Man the Wii is just disappointment after disappointment.

Every game that I hope might be good, that isn't a 1st/2nd party Nintendo game, turns out to be completely average at best.

Modern Warfare: Reflex being a great example of this...

I mean how can Treyarch still not get the basic pointing controls right, probably the most important thing they needed to get right in this Wii version, even after all the other examples out there were other developers are finally starting to get decent FPS controls (The Conduit being a good example of good FPS controls, and Quake Wii Homebrew is a great example of top notch FPS controls on Wii too)?

Is there EVER going to be a multi-plat game on Wii that isn't just total disappointment!

I mean I can live with slightly inferior graphics but only if things like the controls are spot on. Without the controls being nailed, really the only thing that differentiates the Wii from the other systems in a supposedly good way, then really what is the F'N point in the Wii version at all!

Can we just have one proper AAA+ 3rd party title on the God Damn system please!

Every game that I hope might be good, that isn't a Nintendo game, turns out to be just average at best.

Modern Warfare: Reflex being a great example of this.

I mean how can they still not get the basic controls right, probably the most important thing they needed to get right in this Wii version, even after all the other examples out there were developers are finally starting to get decent FPS controls (The Conduit being a good example of good FPS controls, and Quake Wii Homebrew is a great example of top notch FPS controls on Wii too)? amaneuvering

Mess with the control settings. Neogaf seems to love the gameplay.

Is there EVER going to be a multi-plat game on Wii that isn't just total disappointment! amaneuvering

Tiger Woods? Pro Evolution Soccer? Ghost Busters? Shawn White Snowboarding? Bully SE? Godfather? Anno: Dawn of Discovery? ...

Can we just have one proper AAA+ 3rd party title on the God Damn system please!

amaneuvering

Little King Story is one of the best games this year.

Buy it, stop crying.

Blog it.

randomwiiplayer

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Mess with the control settings. Neogaf seems to love the gameplay.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"] Is there EVER going to be a multi-plat game on Wii that isn't just total disappointment! Thunderdrone

Tiger Woods? Pro Evolution Soccer? Ghost Busters? Shawn White Snowboarding? Bully SE? Godfather? Anno: Dawn of Discovery? ...

Can we just have one proper AAA+ 3rd party title on the God Damn system please!

amaneuvering

Little King Story is one of the best games this year.

Buy it, stop crying.

Like I said:

"Can we just have one proper AAA+ 3rd party title on the God Damn system please!"

Not some "great for Wii" game that is really just completely average and would actually be aknowledged as such on any other f'n platform!

[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]

Little King Story is one of the best games this year.

Buy it, stop crying.

amaneuvering

Like I said:

"Can we just have one proper AAA+ 3rd party title on the God Damn system please!"

Not some "great for Wii" game that is really just completely average and would actually be aknowledged as such on any other f'n platform!

...

Thats all i needed to know about you.

Have a nice day

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]

Little King Story is one of the best games this year.

Buy it, stop crying.

Thunderdrone

Like I said:

"Can we just have one proper AAA+ 3rd party title on the God Damn system please!"

Not some "great for Wii" game that is really just completely average and would actually be aknowledged as such on any other f'n platform!

...

Thats all i needed to know about you.

Have a nice day

Overly blurry graphics, that undermine anything else graphically to do with the game imo, and it doesn't even use the Wiimote pointer at (in a game where pointer control would have so obviously been perfectly suited, and vastly superior imo, rather than the slightly clumsy analog controls they settled for)...

Yup...all you need to know about me for sure.

i bought a wii in nov, 2006 because media exaggerated it and it was the cheapest new generation console.

graphics is dated, and its remote controller becomes boring after a while.

but my parents, grandparents,and my 2 years nephew love it. lol

IMHO, wii is disappointing if you are a real gamer.

wii is a console for family, children, and casual players.

oajlu

i bought a wii in nov, 2006 because media exaggerated it and it was the cheapest new generation console.

graphics is dated, and its remote controller becomes boring after a while.

but my parents, grandparents,and my 2 years nephew love it. lol

IMHO, wii is disappointing if you are a real gamer.

wii is a console for family, children, and casual players.

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

i bought a wii in nov, 2006 because media exaggerated it and it was the cheapest new generation console.

graphics is dated, and its remote controller becomes boring after a while.

but my parents, grandparents,and my 2 years nephew love it. lol

IMHO, wii is disappointing if you are a real gamer.

wii is a console for family, children, and casual players.

Pices

Well you are in the minority for sure.

[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

Blog it.

amaneuvering

Yes, because that makes perfect sense.

Every game that I hope might be good, that isn't a 1st/2nd party Nintendo game, turns out to be completely average at best.

Modern Warfare: Reflex being a great example of this...

I mean how can Treyarch still not get the basic pointing controls right, probably the most important thing they needed to get right in this Wii version, even after all the other examples out there were other developers are finally starting to get decent FPS controls (The Conduit being a good example of good FPS controls, and Quake Wii Homebrew is a great example of top notch FPS controls on Wii too)?

Is there EVER going to be a multi-plat game on Wii that isn't just total disappointment!

I mean I can live with slightly inferior graphics but only if things like the controls are spot on. Without the controls being nailed, really the only thing that differentiates the Wii from the other systems in a supposedly good way, then really what is the F'N point in the Wii version at all!

Can we just have one proper AAA+ 3rd party title on the God Damn system please!

amaneuvering

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

i bought a wii in nov, 2006 because media exaggerated it and it was the cheapest new generation console.

graphics is dated, and its remote controller becomes boring after a while.

but my parents, grandparents,and my 2 years nephew love it. lol

IMHO, wii is disappointing if you are a real gamer.

wii is a console for family, children, and casual players.

In 2009, the Wii has had 11 third-party exclusives alone (!) in the Metacritic Wii Top 50 with a score of 80+. So much for that.

As to this thread in particular, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. The controls of MW: Reflex are absolutely perfect. Have you even played it?

This is pretty much common knowledge at this point. The Wii fanantics however will not face reality on this one. The average Wii owner is simply not a gamer and denial by its loyal fanbase will not change this fact.

I am a 360/Wii owner with a HD/5.1 setup. I play the Wii just as much as I play the 360, mainly for single-player. Explain.

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="oajlu"]

i bought a wii in nov, 2006 because media exaggerated it and it was the cheapest new generation console.

graphics is dated, and its remote controller becomes boring after a while.

but my parents, grandparents,and my 2 years nephew love it. lol

IMHO, wii is disappointing if you are a real gamer.

wii is a console for family, children, and casual players.

Well you are in the minority for sure.

i bought a wii in nov, 2006 because media exaggerated it and it was the cheapest new generation console.

graphics is dated, and its remote controller becomes boring after a while.

but my parents, grandparents,and my 2 years nephew love it. lol

IMHO, wii is disappointing if you are a real gamer.

wii is a console for family, children, and casual players.

oajlu

That is one of the dumbest, ignorant and lame argument this gen, no system can determine if i'am a real gamer or not.

I'm a real gamer and i have a Wii, nop, i'm not disappointed with it, in fact, in hyped with some upcommig games.

[QUOTE="3rdbass"]

[QUOTE="Pices"] Nice but flawed philosophy. I'm not disappointed with my Wii and I'm a real gamer.Pices

Well you are in the minority for sure.

Well definitely in the Minority here in GS. Have you seen the polls on these sites. I never see the Wii winning any of them or even coming close.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

i bought a wii in nov, 2006 because media exaggerated it and it was the cheapest new generation console.

graphics is dated, and its remote controller becomes boring after a while.

but my parents, grandparents,and my 2 years nephew love it. lol

IMHO, wii is disappointing if you are a real gamer.

wii is a console for family, children, and casual players.

shadowcat2576

i had NES, SNES, PS, Wii, and PS3, but wii isthe mostdisappointing console.

Even 2004 PC games like doom3 and halflife 2 have much better graphics than wii.

When I played NES, SNES, and PS in late 80s and 90s, their graphics was quite decent at that time.

motion sensor? it's nothing new. They already has a gun controller on NES for cowboy duel and hunting games.

casual players and kids dont care about graphics, and they are even happy with facebook flash games.

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="3rdbass"]

Well you are in the minority for sure.

Well definitely in the Minority here in GS. Have you seen the polls on these sites. I never see the Wii winning any of them or even coming close.

ok first off you thought TREYARCH could make a good motion control game? they cant even make a good normal gameshadow_hosi

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="3rdbass"]

Well you are in the minority for sure.

3rdbass

Well definitely in the Minority here in GS. Have you seen the polls on these sites. I never see the Wii winning any of them or even coming close.

Your basing your argument in GS polls? having in mind that when it comes to this kind of stuffs a majority of people who votes doesn't even have a Wii, but even they are disappointed?

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"][QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

Blog it.

randomwiiplayer

Yes, because that makes perfect sense.

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

i bought a wii in nov, 2006 because media exaggerated it and it was the cheapest new generation console.

graphics is dated, and its remote controller becomes boring after a while.

but my parents, grandparents,and my 2 years nephew love it. lol

IMHO, wii is disappointing if you are a real gamer.

wii is a console for family, children, and casual players.

[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Like I said:

"Can we just have one proper AAA+ 3rd party title on the God Damn system please!"

Not some "great for Wii" game that is really just completely average and would actually be aknowledged as such on any other f'n platform!

amaneuvering

...

Thats all i needed to know about you.

Have a nice day

Overly blurry graphics, that undermine anything else graphically to do with the game

In 2009, the Wii has had 11 third-party exclusives alone (!) in the Metacritic Wii Top 50 with a score of 80+. So much for that.

As to this thread in particular, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. The controls of MW: Reflex are absolutely perfect. Have you even played it?

This is pretty much common knowledge at this point. The Wii fanantics however will not face reality on this one. The average Wii owner is simply not a gamer and denial by its loyal fanbase will not change this fact.

I am a 360/Wii owner with a HD/5.1 setup. I play the Wii just as much as I play the 360, mainly for single-player. Explain.

Lothenon

[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Tiger Woods? Pro Evolution Soccer? Ghost Busters? Shawn White Snowboarding? Bully SE? Godfather? Anno: Dawn of Discovery? ...

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"] Can we just have one proper AAA+ 3rd party title on the God Damn system please!

amaneuvering

Little King Story is one of the best games this year.

Buy it, stop crying.

Like I said:

"Can we just have one proper AAA+ 3rd party title on the God Damn system please!"

Not some "great for Wii" game that is really just completely average and would actually be aknowledged as such on any other f'n platform!

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]ok first off you thought TREYARCH could make a good motion control game? they cant even make a good normal gamePices

[QUOTE="Lothenon"]

In 2009, the Wii has had 11 third-party exclusives alone (!) in the Metacritic Wii Top 50 with a score of 80+. So much for that.

As to this thread in particular, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. The controls of MW: Reflex are absolutely perfect. Have you even played it?

This is pretty much common knowledge at this point. The Wii fanantics however will not face reality on this one. The average Wii owner is simply not a gamer and denial by its loyal fanbase will not change this fact.

I am a 360/Wii owner with a HD/5.1 setup. I play the Wii just as much as I play the 360, mainly for single-player. Explain.

amaneuvering

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Every game that I hope might be good, that isn't a 1st/2nd party Nintendo game, turns out to be completely average at best.

Modern Warfare: Reflex being a great example of this...

I mean how can Treyarch still not get the basic pointing controls right, probably the most important thing they needed to get right in this Wii version, even after all the other examples out there were other developers are finally starting to get decent FPS controls (The Conduit being a good example of good FPS controls, and Quake Wii Homebrew is a great example of top notch FPS controls on Wii too)?

Is there EVER going to be a multi-plat game on Wii that isn't just total disappointment!

I mean I can live with slightly inferior graphics but only if things like the controls are spot on. Without the controls being nailed, really the only thing that differentiates the Wii from the other systems in a supposedly good way, then really what is the F'N point in the Wii version at all!

Can we just have one proper AAA+ 3rd party title on the God Damn system please!

kitty_katty

Treyarch have put in a shed load of effort for the amount of time they have had to do this, and it isnt a shoddy product at all. Other impressions highlight the controls as being absolutely bob on.

I agree with the TC about third party efforts. There are some truly fantastic games, but (at least in the West), there has not been an AAA level of development for a piece of software. I expected this to change after the Wii's first year; Nintendo certainly left a tidy openning for third parties to make a killing.

However, everyone that plays a videogame relatively habitually is a gamer. Including the "casuals".

In 2009, the Wii has had 11 third-party exclusives alone (!) in the Metacritic Wii Top 50 with a score of 80+. So much for that.

As to this thread in particular, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. The controls of MW: Reflex are absolutely perfect. Have you even played it?

This is pretty much common knowledge at this point. The Wii fanantics however will not face reality on this one. The average Wii owner is simply not a gamer and denial by its loyal fanbase will not change this fact.

I am a 360/Wii owner with a HD/5.1 setup. I play the Wii just as much as I play the 360, mainly for single-player. Explain.

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]ok first off you thought TREYARCH could make a good motion control game? they cant even make a good normal gamePices

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]

...

Thats all i needed to know about you.

Have a nice day

charizard1605

Overly blurry graphics, that undermine anything else graphically to do with the game

The controls from what I have read [...] amaneuvering

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]

Little King Story is one of the best games this year.

Buy it, stop crying.

gamer620

Like I said:

"Can we just have one proper AAA+ 3rd party title on the God Damn system please!"

Not some "great for Wii" game that is really just completely average and would actually be aknowledged as such on any other f'n platform!

Put that game on any other competing next-gen platform and it wouldn't even be a contender. Yet because it's on Wii it's considered a 9.0 game...

It's a completely average game in pretty much every single way...but on Wii it is of course some "special".

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Overly blurry graphics, that undermine anything else graphically to do with the game

amaneuvering

Blurry graphics PLUS a completely wasted opportunity to take advantage of the Wiimote's pointer controls and pretty much the only thing that really differentiates Wii from the competition imo.

Don't just delete stuff you don't want to hear to make your argument sound better. It just does the exact opposite imo.

Man, I appreciate your opinion, and you're welcome to it. I only ask that you

a) give this game a chance. trust me, it's great.

and

b) give the Wii a chance. trust me, it's great.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Overly blurry graphics, that undermine anything else graphically to do with the game

amaneuvering

Yet again, you didn't play the game

[QUOTE="gamer620"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Like I said:

"Can we just have one proper AAA+ 3rd party title on the God Damn system please!"

Not some "great for Wii" game that is really just completely average and would actually be aknowledged as such on any other f'n platform!

Put that game on any other competing next-gen platform and it wouldn't even be a contender. Yet because it's on Wii it's considered a 9.0 game...

It's a completely average game in pretty much every single way...but on Wii it is of course some "special".

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]The controls from what I have read [...] Lothenon

[QUOTE="gamer620"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Like I said:

"Can we just have one proper AAA+ 3rd party title on the God Damn system please!"

Not some "great for Wii" game that is really just completely average and would actually be aknowledged as such on any other f'n platform!

amaneuvering

Put that game on any other competing next-gen platform and it wouldn't even be a contender. Yet because it's on Wii it's considered a 9.0 game...

It's a completely average game in pretty much every single way...but on Wii it is of course some "special".

[QUOTE="gamer620"] No More Heroes, exclusive third party title. 9.0 at gamespot. How is that NOT a proper 3rd party title?

Put that game on any other competing next-gen platform and it wouldn't even be a contender. Yet because it's on Wii it's considered a 9.0 game...

It's a completely average game in pretty much every single way...but on Wii it is of course some "special".

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="gamer620"] No More Heroes, exclusive third party title. 9.0 at gamespot. How is that NOT a proper 3rd party title?

charizard1605

Put that game on any other competing next-gen platform and it wouldn't even be a contender. Yet because it's on Wii it's considered a 9.0 game...

It's a completely average game in pretty much every single way...but on Wii it is of course some "special".

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="gamer620"] No More Heroes, exclusive third party title. 9.0 at gamespot. How is that NOT a proper 3rd party title?

amaneuvering

Put that game on any other competing next-gen platform and it wouldn't even be a contender. Yet because it's on Wii it's considered a 9.0 game...

It's a completely average game in pretty much every single way...but on Wii it is of course some "special".

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Yeah, because graphics is all that matters. And Reflex is great, have you even PLAYED THAT GAME?Pices

Yet again, you didn't play the game