Lost Odyssey better Watch out Square and Level 5, The Megaton.

[QUOTE="Gallion-Beast"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="Prid3r"]

All that made SE glory are now part of mistwalker . Lost odyssey look sweet ....... and epic ^^

goblaa

So funny how as soon Sakaguchi left, FF games have been crap compared to the older ones.

FF7 was a pretty large step backwards for FF. It just did't compare to 6. The only good thing FF7 did was jump to 3D and sell a whole lot. It wasn't a bad game, it just did'nt meet the high standards of 1-6.

High standards?yeahhh...right.

[QUOTE="Gallion-Beast"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="Prid3r"]

All that made SE glory are now part of mistwalker . Lost odyssey look sweet ....... and epic ^^

goblaa

So funny how as soon Sakaguchi left, FF games have been crap compared to the older ones.

FF7 was a pretty large step backwards for FF. It just did't compare to 6. The only good thing FF7 did was jump to 3D and sell a whole lot. It wasn't a bad game, it just did'nt meet the high standards of 1-6.

iirc, in the gametrailer FF retrospective series, they mention that sakaguchi didn't direct VI either. You can check me on that.

VII had many things going for it which for some reason you neglected. Cloud is the most focused on main character, and also the most complex, in any FF game. Half the story is completely dedicated to him.

[QUOTE="white_sox"]WKS looks much better, kthxbie.ace52387

You failed to immense levels when stating that it will beat, hell even challenge Level-5 the god's of the 3D JRPG.Dencore

In your opinion.

[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="Prid3r"]

All that made SE glory are now part of mistwalker . Lost odyssey look sweet ....... and epic ^^

BioShockOwnz

Why are you pulling out insults?

[QUOTE="Gallion-Beast"]Persona will own it. But they will both be great.xjet039

i dont think so.

I highly think so.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]I hope it turns out great, but LO looks downright boring.Kayrod29

No way!!! The story sounds so good! Please watch the E3 2007 trailer! Immortal man! so good! Watch out Square Enix you overrated piece of company crap!

See this is why I hate Square-Enix, not only do they give people the idea that all JRPG's have metrosexual lead characters, but also give people the idea that a JRPG is about story first and combat and level-design isn't very important.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="Prid3r"]

All that made SE glory are now part of mistwalker . Lost odyssey look sweet ....... and epic ^^

Tamarind_Face

Why are you pulling out insults?

Now you are putting words in his post. He never said Mistwalker has proven anything. He said that SE talent is part of Mistwalker.

Now stop insulting people.

[QUOTE="Dencore"]You failed to immense levels when stating that it will beat, hell even challenge Level-5 the god's of the 3D JRPG.BioShockOwnz

In your opinion.

No that's pretty much fact. Level-5 is to 3D JRPG's as of Valve is to Single Player FPS's as to Blizzard is to RTS's.

Sounds awesome, looks awesome, and will probably be awesome. Can't wait for this game, and the gameplay seems to include elements from two of my favorite Squaresoft RPGs of all time: FFVIII and FFVI.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Dencore"]You failed to immense levels when stating that it will beat, hell even challenge Level-5 the god's of the 3D JRPG.Dencore

In your opinion.

No that's pretty much fact. Level-5 is to 3D JRPG's as of Valve is to Single Player FPS's.

No, it isn't fact. It's your opinion, and nothing more.

Someone already commented on this, but I'll just restate this. The first trailer looked completely BAD***... right up until gameplay started. Thats my impression when I see anything from this game. Story, concept, music (Nobuo FTW), etc are great but it all falls flat on its face when they get to that gameplay. Its not that its turnbased IMO, its just that they don't do anything new and fresh with the system. That and even by turn-based game standards its slow.

And WKS takes massive dumps all over LO. >_>

[QUOTE="white_sox"]WKS looks much better, kthxbie.BioShockOwnz

No it doesn't. Kthxbye.

yes it does level 5 man dark cloud makers

[QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="Gallion-Beast"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="Prid3r"]

All that made SE glory are now part of mistwalker . Lost odyssey look sweet ....... and epic ^^

ace52387

So funny how as soon Sakaguchi left, FF games have been crap compared to the older ones.

FF7 was a pretty large step backwards for FF. It just did't compare to 6. The only good thing FF7 did was jump to 3D and sell a whole lot. It wasn't a bad game, it just did'nt meet the high standards of 1-6.

iirc, in the gametrailer FF retrospective series, they mention that sakaguchi didn't direct VI either. You can check me on that.

VII had many things going for it which for some reason you neglected. Cloud is the most focused on main character, and also the most complex, in any FF game. Half the story is completely dedicated to him.

Cloud is farrrrrrrr from the most complex main character ever in FF. Hell, he barley shows any emotion.

Someone already commented on this, but I'll just restate this. The first trailer looked completely BAD***... right up until gameplay started. Thats my impression when I see anything from this game. Story, concept, music (Nobuo FTW), etc are great but it all falls flat on its face when they get to that gameplay. Its not that its turnbased IMO, its just that they don't do anything new and fresh with the system. That and even by turn-based game standards its slow.

And WKS takes massive dumps all over LO. >_>

Mitsugi123

Also, frowns at TC who stole my post and didn't credit me.

[QUOTE="ace52387"][QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="Gallion-Beast"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="Prid3r"]

All that made SE glory are now part of mistwalker . Lost odyssey look sweet ....... and epic ^^

goblaa

So funny how as soon Sakaguchi left, FF games have been crap compared to the older ones.

FF7 was a pretty large step backwards for FF. It just did't compare to 6. The only good thing FF7 did was jump to 3D and sell a whole lot. It wasn't a bad game, it just did'nt meet the high standards of 1-6.

iirc, in the gametrailer FF retrospective series, they mention that sakaguchi didn't direct VI either. You can check me on that.

VII had many things going for it which for some reason you neglected. Cloud is the most focused on main character, and also the most complex, in any FF game. Half the story is completely dedicated to him.

Cloud is farrrrrrrr from the most complex main character ever in FF. Hell, he barley shows any emotion.

whaaaaat? I would appreciate a list. Half the story is literally about him remembering stuff! I don't want to spoil EVERYTHING but the more he remembers, the more sides of his personality you get to see. He doesn't show emotion in the begining, and he never shows any serious romantic interest, but you definitely get to look at his issues.

[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="Prid3r"]

All that made SE glory are now part of mistwalker . Lost odyssey look sweet ....... and epic ^^

BioShockOwnz

Why are you pulling out insults?

Now you are putting words in his post. He never said Mistwalker has proven anything. He said that SE talent is part of Mistwalker.

Now stop insulting people.

• Kitase the one who directed chrono Trigger, FF7, FF6 and FF8 is still with square enix.
• Matsuno the who orginally directed FF12 and Vagrant Story is not with Mistwalker right now and is making a Wii game.
• Ito who directed both FF9 and FF6 is still with square.

[QUOTE="Mitsugi123"]

Someone already commented on this, but I'll just restate this. The first trailer looked completely BAD***... right up until gameplay started. Thats my impression when I see anything from this game. Story, concept, music (Nobuo FTW), etc are great but it all falls flat on its face when they get to that gameplay. Its not that its turnbased IMO, its just that they don't do anything new and fresh with the system. That and even by turn-based game standards its slow.

And WKS takes massive dumps all over LO. >_>

plainoldsam

Also, frowns at TC who stole my post and didn't credit me.

For this discussion, then unveiling of the game. But the snippets of gameplay in the E3 07 trailer look much the same.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="Prid3r"]

Tamarind_Face

Now you are putting words in his post. He never said Mistwalker has proven anything. He said that SE talent is part of Mistwalker.

Now stop insulting people.

• Kitase the one who directed chrono Trigger, FF7, FF6 and FF8 is still with square enix.
• Matsuno the who orginally directed FF12 and Vagrant Story is not with Mistwalker right now and is making a Wii game.
• Ito who directed both FF9 and FF6 is still with square.

So umm what talent? oh yeah Nubuo Uematsu... which seems to have lost his touch.

You're the one that was spinning his post. And obviously you won't give any of the Mistwalker guys credit, because we know you hate them with a passion since their games are on 360.

[QUOTE="ace52387"][QUOTE="white_sox"]WKS looks much better, kthxbie.Ibacai

Do you mean this one?

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22732.html

It definitely starts looking pretty epic by the end, but i can't get over how ugly all the characters look :( It's hard to say right now, but my impression from the character designs is that it'll be racked with anime cliche's.

• Kitase the one who directed chrono Trigger, FF7, FF6 and FF8 is still with square enix.
• Matsuno the who orginally directed FF12 and Vagrant Story is not with Mistwalker right now and is making a Wii game.
• Ito who directed both FF9 and FF6 is still with square.

So umm what talent? oh yeah Nubuo Uematsu... which seems to have lost his touch.

I'll agree with you that Blue Dragon didn't have the best soundtrack, but have you even watched the E32007 trailer for this game? The main theme of this game isawesome.

My personal preference is that the game looks okay, but I need to know more, the Wall thing sounds intresting, but from readin more on it looks like to have a combat system that was made out in 1999 *sounds similar to Legend of Dragoon, and yes I know that was in the 00's* I'm still not gonna hold my breath with this. First off I need to know the level design, difficulty, and depth of the combat system before I can decided whether or not this game catches my eye.

You're the one that was spinning his post. And obviously you won't give any of the Mistwalker guys credit, because we know you hate them with a passion since their games are on 360.

BioShockOwnz

This is a joke, no really it is.

First of all a poster implied that most of Square's talent went to Mistwalker. Then he lists specific powers from Square-Enix that aren't in Mistwalker, prooving that all of their talent is in them is completly false.

And now you accuse him of "spinning" when he clearly prooved him wrong?

WTF? :lol:

I'll agree with you that Blue Dragon didn't have the best soundtrack, but have you even watched the E32007 trailer for this game? The main theme of this game isawesome.Mitsugi123

Nobuo didn't loose his touch, more so going down the "experimental route" in his music.

[QUOTE="Mitsugi123"]

I'll agree with you that Blue Dragon didn't have the best soundtrack, but have you even watched the E32007 trailer for this game? The main theme of this game isawesome.Dencore

Nobuo didn't loose his touch, more so going down the "experimental route" in his music.

Nothing wrong with experimenting with his style, sometimes it works (FFX, Otherworld) and sometimes it doesnt. God I hate that vocal song for Blue Dragon.

My personal preference is that the game looks okay, but I need to know more, the Wall thing sounds intresting, but from readin more on it looks like to have a combat system that was made out in 1999 *sounds similar to Legend of Dragoon, and yes I know that was in the 00's* I'm still not gonna hold my breath with this. First off I need to know the level design, difficulty, and depth of the combat system before I can decided whether or not this game catches my eye.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

You're the one that was spinning his post. And obviously you won't give any of the Mistwalker guys credit, because we know you hate them with a passion since their games are on 360.

Dencore

This is a joke, no really it is.

First of all a poster implied that most of Square's talent went to Mistwalker. Then he lists specific powers from Square-Enix that aren't in Mistwalker, prooving that all of their talent is in them is completly false.

And now you accuse him of "spinning" when he clearly prooved him wrong?

WTF? :lol:

You missed it. That's not what I was referring to.

I have LO preordered along with BD and Eternal Sonata. This is a great time for JRPG fans which happen to own a 360! I occassionally watch the LO gameplay trailer which has amazing music and a surreal cutscene at the end.

Here's a few pics of the very ending. (I know this seems odd, but you have to see the trailer to understand.) I just thought it was cool, with the music.

[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="Prid3r"]

BioShockOwnz

Now you are putting words in his post. He never said Mistwalker has proven anything. He said that SE talent is part of Mistwalker.

Now stop insulting people.

• Kitase the one who directed chrono Trigger, FF7, FF6 and FF8 is still with square enix.
• Matsuno the who orginally directed FF12 and Vagrant Story is not with Mistwalker right now and is making a Wii game.
• Ito who directed both FF9 and FF6 is still with square.

So umm what talent? oh yeah Nubuo Uematsu... which seems to have lost his touch.

You're the one that was spinning his post. And obviously you won't give any of the Mistwalker guys credit, because we know you hate them with a passion since their games are on 360.

I dont hate Mistwalker, I just dont like Sakaguchi. People seem to forget who destroyed Square.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="white_sox"]WKS looks much better, kthxbie.mgsbethatgame

No it doesn't. Kthxbye.

yes it does level 5 man dark cloud makers

a) no it doesn't

b) they are both have different art styles...for me it's better to compare to Eternal Sonata than LO...and ES and WKS look about the same so far.

C) what teh hell is that supposed to mean...that they can't make a bad game. I wonder why lair isnt released this week then...?

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="Prid3r"]

Tamarind_Face

Now you are putting words in his post. He never said Mistwalker has proven anything. He said that SE talent is part of Mistwalker.

Now stop insulting people.

• Kitase the one who directed chrono Trigger, FF7, FF6 and FF8 is still with square enix.
• Matsuno the who orginally directed FF12 and Vagrant Story is not with Mistwalker right now and is making a Wii game.
• Ito who directed both FF9 and FF6 is still with square.

So umm what talent? oh yeah Nubuo Uematsu... which seems to have lost his touch.

You're the one that was spinning his post. And obviously you won't give any of the Mistwalker guys credit, because we know you hate them with a passion since their games are on 360.

I dont hate Mistwalker, I just dont like Sakaguchi. People seem to forget who destroyed Square.

Its like saying i hate level 5 because sony is paying them for every game they make for thier consoles, i like level even though i couldnt understand dq8.

[QUOTE="mgsbethatgame"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="white_sox"]WKS looks much better, kthxbie.killaj2786

No it doesn't. Kthxbye.

yes it does level 5 man dark cloud makers

a) no it doesn't

b) they are both have different art styles...for me it's better to compare to Eternal Sonata than LO...and ES and WKS look about the same so far.

C) what teh hell is that supposed to mean...that they can't make a bad game. I wonder why lair isnt released this week then...?

YOU DID NOT JUST COMPARE ETERNAL SONATA TO WHITE KNIGHT STORY! :x Talk about comparing trash to gold.

[QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="mgsbethatgame"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="white_sox"]WKS looks much better, kthxbie.Mitsugi123

No it doesn't. Kthxbye.

yes it does level 5 man dark cloud makers

a) no it doesn't

b) they are both have different art styles...for me it's better to compare to Eternal Sonata than LO...and ES and WKS look about the same so far.

C) what teh hell is that supposed to mean...that they can't make a bad game. I wonder why lair isnt released this week then...?

YOU DID NOT JUST COMPARE ETERNAL SONATA TO WHITE KNIGHT STORY! :x Talk about comparing trash to gold.

i see no trash what are you talking about.

YOU DID NOT JUST COMPARE ETERNAL SONATA TO WHITE KNIGHT STORY! :x Talk about comparing trash to gold.

i see no trash what are you talking about.

I have no clever comeback, so I will just say it straight out. WKS > ES... completely

[QUOTE="Mitsugi123"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="mgsbethatgame"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

xjet039

i see no trash what are you talking about.

Notice the pattern? If it's not on PS3, they consider it trash.

[QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="mgsbethatgame"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="white_sox"]WKS looks much better, kthxbie.Mitsugi123

No it doesn't. Kthxbye.

yes it does level 5 man dark cloud makers

a) no it doesn't

b) they are both have different art styles...for me it's better to compare to Eternal Sonata than LO...and ES and WKS look about the same so far.

C) what teh hell is that supposed to mean...that they can't make a bad game. I wonder why lair isnt released this week then...?

YOU DID NOT JUST COMPARE ETERNAL SONATA TO WHITE KNIGHT STORY! :x Talk about comparing trash to gold.

Huh? U played it already?...cuz u asked anyone who played the demo...it's far from trash....

and I meant art style:

ES:

WKS:

LO:

Btw, :lol: @ u saying that lost odyssey doesnt look better.

[QUOTE="xjet039"][QUOTE="Mitsugi123"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="mgsbethatgame"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

BioShockOwnz

i see no trash what are you talking about.

Notice the pattern? If it's not on PS3, they consider it trash.

Except I admitted that I loved everything about LO besides its combat. o_O Generalizations FTW

YOU DID NOT JUST COMPARE ETERNAL SONATA TO WHITE KNIGHT STORY! :x Talk about comparing trash to gold.

i see no trash what are you talking about.

I have no clever comeback, so I will just say it straight out. WKS > ES... completely

Mitsugi123

yet u havent played either game...ES got rave reviews in Japan...people love the demo....and it's tras:|

[QUOTE="Mitsugi123"]

YOU DID NOT JUST COMPARE ETERNAL SONATA TO WHITE KNIGHT STORY! :x Talk about comparing trash to gold.

i see no trash what are you talking about.

I have no clever comeback, so I will just say it straight out. WKS > ES... completely

killaj2786

yet u havent played either game...ES got rave reviews in Japan...people love the demo....and it's tras:|

And the only review so far from a publication this side of the Pacific (OXM) has given it an 8. Even that we have to take with a grain of salt. That and IMO from what we've seen of both combat systems WKS is far more ahead in the gameplay department.

LO's gameplay is basicaly Final Fantasy with some extra features, which is dissapointing, however it will be a must buy for my 360.

[QUOTE="Mitsugi123"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="mgsbethatgame"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

killaj2786

Huh? U played it already?...cuz u asked anyone who played the demo...it's far from trash....

and I meant art style:

ES:

WKS:

LO:

Btw, :lol: @ u saying that lost odyssey doesnt look better.

Eternal Sonata is beautiful. WKS looks rather generic. O_o

[QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="Mitsugi123"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="mgsbethatgame"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

BioShockOwnz

Huh? U played it already?...cuz u asked anyone who played the demo...it's far from trash....

and I meant art style:

ES:

WKS:

LO:

Btw, :lol: @ u saying that lost odyssey doesnt look better.

Eternal Sonata is beautiful. WKS looks rather generic. O_o

I could apply that same generalization you used on me right here...

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="Mitsugi123"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="mgsbethatgame"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Mitsugi123

Huh? U played it already?...cuz u asked anyone who played the demo...it's far from trash....

and I meant art style:

ES:

WKS:

LO:

Btw, :lol: @ u saying that lost odyssey doesnt look better.

Eternal Sonata is beautiful. WKS looks rather generic. O_o

I could apply that same generalization you used on me right here...

As much as I look forward to LO, I have to admit - White Knight Story looks like it will be more innovative with the gameplay. And from what I've seen, it's really exciting on how good this game could be.

[QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="Mitsugi123"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="mgsbethatgame"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

BioShockOwnz

Huh? U played it already?...cuz u asked anyone who played the demo...it's far from trash....

and I meant art style:

ES:

WKS:

LO:

Btw, :lol: @ u saying that lost odyssey doesnt look better.

Eternal Sonata is beautiful. WKS looks rather generic. O_o

And thats because WKS is on the PS3 right? You see the pattern? If it's not on the 360, it looks like crap.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="Mitsugi123"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="mgsbethatgame"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Ragnarok1051

Huh? U played it already?...cuz u asked anyone who played the demo...it's far from trash....

and I meant art style:

ES:

WKS:

LO:

Btw, :lol: @ u saying that lost odyssey doesnt look better.

Eternal Sonata is beautiful. WKS looks rather generic. O_o

And thats because WKS is on the PS3 right? You see the pattern? If it's not on the 360, it looks like crap.

Nope. Check the sig. I'm a happy PS3 owner, and I'll be picking up WKS when it releases. I just think Eternal Sonata has better art direction, that's all.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="Mitsugi123"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="mgsbethatgame"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

BioShockOwnz

Huh? U played it already?...cuz u asked anyone who played the demo...it's far from trash....

and I meant art style:

ES:

WKS:

LO:

Btw, :lol: @ u saying that lost odyssey doesnt look better.

Eternal Sonata is beautiful. WKS looks rather generic. O_o

And thats because WKS is on the PS3 right? You see the pattern? If it's not on the 360, it looks like crap.

Nope. Check the sig. I'm a happy PS3 owner, and I'll be picking up WKS when it releases. I just think Eternal Sonata has better art direction, that's all.

cutesy anime characters turn me off completely, especially when they are cel-shaded. but to each his own.

Going completely off topic for a moment, but has anyone else noticed that the character's ears from that ES pic aren't exactly in the right spot... THEY'RE RUNNING PARRALEL WITH THEIR MOUTHS!?!?!? :oMitsugi123

Well, they are fantasy characters.

Lost Odyssey is looking really good ever since it started to look a lot like Final Fantasy.:DSir-Marwin105

wow i just realized that's the only reason i'm looking forward to it....does that make us pathetic in anyway?