Madworld sells 66,000 copies confirmed in US

  • 197 results
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for JLF1
JLF1

8263

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#101 JLF1
Member since 2005 • 8263 Posts

Okami not only managed to sell more on the Wii, but it managed to sell more on the Wii with a far smaller userbase than the PS2.

Hexagon_777

I'm not saying it didn't sell more on the Wii. It did but not "way" more. It didn't sell good on any system.

The game didn't however have legs which was my first point.

Avatar image for Hexagon_777
Hexagon_777

20348

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#102 Hexagon_777
Member since 2007 • 20348 Posts

NPD sales numbers procured by Gamasutra reveal that Sega's M-rated tongue-in-cheek blood bath MadWorld sold 66,000 copies in the U.S. following its March launch, and the publisher feels encouraged.

Despite a respectable Metacritic score of 82 percent, the M-rated MadWorld didn't exactly explode off of the shelves when Sega released it last month. The stylishly violent first offering from Platinum Games only managed to push 66,000 copies. Not a huge number, but still higher than Sega's other M-rated title, House of the Dead: Overkill, which saw 45,000 copies sold in its debut month. Still, Sega seems pleased with the results, telling Venture Beat:

House of the Dead has done very well and has absolutely met our expectations. The first set of data for Mad World is very encouraging, as well.


I suppose when you are releasing an M-rated title on a console that's been embraced by the American family you've got to keep those expectations realisticKotaku

Taken from MadWorld Sells 66K In The U.S., Sega Seems Pleased.

Oh my! :o

Avatar image for fabz_95
fabz_95

15425

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 41

User Lists: 0

#103 fabz_95
Member since 2006 • 15425 Posts

Ouch, that's dissapointing. I hope this doesn't dishearten the developers and stops them from creating original games :(

Avatar image for Hexagon_777
Hexagon_777

20348

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#104 Hexagon_777
Member since 2007 • 20348 Posts

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Okami not only managed to sell more on the Wii, but it managed to sell more on the Wii with a far smaller userbase than the PS2.

JLF1

I'm not saying it didn't sold more on the Wii. It did but not "way" more. It didn't sell good on any system.

The game didn't however have legs which was my first point.

I was just adding to the conversation, not saying that you are wrong. :P

Avatar image for TheNewspaper
TheNewspaper

277

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#105 TheNewspaper
Member since 2009 • 277 Posts

[QUOTE="TheNewspaper"]

In 2004, 1700 stores in the U.S. sold more than 500k copies of Halo 2 in its first day.

Keltoid

Are you seriously comparing a brand new franchise to a sequel to one of the biggest games of all time? These Halo comparisons are getting tiresome. It's one thing to compare KZ2 to Halo, but not Mad World.

CE is now one of the biggest games ever? What the **** When Halo 2 released, CE had only sold approximately 5 million copies. It's funny that an "absolutely terrible game", as one dude described Halo 2, sold more than 2 million in USA in 1 day with over 7000 stores having a midnight launch on a console that has barely broken 25 million thus far, and this anticipated Madworld only sells 66,000 in its entire month on a console that has broken the 50-million mark.

Avatar image for Hexagon_777
Hexagon_777

20348

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#106 Hexagon_777
Member since 2007 • 20348 Posts

Ouch, that's dissapointing. I hope this doesn't dishearten the developers and stops them from creating original games :(

fabz_95

Check the post above yours. If the publishers aren't disheartened, then the developers should be just fine. ;)

Avatar image for ogvampire
ogvampire

9210

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#107 ogvampire
Member since 2008 • 9210 Posts

[QUOTE="Keltoid"][QUOTE="TheNewspaper"]

In 2004, 1700 stores in the U.S. sold more than 500k copies of Halo 2 in its first day.

TheNewspaper

Are you seriously comparing a brand new franchise to a sequel to one of the biggest games of all time? These Halo comparisons are getting tiresome. It's one thing to compare KZ2 to Halo, but not Mad World.

CE is now one of the biggest games ever? What the **** When Halo 2 released, CE had only sold approximately 5 million copies. It's funny that an "absolutely terrible game", as one dude described Halo 2, sold more than 2 million in USA in 1 day with over 7000 stores having a midnight launch on a console that has barely broken 25 million thus far, and this anticipated Madworld only sells 66,000 in its entire month on a console that has broken the 50-million mark.

its called 'advertising'

halo franchise is known for having the most advertising

kz2 had commercials

madworld had..... almost nothing

also, these are North American sales... the wii hasnt sold 50mil units in America.... yet

Avatar image for Mr_Nordquist
Mr_Nordquist

1777

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#108 Mr_Nordquist
Member since 2009 • 1777 Posts

I think this has something to do with the Wii not being the 3rd party developer's choice system. Never has because you can't directly port something to it, and Nintendo dominates it's own console with so much software (while some really good), it makes it harder for a 3rd party to rake in some dough from supporting the Wii.

Now, I assume that MadWorld will sell consistently for months like other 3rd party games on the Wii, but the only reason it's launch was dismal is just because the majority of Wii owners haven't caught MadWorld's attention yet. I doubt that beyond forums, and video game magazines that many people even heard of MadWorld. It's pretty much requiring word of mouth to sell.


Same goes for most of the core stuff on the DS and Wii. Most people are skeptical about the games when they launch, and then will require a good word from someone to consider it. It's not like the PS3 and Xbox where tons of people bought the systems expecting the next Halo game, or God of War, or something. Nobody expected MadWorld from the Wii.

Avatar image for jakehouston88
jakehouston88

2848

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#109 jakehouston88
Member since 2009 • 2848 Posts

It has now been confirmed that Madworld only sold 66,000 copies in the month of March. This coming straight from NPD themselves, doesn't sit well with the amount of hype the game garnered. Although the game was great fun it unfortunately was a very niche game.

NPD last month stated that House of the Dead Overkilll only sold 45,000 copies in the US, hopefully both of these titles continue to sell with legs that most Wii titles have.

xxThyLordxx

That'll show developers.:twisted:

Avatar image for goblaa
goblaa

19304

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#110 goblaa
Member since 2006 • 19304 Posts

Like most third party hardcore games on wii, these will sell nearly a million over the rest of the year.

Avatar image for angelkimne
angelkimne

14037

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#111 angelkimne
Member since 2006 • 14037 Posts
:( I'm lovin' HotD: Overkill.
Avatar image for surrealnumber5
surrealnumber5

23044

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#112 surrealnumber5
Member since 2008 • 23044 Posts
mad world needs more press and i do hope it has legs, i was not expecting much but that is bad even for a niche title
Avatar image for TheGreatOutdoor
TheGreatOutdoor

3234

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#113 TheGreatOutdoor
Member since 2009 • 3234 Posts

It has now been confirmed that Madworld only sold 66,000 copies in the month of March. This coming straight from NPD themselves, doesn't sit well with the amount of hype the game garnered. Although the game was great fun it unfortunately was a very niche game.

NPD last month stated that House of the Dead Overkilll only sold 45,000 copies in the US, hopefully both of these titles continue to sell with legs that most Wii titles have.

xxThyLordxx

Madworld was made for hardcore gamers, to bad it wasn't put on a hardcore gamers system. That's why it didn't sell well. I don't know to many grandmothers that want to play Madworld.....Especially over Wii-Bowling.

Avatar image for nhh18
nhh18

6538

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#114 nhh18
Member since 2009 • 6538 Posts

Like most third party hardcore games on wii, these will sell nearly a million over the rest of the year.

goblaa

By imaginary numbers and not managing to be in the top 10 on any wii npd sheet. We have no clue what the sold numbers are but, wii games obviously not mario, or wii on it sell less. I doubt no more heroes had long legs, and who should we assume npd date that it has never been on wii top 10, or marvelous entertaiment someone who would twist data to make it a positive.

Avatar image for Next-Gen-Tec
Next-Gen-Tec

4623

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#115 Next-Gen-Tec
Member since 2009 • 4623 Posts

Thats pretty embarrasing from Ninty's point of view.

Hopefully they have some legs becuase they both deserve more commercial recognition.(Especially MW)

GabeNewellsPie
Maybe considering the size of the userbase. However, the game looks good, but I wouldn't purchase it for the price. Recession is a you know what.
Avatar image for psychobrew
psychobrew

8888

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#116 psychobrew
Member since 2008 • 8888 Posts

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]Best game is highly subjective. Sales indicate not that many people agree with you, and when you look at the niche apeal, you can see why. I'm not sure what you mean by semester, but COD:WAW was the last quality title to come out. In the future, LKS is going to be huge, as will Monster Hunter 3 (not sure if it's comming to the west this year or not). The Conduit will do well too. There are many games comming out in the near future that will have widespread apeal and still having an edge. Some of these titles have been in development for years and should prove to be popular. HOTD:OK and MadWorld have a very norrow scope of apeal, which is why they aren't selling.JLF1



Are you seriously telling us you think sales are an indication of a game's quality?

It is certainly one factor. Games won't sell unless people are interested in it, and word of mouth will can make a huge difference (and wouldn't happen on a poor quality game).

Avatar image for kaangonultas
kaangonultas

1647

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#117 kaangonultas
Member since 2008 • 1647 Posts
LOL.With these spectacular sales we can see the shift of third party devs to the Wii has begun
Avatar image for Silenthps
Silenthps

7302

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#118 Silenthps
Member since 2006 • 7302 Posts
wii games have legs though.
Avatar image for enix165
enix165

1848

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#119 enix165
Member since 2007 • 1848 Posts

Well, it didn't look interesting at all to me...woo, gore...woo, black and whiteness...woo, chainsaws...woo, corny announcers...now where's that gameplay I ordered?

Avatar image for JLF1
JLF1

8263

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#120 JLF1
Member since 2005 • 8263 Posts

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]Best game is highly subjective. Sales indicate not that many people agree with you, and when you look at the niche apeal, you can see why. I'm not sure what you mean by semester, but COD:WAW was the last quality title to come out. In the future, LKS is going to be huge, as will Monster Hunter 3 (not sure if it's comming to the west this year or not). The Conduit will do well too. There are many games comming out in the near future that will have widespread apeal and still having an edge. Some of these titles have been in development for years and should prove to be popular. HOTD:OK and MadWorld have a very norrow scope of apeal, which is why they aren't selling.psychobrew



Are you seriously telling us you think sales are an indication of a game's quality?

It is certainly one factor. Games won't sell unless people are interested in it, and word of mouth will can make a huge difference (and wouldn't happen on a poor quality game).


So Okami or Psychonauts wasn't good games then?

Avatar image for psychobrew
psychobrew

8888

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#121 psychobrew
Member since 2008 • 8888 Posts

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

Are you seriously telling us you think sales are an indication of a game's quality?

JLF1

It is certainly one factor. Games won't sell unless people are interested in it, and word of mouth will can make a huge difference (and wouldn't happen on a poor quality game).


So Okami or Psychonauts wasn't good games then?

To the niche they were desinged for, then probably, but I don't think either have the mass appeal needed to sell. Both are a bit on the bizzar side (which is why Mushroom Men did not sell well even though it was a well done game, the theme was bizzar). Mass appeal is part of the quality equation.

Avatar image for deactivated-63f6895020e66
deactivated-63f6895020e66

21177

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#122 deactivated-63f6895020e66
Member since 2004 • 21177 Posts
Mass appeal is part of the quality equation.psychobrew
I disagree. Quality is simply traduced on how good a game is. For me at least.
Avatar image for Hungry_Jello
Hungry_Jello

3024

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#123 Hungry_Jello
Member since 2008 • 3024 Posts

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="SMR-Venom"] As long as I own a Wii, there is definitely a "hardcore" market.SMR-Venom
I'm not intending to insult you in any way - I don't think there's anything wrong whatsoever with not being hardcore, nor do I think being "hardcore" makes someone a better person, but you're not a part of the hardcore niche. It's not what you think it is - the people supporting the whole "buy it now" campaigns on the Wii cannot, by definition, be part of the hardcore niche, as platform-centrism is anathema to being hardcore. - In the end, Wasdie's comment is somewhat misplaced - but the key idea behind it - that they're targeting an audience that is not heavily represented on the Wii - holds true.

I am sorry, but there is a significant hardcore market on the Wii. Take sales of Super Mario Galaxy for example. Not hardcore enough for you? Take SSBB. Still not there? Take sales of Zelda: TP, or Resident Evil: UC, or CoD:WaW. Now I agree, the entire "casual" image may overshadow the hardcore niche on the Wii, but the point is that there are hardcore gamers on the Wii.

I'm sorry to tell you this but Mario games are casual. Same for SSBB. That game was born to be casual. Both are very good games. But they are casual.

Avatar image for AntiType
AntiType

6249

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#124 AntiType
Member since 2003 • 6249 Posts

I did not buy the game becuase it was short. MUCH too short. The game was flawed, and so few people bought it. Poor software sells horrilby on the Wii, and 3rd party publishers that are pumping these horrible games out are finding this out. They do better on PS3 and 360 for some reason.

Quality games on the Wii sell great. Too bad most 3rd party publishers do not care to put the time into it.

Avatar image for subrosian
subrosian

14232

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#125 subrosian
Member since 2005 • 14232 Posts

[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"][QUOTE="subrosian"] You're confusing the words "core" and "traditional". House of Dead were for an older, more traditional market, but that has nothing to do with being a hardcore game. [QUOTE="SMR-Venom"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"]Alright I'll bite. Now games like House of the Dead 2+3, also were for a core market, no? That is currently at 960,000. Back to my original point, Wii games have legs!JLF1


House of the Dead have more casual appeal than Madworld... which is why they are selling far better.

Come on now, HotD has casual appeal? You are grasping for straws. If HotD has casual appeal, then what doesn't?

On the Wii? The majority of content is made to appeal to either a broad, traditional market (aka - casuals, new traditional gamers, older traditional gamers, families, etc - the usual targets) or targeted at non-traditional markets, like women, young girls, older new gamers, lapsed gamers, etc).

Avatar image for 404-not-found
404-not-found

1050

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#126 404-not-found
Member since 2009 • 1050 Posts
Americans only buy generic shooters.
Avatar image for subrosian
subrosian

14232

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#127 subrosian
Member since 2005 • 14232 Posts

To the niche they were desinged for, then probably, but I don't think either have the mass appeal needed to sell. Both are a bit on the bizzar side (which is why Mushroom Men did not sell well even though it was a well done game, the theme was bizzar). Mass appeal is part of the quality equation.

psychobrew

That's utter nonsense. - Popularity has NOTHING to do with quality. The higher quality a product is, the more expensive it is. Ground beef is lower quality than steak, yet more ground beef is sold every day than steak. Why? It's cheaper - steak is a higher quality meat, in every regard - it's more nutricious, it tastes better, it looks better, it ages better, it's better for you - but ground beef is by far the more popular entree. - But by your system, the more "popular" item becomes better - like some magical transformation will happen and make ground beef suddenly as good for you as a nice steak. - By your argument, a 1/2 carat diamond makes a higher quality engagement ring than a 2 carat diamond. Why? More of them are sold. Forget the hope diamond, it's low quality *garbage* - just look at how many of them are sold every day! They only made one! It must suck.

-

The only time popularity remotely matters is for games that are primarily multiplayer - and only if the population of a game is significanlty low enough to cause matchmaking pool problems.

Avatar image for themyth01
themyth01

13924

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#128 themyth01
Member since 2003 • 13924 Posts

Apparently violent games do not sell on the wii, surprised.

Avatar image for DrinkDuff
DrinkDuff

6762

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#130 DrinkDuff
Member since 2004 • 6762 Posts

This begs the question: what the hell are those 50 million wii owners buying?

Avatar image for deactivated-63f6895020e66
deactivated-63f6895020e66

21177

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#132 deactivated-63f6895020e66
Member since 2004 • 21177 Posts

Doesn't this pretty much prove WII is the of console of choice for women, and h0m0s?

KingNabster
Nope.
Avatar image for deactivated-63f6895020e66
deactivated-63f6895020e66

21177

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#133 deactivated-63f6895020e66
Member since 2004 • 21177 Posts
The majority of people are dumb. Mussolinni, Hitler and George W. Bush were all voted by the public.nhh18
Bringing politicians to a gaming discussion is not exaclty a good argument.
Avatar image for nhh18
nhh18

6538

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#134 nhh18
Member since 2009 • 6538 Posts

[QUOTE="nhh18"]The majority of people are dumb. Mussolinni, Hitler and George W. Bush were all voted by the public.IronBass
Bringing politicians to a gaming discussion is not exaclty a good argument.

Well the majority of people own wii play.

Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#135 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts
Half of me is saying this game would have sold in the millions if it was multiplat (esp 360), the other half is saying it's probably way to short and a rental anyway...
Avatar image for TheOwnerOner
TheOwnerOner

2921

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#136 TheOwnerOner
Member since 2007 • 2921 Posts
They shoulda made an exercise video instead
Avatar image for coltsfan4ever
coltsfan4ever

2628

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#137 coltsfan4ever
Member since 2006 • 2628 Posts

[QUOTE="stvee101"]

You're kidding right?

Ok it never had the same level of hype or expectation attached to KZ2,but MW was considered by alot of people as a potential Killer-app,and proof that 3rd parties were willing to bring high quality games to the Wii.

Make no mistake,this was a big game for the Wii,especially considering the drought it suffered in the latter half of '08.

Keltoid

Very true. Mad World on the PS3 and 360 would have sold alot more. These sales might scare third parties away now.

I agree. I only own a PS 3 but I really want to play Mad World. I have no desire to get a Wii. Hopefully Sega ports this game to the other systems. It will definetely sell alot better. I feel it's only a matter of time before some third parties turn away from the Wii. Yeah the system sells great but some of the software does not. Especially for third party developers.

Avatar image for Dibdibdobdobo
Dibdibdobdobo

6683

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#138 Dibdibdobdobo
Member since 2008 • 6683 Posts
i'll bring this topic back on up when it reaches 700k+ by end of the year and a sequel is announced.
Avatar image for coltsfan4ever
coltsfan4ever

2628

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#139 coltsfan4ever
Member since 2006 • 2628 Posts

This begs the question: what the hell are those 50 million wii owners buying?

DrinkDuff

Probably an extra Wii remote. Oops I meant Wii Play.

Avatar image for coltsfan4ever
coltsfan4ever

2628

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#140 coltsfan4ever
Member since 2006 • 2628 Posts

i'll bring this topic back on up when it reaches 700k+ by end of the year and a sequel is announced. Dibdibdobdobo
I seriously doubt either of those will happen.

Avatar image for clone01
clone01

29845

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#141 clone01
Member since 2003 • 29845 Posts
[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]

It has now been confirmed that Madworld only sold 66,000 copies in the month of March. This coming straight from NPD themselves, doesn't sit well with the amount of hype the game garnered. Although the game was great fun it unfortunately was a very niche game.

NPD last month stated that House of the Dead Overkilll only sold 45,000 copies in the US, hopefully both of these titles continue to sell with legs that most Wii titles have.

its too bad. they are both great games. i hope the sales improve.
Avatar image for coltsfan4ever
coltsfan4ever

2628

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#142 coltsfan4ever
Member since 2006 • 2628 Posts

Americans only buy generic shooters.404-not-found
Good job generalizing. Im american and I dont buy alot of shooters.

Avatar image for Chutebox
Chutebox

51609

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#143 Chutebox
Member since 2007 • 51609 Posts

This begs the question: what the hell are those 50 million wii owners buying?

DrinkDuff
A sheep here is hyping Wii Fit: Resort. That should answer your question...
Avatar image for Dibdibdobdobo
Dibdibdobdobo

6683

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#144 Dibdibdobdobo
Member since 2008 • 6683 Posts

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]i'll bring this topic back on up when it reaches 700k+ by end of the year and a sequel is announced. coltsfan4ever

I seriously doubt either of those will happen.

World Wide im sure its sold over 100K copies already. Another 8 months of the year to sell 600k.
Avatar image for DrinkDuff
DrinkDuff

6762

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#145 DrinkDuff
Member since 2004 • 6762 Posts
[QUOTE="DrinkDuff"]

This begs the question: what the hell are those 50 million wii owners buying?

Chutebox
A sheep here is hyping Wii Fit: Resort. That should answer your question...

I suppose. It's just really disappointing that most of the wii users would rather have mini game collections, than real core experiences. It's not like most core games aren't already "dumbed down" in difficulty to maximize appeal.
Avatar image for SpinoRaptor24
SpinoRaptor24

10316

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 143

User Lists: 0

#146 SpinoRaptor24
Member since 2008 • 10316 Posts

And sheep wonder why they aren't receiving hardcore games...

Avatar image for Chutebox
Chutebox

51609

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#147 Chutebox
Member since 2007 • 51609 Posts
[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="DrinkDuff"]

This begs the question: what the hell are those 50 million wii owners buying?

DrinkDuff
A sheep here is hyping Wii Fit: Resort. That should answer your question...

I suppose. It's just really disappointing that most of the wii users would rather have mini game collections, than real core experiences. It's not like most core games aren't already "dumbed down" in difficulty to maximize appeal.

Well, those are the type of people Nintendo is reaching for with the Wii. Hell, how long has Wii been out and we haven't seen an actual Wii Zelda yet. So it's not too surprising to be honest.
Avatar image for psychobrew
psychobrew

8888

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#148 psychobrew
Member since 2008 • 8888 Posts
[QUOTE="psychobrew"] Mass appeal is part of the quality equation.IronBass
I disagree. Quality is simply traduced on how good a game is. For me at least.

Sure, but how good a game is is different for everyone. Many people love the Final Fantasy series. I can't stand it, yet I can admit that it's a quality series because the games always sell (if they didn't sell, I wouldn't think they were quality).
Avatar image for psychobrew
psychobrew

8888

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#149 psychobrew
Member since 2008 • 8888 Posts
[QUOTE="subrosian"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

To the niche they were desinged for, then probably, but I don't think either have the mass appeal needed to sell. Both are a bit on the bizzar side (which is why Mushroom Men did not sell well even though it was a well done game, the theme was bizzar). Mass appeal is part of the quality equation.

That's utter nonsense. - Popularity has NOTHING to do with quality. The higher quality a product is, the more expensive it is. Ground beef is lower quality than steak, yet more ground beef is sold every day than steak. Why? It's cheaper - steak is a higher quality meat, in every regard - it's more nutricious, it tastes better, it looks better, it ages better, it's better for you - but ground beef is by far the more popular entree. - But by your system, the more "popular" item becomes better - like some magical transformation will happen and make ground beef suddenly as good for you as a nice steak. - By your argument, a 1/2 carat diamond makes a higher quality engagement ring than a 2 carat diamond. Why? More of them are sold. Forget the hope diamond, it's low quality *garbage* - just look at how many of them are sold every day! They only made one! It must suck.

-

The only time popularity remotely matters is for games that are primarily multiplayer - and only if the population of a game is significanlty low enough to cause matchmaking pool problems.

Madworld is the same price as its competitors -- your analogy doesn't work. Besides, I didn't say sales were the only indicator, I said it was one indicator. Madworld is aimed at people who are too young to buy it.
Avatar image for deactivated-63f6895020e66
deactivated-63f6895020e66

21177

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#150 deactivated-63f6895020e66
Member since 2004 • 21177 Posts
[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="psychobrew"] Mass appeal is part of the quality equation.psychobrew
I disagree. Quality is simply traduced on how good a game is. For me at least.

Sure, but how good a game is is different for everyone. Many people love the Final Fantasy series. I can't stand it, yet I can admit that it's a quality series because the games always sell (if they didn't sell, I wouldn't think they were quality).

I disagree again. Sure, what is "fun" is enterely subjective, as is quality. But sells are nowhere an indicator of it. Sales are that, sales.