MAG might be horrible on 360 but not fully due to hardware...

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#1 wasted_wisdom
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Can MAG be done on the 360? I think the main reason why most cows would say no is because they automatically think, hardware...but no.

First of all- lets examine the concept of MAG- the big factor that's meant to drive the gameplay... "CO-operation" DO you think all the immature 7 year olds in XBL would be able to co-operate and play with squads and take orders? I don't think so but that's not a factor to my opinion.

Second--- Lets take the 360's Network: Do you think the game wouldn't feel like a powerpoint with all the lag- if there's any? WHich there will most likely be.

Third of all: Mag doesn't just feature pretty warzone simulation with helicopters floating around and enemies dropping by parachutes. There are lots of background scripts and commands and components running to create what you see. There's management and tracking of character actions...There's communication across the network between the 256 players... DO you think the 360 can handle that without sputtering? I don't know.

Thats just the way I see it.

Oh, and yeah on the side note...Lemmens, stop hiding behind ME2. And sheep....*Facepalm...

And we never hyped MAG too above 7...Hell, i even posted about how stupid and annoying the beta was to ME and I was cursed out by other cows so no one overhyped the game so its not a flop. I'm actually really surprised.

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#2 tehsystemwarior
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Imagine Bad Company 2, with Mags player amount. Maybe like 64. That would be amazing.
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#3 Blue-Sky
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FFXI on 360. Supports up to 3000 players.

it's all based on network configuration.

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#4 SolarEclipze
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lol, the majority everyone on XBL has mics because every console comes with them :P 256 players has nothing to do with hardware this gen, even the wii could do it with dedicated servers There are some games on XBL with servers Not all XBL players are immature, ive met just as many on PSN while playing warhawk :P
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#5 k25425
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zipper was the king of fps until ps3 came out, ps2 socom games was more fun than modern warfare games imo. online socom owns
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#6 Ribnarak
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TC i have to agree with you,

8.0 is a great score, For a game of this scale, its a good score since its the first ever 200+ player game on a console.

Its a great accomplishment, and seriously we dont know if it can be done on the 360.

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#7 2mrw
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all these are assumptions and speculations , let's just skip that matter people, the game won't be made on the x360 even if it's possible, proving wether it's possible or not is pointless.

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#8 clubsammich91
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MAG could be done on the 360.
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#9 Brainhunter
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I think any game on the PS3 can be done on the 360, and vice-versa, with enough developer support and ambition, money, and time. The reason first-party games on PS3 look so darn good compared to first-party 360 games is because Sony puts a lot of support behind its own team, budget-wise, development time wise, and labour wise. If only Microsoft would be the same, then we would see some spectacular games on both consoles, and System Wars would actually be more interesting with truly spectacular titles coming out on both fronts. Even the Wii, as a system, is well capable of producing some spectacular visuals (Mario Galaxy for example). It all lies in developer effort, in the end. Last generation was the same thing : the PS2 was the weakest, specs wise, among the consoles, but the games published on it were producing some impressive visuals, due largely in part, once again, by the sheer talent of the developers behind them.
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#10 clubsammich91
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In fact it should be done on the 360, it's a great game.
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#11 gameofthering
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Is it really 256 players running around the map?

I'm sure I saw someone post on here saying it was 64.

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#12 clubsammich91
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Is it really 256 players running around the map?

I'm sure I saw someone post on here saying it was 64.

gameofthering

There are 64 player modes, but the main drive of the game is the 256 player Domination mode. There is also a 132(I think it's that number) mode called Acquisition

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#13 WilliamRLBaker
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zipper was the king of fps until ps3 came out, ps2 socom games was more fun than modern warfare games imo. online socom ownsk25425
lol and yet the socom games didn't sell near the units or get the scores of the call of duty and battlefield games...hmmm zipper was king of nothing really.
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#14 93soccer
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[QUOTE="wasted_wisdom"]

Can MAG be done on the 360? I think the main reason why most cows would say no is because they automatically think, hardware...but no.

First of all- lets examine the concept of MAG- the big factor that's meant to drive the gameplay... "CO-operation" DO you think all the immature 7 year olds in XBL would be able to co-operate and play with squads and take orders? I don't think so but that's not a factor to my opinion.

Second--- Lets take the 360's Network: Do you think the game wouldn't feel like a powerpoint with all the lag- if there's any? WHich there will most likely be.

Third of all: Mag doesn't just feature pretty warzone simulation with helicopters floating around and enemies dropping by parachutes. There are lots of background scripts and commands and components running to create what you see. There's management and tracking of character actions...There's communication across the network between the 256 players... DO you think the 360 can handle that without sputtering? I don't know.

Thats just the way I see it.

Oh, and yeah on the side note...Lemmens, stop hiding behind ME2. And sheep....*Facepalm...

And we never hyped MAG too above 7...Hell, i even posted about how stupid and annoying the beta was to ME and I was cursed out by other cows so no one overhyped the game so its not a flop. I'm actually really surprised.

Wow you really explained why MAG can't be done alright :roll: DAMAGE CONTROL!!
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#15 sikanderahmed
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lol xbox live has much more communication then PSN and i dont know where you guys pull this "7 year olds" BS from. there are many adults playing and not every 7 year old is bad. Also 360can use dedicated servers for games like MAG so stop acting like 360 is stuck with p2p. it can handle MAG as good as ps3 but maybe with slight graphics downgrade. MAG would be MUCH better on 360 (even with the slight graphical downgrade) due to better controller.

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#16 gamer-adam1
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MAG is nothing special, its basicly the same as a MMO, except scaled down. it looks good because there isnt 1000's of people playing at once in a open world

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#17 wasted_wisdom
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Is it really 256 players running around the map?

I'm sure I saw someone post on here saying it was 64.

gameofthering

I know right? That's sort of confusing me too. One thing about the game-when i played the beta- is that things could change and you actually DO feel like you're making differnece. Except to be honest, the graphics sucked and i had to move my ps3 to the living room to use the HD so I could see and stop getting sniped. But yeah the maps are realistic-- a dream for those annoying campers who just hide and snipe. I loved how in the game- once your position was compromised an enemy would come for you...I think there must be communication because the one time we invaded a Point B zone and while my squad infiltrated I decided to stay behind and snipe. Some idiot from the other team stormed out and i was just about to hit him...then somehow I got sniped- almost like he was used as bait. The game is realistic and one thing it does excellently is make you feel like you're really doing something.

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#18 k25425
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[QUOTE="k25425"]zipper was the king of fps until ps3 came out, ps2 socom games was more fun than modern warfare games imo. online socom ownsWilliamRLBaker
lol and yet the socom games didn't sell near the units or get the scores of the call of duty and battlefield games...hmmm zipper was king of nothing really.

epic fail...around 10 million copies sold all time just for ps2 series. ps3 and psp around 2 million each
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#19 88mphSlayer
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the 360 most likely could handle MAG but just like MAG it would require a new engine built from the ground up and it would require some heavy investments in servers, also netcode is the most important aspect to making a game like MAG work anyways, that's why MAG had over 1,000 people closed-beta testing the thing for so long

so i think the question is whether Microsoft would even lift a finger to make something like MAG when they're raking in money off of less intensive P2P games

anyways all these "can or can't be done" topics are usually full of **** anyways, the better answer is always simply "it's not on it" as in "i have MP with 256 players, you don't" or "i have Uncharted 2, you don't" or "i have MGS4, you don't" and so-on

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lol xbox live has much more communication then PSN and i dont know where you guys pull this "7 year olds" BS from. there are many adults playing and not every 7 year old is bad. Also 360can use dedicated servers for games like MAG so stop acting like 360 is stuck with p2p. it can handle MAG as good as ps3 but maybe with slight graphics downgrade. MAG would be MUCH better on 360 (even with the slight graphical downgrade) due to better controller.

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IDK... I think I already stated that I'm not one of the big supporters of MAG so stop expecting me to get all fanboy against you. If you read the first post clearly you'd see that all the things I stated were posted as opinions and I actually said I was asking for what you guys thought. Also no one is damage controlling because this game exceeded everyone's expectation. Honestly- like I've made clear- I thought the game was horrible from the beta but I was wowed by what gamespot gave it. LOL remember how it took them forever to review... Well, inside I kept laughing like wow GS is totally going to burn this game. I kept checking back to see like a 6.4 or something then i was slapped with an Eight. So MAG- to cows- was like a new born baby who the doctor said wouldnt live too long and then its parents already built a coffin for it and the next thing you know, its exceeding their expectations: you ever read the scarlet ibis?
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#21 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="k25425"]zipper was the king of fps until ps3 came out, ps2 socom games was more fun than modern warfare games imo. online socom ownsk25425
lol and yet the socom games didn't sell near the units or get the scores of the call of duty and battlefield games...hmmm zipper was king of nothing really.

epic fail...around 10 million copies sold all time just for ps2 series. ps3 and psp around 2 million each

epic fail, About 20-30 million+ for all the cod's accross all platforms, the battlefield series about 20 million accross all platforms.

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#22 LegatoSkyheart
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Why do you guys care???

I thought 360 people could careless about MAG! In fact didn't they say that the game will flop???

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#23 WilliamRLBaker
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Why do you guys care???

I thought 360 people could careless about MAG! In fact didn't they say that the game will flop???

LegatoSkyheart
are you sure its not cows continually bringing this up?
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#24 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Why do you guys care???

I thought 360 people could careless about MAG! In fact didn't they say that the game will flop???

WilliamRLBaker

are you sure its not cows continually bringing this up?

hmmm good point.

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#25 wasted_wisdom
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Why do you guys care???

I thought 360 people could careless about MAG! In fact didn't they say that the game will flop???

WilliamRLBaker
are you sure its not cows continually bringing this up?

No one's bringing anything up. I was just responding to a topic and how I was trying to pitch a different way to look at things...And yes you lemmens are the ones crying around about MAG flopping at 8.0 saying we hyped it higher when we clearly didnt.
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#26 k25425
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Why do you guys care???

I thought 360 people could careless about MAG! In fact didn't they say that the game will flop???

WilliamRLBaker
are you sure its not cows continually bringing this up?

link??? to battlefield?
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#27 2mrw
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[QUOTE="k25425"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] lol and yet the socom games didn't sell near the units or get the scores of the call of duty and battlefield games...hmmm zipper was king of nothing really.WilliamRLBaker

epic fail...around 10 million copies sold all time just for ps2 series. ps3 and psp around 2 million each

epic fail, About 20-30 million+ for all the cod's accross all platforms, the battlefield series about 20 million accross all platforms.

now all the talking about quality and quantity will be thrown away, simply coz it doesn't serve anybody's case.
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#28 jkhd831
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You guys might find this interesting....

MAG- 128 players

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#29 93soccer
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="k25425"]zipper was the king of fps until ps3 came out, ps2 socom games was more fun than modern warfare games imo. online socom ownsk25425
lol and yet the socom games didn't sell near the units or get the scores of the call of duty and battlefield games...hmmm zipper was king of nothing really.

epic fail...around 10 million copies sold all time just for ps2 series. ps3 and psp around 2 million each

Epic fail...MW2 (launched in Nov 2009) sold 11.38M copies so far. Combine the rest of CoD series and BF, and it easily outsells any Socom game
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#30 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Why do you guys care???

I thought 360 people could careless about MAG! In fact didn't they say that the game will flop???

k25425
are you sure its not cows continually bringing this up?

link??? to battlefield?

lol look for it your self, you made the claim of zipper being the king, you should provide the proof it is, that its outsold, outscored and out user based every other fps. thats what it takes to be king, to be at the top.
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#31 13C
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FFXI on 360. Supports up to 3000 players.

it's all based on network configuration.

Blue-Sky

You clearly no nothing about networking. :roll:

Mag isnt a mmo

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#32 GreenGoblin2099
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MAG could be done on the 360.clubsammich91

Of course not... the thing in the 360's back breaks a lot!!

:P

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#33 gamer-adam1
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

FFXI on 360. Supports up to 3000 players.

it's all based on network configuration.

13C

You clearly no nothing about networking. :roll:

Mag isnt a mmo

it can work the same way, like how Age of Conan looks soo good...the areas can only hold 1000 people
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#34 Blue-Sky
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

FFXI on 360. Supports up to 3000 players.

it's all based on network configuration.

13C

You clearly no nothing about networking. :roll:

Mag isnt a mmo

Explain to me how MAG's network configuration is sooo different from a typical MMO server? Mr. knowitall ;)

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I thought so.

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#35 GhoX
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MAG would work best on PC, if the port is done right.
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#36 SolarEclipze
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

[QUOTE="13C"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

FFXI on 360. Supports up to 3000 players.

it's all based on network configuration.

You clearly no nothing about networking. :roll:

Mag isnt a mmo

Explain to me how MAG's network configuration is sooo different from a typical MMO server? Mr. knowitall ;)

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I thought so.

lol, awesome :P
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#37 mayceV
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its completely possible, network, community and everything, why do peopel over exaturate the community of xbl? and PSN? its no where near as ba as you say.maybe if you pick underground on xbox but on pro its not to bad unless you candy cane some one, or if you steal kills or something, a majority of xbl isn't 7 year olds, and not everyone on PSN is mature, so MAG would work perfectly on the 360. it'd even help since everyone (or atleast nearly everyone has a mic)
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#38 LegatoSkyheart
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Why do you guys care???

I thought 360 people could careless about MAG! In fact didn't they say that the game will flop???

LegatoSkyheart

I'm just saying.

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#39 360hammer
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[QUOTE="k25425"]zipper was the king of fps until ps3 came out, ps2 socom games was more fun than modern warfare games imo. online socom ownsWilliamRLBaker
lol and yet the socom games didn't sell near the units or get the scores of the call of duty and battlefield games...hmmm zipper was king of nothing really.

LOL, man you really like to push buttons. The guy had some fun on PS2 playing SOCOM and your spouting sales LOL. You really should atleast try and post without the sole purpose of annoyance.

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#40 360hammer
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[QUOTE="k25425"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] are you sure its not cows continually bringing this up?WilliamRLBaker
link??? to battlefield?

lol look for it your self, you made the claim of zipper being the king, you should provide the proof it is, that its outsold, outscored and out user based every other fps. thats what it takes to be king, to be at the top.

LOL, still at it huh LMAO

You know I do get a good laugh at your posts. Being King at the Top LMAO

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#41 themyth01
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MAG could even be done on the Wii with downgraded graphics. To people who say otherwise, then do explain why.
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#42 Stats_
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Can MAG be done on the 360? I think the main reason why most cows would say no is because they automatically think, hardware...but no.

First of all - Co operation.

Second -360's Network

Third of all: Rambling.

wasted_wisdom

360 gamers are just as mature as PS3 gamers. That being as a whole, not very. Difference is one faction can voice there maturity, the other must sit in silence.

Xbox Live > PSN at everything. Fair enough some PS3 games use dedicated servers, but so? Xbox 360 games do too ... The PS3 boasts few more dedicated servers then the 360.

Lastly, i have no idea what your third reason is getting at.

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#43 pamplinas322
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Is all assumptions anyways.