from it.Zandeus

Do you really think HALO needs a demo though, are there gamers out there that are gonna download it, saying to themselves.... "hmmmm..... some game called Halo3 is on the marketplace.... you want me to download it?", "Ummm, sure what kinda game is it?", "I dunno"

I dont think thats gonna happen. And if you're gonna buy Halo, is anyone really gonna say, "ahh.... I'm waiting for the demo, to make sure its a good game" ???

I didn't mean a demo on marketplace, I mean Frankie up on stage demoing it to the public.

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#30 WeeWeeJumbo
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I think you're completely right; MS' presence at E3 07 seems to reflect the changes to E3 itself. It's supposed to be closer to E3's original purpose, which is as an interface between makers and retailers. Why should retailers be concerned with product released more than a year from now? It makes for a much less exciting show if you're a game enthusiast thirsty for new info, but if your job is stocking shelves at GameStop, MS' approach is a better fit to the new E3. Sony used the old approach (Warm it all up! Everything you got! C'mon you apes--do you want to live forever?) and Nintendo wooed the mainstream, non-gaming press with non-games, sales charts, and self-aggrandisement.