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#1 girl_pounder
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Two weeks to go. The greatest team based shooter to ever hit since Battlefield 2 for PC. To think we are gaming in an age where 256 people are squaring off inside your living room is hard to realize. Get ready gentleman, the new year has ushered in the future of gaming. This is it, prepare for the Shadow War.
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#2 StealthMonkey4
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Except the gameplay is broken, the graphics are terrible, and hardly anybody even works together.
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#3 Skittles_McGee
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You're really over MAGnifying the game's quality.
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#4 Yandere
Member since 2009 • 9878 Posts

Look into "MMOFPS" before you make another topic about MAG.

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Two weeks to go. The greatest team based shooter to ever hit since Battlefield 2 for PC. To think we are gaming in an age where 256 people are squaring off inside your living room is hard to realize. Get ready gentleman, the new year has ushered in the future of gaming. This is it, prepare for the Shadow War.girl_pounder

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#6 Regisland
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Wow MAG is so underated,graphics are not sooo bad and graphics dont make a game....gameplay is not broken,i played the beta and it was just fine.You will never learn what teamwork is in gaming is until you play online games(specially Metal Gear Online) with japanese people.

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#7 Sully28
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Except the gameplay is broken, the graphics are terrible, and hardly anybody even works together.StealthMonkey4
You really must not have played for more then 10 mins, or havent even played a 256 player game. The graphics are nothing to brag about, but the gameplay and teamwork is where the game shines. I havent experienced this level of team work since playing battlefield 2 on PC. Everyone was communicating in every game i played, the squad leaders listened to requests of squad mates, and everyone just generally worked together.

EDIT: also i want to point out i hated the game in the first two betas, it had a ton of problems but i played on. When the public beta was put out last week that is when i was won over.

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#8 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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If you honestly care about MAG's graphics then good riddance to you.

Secondly, the gameplay is not buggy or broken. And it's almost entirely lag-free. I think someone is just a sad panda because they had to wait in a queue for a couple minutes. ='[

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#9 StealthMonkey4
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]Except the gameplay is broken, the graphics are terrible, and hardly anybody even works together.Sully28

You really must not have played for more then 10 mins, or havent even played a 256 player game. The graphics are nothing to brag about, but the gameplay and teamwork is where the game shines. I havent experienced this level of team work since playing battlefield 2 on PC. Everyone was communicating in every game i played, the squad leaders listened to requests of squad mates, and everyone just generally worked together.

I played 4-5 rounds and each round was completely silent except for the occasional cough. The gameplay just felt lame and generic.
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#10 girl_pounder
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Except the gameplay is broken, the graphics are terrible, and hardly anybody even works together.StealthMonkey4
Don't be so sure to count MAG out bucko.
You're really over MAGnifying the game's quality.Skittles_McGee
Lol ok little cheesy, I know, just go with it for now. This game has heart. It's hard to find those kind of qualities in FPS games this day and age.
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#12 StealthMonkey4
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]Except the gameplay is broken, the graphics are terrible, and hardly anybody even works together.girl_pounder
Don't be so sure to count MAG out bucko.
You're really over MAGnifying the game's quality.Skittles_McGee
Lol ok little cheesy, I know, just go with it for now. This game has heart. It's hard to find those kind of qualities in FPS games this day and age.

There was nothing really special about it. I played the demo and if you put aside the fact that it has 256 players it just feels like a generic FPS.
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#13 _Judge_Gabranth
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]Except the gameplay is broken, the graphics are terrible, and hardly anybody even works together.Sully28

You really must not have played for more then 10 mins, or havent even played a 256 player game. The graphics are nothing to brag about, but the gameplay and teamwork is where the game shines. I havent experienced this level of team work since playing battlefield 2 on PC. Everyone was communicating in every game i played, the squad leaders listened to requests of squad mates, and everyone just generally worked together.

What MAG were you playing? I never saw any teamwork. MAGs biggest gimmick is what really holds it back its hard to get 8 people to work together let alone 128 people. I really like the gunplay but the lack of teamwork and repetativness really holds it back.

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#14 Omustu
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It's looking to be a great shooter, but i prefer smaller tactical based teams rather than 64 players on each side.

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#15 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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I don't understand how it's a game's fault for what the players do.

The game can only do so much. They offer XP incentives to follow your Squad Leader and Platoon Leader's orders, it's really on the player's shoulders to figure it out from there.

There was a lack of teamwork, but it was also the beta. I think I played with maybe ten squad leaders the entire time, and most of them knew what they were doing.

When people realize they get more experience when sticking with their squads, they'll learn to play as a team.

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#16 Colin1192
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it isnt like it is all 256 in one spot. Squads are broken down so you are in relatively small battles and not large ones. It is like 10 small matches but they packaged it into one match

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#17 Dead-Memories
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To even compare MAG to BF 2 in terms of quality is a disgrace on far too many levels for the human mind to comprehend.
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#18 girl_pounder
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

I don't understand how it's a game's fault for what the players do.

The game can only do so much. They offer XP incentives to follow your Squad Leader and Platoon Leader's orders, it's really on the player's shoulders to figure it out from there.

There was a lack of teamwork, but it was also the beta. I think I played with maybe ten squad leaders the entire time, and most of them knew what they were doing.

When people realize they get more experience when sticking with their squads, they'll learn to play as a team.

Lead a horse to fresh water, but to make it drink is another thing. I believe that some players were treating this game like any other shooter. Once they realized that this one was different they likely grabbed their mics since things can get ugly fast without communication. I would bet that others have also planned to buy a mic (bundle?). For the sake of every silent squad out there we can only hope.
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#19 Midnightshade29
Member since 2008 • 6003 Posts

Wow MAG is so underated,graphics are not sooo bad and graphics dont make a game....gameplay is not broken,i played the beta and it was just fine.You will never learn what teamwork is in gaming is until you play online games(specially Metal Gear Online) with japanese people.

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I agree , and I only played the first beta when apparently it wasn't as polished.. it was goood then and Iam sure even better now... People on this sys wars forum hate mag as much as they hate the psp... yet it is loved on other sites I visit.
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#20 Sully28
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[QUOTE="Sully28"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]Except the gameplay is broken, the graphics are terrible, and hardly anybody even works together.StealthMonkey4

You really must not have played for more then 10 mins, or havent even played a 256 player game. The graphics are nothing to brag about, but the gameplay and teamwork is where the game shines. I havent experienced this level of team work since playing battlefield 2 on PC. Everyone was communicating in every game i played, the squad leaders listened to requests of squad mates, and everyone just generally worked together.

I played 4-5 rounds and each round was completely silent except for the occasional cough. The gameplay just felt lame and generic.

Exactly, you are helping my point. The regular sabotage missions(64 players) play like a normal shooter, you go to point A, shoot some guys, blow up the objective, and go to point B. The sabatoge games are basically just a way of working you up for the 256 player battles which are locked untill you reach level 10(takes maybe 2-4 hours to reach, depending how good you are.). In sabotage there is no chain of command, squad leaders are pointless and im not even sure if there are any higher poisitions on the battlefield during those games. There is team work involved, but nothing more then an average shooter.

In the 256 player games you are given multiple objectives to attack or defend, there are an insane amount of enemies everywhere, and there is honestly not a minute for you to take a break. It is insanity. The best way to describe it is battlefield 2 on steroids. If they put out a demo i highley reccomend you try it untill you get to play a few 256 player battles, thats when the fun starts.

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#21 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]Except the gameplay is broken, the graphics are terrible, and hardly anybody even works together.Sully28

You really must not have played for more then 10 mins, or havent even played a 256 player game. The graphics are nothing to brag about, but the gameplay and teamwork is where the game shines. I havent experienced this level of team work since playing battlefield 2 on PC. Everyone was communicating in every game i played, the squad leaders listened to requests of squad mates, and everyone just generally worked together.

EDIT: also i want to point out i hated the game in the first two betas, it had a ton of problems but i played on. When the public beta was put out last week that is when i was won over.

I have, i can bet i played it more then you, and none of that happend except rarely. more often then not the person that won the match for the attacking team was a single guy sneaking behind enemy lines and taking out hard positions.
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#22 bobbetybob
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[QUOTE="girl_pounder"]Two weeks to go. The greatest team based shooter to ever hit since Battlefield 2 for PC. To think we are gaming in an age where 256 people are squaring off inside your living room is hard to realize. Get ready gentleman, the new year has ushered in the future of gaming. This is it, prepare for the Shadow War.bez2083

Best username I've seen in awhile here.

Quite ironic as well most likely.
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[QUOTE="girl_pounder"][QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"] Don't be so sure to count MAG out bucko. [QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]You're really over MAGnifying the game's quality.StealthMonkey4
Lol ok little cheesy, I know, just go with it for now. This game has heart. It's hard to find those kind of qualities in FPS games this day and age.

There was nothing really special about it. I played the demo and if you put aside the fact that it has 256 players it just feels like a generic FPS.

Its the 256 player thing that sets it apart. You can say "aside from the fact that-" about any game and make it generic.

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#24 StealthMonkey4
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"][QUOTE="girl_pounder"] Lol ok little cheesy, I know, just go with it for now. This game has heart. It's hard to find those kind of qualities in FPS games this day and age.brennan7777

There was nothing really special about it. I played the demo and if you put aside the fact that it has 256 players it just feels like a generic FPS.

Its the 256 player thing that sets it apart. You can say "aside from the fact that-" about any game and make it generic.

The 256 player thing just seems tacked on and doesn't add anything good to the game really. I'd preferred if it stuck to 64 player or below matches.

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#25 BodyElite
Member since 2009 • 2678 Posts

The game is hideous. After playing the Beta i thought it was some sort of joke the devs were playing on me. Definitely not getting this

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#26 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Regisland"]

Wow MAG is so underated,graphics are not sooo bad and graphics dont make a game....gameplay is not broken,i played the beta and it was just fine.You will never learn what teamwork is in gaming is until you play online games(specially Metal Gear Online) with japanese people.

Midnightshade29

I agree , and I only played the first beta when apparently it wasn't as polished.. it was goood then and Iam sure even better now... People on this sys wars forum hate mag as much as they hate the psp... yet it is loved on other sites I visit.

Have you been on Gametrailers? It's worse, people even canceled their preorders, they hate it more than System Wars! I found the beta decent actually as well.

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#27 illegalimigrant
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[QUOTE="Sully28"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]Except the gameplay is broken, the graphics are terrible, and hardly anybody even works together.StealthMonkey4

You really must not have played for more then 10 mins, or havent even played a 256 player game. The graphics are nothing to brag about, but the gameplay and teamwork is where the game shines. I havent experienced this level of team work since playing battlefield 2 on PC. Everyone was communicating in every game i played, the squad leaders listened to requests of squad mates, and everyone just generally worked together.

I played 4-5 rounds and each round was completely silent except for the occasional cough. The gameplay just felt lame and generic.

I don't understand your vague comments. Why is it that whenever someone comments something negative about this game is always something vague?
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#28 mD-
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MAG is horrid..

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#29 illegalimigrant
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it isnt like it is all 256 in one spot. Squads are broken down so you are in relatively small battles and not large ones. It is like 10 small matches but they packaged it into one match

Colin1192
You haven't played it have you? Can't you say that about all games. Even in battlefield 2. Its not really 64 players is more like 12 players fighting for one flag while the others are fighting for another flag right next to it. And the rest are either supporting or getting to the spot. What do you people expect for the 256 players to be lined up and trade fire like a gentlemen's duel?
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#30 illegalimigrant
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MAG is horrid..

mD-
Thanks for the vague comment!!!
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#31 illegalimigrant
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"][QUOTE="girl_pounder"][QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"] Don't be so sure to count MAG out bucko.
You're really over MAGnifying the game's quality.Skittles_McGee
Lol ok little cheesy, I know, just go with it for now. This game has heart. It's hard to find those kind of qualities in FPS games this day and age.

There was nothing really special about it. I played the demo and if you put aside the fact that it has 256 players it just feels like a generic FPS.

There is no demo its a beta. And you can't play in 256 player matches until you are level 10 so if you did not like the game you probably never saw the 256 player matches.
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#32 illegalimigrant
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"][QUOTE="Sully28"] You really must not have played for more then 10 mins, or havent even played a 256 player game. The graphics are nothing to brag about, but the gameplay and teamwork is where the game shines. I havent experienced this level of team work since playing battlefield 2 on PC. Everyone was communicating in every game i played, the squad leaders listened to requests of squad mates, and everyone just generally worked together.

Sully28

I played 4-5 rounds and each round was completely silent except for the occasional cough. The gameplay just felt lame and generic.

Exactly, you are helping my point. The regular sabotage missions(64 players) play like a normal shooter, you go to point A, shoot some guys, blow up the objective, and go to point B. The sabatoge games are basically just a way of working you up for the 256 player battles which are locked untill you reach level 10(takes maybe 2-4 hours to reach, depending how good you are.). In sabotage there is no chain of command, squad leaders are pointless and im not even sure if there are any higher poisitions on the battlefield during those games. There is team work involved, but nothing more then an average shooter.

In the 256 player games you are given multiple objectives to attack or defend, there are an insane amount of enemies everywhere, and there is honestly not a minute for you to take a break. It is insanity. The best way to describe it is battlefield 2 on steroids. If they put out a demo i highley reccomend you try it untill you get to play a few 256 player battles, thats when the fun starts.

This is how I feel. And the 256 battle's are too intense for me so I stuck with sabotage till I figure out how to take those pesky towers out. I'm a Raven BTW.
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#33 mD-
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[QUOTE="mD-"]

MAG is horrid..

illegalimigrant
Thanks for the vague comment!!!

I played in the beta for 20 mins (until I had enough). The visuals aren't great at all, the gameplay lacks the intensity you'd find in something like Killzone 2, and it just doesn't feel fresh when playing. There are certainly a lot of people to kill, but it doesn't feel as massive as 100+ people. It will be a decent shooter, but the 256 player gameplay isn't looking as great as people want it to be. I went back to playing BF2 Beta and had more fun playing that game.
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#34 illegalimigrant
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[QUOTE="Sully28"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]Except the gameplay is broken, the graphics are terrible, and hardly anybody even works together.WilliamRLBaker

You really must not have played for more then 10 mins, or havent even played a 256 player game. The graphics are nothing to brag about, but the gameplay and teamwork is where the game shines. I havent experienced this level of team work since playing battlefield 2 on PC. Everyone was communicating in every game i played, the squad leaders listened to requests of squad mates, and everyone just generally worked together.

EDIT: also i want to point out i hated the game in the first two betas, it had a ton of problems but i played on. When the public beta was put out last week that is when i was won over.

I have, i can bet i played it more then you, and none of that happend except rarely. more often then not the person that won the match for the attacking team was a single guy sneaking behind enemy lines and taking out hard positions.

Then you really did not play the game. What is your faction. What level are you?
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I thought the game sucked personally. No originality, horrible gun play, abysmal sound...

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#36 illegalimigrant
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[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"][QUOTE="mD-"]

MAG is horrid..

mD-
Thanks for the vague comment!!!

I played in the beta for 20 mins (until I had enough). The visuals aren't great at all, the gameplay lacks the intensity you'd find in something like Killzone 2, and it just doesn't feel fresh when playing. There are certainly a lot of people to kill, but it doesn't feel as massive as 100+ people. It will be a decent shooter, but the 256 player gameplay isn't looking as great as people want it to be. I went back to playing BF2 Beta and had more fun playing that game.

You can't play 256 matches until you are level 10 you were playing 64 player matches that is the max number of people in battlefield 2. If you are talking about battlefield bad company 2 beta then the max is 24. I agree BFBC2 has better gameplay but the battles are too small for my tastes.
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#37 oajlu
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2 faction with 256p in a single game is not a big innovation.

if they make it 3 factions (parties) with a lot of players in a single game and organized, it would be revolutional like starcraft.

anyway, I think it will have less than 100,000 ppl online in a month.

probably less than 5,000ppl online in an year, like killzone 2...then what's point having 256p maps, if it doesnt have enough players.

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#38 gamefan67
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I thought the game sucked personally. No originality, horrible gun play, abysmal sound...

Wasdie
This sums up my opinion of the game pretty well......
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#39 illegalimigrant
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2 faction with 256p in a single game is not a big innovation.

if they make it 3 factions (parties) with a lot of players in a single game and organized, it would be revolutional like starcraft.

anyway, I think it will have less than 100,000 ppl online in a month.

probably less than 5,000ppl online in an year, like killzone 2...then what's point having 256p maps, if it doesnt have enough players.

oajlu
And if Halo had zero players it would be the worst online game ever! I fail to see your point. The beta had enough players to have a match every 10 seconds. So I could care less.
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#40 Holden1985
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Bf2 is 10 time's the game Mag will ever be!

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#41 _Impmacaque_
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I thought the game sucked personally. No originality, horrible gun play, abysmal sound...

Wasdie

x2. MAG was a huge dissapointment for me.

256 players only seems impressive. It looks kinda cool seeing that many people shoot at eachother, but that's the extent of the praise I have for this game. The gameplay is entirely unoriginal and uninspired - the guns are unsatisfying to use and the graphics/sound leave a lot to be desired. I don't usually care about things like top-notch graphics and sound, but this game lacks in so many other areas that it feels like just more fail added to a pile of suckage.

I didn't enjoy playing with 90% of people who had no headsets. If anything, this is the kind of game that should come packaged with a damned headset. To focus so heavily on tactical organization of teammates yet have no consistent means of communication with said teammates is beyond frustrating. Oh, and being killed 9 out of 10 times by enemies you can't even see is just icing on the cake.

To top it all off, this game just isn't fun. It somehow lacks a replay value that even more generic multiplayer FPS games have. Maybe it's the super-limited amount of maps, maybe it's the throw-away contract system, maybe it's the crappyness of the game as a whole.. There's just very little to this game aside from throwing large amounts of players together in an un-coordinated deathmatch. It's not the type of game I could see myself pulling all-nighters with. I'd get bored after an hour, if that.

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#42 UltimoIce
Member since 2009 • 3074 Posts

Can't wait. It's much more fun stalking victims when you don't know where they are going to come from. Takes a lot more skill as well. I can't stand small, crowded maps where I have to kill the same 4 people over and over again.

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#43 2mrw
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the game preoorders are unexpectdly high, around 200 k.+according to Vghcartz , it may turn out to be better than we think, but i am not intrested, rightnow i wanna get KZ2 b4 anything else.

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#44 SPYDER0416
Member since 2008 • 16736 Posts

Just like with SOCOM, I think MAG will polarize people. It has a better appeal than SOCOM though, so i I think scores will be better and public reception will be much more appreciative. Its just that MAG really relies on teamwork and the whole faction loyalty angle sort of serves to get you into the team mentality and into a clan. Even if you don't play team wise (which is the best way to play), the normal go out and shoot play style can work in the absence of friends, even if it isn't a CoD game in regards to this playstyle.

It will definitely make a huge splash if all the MAG threads here are any indication.

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#45 HavocV3
Member since 2009 • 8068 Posts

A PC shooter already did ~400 people on a map, back in 2003.

where have you BEEN?

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#46 HavocV3
Member since 2009 • 8068 Posts

Wow MAG is so underated,graphics are not sooo bad and graphics dont make a game....gameplay is not broken,i played the beta and it was just fine.You will never learn what teamwork is in gaming is until you play online games(specially Metal Gear Online) with japanese people.

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wow, when I try that one, the PS3 fanatics just ignore it and play with their 'graphics king' terms when Crysis sits back in 2007, always unnoticed.

the animations are simply pathetic. Even Left 4 Dead, that gets attention for poor graphics does everything better, including multiplayer.

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#47 racing1750
Member since 2010 • 14567 Posts

If you honestly care about MAG's graphics then good riddance to you.

Secondly, the gameplay is not buggy or broken. And it's almost entirely lag-free. I think someone is just a sad panda because they had to wait in a queue for a couple minutes. ='[

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Yep the lack of any LAG is impressive.
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#48 racing1750
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the game preoorders are unexpectdly high, around 200 k.+according to Vghcartz , it may turn out to be better than we think, but i am not intrested, rightnow i wanna get KZ2 b4 anything else.

2mrw
killzone 2 has the best MP on the PS3 imo, you should pick it up ASAP :)
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#49 river_rat3117
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ill take socom over mag. zipper got it right the first time why they moved on ill never know. ill still be getting mag first day though
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#50 lhughey
Member since 2006 • 4886 Posts
i'm not impressed by MAG one bit. Its just there.