Lord and savior John Carmack has spoken; No doom4 for consoles; Strelok

Considering the boost Mantle could give to a steambox, MS and Sony may wind up being downright hostile to it.
John Carmack (@ID_AA_Carmack) September 26, 2013

If you just port code that is efficient on GL or DX to a nativeish api, the per gain will be small. The win would be in allowing archs ...
John Carmack (@ID_AA_Carmack) September 26, 2013

... that aren't possible at all now, like continuous simultaneous use of buffers by both CPUs and GPUs. In some situations, this can be big.
John Carmack (@ID_AA_Carmack) September 26, 2013

I won't be writing any Mantle code in the near future, since I'm not working on consoles now. OpenGL for PC, mac, linux, and mobile.
John Carmack (@ID_AA_Carmack) September 26, 2013

No doom4 for consoles in the near future confirmed. John Carmack has spoken.

Discuss

EDIT:

John Goodman respects John Carmack. Rosanne Bar worked with John Goodman. Roseanne is an abomination from Chernobyl. Therefore, John Carmack is Strelok. We have found Strelok.

Not getting DOOM is just a shotgun shell to the skull for consoles.

Not getting DOOM is just a shotgun shell to the skull for consoles.

Lumpy311

DOOM hasn't been relevant for a long time now.

I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I'd rather have RAGE 2 or something new.

So it might actually be decent now, nice.

loldoom, is this what hermits have been reduced toRR360DD

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/doom-3

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/doom-ii

Get wrecked, consolite.

Not getting DOOM is just a shotgun shell to the skull for consoles.

Lumpy311

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Not getting DOOM is just a shotgun shell to the skull for consoles.

R4gn4r0k

DOOM hasn't been relevant for a long time now.

I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I'd rather have RAGE 2 or something new.

But DOOM is great, i'm counting on a AAA game this time around, Doom 3 almost made it there.

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Not getting DOOM is just a shotgun shell to the skull for consoles.

stereointegrity

Because it's Doom and everyone loves Doom.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]loldoom, is this what hermits have been reduced toLumpy311

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/doom-3

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/doom-ii

Get wrecked, consolite.

20 year old Doom 2 :lol:

just as I though, irrelevant LOL

loldoom, is this what hermits have been reduced toRR360DD

Reduced to more games and exclusive (AA and above) than consoles every gen?

I do not mind! 

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Not getting DOOM is just a shotgun shell to the skull for consoles.

Lumpy311

Because it's Doom and everyone loves Doom.

But DOOM is great, i'm counting on a AAA game this time around, Doom 3 almost made it there.

Lumpy311

It sure was great, influenced many other games and I think Doom 2 was one of the very first multiplayer FPS.

But I really didn't like Doom III, it felt so weak compared to other FPS released at that time: Half Life 2 and Far Cry. Those games are still getting praise, while Doom 3 is long forgotten.

I'm with Lumpy on this one. A new Doom game would be awesome, and I think ID would be smart to do a PC release first, then port to consoles later. 

Not getting DOOM is just a shotgun shell to the skull for consoles.

Lumpy311

Yeah because Doom 3 and Rage sold so well and was just such a blast to play... I tell you what, why don't you and and the rest of lame hermit buddies go start a petition to keep ID's garbage off of consoles; I think in the end, we'll all get what we want...!!!;)

Honestly can't say I care.

I could care less about Doom. I never even finished Doom 3 and I was playing that game on the PC.

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Not getting DOOM is just a shotgun shell to the skull for consoles.

MoneySha

Yeah because Doom 3 and Rage sold so well and was just such a blast to play... I tell you what, why don't you and and the rest of lame hermit buddies go start a petition to keep IDs garbage off of consoles; I think in the end, we'll all get what we want...!!!;)

But Rage is garbage, Doom is great.  I tell you what, get you and the rest of your 10 year old buddies and go start another petition to keep the superior version of GTA V from coming :lol:

Looks like I won't be playing it.

They could still outsource a port, surely?

They could still outsource a port, surely?

dommeus

Only the master race should get Doom 4.

Good. Maybe it won't suck like Doom 3 and Rage then.

He's not the only grpahics programmer at id. The stuff he works is engine work and algorithms that can be translated to a lot of hardware.

He's not the only grpahics programmer at id. The stuff he works is engine work and algorithms that can be translated to a lot of hardware.

Wasdie

Don't ruin the consolite ownage, wasdie.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

He's not the only grpahics programmer at id. The stuff he works is engine work and algorithms that can be translated to a lot of hardware.

Lumpy311

Don't ruin the consolite ownage, wasdie.

Consolite ownage? I don't play sides here.

It's unfortunate that Doom 3 was released in 2004.

Halo 2, Half-Life 2, Far Cry--three superb shooters released in the same year that made Doom 3 look like nothing more than a glorified tech demo.

Point being, the Doom series isn't relevant to gaming anymore. 

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

He's not the only grpahics programmer at id. The stuff he works is engine work and algorithms that can be translated to a lot of hardware.

Wasdie

Don't ruin the consolite ownage, wasdie.

Consolite ownage? I don't play sides here.

I didn't say you did, but you don't have to ruin my happiness, do you?

It's unfortunate that Doom 3 was released in 2004.

Halo 2, Half-Life 2, Far Cry--three superb shooters released in the same year that made Doom 3 look like nothing more than a glorified tech demo.

Point being, the Doom series isn't relevant to gaming anymore. 

princeofshapeir

Doom 3 launched in a really bad year, i agree.

But hopefully, Doom will bring a AAA game and will make the series relevant again.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Don't ruin the consolite ownage, wasdie.

Lumpy311

Consolite ownage? I don't play sides here.

I didn't say you did, but you don't have to ruin my happiness, do you?

Yes I do. That's my real reason for being here. I'm the no fun police.

When it sells 5 copies because everyone just downloads it for free on PC, it will be on consoles. Carmack will have to beg forgiveness from the consolites, but I'm sure they will pardon such an amateur move, by such a revered professional.

Now hold on everyone, he never said anything about the Wii U.

There's still hope.

can someone elaborate on this quote? I thought the API was for PC since Sony has their own custom APIs based on openGL and stuff.

"won't be writing any Mantle code in the near future, since I'm not working on consoles now"

DiakatanaJakandsigz

Hahaha I remember that. Oh dear. 

That was Ion Storm, John Romero formerly of ID - he left in '96. 

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]loldoom, is this what hermits have been reduced toRR360DD

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/doom-3

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/doom-ii

Get wrecked, consolite.

20 year old Doom 2 :lol:

just as I though, irrelevant LOL

Hey... pssst... http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/grand-theft-auto-v

your sig is stupid... AND it's wrong... or you could say it's "irrelevant" :lol:

[QUOTE="MoneySha"]

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Not getting DOOM is just a shotgun shell to the skull for consoles.

Lumpy311

Yeah because Doom 3 and Rage sold so well and was just such a blast to play... I tell you what, why don't you and and the rest of lame hermit buddies go start a petition to keep IDs garbage off of consoles; I think in the end, we'll all get what we want...!!!;)

But Rage is garbage, Doom is great. I tell you what, get you and the rest of your 10 year old buddies and go start another petition to keep the superior version of GTA V from coming :lol:

Why would I care about petitioning that game from PC "beggars"...??? You people whinned and bitched like little girls to get that game, I think it's only fair you have it; Nobody likes to see grown men cry! Besides, by the time the PC beggars get that game, console surpremist would have moved on to something else new and better... You hermits are like hobos or trolls; rummaging and scratching around in the dark, waiting for me to toss out my trash and left-overs so you can pick through it and find some usefulness with it or something... Well, have fun with my apple cores! :lol: After all, you should be more grateful, Beggar!!!

I bet it won't even come to PC. I can't see that game making the light of day

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="MoneySha"]

 

Yeah because Doom 3 and Rage sold so well and was just such a blast to play... I tell you what, why don't you and and the rest of lame hermit buddies go start a petition to keep IDs garbage off of consoles; I think in the end, we'll all get what we want...!!!;)

MoneySha

But Rage is garbage, Doom is great. I tell you what, get you and the rest of your 10 year old buddies and go start another petition to keep the superior version of GTA V from coming :lol:

Why would I care about petitioning that game from PC "beggars"...??? You people whinned and bitched like little girls to get that game, I think it's only fair you have it; Nobody likes to see grown men cry! Besides, by the time the PC beggars get that game, console surpremist would have moved on to something else new and better... You hermits are like hobos or trolls; rummaging and scratching around in the dark, waiting for me to toss out my trash and left-overs so you can pick through it and find some usefulness with it or something... Well, have fun with my apple cores! :lol: After all, you should be more grateful, Beggar!!!

http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/08/14/9-pc-games-we-want-on-ps4/

Sorry, can't hear you over your official begging. I bet you're gonna have lots of fun with the years old Minecraft that is coming out just now on the PS4, and still as a gimped version.

Finally, the hermits get a decent exclusive TheKingIAm

id's glory days are long behind them, just let it die already.

Now hold on everyone, he never said anything about the Wii U.

There's still hope.

PhazonBlazer

[QUOTE="TheKingIAm"]Finally, the hermits get a decent exclusive superclocked

[QUOTE="MoneySha"]

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

But Rage is garbage, Doom is great. I tell you what, get you and the rest of your 10 year old buddies and go start another petition to keep the superior version of GTA V from coming :lol:

Lumpy311

Why would I care about petitioning that game from PC "beggars"...??? You people whinned and bitched like little girls to get that game, I think it's only fair you have it; Nobody likes to see grown men cry! Besides, by the time the PC beggars get that game, console surpremist would have moved on to something else new and better... You hermits are like hobos or trolls; rummaging and scratching around in the dark, waiting for me to toss out my trash and left-overs so you can pick through it and find some usefulness with it or something... Well, have fun with my apple cores! :lol: After all, you should be more grateful, Beggar!!!

http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/08/14/9-pc-games-we-want-on-ps4/

Sorry, can't hear you over your official begging. I bet you're gonna have lots of fun with the years old Minecraft that is coming out just now on the PS4, and still as a gimped version.

What begging? That's one magazine and one author's opinion... Sorry, I don't see a mass petition.

Doom would be welcome in the current age of MMS