Mario Maker: Patch Greatly Speeds Item Unlock System

"Many reviewers, including myself, told you that Super Mario Maker requires you to wait 9 days to unlock all the level editor items. You have to play for a bit each of those 9 days to trigger the next unlock. Well, that's how things were when we played, but the 1.0.1 update changes that. Now it seems that you unlock new content every 15 minutes or so, rather than over the course of 9 days."

Source.

I mean, at that point you might as well have everything unlocked from the get-go.

Game is a 10 now, time to change all the review complaints.

Phantom Pain only unlocks one level at a time as a beat them. SO ANNOYING. Why can't all the games levels be unlocked from the get go. Stupid Nintendo...er I mean Konami.

That's good

And there you go folks.

Yay, whining and bitching paid off in the end, and they say Nintendo doesn't hear fans, now let's wait for a new thing to complain about Nintendo.

Well... there's the recent purge of Rom Hacks and TAS.

Still not fast enough. I can't create my uber awesome level right after I put the disc in. #sucksgoombahead/10

Madness! Let's Go!!! time to whine...

I look forward to the next big problem from Nintendo that supposedly infuriates people who most likely will not play the game.

@madsnakehhh said:

@nintendoboy16 said:

@madsnakehhh said:

Yay, whining and bitching paid off in the end, and they say Nintendo doesn't hear fans, now let's wait for a new thing to complain about Nintendo.

Well... there's the recent purge of Rom Hacks and TAS.

Madness! Let's Go!!! time to whine...

Yep. One part, they are well praised game devs. Other times, they are the George Lucas of games. And in this particular matter, they are a corporate take on the People's Republic of Tyranny (with a "critical" crowd with a similar mentality on what Nintendo should be doing).

Pre-order..CANCELED

Well, I actually read a good argument in favor of the locked content.

It's better to start off with the basics, learn to make great levels with that and than latter get access to more advanced stuff if you learned the ropes.

However, I haven't played it myself (getting it today) so I don't know how much content there is, if you first enter the disc.

Yeah, but why doesn't one just stick to the basics and move on when you feel ready? I didn't start off creating the craziest stuff in Trials. I had to learn, but everything was available for me in case I felt ready to move on.

I don't see the point in locking it away if it's not forced on you to begin with.

I like unlocking stuff and wouldn't care either way they do this. Only if it doesn't take super long to unlock everything.

Yes, there are other ways to handle this.

Like if you start making a level you could select your skill:

Beginner, Novice, Intermediate, or Hardcore. And depending on that you can get more advanced blocks.

I'm just imagining this game is stuffed with content (Big mario history) and so it would be way more content than a seperate editor in a game like Trials. And so people could get overwhelmed.

Again, this is all coming from no first hand experience :P

Trials does have a boatload of stuff to work with, although it separates its editor into "simple" and "pro". Not sure what they're exactly called.

I would've understood if it was locked behind actual game progression, but this went from being locked behind a date to being locked behind time spent with it, which makes more sense though.

True, I think this will feel way more natural.

All that is left now is to get the game ourselves and see if it's any good :)

Or do you already have it ? ^^

Great!

Now can sheep stop defending this 9 day thing as if it was anything remotely close to good or smart?

*reads thread*

Oh, guess not.

Game Mania opens in a bit. I'll check it out. See if it's in.

Who's defending it?

Nice !

I'll be getting it later today. Enjoy mate ;)

I sincerely hope that analogy to MGS V was intentionally obtuse.

Nice!..good move Nintendo. :) :P

No, it's an 8 now because they ruined a perfect feature, right? At least that's what you sheep claimed. Coming up with silly reasons why Nintendo is brilliant for implementing it. But now that it's gone it's time to ignore that. Freaking hypocrites.

This is so true it hurts. Nintendo fans would stand by Nintendo's side on one decision, and if they then decided to reverse it they'd be right there opposing the very thing they were just defending, not based on the merit of actual logic or argumentation, but simply due to brainless corporate adherence. A psychological study of this would be interesting to read.

I'm not much for SW monikers, but sheep is apt.

Whatever. Was never a big deal in the first place.

That's a lot better. That 9 day thing was really silly.

Im afraid it was Nintendo fans who complained and got the rule changed. Nothin is set in stone with Nintendo, but to hate on something without even trying it out is the real sad part of it all. Seemed it wasnt that big of a dal since it didnt hurt reveiws and they had a way to bypass it. But o nooo Rome is be burnin up in this beach, we all doomed, the end is nigh.

Why don't they do what other games do and unlock things based on objectives?

It's sad how "instant-gratification oriented" society is becoming.

I remember the days when the player had to WORK to unlock anything in a game. Where they literally had to invest hours of time into getting a single item to make them a smidgen better at one particular thing.

Then again, people complain about everything Nintendo does, no matter what it is.

@foxhound_fox: Not the same. This went from stuff being unlocked from the get-go, to stuff being unlocked nine days later, to stuff being unlocked every 15 minutes.

This has nothing to do with instant gratification. This is Nintendo being Nintendo.

Never knew it was all unlocked from the beginning. I originally remember coming into this story when it was "first" announced that they were putting in the gradual unlock system over days. I thought it was an odd way of doing a tutorial.

And it has a lot to do with instant gratification. People want everything NAO! and don't want to wait or work for it. Hell, I get barely 1-2 hours a week to play games anymore and just bought Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin on 50% off on Steam because I've been waiting and waiting for the "complete" edition to go to $30 or under... and I highly doubt I'll get anywhere in the game, but I still want to play games that make me work for things.

@foxhound_fox: Brilliant. Still, all of that doesn't stop Nintendo from going back and forth on how content is distributed in this game.

@Bread_or_Decide: What a stupid nonsensical comparison. Even Nintendo realized the 10 day thing was bullshit so why defend it?

My old thread lives on! Link

Game is a 5 at best

Let him be, he defended Nintendo's decision on the 10 day wait.

Based on what? Have you played it? Is it a 5 average on Metacritic?

Im not ashamed of my defense or the fact i agreed with Nintendo putting a limit to not overwhelm players. There was a get around since day one, it was never a big deal. And its not even a big deal now.

It was a big deal then, and it's a big deal now because it shows how Nintendo thinks the West are dumb and the East superior. Why else do you think they didn't bring over the REAL Super Mario Bros. 2? They thought we would be playing the same game as the game and would be too difficult for us and just re-skinned Doki Doki Panic to be Mario.

@FireEmblem_Man: And it seems they were correct as Super Mario Bros 2 sold like cray cray.

People who attempt to compare this to other games are missing a major distinction.

A game like Mario Maker is a game that is essentially a "make your own game" creation tool. The entire point of other games is not to create, but to experience. We have to now work to unlock tools to be able to create? Creation IS the work, the unlocking of the tools to enable it is nothing but a pointless obstacle. It is a counter intuitive burden to the entire game's premise and goal. Other games unlock levels, weapons, etc usually under the guise or in service to a narrative or to aid in the completion of a level.

Nintendo puts out a game where WE are the ones that hold the power to make levels, yet then preclude that power. For what? Where's the sense in this logic considering the type of game it is? I'm not against unlocking features in furthering a game's progress, but when it's marketed as a tool to create and then those tools are withheld, instant gratification? Well, yea, when I buy a game that advertises itself as a creation tool, yet those tools aren't there based on some arbitrary reasons, it's antithetical.

You buy Photoshop. Many tools are unusable. I suppose desiring them immediately is somehow indicative of how spoiled the instant gratification society has become?