Looks like the PS3 could be the biggest flop ever

I mean even when Nintendo lost dominance they went from 50 million to 32 million sold. That's like a 30% decrease. I think its pretty obvious that the PS3 isn't going to sell more then 30-35 million at this point. 120 million to 30 million is probably the worst drop ever generation to generation.

Of course this is all wild speculation but I am pretty confident in my predictions.

Ok, well, microsoft made some critical mistakes with the 360 at fiirst, but, it wasn't too bad.  They were still able to get everyone excited about it and have a great E3 later.

Sony, to me, has made just as bad mstakes, but the thing is, they won't stop.  I'm flattered the ps3 is Blu Ray and all, but really, I never watch movies at home.  It should have been an add on.  I used to back up the ps3, but now, it's turned me off very quickly.

right now its still alive so its not a flop . but they do have it bad this rounf deadmeat59

I dont think its going to die its just going to be the biggest drop in market share ever. Disasterous for Sony.

    120 million units would be hard for an unopposed system in the current climate to equal. 120 million for a company with two solid competitors (360 and Wii) is downright impossible, so by your logic the PS3 was guaranteed to fail this generation.

    The PS3 has plenty of life, and many years left to go in it. Calling it a flop now would be short-sighted at best. It will sell, it will have great games, and it will cull and maintain a fanbase, just like the other 2 systems will do. 

I think the PS3 will be one of the Business Study lessons that will be in Business courses.Zaistev_basic

That would be too funny. 

    120 million units would be hard for an unopposed system in the current climate to equal. 120 million for a company with two solid competitors (360 and Wii) is downright impossible, so by your logic the PS3 was guaranteed to fail this generation.

    The PS3 has plenty of life, and many years left to go in it. Calling it a flop now would be short-sighted at best. It will sell, it will have great games, and it will cull and maintain a fanbase, just like the other 2 systems will do. 

SpruceCaboose

There have been what? 6-7 console generations? This is going to be the biggest loss of market share ever. I never expected it to sell like the PS2 did but not this bad.

Its going to be a great system with great games an I will be getting one sometime but I am talking in purely financial terms here.

If more multiplatform games exist between 360 and PS3.........then PS3 is finish. There's no argument there. Exclusives are what drives console sales, not just variety of games.

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120 million units would be hard for an unopposed system in the current climate to equal. 120 million for a company with two solid competitors (360 and Wii) is downright impossible, so by your logic the PS3 was guaranteed to fail this generation.

The PS3 has plenty of life, and many years left to go in it. Calling it a flop now would be short-sighted at best. It will sell, it will have great games, and it will cull and maintain a fanbase, just like the other 2 systems will do.

TOAO_Cyrus1

There have been what? 6-7 console generations? This is going to be the biggest loss of market share ever. I never expected it to sell like the PS2 did but not this bad.

Its going to be a great system with great games an I will be getting one sometime but I am talking in purely financial terms here.

    This is the 7th home system generation.

    The PS2 is easily the most successful home system made to date, and without gaming as a medium hitting a growth-spurt, I expect that the PS2 might well be the most successful single home unit ever produced.

    So, no, its easy to guess that that the PS3 would suffer a drop in sales, especially after doubling the PS2's price. The question should not be whether or not it equals sales of the PS2 (which it won't), but can it top the 360 and Wii (maybe) or even, could the PS3 make Sony money? (almost certainly yes)

I think the PS3 will be one of the Business Study lessons that will be in Business courses.Zaistev_basic

yea. it's going to be called "how not to run your business into the ground 101". 

ever?
I think that accolade belongs to the Atari Jaguar, maybe the 3DO...orangeonxbox

I am talking in terms of market share lost. The 5200 or whatever came before the Jaguar didnt sell well either.

A PS3 price drop will end this all.PSP107

Price drops didnt help the nintendo 64/xbox/gamecube/dreamcast and many others. In fact I cant think of a single console that was saved by a price drop.

Mmmm.....I dont think PS3 will flop. Sure, it wont match the PS2 in sales, but that will be a feat only the Wii has a chance of doing. jfkunrendered

    I would highly doubt any of the three gets past 100 million, let along 120 million. 

[QUOTE="PSP107"]A PS3 price drop will end this all.TOAO_Cyrus1

The N64/xbox/gc/dreamcast  wasnt part of the PS brand.

Price drops didnt help the nintendo 64/xbox/gamecube/dreamcast and many others. In fact I cant think of a single console that was saved by a price drop.

[QUOTE="PSP107"]A PS3 price drop will end this all.TOAO_Cyrus1

Price drops didnt help the nintendo 64/xbox/gamecube/dreamcast and many others. In fact I cant think of a single console that was saved by a price drop.

    Mainstream systems have also never sold above $300 before either.

    History has shown that systems sell their best at or around $200. If the PS3 could at least get to $400, you would see the whole market shift. The issue is if Sony can get that low, and at what cost to profits. 

A PS3 price drop will end this all.PSP107

a price drop will end the ps3 and sony's gaming division once and for all. they're still taking a $200 loss per console. if they drop the price, that'll be freaking suicide. they will not drop the price for another year and a half. deal with it. 

[QUOTE="Zaistev_basic"]I think the PS3 will be one of the Business Study lessons that will be in Business courses.latinrage69

yea. it's going to be called "how not to run your business into the ground 101". 

Followed by "Pricing Yourself Out of the Market 105"

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[QUOTE="Zaistev_basic"]I think the PS3 will be one of the Business Study lessons that will be in Business courses.GrlGmr

yea. it's going to be called "how not to run your business into the ground 101".

Followed by "Pricing Yourself Out of the Market 105"

and my personal favorite, "talking out of your ass 210" taught by ken kuturai in 4D.

1 of the many resons of why the PS3 will outsell xflop360

the "playstation" name alone... will make PS3 sell more units than xflop360

thats a FACT 

1 of the many resons of why the PS3 will outsell xflop360

the "playstation" name alone... will make PS3 sell more units than xflop360

thats a FACT

LawLo_O

if it's such a fact, then why is it in last place?

ban-dodge much? 

[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

[QUOTE="PSP107"]A PS3 price drop will end this all.SpruceCaboose

Price drops didnt help the nintendo 64/xbox/gamecube/dreamcast and many others. In fact I cant think of a single console that was saved by a price drop.

    Mainstream systems have also never sold above $300 before either.

    History has shown that systems sell their best at or around $200. If the PS3 could at least get to $400, you would see the whole market shift. The issue is if Sony can get that low, and at what cost to profits. 

I dont remember the PS1 situation but the PS2 sold well with its $300 price range. 

1 of the many resons of why the PS3 will outsell xflop360

the "playstation" name alone... will make PS3 sell more units than xflop360

thats a FACT

LawLo_O

    Why hasn't it happened yet then? 

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

[QUOTE="PSP107"]A PS3 price drop will end this all.PSP107

Price drops didnt help the nintendo 64/xbox/gamecube/dreamcast and many others. In fact I cant think of a single console that was saved by a price drop.

Mainstream systems have also never sold above $300 before either.

History has shown that systems sell their best at or around $200. If the PS3 could at least get to $400, you would see the whole market shift. The issue is if Sony can get that low, and at what cost to profits.

I dont remember the PS1 situation but the PS2 sold well with its $300 price range.

    Sold well, yes. It sold more units at and below $200 than at $300 though. 

[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

[QUOTE="PSP107"]A PS3 price drop will end this all.SpruceCaboose

Price drops didnt help the nintendo 64/xbox/gamecube/dreamcast and many others. In fact I cant think of a single console that was saved by a price drop.

    Mainstream systems have also never sold above $300 before either.

    History has shown that systems sell their best at or around $200. If the PS3 could at least get to $400, you would see the whole market shift. The issue is if Sony can get that low, and at what cost to profits. 

A price drop would have to come very soon for that to work. There is no chance of it being less then 400$ before christmass 2008 IMO. By then the 360 will be 200$ and the wii something a bit less.

I understand that some gamers and cows believe that PS3 can pull it through. However, they seem to underestimate the $600 price tag impact on PS3. Consumers see PS3 as a GAMING CONSOLE and not a media hub. Even if big hitters comes out, the reality of the $600 price tag won't go away considering that you can buy 2 alternative consoles with games on it for each. This is the reality of PS3. How can you really try to sell a $600 console regardless of the unnecessary add-on that is already intergated in that price? The only option that I see PS3 can pull it through their PS2 mess is to price drop to XBox 360 Elite level or better premium ASAP. The longer they wait, the faster their failure be assured.Zaistev_basic

Yeah from my experience people dont want are care about a "media hub". They just buy bits and pieces when they are cheap and when they want them.

[QUOTE="Zaistev_basic"]I understand that some gamers and cows believe that PS3 can pull it through. However, they seem to underestimate the $600 price tag impact on PS3. Consumers see PS3 as a GAMING CONSOLE and not a media hub. Even if big hitters comes out, the reality of the $600 price tag won't go away considering that you can buy 2 alternative consoles with games on it for each. This is the reality of PS3. How can you really try to sell a $600 console regardless of the unnecessary add-on that is already intergated in that price? The only option that I see PS3 can pull it through their PS2 mess is to price drop to XBox 360 Elite level or better premium ASAP. The longer they wait, the faster their failure be assured.TOAO_Cyrus1

Yeah from my experience people dont want are care about a "media hub". They just buy bits and pieces when they are cheap and when they want them.

or they buy a media center pc. 

[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

[QUOTE="Zaistev_basic"]I understand that some gamers and cows believe that PS3 can pull it through. However, they seem to underestimate the $600 price tag impact on PS3. Consumers see PS3 as a GAMING CONSOLE and not a media hub. Even if big hitters comes out, the reality of the $600 price tag won't go away considering that you can buy 2 alternative consoles with games on it for each. This is the reality of PS3. How can you really try to sell a $600 console regardless of the unnecessary add-on that is already intergated in that price? The only option that I see PS3 can pull it through their PS2 mess is to price drop to XBox 360 Elite level or better premium ASAP. The longer they wait, the faster their failure be assured.latinrage69

Yeah from my experience people dont want are care about a "media hub". They just buy bits and pieces when they are cheap and when they want them.

or they buy a media center pc. 

Exactly, PC has been a media hub ever since the release of PS2.

[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

[QUOTE="Zaistev_basic"]I understand that some gamers and cows believe that PS3 can pull it through. However, they seem to underestimate the $600 price tag impact on PS3. Consumers see PS3 as a GAMING CONSOLE and not a media hub. Even if big hitters comes out, the reality of the $600 price tag won't go away considering that you can buy 2 alternative consoles with games on it for each. This is the reality of PS3. How can you really try to sell a $600 console regardless of the unnecessary add-on that is already intergated in that price? The only option that I see PS3 can pull it through their PS2 mess is to price drop to XBox 360 Elite level or better premium ASAP. The longer they wait, the faster their failure be assured.latinrage69

Yeah from my experience people dont want are care about a "media hub". They just buy bits and pieces when they are cheap and when they want them.

or they buy a media center pc. 

Even those dont sell that great.

I agree, and also the world will end Q4, aliens will come 2008 Q2, Bill Gates clones himself and populates the world 2009 Q1.NobuoMusicMaker

that is about a stupid as a man who just got voted for the worlds stupideds man in the country of stupiditron  

TOAO_Cyrus1 so you saying the ps3 will be worster than the dreamcast and gamecube  do you know the future  do you have facts that the ps3 won't make a comback in the future also do you make that nintendo will the 360 and carrying lead all the way to finish i want prove you know to know going to happen in holday 07, 08, etc etc etcTnasty11

No I am saying the PS3 will lose way more market share then the Gamecube or Dreamcast ever did. Going from complete market dominance to a distant last place is much worse then going from distant second to just barily third (ala gamecube). The Dreamcast was a last gasp from a company that had been losing for four generations in a row. Sony made some huge mistakes and now they are paying the price.

My original post says its all speculation but I think everyone knows deep down that I am right.

and  who says they can't turn it around Tnasty11

Highly unlikely but not impossible I suppose.

everyone said was impossible for nintendo to make comback but they didTnasty11

Which has no baring at all on the chances for the PS3. Of course I ahve no proof I am making an informed prediction.

1 of the many resons of why the PS3 will outsell xflop360

the "playstation" name alone... will make PS3 sell more units than xflop360

thats a FACT

LawLo_O