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So Madden on the 360 runs at 60 frames and 30 frames on the Playstation3. Why? I thought the PS3supposedly had the more powerful hardware. Anyone know the real reason(s)?Trashface
Quick Answer : Sony lies. if that wasn't the case then Madden would be running at 120fps at 1080p in 4d. :)
So Madden on the 360 runs at 60 frames and 30 frames on the Playstation3. Why? I thought the PS3supposedly had the more powerful hardware. Anyone know the real reason(s)?TrashfaceBeecause Sony shafted the developers by making a $600 console that not a lot of people can afford right now.
[QUOTE="Trashface"]So Madden on the 360 runs at 60 frames and 30 frames on the Playstation3. Why? I thought the PS3supposedly had the more powerful hardware. Anyone know the real reason(s)?Nugtoka
Quick Answer : Sony lies.
To an extent, the PS3 is a more powerful machine than the 360, the problem is thanks to various bottlenecks in the system is accessing that extra power. On paper the PS3 crushes the 360, in practice, as the 360 is so designer friendly, it tends to outpace the PS3. Hence the reason why all EA have struggled on the PS3, the company itself seems to be having problems with the machine.
[QUOTE="Trashface"]So Madden on the 360 runs at 60 frames and 30 frames on the Playstation3. Why? I thought the PS3supposedly had the more powerful hardware. Anyone know the real reason(s)?Nugtoka
Quick Answer : Sony lies. if that wasn't the case then Madden would be running at 120fps at 1080p in 4d. :)
wow i hope this is sarcastic stick because i guess sony made the game then right. man if halo floped the lemmings would blame sony for it. your cat can get run over by a car and i bet you make a topic sony killed my cat.Wow after reading the first few responses I am dissappointed in the SW community. The REAL reason it was "shafted" with that madden at 30fps was because EA didnt have enough time with the PS3 to optimize it at 60fps. How quickly people forget that the 360 had 2 Maddens that were 30fps before EA finally felt comfortable enough with the system to optimize it at 60fps.
And if I recall correctly, both games got the same score as well at GS so what is the big deal again. Dont worry, next year Madden will be 60fps just like the 360 version.
[QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="Trashface"]So Madden on the 360 runs at 60 frames and 30 frames on the Playstation3. Why? I thought the PS3supposedly had the more powerful hardware. Anyone know the real reason(s)?blue_hazy_basic
Quick Answer : Sony lies.
To an extent, the PS3 is a more powerful machine than the 360, the problem is thanks to various bottlenecks in the system is accessing that extra power. On paper the PS3 crushes the 360, in practice, as the 360 is so designer friendly, it tends to outpace the PS3. Hence the reason why all EA have struggled on the PS3, the company itself seems to be having problems with the machine.
]Right! on paper! A paper Sony prepared. The only people saying that the Ps3 is more powerful is Sony and there exclusive developers. that E3 05 stats on paper are worthless. A systems peak power meaning nothing in the world of software development. its all about a systems balance. The cell processor was not designedwiththe Ps3 in mind it was just used because they had so much R&D sunk into it ,not because it was the best choice. Also Sony was more concerned with getting Blueray on the market this is clearly the reason for the extra year wait and the $600 price tag. After the blatant lies Sony spewed before the launch of the PS3, and you have to admit thereclamswherepretty ridiculous, seems like they where willing to tell there fan base anything to get a blueray player in there home. I find this shameless. The PS3 has no secret hidden power sorry your little 3 year old paper is meaningless.
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="Trashface"]So Madden on the 360 runs at 60 frames and 30 frames on the Playstation3. Why? I thought the PS3supposedly had the more powerful hardware. Anyone know the real reason(s)?Nugtoka
Quick Answer : Sony lies.
To an extent, the PS3 is a more powerful machine than the 360, the problem is thanks to various bottlenecks in the system is accessing that extra power. On paper the PS3 crushes the 360, in practice, as the 360 is so designer friendly, it tends to outpace the PS3. Hence the reason why all EA have struggled on the PS3, the company itself seems to be having problems with the machine.
]Right! on paper! A paper Sony prepared. The only people saying that the Ps3 is more powerful is Sony and there exclusive developers. that E3 05 stats on paper are worthless. A systems peak power meaning nothing in the world of software development. its all about a systems balance. The cell processor was not designedwiththe Ps3 in mind it was just used because they had so much R&D sunk into it ,not because it was the best choice. Also Sony was more concerned with getting Blueray on the market this is clearly the reason for the extra year wait and the $600 price tag. After the blatant lies Sony spewed before the launch of the PS3, and you have to admit thereclamswherepretty ridiculous, seems like they where willing to tell there fan base anything to get a blueray player in there home. I find this shameless. The PS3 has no secret hidden power sorry your little 3 year old paper is meaningless.
Dude I'm no Sony fan,but what I said is true. The PS3 is theoretically more powerful,but dueto bottlenecks, in practice it is not. The 360 is also designer friendly, unlike the hideously complex PS3. Like you said the PS3 was not designed primarily for gaming and this is why it has the problems it does. I think you misunderstood where I was coming from.actually the most ps3' sold have been in NA out of all the regionsbut yeah the userbase is small enough where EA has decided to use the 360 as the lead platform for all games and port them to the ps3 and that can be difficult this gen, especially with the difficulty of programming for PS3.Small user base with a large percentage of them Japanese, that dont play Football.
TheOwnerOner
[QUOTE="Trashface"]So Madden on the 360 runs at 60 frames and 30 frames on the Playstation3. Why? I thought the PS3supposedly had the more powerful hardware. Anyone know the real reason(s)?Nugtoka
Quick Answer : Sony lies. if that wasn't the case then Madden would be running at 120fps at 1080p in 4d. :)
so true. :) plus EA is a bunch of cheap ***'s and never want to make a game the best they possibly can. theyre fine with making a mediocre game, as long as it sells
[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]actually the most ps3' sold have been in NA out of all the regionsbut yeah the userbase is small enough where EA has decided to use the 360 as the lead platform for all games and port them to the ps3 and that can be difficult this gen, especially with the difficulty of programming for PS3.Small user base with a large percentage of them Japanese, that dont play Football.
mmirza23
hence his use of the word percentage?
[QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="Trashface"]So Madden on the 360 runs at 60 frames and 30 frames on the Playstation3. Why? I thought the PS3supposedly had the more powerful hardware. Anyone know the real reason(s)?blue_hazy_basic
Quick Answer : Sony lies.
To an extent, the PS3 is a more powerful machine than the 360, the problem is thanks to various bottlenecks in the system is accessing that extra power. On paper the PS3 crushes the 360, in practice, as the 360 is so designer friendly, it tends to outpace the PS3. Hence the reason why all EA have struggled on the PS3, the company itself seems to be having problems with the machine.
]Right! on paper! A paper Sony prepared. The only people saying that the Ps3 is more powerful is Sony and there exclusive developers. that E3 05 stats on paper are worthless. A systems peak power meaning nothing in the world of software development. its all about a systems balance. The cell processor was not designedwiththe Ps3 in mind it was just used because they had so much R&D sunk into it ,not because it was the best choice. Also Sony was more concerned with getting Blueray on the market this is clearly the reason for the extra year wait and the $600 price tag. After the blatant lies Sony spewed before the launch of the PS3, and you have to admit thereclamswherepretty ridiculous, seems like they where willing to tell there fan base anything to get a blueray player in there home. I find this shameless. The PS3 has no secret hidden power sorry your little 3 year old paper is meaningless.
Dude I'm no Sony fan,but what I said is true. The PS3 is theoretically more powerful,but dueto bottlenecks, in practice it is not. Like you said the PS3 was not designed primarily for gaming and this is why it has the problems it does. I think you misunderstood where I was coming from.No its not more powerful sorry you would need a lot more scientific scrutiny in order to say that something is "theoreticly" more powerful not just a paper prepared by Sony's R&D and requested and filtered through its marketing department. Don't believe everything you read. especially from a company notorious for misleading their customers and flat out ling to the public.
[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]actually the most ps3' sold have been in NA out of all the regionsbut yeah the userbase is small enough where EA has decided to use the 360 as the lead platform for all games and port them to the ps3 and that can be difficult this gen, especially with the difficulty of programming for PS3.Small user base with a large percentage of them Japanese, that dont play Football.
blue_hazy_basic
hence his use of the word percentage?
how does it differ percentage wise? percentage wise NA still has the most PS3's sold? a little less than half the user base of the ps3 is in NA and i dont think most of them here are japanese too.[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="Trashface"]So Madden on the 360 runs at 60 frames and 30 frames on the Playstation3. Why? I thought the PS3supposedly had the more powerful hardware. Anyone know the real reason(s)?Nugtoka
Quick Answer : Sony lies.
To an extent, the PS3 is a more powerful machine than the 360, the problem is thanks to various bottlenecks in the system is accessing that extra power. On paper the PS3 crushes the 360, in practice, as the 360 is so designer friendly, it tends to outpace the PS3. Hence the reason why all EA have struggled on the PS3, the company itself seems to be having problems with the machine.
]Right! on paper! A paper Sony prepared. The only people saying that the Ps3 is more powerful is Sony and there exclusive developers. that E3 05 stats on paper are worthless. A systems peak power meaning nothing in the world of software development. its all about a systems balance. The cell processor was not designedwiththe Ps3 in mind it was just used because they had so much R&D sunk into it ,not because it was the best choice. Also Sony was more concerned with getting Blueray on the market this is clearly the reason for the extra year wait and the $600 price tag. After the blatant lies Sony spewed before the launch of the PS3, and you have to admit thereclamswherepretty ridiculous, seems like they where willing to tell there fan base anything to get a blueray player in there home. I find this shameless. The PS3 has no secret hidden power sorry your little 3 year old paper is meaningless.
are you for real so you still think the 360 is more powerful. even ibm said that the cell is a good chip it can do alot of things. graphics, phisics, lighting ect. to help the rsx chip in side the ps 3. ibm lies to i guess. funny thing the dev's that are saying that there about equal don't even use one spree or mutiple spees. but yet they can say that. that is why they ask sony to come to there studios to help with the cell because they don't now how to use them correctly but can say there equal in power. numbers on paper is numbers on paper and ibm even said they were real about the cell but there lieing too right. lol forcing blu-ray well guess what it is working it is out selling hd-dvd 4 to 1 which means more money in the future for sony which means bigger and better things from them.So Madden on the 360 runs at 60 frames and 30 frames on the Playstation3. Why? I thought the PS3supposedly had the more powerful hardware. Anyone know the real reason(s)?Trashface
Don't you guys ever read news articles or do most of you just assume? If you recall before Madden came outEA issued a statement stating that they will be focused more on the 360 because its more easier to develope for, and the fact that the PS3 is hard and unknown that their main focus would be on the 360. So please people go back in archives, read up before making stupid conpiracy theories and that the PS3 is more powerful blah blah. Just go do some homework.
ea daa sence when do they take time and effet in there ports look at the ps 2 version as well. madden should be so much better and better looking even on the 360 but instead ea makes rushed games and now you casual football fans will by it. i hope the lisence goes to some were else because there it should look and play alot better than it should. plus i think ea is corrupted now with peter moore there now hum who saw that one coming. hi im peter moore a 360 lover and now i will be a ea making sure it stays that way.GARRYTH
Dude not to be mean but you really really need to fix your grammar. A lot of posts are just so hard to read.
[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]ea daa sence when do they take time and effet in there ports look at the ps 2 version as well. madden should be so much better and better looking even on the 360 but instead ea makes rushed games and now you casual football fans will by it. i hope the lisence goes to some were else because there it should look and play alot better than it should. plus i think ea is corrupted now with peter moore there now hum who saw that one coming. hi im peter moore a 360 lover and now i will be a ea making sure it stays that way.xscrapzx
Dude not to be mean but you really really need to fix your grammar. A lot of posts are just so hard to read.
no your write i have always been bad a grammer. but it doen't change the fact im a civil engineer but yes my grammer sucks i sorry plus typing so fast to work and write at the same time does not help either. no offence here always been told this. i can read real good put to translate it into proper grammer not to good. lol thanks for noticing though.because delopers havnt figured out the ps3s hardware fully yet, next year EA will have madden running at 60 on the ps3
ea daa sence when do they take time and effet in there ports look at the ps 2 version as well. madden should be so much better and better looking even on the 360 but instead ea makes rushed games and now you casual football fans will by it. i hope the lisence goes to some were else because there it should look and play alot better than it should. plus i think ea is corrupted now with peter moore there now hum who saw that one coming. hi im peter moore a 360 lover and now i will be a ea making sure it stays that way.GARRYTH
I know you are a kid, so I usually don't respond to your crazy posts,but this was so childish I had to speak up.
Adults in the workplace have no loyalty to companies they used to work for. In fact, most dislike companies they used to work for. Peter Moore is not a "360 lover", he is an ex employee of MS (and Sega) and he has moved on. When you are grown, you will see that you do that many times in your life. I am sure Peter isn't worried about "representing for MS" for the rest of his life like he was in some kind of gang or something.
[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="GARRYTH"]ea daa sence when do they take time and effet in there ports look at the ps 2 version as well. madden should be so much better and better looking even on the 360 but instead ea makes rushed games and now you casual football fans will by it. i hope the lisence goes to some were else because there it should look and play alot better than it should. plus i think ea is corrupted now with peter moore there now hum who saw that one coming. hi im peter moore a 360 lover and now i will be a ea making sure it stays that way.GARRYTH
Dude not to be mean but you really really need to fix your grammar. A lot of posts are just so hard to read.
no your write i have always been bad a grammer. but it doen't change the fact im a civil engineer but yes my grammer sucks i sorry plus typing so fast to work and write at the same time does not help either. no offence here always been told this. i can read real good put to translate it into proper grammer not to good. lol thanks for noticing though. If you are a civil engineer I'm a space clown from Xygabar VI.So Madden on the 360 runs at 60 frames and 30 frames on the Playstation3. Why? I thought the PS3supposedly had the more powerful hardware. Anyone know the real reason(s)?Trashface
Allright, this question is very old and has been answered. the comments make above are nothing but pathetic and full of hate not reason. The answer to this question is that the developers in EA are lazy and did not spend enough time on the PS3 version of the game. 60FPS on the PS3 is easily achievable. MotorStorm and NGS both run at 60FPS. it's not the PS3 but the lazy and unexperienced developers at EA. As a matter of fact, I am boycotting EA all together is the new FIFA 2008 does not run at 60FPS. why should I support a company that wants to create crappy ports just to make money?
[QUOTE="Trashface"]So Madden on the 360 runs at 60 frames and 30 frames on the Playstation3. Why? I thought the PS3supposedly had the more powerful hardware. Anyone know the real reason(s)?The_Gamer81
Allright, this question is very old and has been answered. the comments make above are nothing but pathetic and full of hate not reason. The answer to this question is that the developers in EA are lazy and did not spend enough time on the PS3 version of the game. 60FPS on the PS3 is easily achievable. MotorStorm and NGS both run at 60FPS. it's not the PS3 but the lazy and unexperienced developers at EA. As a matter of fact, I am boycotting EA all together is the new FIFA 2008 does not run at 60FPS. why should I support a company that wants to create crappy ports just to make money?
Man thats why I love Sony cos they altruistically gave us the console for $600, I mean its practically free when you think about it and its perfect, not a single complaint! Not like those money grubbing whores at EA. :evil:[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="Trashface"]So Madden on the 360 runs at 60 frames and 30 frames on the Playstation3. Why? I thought the PS3supposedly had the more powerful hardware. Anyone know the real reason(s)?Nugtoka
Quick Answer : Sony lies.
To an extent, the PS3 is a more powerful machine than the 360, the problem is thanks to various bottlenecks in the system is accessing that extra power. On paper the PS3 crushes the 360, in practice, as the 360 is so designer friendly, it tends to outpace the PS3. Hence the reason why all EA have struggled on the PS3, the company itself seems to be having problems with the machine.
]Right! on paper! A paper Sony prepared. The only people saying that the Ps3 is more powerful is Sony and there exclusive developers. that E3 05 stats on paper are worthless. A systems peak power meaning nothing in the world of software development. its all about a systems balance. The cell processor was not designedwiththe Ps3 in mind it was just used because they had so much R&D sunk into it ,not because it was the best choice. Also Sony was more concerned with getting Blueray on the market this is clearly the reason for the extra year wait and the $600 price tag. After the blatant lies Sony spewed before the launch of the PS3, and you have to admit thereclamswherepretty ridiculous, seems like they where willing to tell there fan base anything to get a blueray player in there home. I find this shameless. The PS3 has no secret hidden power sorry your little 3 year old paper is meaningless.
Just to let you know, the Cell has been tested and proven to have 4-5 times more power than the intel core 2 quads. It's a very powerful processor and evey expert out there agrees. Stop with your M$ lies
[QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="Trashface"]So Madden on the 360 runs at 60 frames and 30 frames on the Playstation3. Why? I thought the PS3supposedly had the more powerful hardware. Anyone know the real reason(s)?The_Gamer81
Quick Answer : Sony lies.
To an extent, the PS3 is a more powerful machine than the 360, the problem is thanks to various bottlenecks in the system is accessing that extra power. On paper the PS3 crushes the 360, in practice, as the 360 is so designer friendly, it tends to outpace the PS3. Hence the reason why all EA have struggled on the PS3, the company itself seems to be having problems with the machine.
]Right! on paper! A paper Sony prepared. The only people saying that the Ps3 is more powerful is Sony and there exclusive developers. that E3 05 stats on paper are worthless. A systems peak power meaning nothing in the world of software development. its all about a systems balance. The cell processor was not designedwiththe Ps3 in mind it was just used because they had so much R&D sunk into it ,not because it was the best choice. Also Sony was more concerned with getting Blueray on the market this is clearly the reason for the extra year wait and the $600 price tag. After the blatant lies Sony spewed before the launch of the PS3, and you have to admit thereclamswherepretty ridiculous, seems like they where willing to tell there fan base anything to get a blueray player in there home. I find this shameless. The PS3 has no secret hidden power sorry your little 3 year old paper is meaningless.
Just to let you know, the Cell has been tested and proven to have 4-5 times more power than the intel core 2 quads. It's a very powerful processor and evey expert out there agrees. Stop with your M$ lies
Its not the cell thats the problem ....[QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="Trashface"]So Madden on the 360 runs at 60 frames and 30 frames on the Playstation3. Why? I thought the PS3supposedly had the more powerful hardware. Anyone know the real reason(s)?The_Gamer81
Quick Answer : Sony lies.
To an extent, the PS3 is a more powerful machine than the 360, the problem is thanks to various bottlenecks in the system is accessing that extra power. On paper the PS3 crushes the 360, in practice, as the 360 is so designer friendly, it tends to outpace the PS3. Hence the reason why all EA have struggled on the PS3, the company itself seems to be having problems with the machine.
]Right! on paper! A paper Sony prepared. The only people saying that the Ps3 is more powerful is Sony and there exclusive developers. that E3 05 stats on paper are worthless. A systems peak power meaning nothing in the world of software development. its all about a systems balance. The cell processor was not designedwiththe Ps3 in mind it was just used because they had so much R&D sunk into it ,not because it was the best choice. Also Sony was more concerned with getting Blueray on the market this is clearly the reason for the extra year wait and the $600 price tag. After the blatant lies Sony spewed before the launch of the PS3, and you have to admit thereclamswherepretty ridiculous, seems like they where willing to tell there fan base anything to get a blueray player in there home. I find this shameless. The PS3 has no secret hidden power sorry your little 3 year old paper is meaningless.
Just to let you know, the Cell has been tested and proven to have 4-5 times more power than the intel core 2 quads. It's a very powerful processor and evey expert out there agrees. Stop with your M$ lies
sure what ever you say buddy lets see links to some real life tests and not theoretical speculation.
OMFG!!! There are some horrible lies flying about in this thread. Fanboys through and through.
Madden was a lesser game on PS3 because of the lack of time with the PS3 and EA devs. That's what the devs said.
Look at the most recent EA sports release, NBA Live 08. Equal.
OMFG!!! There are some horrible lies flying about in this thread. Fanboys through and through.
Madden was a lesser game on PS3 because of the lack of time with the PS3 and EA devs. That's what the devs said.
Look at the most recent EA sports release, NBA Live 08. Equal.
The_Crucible
and you know this because you work at EA?you whereon the madden dev team? or you just pulling that out of your back side?
[QUOTE="rocket9434"]The PS3 is not going to be shafted next year, because Madden is switching base consoles and the PS3 will be the base console. Trashface
got an official confimation?
No, sorry. I heard the CEO of EA talking about it during E3 on G4TV, you will just have to take my word for it.
The answer is actually very simple. With a bit of simple reasoning anyone can work it out.
Madden only sells well in NA the rest of the world couldn't care less about it, in America the xbox 360 has more units than the PS3, EA gives more money to the system that has a larger installed base.
It doesn't take a genius to work out the reason why it doesn't run at 60 fps is because EA gave it a smaller budget.
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