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First thing first. Mass Effect is awesome. I love that game. I am currently on a second playthrough and will probably play it 3 more times. However LO was just better. It hit all parts of your emotions that ME just didn't do. There was no humor in Mass Effect whatsoever. Also I couldn't really see a difference in being good or eveil. In kotor you would gain Sith powers or Jedi powers. You don't gain anything like that in this game so I never really saw a reason to be bad. Despite all ts faults it was still anawesome game and great experience.

LO though blew me away from start from finish. It hit all the emotions a human can have. Battle system was awesome, dungeons were short and not repetitive. The locales were different and doing all the sidequest in this game were worth it in comparison to Mass Effect. Sidequest were just ok in Mass Effect. Story wise I'll give to Mass efect because it really made me feel as though I was fighting for more then just myself in comparison to LO, but the Dream Sequences in LO are fantastic. It is truly a great read.

Both games were fun, both games I recomend, but LO is superior to Mass Effect.

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I'll agree with the emotional parts, but as a game first and foremost I felt Mass effect was much better.
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First thing first. Mass Effect is awesome. I love that game. I am currently on a second playthrough and will probably play it 3 more times. However LO was just better. It hit all parts of your emotions that ME just didn't do. There was no humor in Mass Effect whatsoever. Also I couldn't really see a difference in being good or eveil. In kotor you would gain Sith powers or Jedi powers. You don't gain anything like that in this game so I never really saw a reason to be bad. Despite all ts faults it was still anawesome game and great experience.

LO though blew me away from start from finish. It hit all the emotions a human can have. Battle system was awesome, dungeons were short and not repetitive. The locales were different and doing all the sidequest in this game were worth it in comparison to Mass Effect. Sidequest were just ok in Mass Effect. Story wise I'll give to Mass efect because it really made me feel as though I was fighting for more then just myself in comparison to LO, but the Dream Sequences in LO are fantastic. It is truly a great read.

Both games were fun, both games I recomend, but LO is superior to Mass Effect.

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No. You just prefer JRPGs. Don't get it twisted.
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I'll agree with the emotional parts, but as a game first and foremost I felt Mass effect was much better.Shazenab
Sidequests were woth doing in LO. I can't say the same for Mass Effect. Bringing down the Sky though was awesome. Bioware said in ME 2 sidequests will be like that so I can't wait for the sequal.
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No. You just prefer JRPGs. Don't get it twisted.heretrix

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I prefer JRPGs as well

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#6 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

First thing first. Mass Effect is awesome. I love that game. I am currently on a second playthrough and will probably play it 3 more times. However LO was just better. It hit all parts of your emotions that ME just didn't do. There was no humor in Mass Effect whatsoever. Also I couldn't really see a difference in being good or eveil. In kotor you would gain Sith powers or Jedi powers. You don't gain anything like that in this game so I never really saw a reason to be bad. Despite all ts faults it was still anawesome game and great experience.

LO though blew me away from start from finish. It hit all the emotions a human can have. Battle system was awesome, dungeons were short and not repetitive. The locales were different and doing all the sidequest in this game were worth it in comparison to Mass Effect. Sidequest were just ok in Mass Effect. Story wise I'll give to Mass efect because it really made me feel as though I was fighting for more then just myself in comparison to LO, but the Dream Sequences in LO are fantastic. It is truly a great read.

Both games were fun, both games I recomend, but LO is superior to Mass Effect.

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No. You just prefer JRPGs. Don't get it twisted.

Far from that. I am a huge Kotor fan and bioware fan. I don't prefer either one or the other. I just go base off the quality of the game and my enjoyment of it.
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]No. You just prefer JRPGs. Don't get it twisted.f50p90

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I prefer JRPGs as well

Ya, I do too. They are more fun to play.

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I rented Mass Effect and was disappointed because I over-hyped it. That's not to say I think it's bad, just so so. I really like LO.
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Why do we have to endure this anecdotal bullcrap for LO every single day.

OMFG LO WAS SO UNDERRATED LOL LO IS BETTER THAN MASS EFFECT LOL LO IS THE BEST JRPG TO COME OUT THUS FAR

Okay, listen, I've never played this game and I have to go by the insane post-mortem hype this game is getting. As far as lemming mythology goes, this is the best JRPG of the last five years. We get it. Just shove it, please. There have ALWAYS been underrated games and this many threads/posts is absolutely enough.

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[QUOTE="Shazenab"]I'll agree with the emotional parts, but as a game first and foremost I felt Mass effect was much better.too_much_eslim
Sidequests were woth doing in LO. I can't say the same for Mass Effect. Bringing down the Sky though was awesome. Bioware said in ME 2 sidequests will be like that so I can't wait for the sequal.

I meant in terms of gameplay. I'm not a fan of turn based combat. For me the western approach seems far more enjoyable. But like someone else in this thread said it's all down to taste.

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i really should pick up lost odyssey. im going through a bit of a Jrpg phase and am playing alot of FF games again (thank god for PS3 BC...now if only it could upscale them properly...get it sorted sony). lost odyssey certainly looks pretty good. not a revolution...sticks to the tried and tested and all that, but its supposed to be good at what it does from what i hear. dang still so many games....this, no more heros and okami at some stage...im going to busy. must check to see of theres any good ones on the VC also.

anywho i agree on the characters in mass effect....they were a bit boring. great game though overall.

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#12 too_much_eslim
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Why do we have to endure this anecdotal bullcrap for LO every single day.

OMFG LO WAS SO UNDERRATED LOL LO IS BETTER THAN MASS EFFECT LOL LO IS THE BEST JRPG TO COME OUT THUS FAR

Okay, listen, I've never played this game and I have to go by the insane post-mortem hype this game is getting. As far as lemming mythology goes, this is the best JRPG of the last five years. We get it. Just shove it, please. There have ALWAYS been underrated games and this many threads/posts is absolutely enough.

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Umm did I complain about LO being underrated. No I didn't even say LO is teh best JRPG that come out thus far. I was just mentioning my surprise on how I enjoyed LO more than ME. I expected it to be the other way around.
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Lost Odyssey is a damn good game.
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na, Lost Oddysee was boring IMHO. Im through the 2nd disc and dont see myself finishing it.
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Shazenab"]I'll agree with the emotional parts, but as a game first and foremost I felt Mass effect was much better.Shazenab

Sidequests were woth doing in LO. I can't say the same for Mass Effect. Bringing down the Sky though was awesome. Bioware said in ME 2 sidequests will be like that so I can't wait for the sequal.

I meant in terms of gameplay. I'm not a fan of turn based combat. For me the western approach seems far more enjoyable. But like someone else in this thread said it's all down to taste.

Mass Effect is not "the western approach." Mass Effect is a b*stardized half-breed that takes the weakest elements of GRAW's shooting, Halo 3's art design, and KotOR's game design. (I guess that would make it a third-breed?)

KotOR is a great example of "the western approach," as are BioWare's pre-KotOR RPGs.

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Shazenab"]I'll agree with the emotional parts, but as a game first and foremost I felt Mass effect was much better.Shazenab

Sidequests were woth doing in LO. I can't say the same for Mass Effect. Bringing down the Sky though was awesome. Bioware said in ME 2 sidequests will be like that so I can't wait for the sequal.

I meant in terms of gameplay. I'm not a fan of turn based combat. For me the western approach seems far more enjoyable. But like someone else in this thread said it's all down to taste.

I like both though. I like turn base, real time, semi real time, grandia battle system. I don't have a preference on how the battle system is as long as it works well. Well techincally i do prefer Grandia battle sytem for some jrpg because it allows a certain strategy, but overall it makes no difference to me.
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

First thing first. Mass Effect is awesome. I love that game. I am currently on a second playthrough and will probably play it 3 more times. However LO was just better. It hit all parts of your emotions that ME just didn't do. There was no humor in Mass Effect whatsoever. Also I couldn't really see a difference in being good or eveil. In kotor you would gain Sith powers or Jedi powers. You don't gain anything like that in this game so I never really saw a reason to be bad. Despite all ts faults it was still anawesome game and great experience.

LO though blew me away from start from finish. It hit all the emotions a human can have. Battle system was awesome, dungeons were short and not repetitive. The locales were different and doing all the sidequest in this game were worth it in comparison to Mass Effect. Sidequest were just ok in Mass Effect. Story wise I'll give to Mass efect because it really made me feel as though I was fighting for more then just myself in comparison to LO, but the Dream Sequences in LO are fantastic. It is truly a great read.

Both games were fun, both games I recomend, but LO is superior to Mass Effect.

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No. You just prefer JRPGs. Don't get it twisted.

Far from that. I am a huge Kotor fan and bioware fan. I don't prefer either one or the other. I just go base off the quality of the game and my enjoyment of it.

If you say so. I'm not bashing LO, as I haven't played it, but from everything that I've heard about it, it isn't a very progressive RPG. I find that to be a big issue with JRPGs lately, as they all feel like they are cut from the same cloth. This is where I think preference comes in. You might enjoy wrpgs, but you might find the ****of JRPGs more to your liking.

I just guessing here, you are entitle to your opinion. Rock on.

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na, Lost Oddysee was boring IMHO. Im through the 2nd disc and dont see myself finishing it.RazMaTaz-1
second disk is the weakest disk in the game.
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#19 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="Shazenab"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Shazenab"]I'll agree with the emotional parts, but as a game first and foremost I felt Mass effect was much better.mjarantilla

Sidequests were woth doing in LO. I can't say the same for Mass Effect. Bringing down the Sky though was awesome. Bioware said in ME 2 sidequests will be like that so I can't wait for the sequal.

I meant in terms of gameplay. I'm not a fan of turn based combat. For me the western approach seems far more enjoyable. But like someone else in this thread said it's all down to taste.

Mass Effect is not "the western approach." Mass Effect is a b*stardized half-breed that takes the weakest elements of GRAW's shooting, Halo 3's art design, and KotOR's game design. (I guess that would make it a third-breed?)

KotOR is a great example of "the western approach," as are BioWare's pre-KotOR RPGs.

Mass effect battle system work though a lil clunky at times. I really enjoyed it. I could shoot people all day in the game. My gripe was more with the dialouge trees and how downgraded the game was from what it was supposed to be.
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I thougth mass effect would have been the best rpg ive played on the 360 to date but after playing LO I really enjoyed it way more than mass effect. Ive been hyping LO for some years now before anyone even caught on about the game. The game is really great but I just think kaim didnt have enough of a personality he seemed way too quiet through out the game. I know thats just a reflection of what hes been through but dam the guy barely speaks, jansen and seth are my 2 fav characters though, I pray for a part 2. LO is definetly the best jrpg ive played in some years now the game is really somthin. Next up INFINITE UNDISCOVERY.
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i really should pick up lost odyssey. im going through a bit of a Jrpg phase and am playing alot of FF games again (thank god for PS3 BC...now if only it could upscale them properly...get it sorted sony). lost odyssey certainly looks pretty good. not a revolution...sticks to the tried and tested and all that, but its supposed to be good at what it does from what i hear. dang still so many games....this, no more heros and okami at some stage...im going to busy. must check to see of theres any good ones on the VC also.

anywho i agree on the characters in mass effect....they were a bit boring. great game though overall.

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All the characters are awesome in Mass Effect.
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I thougth mass effect would have been the best rpg ive played on the 360 to date but after playing LO I really enjoyed it way more than mass effect. Ive been hyping LO for some years now before anyone even caught on about the game. The game is really great but I just think kaim didnt have enough of a personality he seemed way too quiet through out the game. I know thats just a reflection of what hes been through but dam the guy barely speaks, jansen and seth are my 2 fav characters though, I pray for a part 2. LO is definetly the best jrpg ive played in some years now the game is really somthin. Next up INFINITE UNDISCOVERY.bigboss5ak
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[QUOTE="Shazenab"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Shazenab"]I'll agree with the emotional parts, but as a game first and foremost I felt Mass effect was much better.mjarantilla

Sidequests were woth doing in LO. I can't say the same for Mass Effect. Bringing down the Sky though was awesome. Bioware said in ME 2 sidequests will be like that so I can't wait for the sequal.

I meant in terms of gameplay. I'm not a fan of turn based combat. For me the western approach seems far more enjoyable. But like someone else in this thread said it's all down to taste.

Mass Effect is not "the western approach." Mass Effect is a b*stardized half-breed that takes the weakest elements of GRAW's shooting, Halo 3's art design, and KotOR's game design. (I guess that would make it a third-breed?)

KotOR is a great example of "the western approach," as are BioWare's pre-KotOR RPGs.

In terms of varying combat I'd say it's very much westernised. JRPGs havn't evolved much since Final Fantasy VII, but western developers seem more obsessed with changing their gameplay style for better or worse. It just so happens we're going through a massive trend of accesibility over depth- Oblivion simplified it's gameplay, Bioshock toned down the rpg elements and Bioware have made Mass Effect easier to play.

The fact is Bioware could make the game far more deep if it was pc only, but they can't take the risk with the console market.

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Shazenab"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Shazenab"]I'll agree with the emotional parts, but as a game first and foremost I felt Mass effect was much better.too_much_eslim

Sidequests were woth doing in LO. I can't say the same for Mass Effect. Bringing down the Sky though was awesome. Bioware said in ME 2 sidequests will be like that so I can't wait for the sequal.

I meant in terms of gameplay. I'm not a fan of turn based combat. For me the western approach seems far more enjoyable. But like someone else in this thread said it's all down to taste.

Mass Effect is not "the western approach." Mass Effect is a b*stardized half-breed that takes the weakest elements of GRAW's shooting, Halo 3's art design, and KotOR's game design. (I guess that would make it a third-breed?)

KotOR is a great example of "the western approach," as are BioWare's pre-KotOR RPGs.

Mass effect battle system work though a lil clunky at times. I really enjoyed it. I could shoot people all day in the game. My gripe was more with the dialouge trees and how downgraded the game was from what it was supposed to be.

Mass Effect was too predictable, especially Feros and Noveria. You talk to the locals, then you embark on a linear shooting level divided into a driving section and a shooting section a la Halo. Therum was worse, because there were no locals to talk to. Just a long shooting level. And Ilos was terrible. It was nothing more than a long drive, with a bit of exposition at the end.

Feros, Noveria, and Therum could've been episodic expansion packs like the one recently released. That's how irrelevant and disconnected they were from one another. The only good worlds in Mass Effect were Virmire and the Citadel.

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Having played and beaten both games I can't say I agree with you, although I will say LO is one of the top five best rpgs I have ever played in my 15 years of gaming. But ME is just another world away in terms of adulthood and storytelling, while LO is just an incredible adventure with fine storytelling as well. For me, its just the western style of writing versus the Japanese style which sometiems features humor and drama in a way that defeats the point they are trying to make. Overall I feel ME is a 9.0 and LO a 8.7. Both are great games and if you have a 360 and like rpgs you need them. Even if you'e not an rpg fn rent them because either might turn you into one.
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[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]na, Lost Oddysee was boring IMHO. Im through the 2nd disc and dont see myself finishing it.too_much_eslim
second disk is the weakest disk in the game.

Funnily enough I saw him post the exact same thing on another thread but instead he got past disc 3. :| Fakeboi much?

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Shazenab"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Shazenab"]I'll agree with the emotional parts, but as a game first and foremost I felt Mass effect was much better.Shazenab

Sidequests were woth doing in LO. I can't say the same for Mass Effect. Bringing down the Sky though was awesome. Bioware said in ME 2 sidequests will be like that so I can't wait for the sequal.

I meant in terms of gameplay. I'm not a fan of turn based combat. For me the western approach seems far more enjoyable. But like someone else in this thread said it's all down to taste.

Mass Effect is not "the western approach." Mass Effect is a b*stardized half-breed that takes the weakest elements of GRAW's shooting, Halo 3's art design, and KotOR's game design. (I guess that would make it a third-breed?)

KotOR is a great example of "the western approach," as are BioWare's pre-KotOR RPGs.

In terms of varying combat I'd say it's very much westernised. JRPGs havn't evolved much since Final Fantasy VII, but western developers seem more obsessed with changing their gameplay style for better or worse. It just so happens we're going through a massive trend of accesibility over depth- Oblivion simplified it's gameplay, Bioshock toned down the rpg elements and Bioware have made Mass Effect easier to play.

The fact is Bioware could make the game far more deep if it was pc only, but they can't take the risk with the console market.

Bioshock isn't an RPG at all. Weapon customization does not amount to roleplaying. And Mass Effect was designed to be a shooter first. Its only real roleplaying section was the Citadel. There's as much depth to Mass Effect's combat system as there is in BioShock.

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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]I thougth mass effect would have been the best rpg ive played on the 360 to date but after playing LO I really enjoyed it way more than mass effect. Ive been hyping LO for some years now before anyone even caught on about the game. The game is really great but I just think kaim didnt have enough of a personality he seemed way too quiet through out the game. I know thats just a reflection of what hes been through but dam the guy barely speaks, jansen and seth are my 2 fav characters though, I pray for a part 2. LO is definetly the best jrpg ive played in some years now the game is really somthin. Next up INFINITE UNDISCOVERY.too_much_eslim
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Lost odyssey was boring to me, thats probably because i've seen 17 hours of spoil and it probably ruined the experinece for me. Have never play mass effect, most people said planets all look the same, and so do mines, sidequest are boring. To me it looks like kotor without any lightsaber. Besides, bioware never made a good game after baldur gate II shadows of amn.
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[QUOTE="Shazenab"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Shazenab"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Shazenab"]I'll agree with the emotional parts, but as a game first and foremost I felt Mass effect was much better.mjarantilla

Sidequests were woth doing in LO. I can't say the same for Mass Effect. Bringing down the Sky though was awesome. Bioware said in ME 2 sidequests will be like that so I can't wait for the sequal.

I meant in terms of gameplay. I'm not a fan of turn based combat. For me the western approach seems far more enjoyable. But like someone else in this thread said it's all down to taste.

Mass Effect is not "the western approach." Mass Effect is a b*stardized half-breed that takes the weakest elements of GRAW's shooting, Halo 3's art design, and KotOR's game design. (I guess that would make it a third-breed?)

KotOR is a great example of "the western approach," as are BioWare's pre-KotOR RPGs.

In terms of varying combat I'd say it's very much westernised. JRPGs havn't evolved much since Final Fantasy VII, but western developers seem more obsessed with changing their gameplay style for better or worse. It just so happens we're going through a massive trend of accesibility over depth- Oblivion simplified it's gameplay, Bioshock toned down the rpg elements and Bioware have made Mass Effect easier to play.

The fact is Bioware could make the game far more deep if it was pc only, but they can't take the risk with the console market.

Bioshock isn't an RPG at all. Weapon customization does not amount to roleplaying. And Mass Effect was designed to be a shooter first. Its only real roleplaying section was the Citadel. There's as much depth to Mass Effect's combat system as there is in BioShock.

But that's a bad thing? I dont disagree about mass effects combat at all, it was overly simplified for the mass market, but at least it was enjoyable and filled the gaps between plot points. I can't have been the only player in existance that played Final Fantasy VIII just to get from one pretty cut scene to the other.

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Shazenab"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Shazenab"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Shazenab"]I'll agree with the emotional parts, but as a game first and foremost I felt Mass effect was much better.Shazenab

Sidequests were woth doing in LO. I can't say the same for Mass Effect. Bringing down the Sky though was awesome. Bioware said in ME 2 sidequests will be like that so I can't wait for the sequal.

I meant in terms of gameplay. I'm not a fan of turn based combat. For me the western approach seems far more enjoyable. But like someone else in this thread said it's all down to taste.

Mass Effect is not "the western approach." Mass Effect is a b*stardized half-breed that takes the weakest elements of GRAW's shooting, Halo 3's art design, and KotOR's game design. (I guess that would make it a third-breed?)

KotOR is a great example of "the western approach," as are BioWare's pre-KotOR RPGs.

In terms of varying combat I'd say it's very much westernised. JRPGs havn't evolved much since Final Fantasy VII, but western developers seem more obsessed with changing their gameplay style for better or worse. It just so happens we're going through a massive trend of accesibility over depth- Oblivion simplified it's gameplay, Bioshock toned down the rpg elements and Bioware have made Mass Effect easier to play.

The fact is Bioware could make the game far more deep if it was pc only, but they can't take the risk with the console market.

Bioshock isn't an RPG at all. Weapon customization does not amount to roleplaying. And Mass Effect was designed to be a shooter first. Its only real roleplaying section was the Citadel. There's as much depth to Mass Effect's combat system as there is in BioShock.

But that's a bad thing? I dont disagree about mass effects combat at all, it was overly simplified for the mass market, but at least it was enjoyable and filled the gaps between plot points. I can't have been the only player in existance that played Final Fantasy VIII just to get from one pretty cut scene to the other.

Bad thing? I dunno. But after playing it, I don't consider it an RPG anymore.

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what's the deal? both games are great

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LO, you play through it, maybe twice to get all of the "secrets", ME you play through it MANY times, not just for "secrets" but to use the different classes and see the different dialogs in the game, like, on my second time through ME, I got Saran to shoot himself in the head during the end of the game. Two very different games in the aspect of gameplay, so I try not to compare them, overall, I SERIOUSLY believe LO was underated.

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#34 SSJ_Nega
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In all honesty Mass Effect was a bit of a dissapointment for me, i really did not enjoy it. I'll be picking up Lost Odyssey really soon and i'm hoping it'll be good.
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LO, you play through it, maybe twice to get all of the "secrets", ME you play through it MANY times, not just for "secrets" but to use the different classes and see the different dialogs in the game, like, on my second time through ME, I got Saran to shoot himself in the head during the end of the game. Two very different games in the aspect of gameplay, so I try not to compare them, overall, I SERIOUSLY believe LO was underated.

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#36 toxicmog
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much better than ME, ME was rubbish and flet unfinished, not to mention the short length
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#37 bstarter29
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I completely agree. Lost Odyssey was incredible. There countless times in which the game gave me goosebumps. The music, the writing, the story, the gameplay, everything. It was amazing. I absolutely loved the dreams and can't wait for DLC to hit here because another dream sequence is included. Mass Effect was very good, but, while I didn't not like it, I felt underwhelmed by it. I really though the story would grasp me like KOTOR's did, but the game came and went so quickly, you really couldn't get attatched to it.
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I haven't picked up Lost Odyssey yet, since I'm still playing through Mass Effect for a second time (and Persona 3, and Smash Bros., and now Crisis Core), but it's #1 on my list of games to pick up, so I'm glad to see all the positive feedback it's been getting recently. However, I find it hard to believe that I'll enjoy it more than Mass Effect. Mass Effect has plenty of flaws, of course, but it's got so many things to offset those flaws that I just never really bothered to worry about them.

Let's look at the combat: A little spastic at times, perhaps, and I suppose it could get boring if you just shot everything, over and over (although I love running through enemies with my spectre shotgun; can't beat it). However, the real fun in the game's combat comes in balancing biotics and abilities with weapons. The biotic powers in the game are similar to some of the ones in KotOR: You've got the ability to push things away, to lift them up, and to drain energy from them, among others. In the beginning of the game, I didn't use biotic powers much, as I didn't have very many good ones, and neither did the squad I used (Garrus and Ashley). However, by the end of the game, I was using biotic powers constantly, and supplementing them with the few abilities I found most useful: Unity (although my squad didn't die too often), Adrenaline Rush, and Carnage (which I just enjoyed using). If you judge Mass Effect solely on its shooter mechanics, the combat is a slight failure; this is no Gears of War. However, once you thrown in the KotOR-esque abilities (albeit many fewer of them), the combat is a lot of fun.

Next up, sidequests. I'll admit, the exploration of generic worlds does drag on a bit; I simply didn't mind too much because there was frequently combat waiting for me at the end (which I enjoyed), and every once in a while I'd pick up a useful item. Besides, if you get sick of planetary exploration, just skip it. I found the sidequests on the Citadel to be interesting and fun, because A) you got to explore the Citadel, and B) you feel that the Citadel is much more organic if you talk to its people.

Finally, the main parts of the quest. I'll admit that I was slightly disappointed at how "small" the game felt to me (I remembered KotOR being larger, although that's not entirely true), but I chalked it up to Bioware trying to create a specific narrative (which I'll discuss in a moment). I found all the locations in the game at the very least interesting (Noveria, Feros, Ilos), and I thoroughly enjoyed them all, especially Virmire. To me, the linear-ness of the locations is again a product of the narrativ--the game was set on a specific course, and you were too. I found KotOR less linear, but I also found the story to be less concentrated and satisfying (although still very cool). And even Feros and Noveria have some interesting people to talk to, and things to find out.

In the end, Mass Effect is a WRPG with a JRPG-like tendency towards telling a detailed story at the expense of some of the freedom traditionally associated with the genre. Will you love Mass Effect? That depends on what you think of the story. I personally found the story to be excellent (one of the better ones in a game), and the entire game was essentially me controlling the characters in one of the most interesting sci-fi stores I've seen/read in a while. Even Ilos was extremely interesting to me, because I felt like I was on the verge of making a huge discovery in the world of Mass Effect. When Mass Effect 2 comes out, I ask for 3 things: That they expand on the first game (longer and more detailed), that they allow you to carry over your character from the first game (what's the point of playing through a trilogy as "one" guy, if you play a different guy every game), and that they keep up the narrative quality of the first game. Here's to hoping the wait for all I just asked for isn't too long...

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i cant get myself to finish of Lost Odyssey yet....still at disc 2. Mostly becasue i have been busy with other work.
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na, Lost Oddysee was boring IMHO. Im through the 2nd disc and dont see myself finishing it.RazMaTaz-1

Same, I'm at the city Gohtza and don't really feel like picking it up, gonna try though.

Haven't played ME so can't really comment.

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Is there a demo of LO? I'd love to try it out before buying it. I'm kinda on the fence.
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#42 thegoldenpoo
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]No. You just prefer JRPGs. Don't get it twisted.f50p90

QFT

I prefer JRPGs as well

you prefer bad games?
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#43 clone01
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i'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on this one.
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[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]na, Lost Oddysee was boring IMHO. Im through the 2nd disc and dont see myself finishing it.Chutebox

Same, I'm at the city Gohtza and don't really feel like picking it up, gonna try though.

Haven't played ME so can't really comment.

things pick up after disk 2.
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Is there a demo of LO? I'd love to try it out before buying it. I'm kinda on the fence.Ninja-Hippo
rent it then. there will not be a demo of it. if you like past FF games this game is a no-brainer.
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First thing first. Mass Effect is awesome. I love that game. I am currently on a second playthrough and will probably play it 3 more times. However LO was just better. It hit all parts of your emotions that ME just didn't do. There was no humor in Mass Effect whatsoever. Also I couldn't really see a difference in being good or eveil. In kotor you would gain Sith powers or Jedi powers. You don't gain anything like that in this game so I never really saw a reason to be bad. Despite all ts faults it was still anawesome game and great experience.

LO though blew me away from start from finish. It hit all the emotions a human can have. Battle system was awesome, dungeons were short and not repetitive. The locales were different and doing all the sidequest in this game were worth it in comparison to Mass Effect. Sidequest were just ok in Mass Effect. Story wise I'll give to Mass efect because it really made me feel as though I was fighting for more then just myself in comparison to LO, but the Dream Sequences in LO are fantastic. It is truly a great read.

Both games were fun, both games I recomend, but LO is superior to Mass Effect.

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You are one awkward purrson but i agree with the story and emotional impact. You know when You keep thinking throughout the day about that game You are playing? Well it made the game stick with me like that. I did find it to become repetitive though. Maybe it was a bit too oldschool for me. In that regard Mass Effect was more interesting to me, and its setting too i think. Hm i wouldn't want to choose between them.
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Is there a demo of LO? I'd love to try it out before buying it. I'm kinda on the fence.too_much_eslim
rent it then. there will not be a demo of it. if you like past FF games this game is a no-brainer.

That's what i was told about Blue Dragon though, and that game was mediocre at best. :?

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A game > AAA game :?
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#49 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Is there a demo of LO? I'd love to try it out before buying it. I'm kinda on the fence.Ninja-Hippo

rent it then. there will not be a demo of it. if you like past FF games this game is a no-brainer.

That's what i was told about Blue Dragon though, and that game was mediocre at best. :?

no I'll be honest BD isn't for everyboody. I find it a good game, but I wouldn't recommend it to people. LO however should be played.
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#50 too_much_eslim
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A game > AAA game :?meetroid8
playing both games> then your point