Mark Cerny serenades us with a technical seminar re: PS5 Pro

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#1  Edited By Nonstop-Madness
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Enjoy some ASMR from the GOAT himself:

https://blog.playstation.com/2024/12/18/ps5-pro-technical-seminar-reveals-new-in-depth-details-on-console/

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#2  Edited By SolidGame_basic  Online
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The Lems have been rekt!

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Needs maybe a heist scene where a car explodes

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#5  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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I appreciate the info they're giving but I wonder who this video is really for. I guess they're just making content for games media to run with, DF will probably have part of a video analyzing all this (Cerny even quoted DF). Or they just want to mess with people in the forums 😆

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@girlusocrazy said:

I appreciate the info they're giving but I wonder who this video is really for. I guess they're just making content for games media to run with, DF will probably have part of a video analyzing all this (Cerny even quoted DF). Or they just want to mess with people in the forums 😆

They already did:

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#7 UItravioIence
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Just show the games man 🤦

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#8  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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@davillain: 😑 I guess all going according to plan then

Phase 3: Forum diarrhea, has already begun

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#9 osan0
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Some interesting stuff in there indeed. I love to see how console makers and hardware designers decide where to cut and how to punch smart. I mean I still give a lot of credit to the Base PS5 and XSX....very hard to build a console killer at the asking price of those consoles. MS, Sony and AMD did good (unpopular opinion, I know). Sure, in hindsight, maybe they should have done a couple of things differently. But we can only say that now really.

So the GPU is basically a hybrid of RDNA2 CUs with some RT enhancements from RDNA3 and 4 (more 4). Looking at the AI side, it looks like the existing CU has been tweaked rather than any sort of tensor core being added. Quite clever when having to work in a cost sensitive scenario. So far PSSR has been pretty mixed but it's early days. DLSS was also a mess in the early days. Chances are whatever model they are using needs more training.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out for RDNA4. Is that just going to be a bigger PS5 Pro GPU or do AMD have more uarch enhancements in the works? Core for core, the RT looks like a good upgrade over RDNA2 but it's unlikely to make Nvidia and Intel lose much sleep on that front.

Also if Sony are keeping the RDNA2 CU for compatibility reasons, what happens for the PS6? It's sure going to start taking a toll for AMDs GPU engineers, maintaining BC with RDNA2 (which in turn, has to be BC with the PS4 GPU) while also trying to be performant.

But yeah....always interesting to see how consoles makers try to punch smart......which does beg the question. Why the FnF does the thing cost €800!!?

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#10 DaVillain  Moderator
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@uitravioience said:

Just show the games man 🤦

They really can't. Most of Sony's games are still in development. Looks like 3rd-party will have to fill in the void till than🤷‍♂️

@girlusocrazy said:

@davillain: 😑 I guess all going according to plan then

Phase 3: Forum diarrhea, has already begun

DF obviously loves reporting PS5 Pro. Totally expected a DF Direct for this one.

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#11  Edited By Elderlord99
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They should have done this before it launched.

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@uitravioience: just wait (tm)

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Damn Dana Carvey has fallen on hard times, sad to see 😪

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Apparently DF does interviews now

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This is embarrassing and out of order.

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Disorder in the Court of Law is always fun to watch.

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#18  Edited By Saint-George
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PlayStation has no games.

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#19 Pedro
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@saint-george: I should release a PS5 exclusive called "No Games".😂

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Cerny go on a damage control copium tour but need to try going back to school 😎

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#21 mrbojangles25
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If there was ever an award for "Most Overacting done with Hands", it'd go to this guy. What is he, Italian?

Oh yeah, and PS has no games pffffffffffffbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt

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#22  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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@mrbojangles25: You're assuming he is of our world.

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@elderlord99 said:

They should have done this before it launched.

@Pedro said:

This is embarrassing and out of order.

Apparently this was all shot in October. So they sat on the interview for months… Which makes things even more strange somehow

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#24 ___gamemaster__
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Im still happy with my based PS5. If it broke for some reason sure il consider it. But the upgrades so far are quite minimal.

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@mrbojangles25 said:

If there was ever an award for "Most Overacting done with Hands", it'd go to this guy. What is he, Italian?

Oh yeah, and PS has no games pffffffffffffbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt

It is part of the Sony training. Watch old Shawn Layden press conferences and you will see that he was a master.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

The Lems have been rekt!

They have been rekt for awhile now. :)

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@___gamemaster__ said:

Im still happy with my based PS5. If it broke for some reason sure il consider it. But the upgrades so far are quite minimal.

Upgrading is always a nice thing....if you have the money, go for it.

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#28  Edited By Saint-George
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@Pedro:

Will it have a pro version that is identical to the ps5 😂 🤣

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this guy is a genius. thank you mark for my childhood game marble madness which he made by himself.

any one hating on him only has 1/4 of his knowledge.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

The Lems have been rekt!

Why?

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#31 dabear
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@toofastnquick said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

The Lems have been rekt!

They have been rekt for awhile now. :)

And you know this how, with your 2024 account?

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#32 ___gamemaster__
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@toofastnquick: i have some dime to spare. But i dont think its worth it. Not yet. I barely play ps5 nowadays after getting into pc handhelds. I think i only played ff7 rebirth this year on my ps5 lol.

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#33 Pedro
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@gifford38 said:

this guy is a genius. thank you mark for my childhood game marble madness which he made by himself.

any one hating on him only has 1/4 of his knowledge.

Anyone believing he is a genius has 1/1000th of his knowledge.🙃

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#34 hrt_rulz01
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Lmao, wtf was the point of that? I guess when you have no games to talk about, you have to fill the void with something.

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#35 R4gn4r0k
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@gifford38 said:

this guy is a genius. thank you mark for my childhood game marble madness which he made by himself.

any one hating on him only has 1/4 of his knowledge.

Knack?

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#36  Edited By BassMan
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I was about to watch the video and then I saw how long it was. I am not going to waste time watching it when it is just going to tell me what I already know...

The PS5 Pro is shit compared to a good gaming PC.

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#37 Gifford38
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@R4gn4r0k: yeah he did knack to. But he started with marble madness when he was I think 16 by himself.

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#38 R4gn4r0k
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@gifford38: Never knew he worked at atari, and that he made a platformer for them in the early 80s. Now that's super interesting.