Looks like Silicon Knights is finally dead. Remaining staff laid off.

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#1 runbleduck
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It's about time. Good riddance.

http://twitter.com/#!/JulianSpillane

The now former director at Silicon Knights confirmed it.

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#2 Pikachu69er
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:lol:

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#3 Tikeio
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:lol:

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#4 kris9031998
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It's about time. Good riddance.

http://twitter.com/#!/JulianSpillane

The now former director at Silicon Knights confirmed it.

runbleduck
Where does he say that? Anyways, it doesn't matter. They made mediocre games at best.
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#5 Blabadon
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Stinks that people lost their job. Hopefully they will be able to join better developers and make better games than the recent things they've made.

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#6 waltefmoney
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That was slow.

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#7 Ninja-Hippo
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Sad that people have lost their job, but it's hard to feel sorry for them as a company name. They've made crappy games this whole generation, and then sued Epic and tried to blame it all on them. And lost. Horribly. You reap what you sow.
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#8 SaltyMeatballs
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Took long enough. But no I am not happy about people losing their jobs.
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#9 Timstuff
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I wonder if they're selling the Eternal Darkness IP? I'd buy that for a dollar.
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I wonder if they're selling the Eternal Darkness IP? I'd buy that for a dollar.Timstuff
Nintendo has it I think, but no way they are going to bother with it after that game failed, helping in holding back Nintendo's ability to publish a first/second party M rated game.

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#11 freedomfreak
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Nothing of value was lost.

Shame for the people losing their jobs,tho.

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#12 xxxLUGZxxx
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I wonder if they're selling the Eternal Darkness IP? I'd buy that for a dollar.nintendoboy16

Nintendo has it I think, but no way they are going to bother with it after that game failed, helping in holding back Nintendo's ability to publish a first/second party M rated game.

How the **** did Eternal Darkness fail? It's one of the best games ever made. About the only one that really captured anything close to Cthulhu horror.

There needs to be either a direct or spirtual successor to Eternal Darkness, or gaming is dead to me. If CoD can muster up yearly DLC packs being sold at retail, then ED can certainly get some love in the sequel department.

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#13 spinecaton
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I loved Too Human and was secretly hoping that I would see a sequel... guess that will never come to be.

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#14 Zeviander
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Further proving taxpayer-funded development is a very bad idea.
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#15 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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I'm guessing I'm the only one who wanted to see a sequel to Too Human :(

And before you all laugh too hard :P consider that for all it's faults, if given the chance to take user feedback, the sequel could have been greatly improved. We've seen this happen in Assassin's Creed from 1 to 2, Mass Effect from 2 to 3 (ironically many of the changes in 2 were from taking player feedback of the first game).

They could have expanded the level variety, enemy variety, got rid of that infernal death animation (or at least made it skippable), and fine tuned the analog attack targeting, the sequel could have been a hack n' slash loot dropping paradise.

*edit* oh, I see I'm not the only one after all :)

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#16 gamefan67
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I guess we wont be seeing 2oo Human. Sucks.
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#17 Zeviander
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Nothing of value was lost.freedomfreak
Except the minds behind Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem no longer working together. Hopefully they can come together as an independent developer and perhaps put something in the same vein out the door.
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When is it ever right to laugh at people losing their jobs?:?
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#19 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Nothing of value was lost.Zeviander
Except the minds behind Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem no longer working together. Hopefully they can come together as an independent developer and perhaps put something in the same vein out the door.

Maybe.

I was just referring to this gen.

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#20 tagyhag
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Isn't he just saying that he got laid off?
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Nothing of value was lost.Zeviander
Except the minds behind Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem no longer working together. Hopefully they can come together as an independent developer and perhaps put something in the same vein out the door.

Yeah, those minds certainly blew us away with titles like too human and x-men destiny.
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To bad for the people losing their jobs, but we won't miss much, they made average games at best and I was tricked several times in buying their games (Too human, eternal darkness) which I end up disliking

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I'm guessing I'm the only one who wanted to see a sequel to Too Human :(

And before you all laugh too hard :P consider that for all it's faults, if given the chance to take user feedback, the sequel could have been greatly improved. We've seen this happen in Assassin's Creed from 1 to 2, Mass Effect from 2 to 3 (ironically many of the changes in 2 were from taking player feedback of the first game).

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I think it is one of the games this gen that could have really used a sequel to show what it was actually capable of after feedback from the first one. I enjoyed it more than I have a certain other dungeon crawler on PC, but I think I might be alone in that sentiment.

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Yeah, those minds certainly blew us away with titles like too human and x-men destiny. MFDOOM1983
Being good with one genre =/= Good with every genre
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I wonder if they're selling the Eternal Darkness IP? I'd buy that for a dollar.xxxLUGZxxx

Nintendo has it I think, but no way they are going to bother with it after that game failed, helping in holding back Nintendo's ability to publish a first/second party M rated game.

How the **** did Eternal Darkness fail? It's one of the best games ever made. About the only one that really captured anything close to Cthulhu horror.

There needs to be either a direct or spirtual successor to Eternal Darkness, or gaming is dead to me. If CoD can muster up yearly DLC packs being sold at retail, then ED can certainly get some love in the sequel department.

Might want to see these sales numbers.

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#26 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="xxxLUGZxxx"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Nintendo has it I think, but no way they are going to bother with it after that game failed, helping in holding back Nintendo's ability to publish a first/second party M rated game.

nintendoboy16

How the **** did Eternal Darkness fail? It's one of the best games ever made. About the only one that really captured anything close to Cthulhu horror.

There needs to be either a direct or spirtual successor to Eternal Darkness, or gaming is dead to me. If CoD can muster up yearly DLC packs being sold at retail, then ED can certainly get some love in the sequel department.

Might want to see these sales numbers.

That must be outdated, because according to VG Chartz (which is the semi-official numbers site of System Wars) it sold 440,000 copies. It might not sound like a lot today, but the sales were considered decent at the time, especially on a system with a much smaller userbase than its competitors and a notorious focus on children as its primary market.

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#27 Eponique
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When is it ever right to laugh at people losing their jobs?:?GulliversTravel
When they've spent years wasting millions of dollars in tax payer's money it becomes okay.

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#28 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="xxxLUGZxxx"]

How the **** did Eternal Darkness fail? It's one of the best games ever made. About the only one that really captured anything close to Cthulhu horror.

There needs to be either a direct or spirtual successor to Eternal Darkness, or gaming is dead to me. If CoD can muster up yearly DLC packs being sold at retail, then ED can certainly get some love in the sequel department.

Timstuff

Might want to see these sales numbers.

That must be outdated, because according to VG Chartz (which is the offical numbers site of System Wars?) it sold 440,000 copies. It might not sound like a lot today (now if a game doesn't sell more than 2 million copies the developer usually closes), the sales were considered decent at the time, especially on a system with a small userbase and a notorious focus on children.

You know, there's a reason they say "lolVGChartz".

The amount of children involved with the GameCube is no excuse when games like REmake and RE4 sold hell of a lot better, especially when RE4 came out at a time when the GameCube was in it's worst.

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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Yeah, those minds certainly blew us away with titles like too human and x-men destiny. Zeviander
Being good with one genre =/= Good with every genre

Made good games 10 years ago =/= Still have the talent to make good games
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#30 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Might want to see these sales numbers.

nintendoboy16

That must be outdated, because according to VG Chartz (which is the offical numbers site of System Wars?) it sold 440,000 copies. It might not sound like a lot today (now if a game doesn't sell more than 2 million copies the developer usually closes), the sales were considered decent at the time, especially on a system with a small userbase and a notorious focus on children.

You know, there's a reason they say "lolVGChartz". The amount of children involved with the GameCube is no excuse when games REmake and RE4 sold hell of a lot better.

You seem to forget that Resident Evil is one of the industry's biggest franchises. Of course those two games were going to sell a lot more than a game no-one had even heard of, but that doesn't make Eternal Darkness's 440k sales "pathetic" as you claim.

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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

That must be outdated, because according to VG Chartz (which is the offical numbers site of System Wars?) it sold 440,000 copies. It might not sound like a lot today (now if a game doesn't sell more than 2 million copies the developer usually closes), the sales were considered decent at the time, especially on a system with a small userbase and a notorious focus on children.

Timstuff

You know, there's a reason they say "lolVGChartz". The amount of children involved with the GameCube is no excuse when games REmake and RE4 sold hell of a lot better.

You seem to forget that Resident Evil is one of the industry's biggest franchises. Of course REmake was going to sell better.

Lots of the industries biggest franchises didn't sell on GameCube, like Metal Gear Solid. Resident Evil was an exception.

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I loved Too Human and was secretly hoping that I would see a sequel... guess that will never come to be.

spinecaton

Cosign, Too Human was awesome, wish we got a sequel. VERY VERY underrated game.

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#33 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]You know, there's a reason they say "lolVGChartz". The amount of children involved with the GameCube is no excuse when games REmake and RE4 sold hell of a lot better.

You seem to forget that Resident Evil is one of the industry's biggest franchises. Of course REmake was going to sell better.

Lot's of the industries biggest franchises didn't sell on GameCube, Resident Evil was an exception.

Which is why I'd like to know why you think that ED was a sales failure, even though it sold a lot more than most M-rated games released on the system.
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Dyack has been owned.

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#35 skrat_01
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It's about time. Good riddance.

runbleduck
People lost their jobs and are out of work. Yay? =\
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]You seem to forget that Resident Evil is one of the industry's biggest franchises. Of course REmake was going to sell better.Timstuff
Lot's of the industries biggest franchises didn't sell on GameCube, Resident Evil was an exception.

Which is why I'd like to know why you think that ED was a sales failure, even though it sold a lot more than most M-rated games released on the system.

It was published by Nintendo, they usually expect at least a million or so from their games. Those were the kind of sales they got from Rare's Perfect Dark (which was a new IP at the time) on N64, their only M rated success.

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#37 TheFallenDemon
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[QUOTE="runbleduck"]

It's about time. Good riddance.

skrat_01

People lost their jobs and are out of work. Yay? =\


if they make bad games they deserve to be unable to support themselves or family for a while

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#38 runbleduck
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[QUOTE="runbleduck"]

It's about time. Good riddance.

skrat_01
People lost their jobs and are out of work. Yay? =\

People are entitled to their jobs despite spending ridiculous number of years and tons of money from taxpayers to produce terrible games?
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#39 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Lot's of the industries biggest franchises didn't sell on GameCube, Resident Evil was an exception.nintendoboy16

Which is why I'd like to know why you think that ED was a sales failure, even though it sold a lot more than most M-rated games released on the system.

It was published by Nintendo, they usually expect at least a million or so from their games. Those were the kind of sales they got from Rare's Perfect Dark (which was a new IP at the time) on N64, their only M rated success.

Perfect Dark had a ridiculous amount of hype, and it was from Rare. Eternal Darkness was from a developer that no-one had heard of, and there was virtually no marketing for the game. And yet, it still managed to sell almost half a million copies. Nintendo did not get anything less from Eternal Darkness than what they had put into it.
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="runbleduck"]

It's about time. Good riddance.

runbleduck
People lost their jobs and are out of work. Yay? =\

People are entitled to their jobs despite spending ridiculous number of years and tons of money from taxpayers to produce terrible games?

They produced Enternal Darkness which was excellent. Too Human and the outright stupid PR, then suing Epic pulled them under. A studio laying off staff isn't good news in any sense. 'Hooray people lost their jobs in a climate that's rough for industry jobs, aren't I a great person'. Different to 'whelp they made some bad decisions'.
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Yes people, let's laugh at the fact that people have lost their jobs and their means of financial income. Even Hitler would find this tasteless.
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Which is why I'd like to know why you think that ED was a sales failure, even though it sold a lot more than most M-rated games released on the system.Timstuff

It was published by Nintendo, they usually expect at least a million or so from their games. Those were the kind of sales they got from Rare's Perfect Dark (which was a new IP at the time) on N64, their only M rated success.

Perfect Dark had a ridiculous amount of hype, and it was from Rare. Eternal Darkness was from a developer that no-one had heard of, and there was virtually no marketing for the game. And yet, it still managed to sell almost half a million copies. Nintendo did not get anything less from Eternal Darkness than what they had put into it.

No one heard of Silicon Knights? Wasn't Legacy of Kain, a PC/PS1 game popular?

Still, even if Perfect Dark had more hype, you know it's bad news when Nintendo can't get a million copies of the game to sell unlike the last time and get outcIassed by third parties like Capcom (Resident Evil) and Activision (True Crime, though only Streets of LA sold well). Hell, I even think MK: Deadly Alliance and Deception on GameCube did better and that was when Mortal Kombat was in a rut with gamers.

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NO!! Eternal Darkness 2 was only canceled, wonder is Nintendo will get another team to finish the game.
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#44 Seabas989
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To hink Eternal Darkenss was released 10 years ago. :(

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#45 runbleduck
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let's not forget that Eternal Darkenss was a mess that went overbudget and delayed numerous times (over 4 years in production), only to have Nintendo step in and spoon feed them and take over the rest of the development. Silicon Knights were nothing more than code monkeys doing grunt work at best, which was further exemplified by their follow up project. Even then, twin snakes ended up looking and performing worse than mgs2.
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Yes people, let's laugh at the fact that people have lost their jobs and their means of financial income. Even Hitler would find this tasteless.drinkerofjuice

SW: full of immature people.

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#47 runbleduck
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[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"]Yes people, let's laugh at the fact that people have lost their jobs and their means of financial income. Even Hitler would find this tasteless.

yes, let's continue to reward people doing terrible jobs by letting them keep their jobs. Also, why bother showing up at work and doing your job at all if you're entitled to the job anyway? The checks will continue to come in either way.
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I loved Too Human and was secretly hoping that I would see a sequel... guess that will never come to be.

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Same situation here. This sucks. :(
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[QUOTE="runbleduck"][QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"]Yes people, let's laugh at the fact that people have lost their jobs and their means of financial income. Even Hitler would find this tasteless.

yes, let's continue to reward people doing terrible jobs by letting them keep their jobs. Also, why bother showing up at work and doing your job at all if you're entitled to the job anyway? The checks will continue to come in either way.

Do you have any idea on how s*** the economy is right now?
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#50 runbleduck
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="runbleduck"][QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"]Yes people, let's laugh at the fact that people have lost their jobs and their means of financial income. Even Hitler would find this tasteless.

yes, let's continue to reward people doing terrible jobs by letting them keep their jobs. Also, why bother showing up at work and doing your job at all if you're entitled to the job anyway? The checks will continue to come in either way.

Do you have any idea on how s*** the economy is right now?

so that makes it ok to do an piss poor job, let alone not showing up to do any work at all? Let me guess, you're one of those entitled employee who throws an temper tantrum when your boss dares to fire you for not doing your job at all.