Lost Odyssey Downgraded - MS withholds content from those who refuse to pre-orde

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#1 Damrightfresh
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From Gameplayer... "Microsoft has created an added incentive to pre-order Lost Odyssey: if you don't pre-order, you don't get the full game.

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/NewsCom-100240.aspx#C751334

Microsoft what you to pay up now..or you dont get the extra contents to fully experience lost odyssey...lol.. Microsoft knows this game is going to sell like crap here in NA so they trying to force people to get the game on first day..

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#3 ghoulsandghost
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oh snap, MS milking the LEMMINGS. lol

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#4 heretrix
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You should go back and read the article. It's hardly content that's worth whining about.
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#5 SecretPolice
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Way to over blow this thing - yikes.

Anyway I'm sure these two Slivers of content will be a free D.L. on XBL in the near future.

The first is "'The Forgotten Song' (found in-game at Virno's Tavern in Uhra)" which apparently 'recalls a fresh reflection of a dream.' Considering the main character, Kaim, is an amnesiac, and a good deal of the game is about piecing together his past, this would suggest that a significant part of the story is being withheld from the non pre-ordering public.

The other bit of content is a "'Master's Secret Script' that grants the skill 'Weapon Guard 2.'" This defensive bonus is effectively a cheat code, making the game slightly easier, and thus more accessible to newcomers. Since it is the hard-core RPG fans that will be pre-ordering Lost Odyssey, this set of training wheels doesn't make a great deal of sense, either.

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#6 Riverwolf007
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Wow, how upsetting to all 12 people that buy this game.

I may rent the title for a few days to see if anything has changed about J-rpgs lately but if they have not changed in 20 years why would anything be different this time.

J-dev is in a serious rut.

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#7 jg4xchamp
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u miss out on 1 single dream

and a defense bonus that makes the game easier.......

OMG Microsoft you took away so much of the game. I can live with one less dream
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#8 Damrightfresh
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You should go back and read the article. It's hardly content that's worth whining about. heretrix

Don't matter the fact that their going to screw some people is more than enough to tell Microsoft to go jump off the bridge. Its still shady business from Microsoft.

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#9 Animal-Mother
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is the $100 thing true?
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Come on cows, this is too pathetic. I thought there would be something real here but its nothing. Please stop creating stupid threads like this for your own sake. I hope you understand that by creating dumb threads like this that you're making yourself, and Sony fans look like a bunch of whinny brats.

By the way, you could have just as easily titled this thread "MS Give special content to those that pre-order", which in truth is what it really is. And this concept of getting free stuff if you pre-order is nothing new.

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#11 Damrightfresh
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u miss out on 1 single dream

and a defense bonus that makes the game easier.......

OMG Microsoft you took away so much of the game. I can live with one less dreamjg4xchamp

I can't wait till Microsoft do this to more games..They going to upset a few thousand of people and they all will turn their back on Microsoft and get the PS3..Actually its happening right now with RROD and bad paid online services..

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]u miss out on 1 single dream

and a defense bonus that makes the game easier.......

OMG Microsoft you took away so much of the game. I can live with one less dreamDamrightfresh

I can't wait till Microsoft do this to more games..They going to upset a few thousand of people and they all will turn their back on Microsoft and get the PS3..Actually its happening right now with RROD and bad paid online services..

yah i can see this happening. and the sad things is players are allowing Companies to do this, by saying its ok, its just one dream etc.
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Come on cows, this is too pathetic. I thought there would be something real here but its nothing. Please stop creating stupid threads like this for your own sake. I hope you understand that by creating dumb threads like this that you're making yourself, and Sony fans look like a bunch of whinny brats.

By the way, you could have just as easily titled this thread "MS Give special content to those that pre-order", which in truth is what it really is. And this concept of getting free stuff if you pre-order is nothing new.

Fumpa

You are delusional and should be treated because you got a symptom called I bend down for Microsoft

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is the $100 thing true?Animal-Mother

Since the site running the article is an Australian site, I believe that is the cost of the game in Australia.

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#15 Animal-Mother
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You are delusional and should be treated because you got a symptom called I bend down for Microsoft

dude, if i could i would give you a high five, but i can't so. Virtual High Five!

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]u miss out on 1 single dream

and a defense bonus that makes the game easier.......

OMG Microsoft you took away so much of the game. I can live with one less dreamDamrightfresh

I can't wait till Microsoft do this to more games..They going to upset a few thousand of people and they all will turn their back on Microsoft and get the PS3..Actually its happening right now with RROD and bad paid online services..

1- XBOX live is done very well, most critics would agree Microsoft did a fantastic job with xbox live.
2- RROD is being dealt with, 3 year warrenty and consistant improvement of the gpu and cpu.
3- ITS A FUDGING DREAM. And a CHeat Code. I dont see that as special.

I mean I think they are shady when they made Epic sell there Gears Maps for money instead of free.

Thats shady.

Im not being biased or kisssing MS rear end. This isnt a huge amount of content. If anything they are milking the people who need that last bit of a dream. ITs like the legendary edition of Halo. You really dont need a helmet or all those developer diaries but you pay for them anyway.

Not as extreme since this is actual game content, but its 1 freaking dream. Id like something more legit to bash Microsoft about out.
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#17 Damrightfresh
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[QUOTE="Damrightfresh"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]u miss out on 1 single dream

and a defense bonus that makes the game easier.......

OMG Microsoft you took away so much of the game. I can live with one less dreamghoulsandghost

I can't wait till Microsoft do this to more games..They going to upset a few thousand of people and they all will turn their back on Microsoft and get the PS3..Actually its happening right now with RROD and bad paid online services..

yah i can see this happening. and the sad things is players are allowing Companies to do this, by saying its ok, its just one dream etc.

This is the reason i dont want microsoft to win this gen..i know they going to over charge everything and get people to spend even more money..Thank god for Nintendo and Sony..

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#18 Animal-Mother
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ya but you know what the problem is people want to pay for the full game and that to be it, i mean comon we already pay 60 dollars for a game, and then 10 dollars for extra DLC is 70 and then possibly more DLC content, you could end up possibly , im not saying it will happen but you could possibly end up paying upto 100 dollars for a game if you really want to, but i mean like i said we pay enough give us our moneys worth
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]You should go back and read the article. It's hardly content that's worth whining about. Damrightfresh

Don't matter the fact that their going to screw some people is more than enough to tell Microsoft to go jump off the bridge. Its still shady business from Microsoft.

See above.
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#20 useLOGIC
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seems like negative fanboy spin

doesnt seem like theyre punishing people for not preordering, seems more like theyre rewarding those who do.

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[QUOTE="Damrightfresh"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]You should go back and read the article. It's hardly content that's worth whining about. heretrix

Don't matter the fact that their going to screw some people is more than enough to tell Microsoft to go jump off the bridge. Its still shady business from Microsoft.

See above.


"Customers who pre-order the game from participating retailers will get a special redemption card that will permit the download of two slivers of in-game content. Both are described as being "unavailable anywhere else."

Yeah, sounds like a TON of content is missing if I don't pre-order. Heretrix just owned the cows in one fell swoop.

:lol:

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#22 ghoulsandghost
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I love how MS is pushing games that they know will not sell well here in the US. Just like crackdown, they put the halo MP beta with it. i guess MS knows its going to flop :(.

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#23 TekkenMaster606
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Good thing I got 'dat Playstation Triple instead...

I can avoid this game and uhm, play FOLKLORE again! :lol:

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#24 Phantom_Menace
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seems like negative fanboy spin

doesnt seem like theyre punishing people for not preordering, seems more like theyre rewarding those who do.

useLOGIC

Its easy for anyone to do that... spin things to sound a certain way.

While it does not seem like the content missing or extra is really much of anything, I'm not a fan of content being with-held from a game to be added later... at worst, being sold. But it would probably be difficult to tell if there is added content that a dev decided to make and add to an already established game or was being held back.

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#25 ghoulsandghost
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Damrightfresh"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]You should go back and read the article. It's hardly content that's worth whining about. TekkenMaster606

Don't matter the fact that their going to screw some people is more than enough to tell Microsoft to go jump off the bridge. Its still shady business from Microsoft.

See above.


"Customers who pre-order the game from participating retailers will get a special redemption card that will permit the download of two slivers of in-game content. Both are described as being "unavailable anywhere else."

Yeah, sounds like a TON of content is missing if I don't pre-order. Heretrix just owned the cows in one fell swoop.

:lol:

see above. regardless if its a small content, or a huge content. MS should not say hey, if you preorder our game, we will reward you by extra content. its like they are TWISTING A SALE. which is shoddy buiness. they left out this piece of content on purpose to get a sale. but oh well, in the end Lemmings will be screwed just like with the gears of war maps, that EPIC WANTED TO GIVE OUT FREE. lol.
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#26 SecretPolice
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I love how MS is pushing games that they know will not sell well here in the US. Just like crackdown, they put the halo MP beta with it. i guess MS knows its going to flop :(.

ghoulsandghost
Crackdown is a AAA in my book and I bet most who bought it mostly for the Halo 3 beta would now agree; Crackdown was well worth the price of admission and I still play it to this day !
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#27 TekkenMaster606
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Tons of other publishers have offered bonus content as an incentive to pre-order. This is nothing new. But because it's an MS published title, the cowtots go nuts.

How many RPGs does the PS3 currently have again? :lol:

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Come on cows, this is too pathetic. I thought there would be something real here but its nothing. Please stop creating stupid threads like this for your own sake. I hope you understand that by creating dumb threads like this that you're making yourself, and Sony fans look like a bunch of whinny brats.

By the way, you could have just as easily titled this thread "MS Give special content to those that pre-order", which in truth is what it really is. And this concept of getting free stuff if you pre-order is nothing new.

Fumpa

In the past few days I have seen more lemmings getting owned in the 2nd post of their own threads which by the way are really stupid threads, much worse then the one we are in now.

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I love how MS is pushing games that they know will not sell well here in the US. Just like crackdown, they put the halo MP beta with it. i guess MS knows its going to flop :(.

ghoulsandghost

Um cows...isn't Sony charging like $30-40 for what is essentially a demo of GT 5? Both of these companys find different ways of milking and they're both greedy corporations so stop the "Sony is soooo generous and M$ is sooooo greedy" it's really kind of sad to follow one company so blindly.

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#30 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="ghoulsandghost"]

I love how MS is pushing games that they know will not sell well here in the US. Just like crackdown, they put the halo MP beta with it. i guess MS knows its going to flop :(.

JTH_22

Um cows...isn't Sony charging like $30-40 for what is essentially a demo of GT 5? Both of these companys find different ways of milking and they're both greedy corporations so stop the "Sony is soooo enerous and M$ is sooooo bad" it's really kind of sad.

M$ is the king of milking this gen.

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#31 TekkenMaster606
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Yeah, MS is the king of milking. The Playstation 3 doesn't even come with an HD cable in the box. Cows. :lol:
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[QUOTE="JTH_22"][QUOTE="ghoulsandghost"]

I love how MS is pushing games that they know will not sell well here in the US. Just like crackdown, they put the halo MP beta with it. i guess MS knows its going to flop :(.

Ragnarok1051

Um cows...isn't Sony charging like $30-40 for what is essentially a demo of GT 5? Both of these companys find different ways of milking and they're both greedy corporations so stop the "Sony is soooo enerous and M$ is sooooo bad" it's really kind of sad.

M$ is the king of milking this gen.

So it's ok for Sony to charge for GT 5 prologue (a demo)but not for MS to have DL content?

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#33 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="JTH_22"][QUOTE="ghoulsandghost"]

I love how MS is pushing games that they know will not sell well here in the US. Just like crackdown, they put the halo MP beta with it. i guess MS knows its going to flop :(.

JTH_22

Um cows...isn't Sony charging like $30-40 for what is essentially a demo of GT 5? Both of these companys find different ways of milking and they're both greedy corporations so stop the "Sony is soooo enerous and M$ is sooooo bad" it's really kind of sad.

M$ is the king of milking this gen.

So it's ok for Sony to charge for GT 5 prologue (a demo)but not for MS to have DL content?

Where did I say that it was alright?

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Yeah, MS is the king of milking. The Playstation 3 doesn't even come with an HD cable in the box. Cows. :lol:TekkenMaster606

Xbox 360 doesn't come with wireless internet and requires an adapter. Lems.

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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]Yeah, MS is the king of milking. The Playstation 3 doesn't even come with an HD cable in the box. Cows. :lol:Phantom_Menace

Xbox 360 doesn't come with wireless internet and requires an adapter. Lems.

It's a good thing that I DON'T NEED wireless then. Wired connections > Wireless. More secure. Cows. :lol:

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#36 JTH_22
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Ragnarok

You didn't instead you just ignored the point and slammed one company for milkage and let the other off the hook. Both are guilty of it and if you're going to slam one don't be hypocritical, slam them both. That's all I'm saying. They're both greedy corps one's no better than the other. Period.

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#37 djestar
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Both companies are milking. I had to buy a multi tap for PS2 when Xbox already had 4 ports. Now this generation the PS3 has wireless whereas I had to buy one for Xbox 360. I hope both companies continue to compete because for sure if one of them takes over they're going to put prices up.
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#38 Phantom_Menace
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[QUOTE="Phantom_Menace"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]Yeah, MS is the king of milking. The Playstation 3 doesn't even come with an HD cable in the box. Cows. :lol:TekkenMaster606

Xbox 360 doesn't come with wireless internet and requires an adapter. Lems.

It's a good thing that I DON'T NEED wireless then. Wired connections > Wireless. More secure. Cows. :lol:

I don't need an HD cable.

And congradulations for you. Not everyone is blessed with the ability to have a wired connection. Like not everyone has an HDTV. So, out of the two, lacking an HD cable is less of an inconvenience.

But yes, a wired connection is better, which is why I have one.

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Only in system wars...
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[QUOTE="Fumpa"]

Come on cows, this is too pathetic. I thought there would be something real here but its nothing. Please stop creating stupid threads like this for your own sake. I hope you understand that by creating dumb threads like this that you're making yourself, and Sony fans look like a bunch of whinny brats.

By the way, you could have just as easily titled this thread "MS Give special content to those that pre-order", which in truth is what it really is. And this concept of getting free stuff if you pre-order is nothing new.

Damrightfresh

You are delusional and should be treated because you got a symptom called I bend down for Microsoft

lame

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who cares? is this game even going to be good?
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#42 Fumpa
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[QUOTE="Fumpa"]

Come on cows, this is too pathetic. I thought there would be something real here but its nothing. Please stop creating stupid threads like this for your own sake. I hope you understand that by creating dumb threads like this that you're making yourself, and Sony fans look like a bunch of whinny brats.

By the way, you could have just as easily titled this thread "MS Give special content to those that pre-order", which in truth is what it really is. And this concept of getting free stuff if you pre-order is nothing new.

Ragnarok1051

In the past few days I have seen more lemmings getting owned in the 2nd post of their own threads which by the way are really stupid threads, much worse then the one we are in now.

So your point is that two wrongs make a right?

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Huh? So what if they offer you something extra via download rather than including it in the box?
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Come on cows, this is too pathetic. I thought there would be something real here but its nothing. Please stop creating stupid threads like this for your own sake. I hope you understand that by creating dumb threads like this that you're making yourself, and Sony fans look like a bunch of whinny brats.

By the way, you could have just as easily titled this thread "MS Give special content to those that pre-order", which in truth is what it really is. And this concept of getting free stuff if you pre-order is nothing new.

Fumpa

Glad someone said it before me. You fanboys should really be in PR, because you guys can spin anything. Probably half the preorders that come out give you somethingexclusive for preordering. In the case of Gears of War, it was a t-shirt (at Best Buy;I think there may have been something different at Gamestop?), some of the newer racing games have had bonus cars when you preorder (BONUS CARS? OMG! You need cars to race, so the developers are making the game unplayable unless you preorder!!!), and there've been a couple shooters where you get an exclusive weapon with preorder. This is a fairly common business practice, and it happens on pretty much all consoles (except the Wii, where there are almost no games that receive the preorder treatment), so instead of making up stories about how one game is downgraded, take a look around and realize that everyone does this.

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#45 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Fumpa"]

Come on cows, this is too pathetic. I thought there would be something real here but its nothing. Please stop creating stupid threads like this for your own sake. I hope you understand that by creating dumb threads like this that you're making yourself, and Sony fans look like a bunch of whinny brats.

By the way, you could have just as easily titled this thread "MS Give special content to those that pre-order", which in truth is what it really is. And this concept of getting free stuff if you pre-order is nothing new.

Fumpa

In the past few days I have seen more lemmings getting owned in the 2nd post of their own threads which by the way are really stupid threads, much worse then the one we are in now.

So your point is that two wrongs make a right?

Just saying its not just the cows who are making really lame threads.

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#46 heretrix
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see above. regardless if its a small content, or a huge content. MS should not say hey, if you preorder our game, we will reward you by extra content. its like they are TWISTING A SALE. which is shoddy buiness. they left out this piece of content on purpose to get a sale. but oh well, in the end Lemmings will be screwed just like with the gears of war maps, that EPIC WANTED TO GIVE OUT FREE. lol.ghoulsandghost
It's nowhere near the same thing. It's 2 pieces of content that don't amount to much. There isn't anything wrong with offering incentives for people who preorder. It's the equivalent of giving someone a free T shirt. It's nice but you could do without it and still enjoy the game.
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That seems rather odd..
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From Gameplayer... "Microsoft has created an added incentive to pre-order Lost Odyssey: if you don't pre-order, you don't get the full game.

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/NewsCom-100240.aspx#C751334

Microsoft what you to pay up now..or you dont get the extra contents to fully experience lost odyssey...lol.. Microsoft knows this game is going to sell like crap here in NA so they trying to force people to get the game on first day..

Damrightfresh

Hoopla over 1 song and a cheat code?? And I thought they were removing 10 minutes of gameplay..... pffffffftttttttt.

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[QUOTE="ghoulsandghost"]see above. regardless if its a small content, or a huge content. MS should not say hey, if you preorder our game, we will reward you by extra content. its like they are TWISTING A SALE. which is shoddy buiness. they left out this piece of content on purpose to get a sale. but oh well, in the end Lemmings will be screwed just like with the gears of war maps, that EPIC WANTED TO GIVE OUT FREE. lol.heretrix
It's nowhere near the same thing. It's 2 pieces of content that don't amount to much. There isn't anything wrong with offering incentives for people who preorder. It's the equivalent of giving someone a free T shirt. It's nice but you could do without it and still enjoy the game.

You probaly dont care about the game to actually be mad at them, but the people who probaly likes it will get angry about it.. This is not just contents to them its something that make their game feel like a whole. Just because Microsoft screw a few people around doesn't mean its right..

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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="ghoulsandghost"]see above. regardless if its a small content, or a huge content. MS should not say hey, if you preorder our game, we will reward you by extra content. its like they are TWISTING A SALE. which is shoddy buiness. they left out this piece of content on purpose to get a sale. but oh well, in the end Lemmings will be screwed just like with the gears of war maps, that EPIC WANTED TO GIVE OUT FREE. lol.Damrightfresh

It's nowhere near the same thing. It's 2 pieces of content that don't amount to much. There isn't anything wrong with offering incentives for people who preorder. It's the equivalent of giving someone a free T shirt. It's nice but you could do without it and still enjoy the game.

You probaly dont care about the game to actually be mad at them, but the people who probaly likes it will get really mad about it.. This is not just contents to them its something that make thir game feel like a whole. Just because Microsoft screw a few people around doesn't mean its right..

If you like it, then preorder it, you can always cancel a preorder if you decide you don't want the game. :|