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#1 nippon_gamer
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if you could be him would you? personally i would have to say hell no cause he looks like a roid monster. Why does anyone like him? i think that guy from lost odessey is more interesting. What is interesting about Fenix?
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who would want to be him, i'd rather not get shot.

and i actually think he looks slightly like John Travolta in the wild hog movie when he tries to act tough.

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#3 turaaggeli
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First of all it's Fenix, not Pheonix and second, I wouldn't want to be him either.
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#4 nippon_gamer
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who would want to be him, i'd rather not get shot.

and i actually think he looks slightly like John Travolta in the wild hog movie when he tries to act tough.

bionicle_lover

his character is soo marketed towards American jocks and tuff guys its ridiculous. no wonder the 360 doesn't sell in japan.

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cause he is the man. /thread
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#6 Imgangsterdawg
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You`re right, no wonder the 360 dont sell over in japan, it needs more girly men.
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[QUOTE="bionicle_lover"]

who would want to be him, i'd rather not get shot.

and i actually think he looks slightly like John Travolta in the wild hog movie when he tries to act tough.

nippon_gamer

his character is soo marketed towards American jocks and tuff guys its ridiculous. no wonder the 360 doesn't sell in japan.

Oh no!!! It's the end of the world isn't it?!

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You`re right, no wonder the 360 dont sell over in japan, it needs more girly men.Imgangsterdawg

ok yeah maybe not all men are emotionally monotone.

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#9 jg4xchamp
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Meh he is ok. Atleast he isnt overrated like the brick known as Master Cheif or the greek mythology cliche that Kratos is.

I mean everybody accepts Marcus for what he is. A big, tough, beat up, scarred up guy with a soul patch.

And as a fellow man with a soul patch. He is cool.

WHy?

because well.....SOUL PATCH FTW :)
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#10 PBSnipes
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The majority of characters are overrated.
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Meh he is ok. Atleast he isnt overrated like the brick known as Master Cheif or the greek mythology cliche that Kratos is.

I mean everybody accepts Marcus for what he is. A big, tough, beat up, scarred up guy with a soul patch.

And as a fellow man with a soul patch. He is cool.

WHy?

because well.....SOUL PATCH FTW :)jg4xchamp

But kratos has an interesting past and emotional scars, Fenix is even more of a tool then master chief.

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#12 jg4xchamp
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how is he this overrated bad ass marketed towards jocks?

He isnt arrogant, he isnt I LOVE to fight or something,

He is just who he is. His appearance is more of a scarred warrior look. His appearance is generic and cliche, but personality wise he is pretty good.

he makes wise cracks here and there, he is serious when he needs to be, and he isnt over the top or completely cheesy.

Personally he is an ok character.
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#13 nippon_gamer
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The majority of characters in games are overrated. PBSnipes

but Fenix is so blatently lame that it makes me question why people like him at all.

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You`re right, no wonder the 360 dont sell over in japan, it needs more girly men.Imgangsterdawg

Yeah, that's great, generalize a whole country...homophobe. Related to the topic, there is absolutely NOTHING about Marcus Fenix that makes him stand out. He's basically the poster-boy for the entire 360 and PS3 libraries...uninteresting and bland.

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#15 whocares4peace
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You know who is overrated?

The COLE TRAIN, a walking talking cliche.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Meh he is ok. Atleast he isnt overrated like the brick known as Master Cheif or the greek mythology cliche that Kratos is.

I mean everybody accepts Marcus for what he is. A big, tough, beat up, scarred up guy with a soul patch.

And as a fellow man with a soul patch. He is cool.

WHy?

because well.....SOUL PATCH FTW :)nippon_gamer

But kratos has an interesting past and emotional scars, Fenix is even more of a tool then master chief.

What the gods used him.

His family is dead.

ANd then what he wants revenge, he kills gods.

What is wrong with Fenix. He is a soldier. Thats what they do. They fight at the command of others. THey ALWAYS DO. YOUR BOY Solid Snake did that as well. YEs he questioned it, but he always moves on and does the job others have told him to do.

There is nothing tool or overrated about Marcus Fenix.

Nobody overhypes him as a character, everybody just accepts him for being ok.

In fact he is more likeable than the other characters. His personality is somewhat simple, but its not made out to be a badass or some kind of over the top killing machine.
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[QUOTE="Imgangsterdawg"]You`re right, no wonder the 360 dont sell over in japan, it needs more girly men.svetzenlether

Yeah, that's great, generalize a whole country...homophobe. Related to the topic, there is absolutely NOTHING about Marcus Fenix that makes him stand out. He's basically the poster-boy for the entire 360 and PS3 libraries...uninteresting and bland.

yeah thats great generalize the majority of the gaming community.

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I love him for the meathead he is, even though I don't particularly adore Gears of War.
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All of Epic's characters are terrible.
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How is a guy who never gets praised as a great character wether by critics or gamers overrated?

I think most people agree he is ok, but nothing special.

I dont mind that, he isnt hateable and he is ok.

How is that overrated?
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#21 PBSnipes
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]The majority of characters in games are overrated. nippon_gamer

but Fenix is so blatently lame that it makes me question why people like him at all.

And you could say that about the majority of characters. Hell Mario is an Italian plumber with a gigantic moustache, how much more cliched can you get?
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#22 nippon_gamer
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[QUOTE="nippon_gamer"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Meh he is ok. Atleast he isnt overrated like the brick known as Master Cheif or the greek mythology cliche that Kratos is.

I mean everybody accepts Marcus for what he is. A big, tough, beat up, scarred up guy with a soul patch.

And as a fellow man with a soul patch. He is cool.

WHy?

because well.....SOUL PATCH FTW :)jg4xchamp

But kratos has an interesting past and emotional scars, Fenix is even more of a tool then master chief.

What the gods used him.

His family is dead.

ANd then what he wants revenge, he kills gods.

What is wrong with Fenix. He is a soldier. Thats what they do. They fight at the command of others. THey ALWAYS DO. YOUR BOY Solid Snake did that as well. YEs he questioned it, but he always moves on and does the job others have told him to do.

There is nothing tool or overrated about Marcus Fenix.

Nobody overhypes him as a character, everybody just accepts him for being ok.

In fact he is more likeable than the other characters. His personality is somewhat simple, but its not made out to be a badass or some kind of over the top killing machine.

really, so when epic designed him he wasnt supposed to be a badass killing machine!?!?!? i doubt that.

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#23 nippon_gamer
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[QUOTE="nippon_gamer"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]The majority of characters in games are overrated. PBSnipes

but Fenix is so blatently lame that it makes me question why people like him at all.

And you could say that about the majority of characters. Hell Mario is an Italian plumber with a gigantic moustache, how much more cliched can you get?

at least he isnt a character based on a 13 year olds idea of a macho man.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="nippon_gamer"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Meh he is ok. Atleast he isnt overrated like the brick known as Master Cheif or the greek mythology cliche that Kratos is.

I mean everybody accepts Marcus for what he is. A big, tough, beat up, scarred up guy with a soul patch.

And as a fellow man with a soul patch. He is cool.

WHy?

because well.....SOUL PATCH FTW :)nippon_gamer

But kratos has an interesting past and emotional scars, Fenix is even more of a tool then master chief.

What the gods used him.

His family is dead.

ANd then what he wants revenge, he kills gods.

What is wrong with Fenix. He is a soldier. Thats what they do. They fight at the command of others. THey ALWAYS DO. YOUR BOY Solid Snake did that as well. YEs he questioned it, but he always moves on and does the job others have told him to do.

There is nothing tool or overrated about Marcus Fenix.

Nobody overhypes him as a character, everybody just accepts him for being ok.

In fact he is more likeable than the other characters. His personality is somewhat simple, but its not made out to be a badass or some kind of over the top killing machine.

really, so when epic designed him he wasnt supposed to be a badass killing machine!?!?!? i doubt that.

well if they designed him that way they failed miserably. THey got a pretty simple character.

and no i dont think they did. IF they wanted to make Marcus more badass. He would have been more over the top. Like Cole Train.

Or had more one linears built around the words "kill"

He was actually just a soldier with a group of other soldiers. Thats it. Nothing more nothing less.

Too me they made an average character that everybody thinks is average.

Too me he isnt overrated.
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[QUOTE="nippon_gamer"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="nippon_gamer"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Meh he is ok. Atleast he isnt overrated like the brick known as Master Cheif or the greek mythology cliche that Kratos is.

I mean everybody accepts Marcus for what he is. A big, tough, beat up, scarred up guy with a soul patch.

And as a fellow man with a soul patch. He is cool.

WHy?

because well.....SOUL PATCH FTW :)jg4xchamp

But kratos has an interesting past and emotional scars, Fenix is even more of a tool then master chief.

What the gods used him.

His family is dead.

ANd then what he wants revenge, he kills gods.

What is wrong with Fenix. He is a soldier. Thats what they do. They fight at the command of others. THey ALWAYS DO. YOUR BOY Solid Snake did that as well. YEs he questioned it, but he always moves on and does the job others have told him to do.

There is nothing tool or overrated about Marcus Fenix.

Nobody overhypes him as a character, everybody just accepts him for being ok.

In fact he is more likeable than the other characters. His personality is somewhat simple, but its not made out to be a badass or some kind of over the top killing machine.

really, so when epic designed him he wasnt supposed to be a badass killing machine!?!?!? i doubt that.

well if they designed him that way they failed miserably. THey got a pretty simple character.

and no i dont think they did. IF they wanted to make Marcus more badass. He would have been more over the top. Like Cole Train.

Or had more one linears built around the words "kill"

He was actually just a soldier with a group of other soldiers. Thats it. Nothing more nothing less.

Too me they made an average character that everybody thinks is average.

Too me he isnt overrated.

he looks like he eats steroids for breakfast.

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#26 jg4xchamp
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SO he is big, whats the big deal.

Kratos is all gray and angry all the FUDGING Time.

He is angry enough to be considered he is on roid rage, he is angry enough to be related chris benoit........

We have characters like that all the time.

Solid Snake looks corny now that he is old. DOesnt mean he isnt cool.

Gray Fox wasnt the coolest looking ninja, but HE IS one of my favorite characters.

Raiden looks cool, but I bet he will be a disgrace of a ninja compared to GRAY FOX.

Looks are only half the battle with great videogame characters.

Looks only matter when comparing famous women. Like Adriana Lima trumps all........ thats when looks matter.
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SO he is big, whats the big deal.

Kratos is all gray and angry all the FUDGING Time.

He is angry enough to be considered he is on roid rage, he is angry enough to be related chris benoit........

We have characters like that all the time.

Solid Snake looks corny now that he is old. DOesnt mean he isnt cool.

Gray Fox wasnt the coolest looking ninja, but HE IS one of my favorite characters.

Raiden looks cool, but I bet he will be a disgrace of a ninja compared to GRAY FOX.

Looks are only half the battle with great videogame characters.

Looks only matter when comparing famous women. Like Adriana Lima trumps all........ thats when looks matter.jg4xchamp

thats kinda sexist. but i think Jessica Ablba looks better than Lima.

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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="nippon_gamer"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]The majority of characters in games are overrated. nippon_gamer

but Fenix is so blatently lame that it makes me question why people like him at all.

And you could say that about the majority of characters. Hell Mario is an Italian plumber with a gigantic moustache, how much more cliched can you get?

at least he isnt a character based on a 13 year olds idea of a macho man.

Hey Metal Gear Solid is based off the wants and desires of 13 year old anime freaks all over the world. What are you complaining about?
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You`re right, no wonder the 360 dont sell over in japan, it needs more girly men.Imgangsterdawg

Hey, at least those girly men have some emotion/substance.

Oh, who am I kidding...I'm talking to a guy named "Imgangsterdawg".

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]SO he is big, whats the big deal.

Kratos is all gray and angry all the FUDGING Time.

He is angry enough to be considered he is on roid rage, he is angry enough to be related chris benoit........

We have characters like that all the time.

Solid Snake looks corny now that he is old. DOesnt mean he isnt cool.

Gray Fox wasnt the coolest looking ninja, but HE IS one of my favorite characters.

Raiden looks cool, but I bet he will be a disgrace of a ninja compared to GRAY FOX.

Looks are only half the battle with great videogame characters.

Looks only matter when comparing famous women. Like Adriana Lima trumps all........ thats when looks matter.nippon_gamer

thats kinda sexist. but i think Jessica Ablba looks better than Lima.

Agreed. Far out Jessica Alba looked gorgeous even when she was pregnant at the Oscars.
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[QUOTE="Imgangsterdawg"]You`re right, no wonder the 360 dont sell over in japan, it needs more girly men.Udsen

Hey, at least those girly men have some emotion/substance.

Oh, who am I kidding...I'm talking to a guy named "Imgangsterdawg".

lol

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[QUOTE="Imgangsterdawg"]You`re right, no wonder the 360 dont sell over in japan, it needs more girly men.Udsen

Hey, at least those girly men have some emotion/substance.

Oh, who am I kidding...I'm talking to a guy named "Imgangsterdawg".

You`re right

Girly men that cry over a broken nail.

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[QUOTE="Udsen"]

[QUOTE="Imgangsterdawg"]You`re right, no wonder the 360 dont sell over in japan, it needs more girly men.Imgangsterdawg

Hey, at least those girly men have some emotion/substance.

Oh, who am I kidding...I'm talking to a guy named "Imgangsterdawg".

You`re right

Girly men that cry over a broken nail.

What?

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#34 chutup
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[QUOTE="nippon_gamer"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Meh he is ok. Atleast he isnt overrated like the brick known as Master Cheif or the greek mythology cliche that Kratos is.

I mean everybody accepts Marcus for what he is. A big, tough, beat up, scarred up guy with a soul patch.

And as a fellow man with a soul patch. He is cool.

WHy?

because well.....SOUL PATCH FTW :)jg4xchamp

But kratos has an interesting past and emotional scars, Fenix is even more of a tool then master chief.

What the gods used him.

His family is dead.

ANd then what he wants revenge, he kills gods.

Kratos is not really much of a character... basically all he is is just "REVENGE REVENGE REVENGE". But I think he's excellent in the context of the game, because it gives him a good reason to do all those awesome finishing moves and stuff.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]SO he is big, whats the big deal.

Kratos is all gray and angry all the FUDGING Time.

He is angry enough to be considered he is on roid rage, he is angry enough to be related chris benoit........

We have characters like that all the time.

Solid Snake looks corny now that he is old. DOesnt mean he isnt cool.

Gray Fox wasnt the coolest looking ninja, but HE IS one of my favorite characters.

Raiden looks cool, but I bet he will be a disgrace of a ninja compared to GRAY FOX.

Looks are only half the battle with great videogame characters.

Looks only matter when comparing famous women. Like Adriana Lima trumps all........ thats when looks matter.nippon_gamer

thats kinda sexist. but i think Jessica Ablba looks better than Lima.

I said famous women. Not girls you wanna date and do other things with. THen its personality as well.

But when you wanna talk about famous people its all looks.

I used to love Alba. Than that D-BAG known as Cash Warren got her pregnant :(

So i converted to Adriana Lima :)
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="nippon_gamer"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Meh he is ok. Atleast he isnt overrated like the brick known as Master Cheif or the greek mythology cliche that Kratos is.

I mean everybody accepts Marcus for what he is. A big, tough, beat up, scarred up guy with a soul patch.

And as a fellow man with a soul patch. He is cool.

WHy?

because well.....SOUL PATCH FTW :)chutup

But kratos has an interesting past and emotional scars, Fenix is even more of a tool then master chief.

What the gods used him.

His family is dead.

ANd then what he wants revenge, he kills gods.

Kratos is not really much of a character... basically all he is is just "REVENGE REVENGE REVENGE". But I think he's excellent in the context of the game, because it gives him a good reason to do all those awesome finishing moves and stuff.

Which i dont mind if people looked at him that way.

But all i ever hear is he is a badass. How?

ALl he really is, is an over angry cliche little ITCHBAY. There have been way better Badass characters.

Solid Snake for the more dramatic.

Dante for the more over the top

And THE DUKE for something more cheesy.

All cooler, actually have a personality, and are actually badass.
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[QUOTE="nippon_gamer"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]The majority of characters in games are overrated. PBSnipes

but Fenix is so blatently lame that it makes me question why people like him at all.

And you could say that about the majority of characters. Hell Mario is an Italian plumber with a gigantic moustache, how much more cliched can you get?

How many games or movies feature italian plumbers with a big mustache?

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[QUOTE="chutup"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="nippon_gamer"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Meh he is ok. Atleast he isnt overrated like the brick known as Master Cheif or the greek mythology cliche that Kratos is.

I mean everybody accepts Marcus for what he is. A big, tough, beat up, scarred up guy with a soul patch.

And as a fellow man with a soul patch. He is cool.

WHy?

because well.....SOUL PATCH FTW :)jg4xchamp

But kratos has an interesting past and emotional scars, Fenix is even more of a tool then master chief.

What the gods used him.

His family is dead.

ANd then what he wants revenge, he kills gods.

Kratos is not really much of a character... basically all he is is just "REVENGE REVENGE REVENGE". But I think he's excellent in the context of the game, because it gives him a good reason to do all those awesome finishing moves and stuff.

Which i dont mind if people looked at him that way.

But all i ever hear is he is a badass. How?

ALl he really is, is an over angry cliche little ITCHBAY. There have been way better Badass characters.

Solid Snake for the more dramatic.

Dante for the more over the top

And THE DUKE for something more cheesy.

All cooler, actually have a personality, and are actually badass.

None of them can match up to Kratos in sheer brutality though.

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#40 krunkmastax
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All characters in videogames are cliched. Thread over.
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#41 dragon_master11
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I hate characters that are meatheads.

Marcus Fenix:"Grunt grunt grunt, time for a protein bar. Grunt grunt grunt"

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#42 dgo71102244
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marcus fenix is the man
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if you could be him would you? personally i would have to say hell no cause he looks like a roid monster. Why does anyone like him? i think that guy from lost odessey is more interesting. What is interesting about Fenix?nippon_gamer

Agreed, he is almost as overrated as Solid Snake

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#44 skrat_01
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Marcus is a pretty terrible character - just a generic tough guy space marine.

People like him because he is a tough guy action hero full of tough guy langauge.

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#45 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="nippon_gamer"]if you could be him would you? personally i would have to say hell no cause he looks like a roid monster. Why does anyone like him? i think that guy from lost odessey is more interesting. What is interesting about Fenix?crispytheone88

Agreed, he is almost as overrated as Solid Snake

At least Snake is more complex than just saying "**** yea" every five minutes.
Also considering Snakes legacy since the 80s.....
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kirby owns them all i say!!
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#47 Juggernaut140
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[QUOTE="crispytheone88"]

[QUOTE="nippon_gamer"]if you could be him would you? personally i would have to say hell no cause he looks like a roid monster. Why does anyone like him? i think that guy from lost odessey is more interesting. What is interesting about Fenix?skrat_01

Agreed, he is almost as overrated as Solid Snake

At least Snake is more complex than just saying "**** yea" every five minutes.
Also considering Snakes legacy since the 80s.....

Dom is the one who says that....

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#48 Juggernaut140
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I hate characters that are meatheads.

Marcus Fenix:"Grunt grunt grunt, time for a protein bar. Grunt grunt grunt"

dragon_master11

BEEFCAKE!!! BEEFCAKE!!! (lol south park)

But seriously that's like completely wrong.

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why would you want to be anyone else other than yourself??
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#50 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="crispytheone88"]

[QUOTE="nippon_gamer"]if you could be him would you? personally i would have to say hell no cause he looks like a roid monster. Why does anyone like him? i think that guy from lost odessey is more interesting. What is interesting about Fenix?Juggernaut140

Agreed, he is almost as overrated as Solid Snake

At least Snake is more complex than just saying "**** yea" every five minutes.
Also considering Snakes legacy since the 80s.....

Dom is the one who says that....

lol you kiddding Marcus says it all the time - especially when you gib Locusts.