Mark My Words: Heavy Rain = Game Of The Generation

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#1 Boogie_J
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watch the video

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=228556

and a fantastic article

http://www.incgamers.com/Columns/31/Why-Im-Backing-Heavy-Rain

some excerpts;

For example, in one early scene featuring PI Scott Shelby, he visits a prostitute who lost her son to the Origami Killer and the way he conducts himself in conversation can influence the outcome of the scene in a number of ways. Basically, without giving too much away, he can leave with information or without it and at the end of the scene you'll be presented with a choice to defend the woman against an attacker or simply walk away. If you choose the latter, you'll feel discomfort and guilt - it's this kind of evocative plotting that makes Heavy Rain stand out from the crowd. As does the fact that there are four main characters which gives the game an immediate dramatic advantage over most story-driven title. This allows QD to show events from four different angles, adding more depth and dramatic tension. Now, I won't lie to you; all of my doubts about Heavy Rain lie in the narrative too. What I've seen so far is very well handled, but I do fear a grand apocalyptic conspiracy coming on. Hopefully, Cage and QD will stay true to their word and make a game about relationships, not sub-Dan Brown conspiracy fodder.

Atmosphere:The tone of Heavy Rain is Quantic Dream's greatest achievement. Again it's rare for games to convey mood amid all the action, but this is something that Heavy Rain delivers in spades. Yes, it's bleak. But, it's intriguingly bleak, in a David Fincher kind of way. The game is littered with mood moments, like when you play as Ethan and sit down to watch TV with your still-traumatised son. The camera shifts to show Ethan's desire to have his son back as melancholic piano music begins. The game is so brilliantly soundtracked that you actually find yourself becoming nervous when the mood music begins. At one point Ethan was given the relatively simple task of retrieving a teddy bear for his son so he could go to sleep. After collecting it from downstairs, the piano music began and I became convinced he would be gone by the time I got back to his room (there's a killer about after all). He wasn't, of course, but that's the genius of the atmosphere – it makes you uncomfortable, and it's brilliantly judged. Some will call it pretentious, I'm sure, especially in light of the news that the game will delay trophy announcements in order to preserve the atmosphere. According to some writers, this is more of an affront to gaming than Rogue Warrior but I think it's a perfectly reasonable and intelligent move by the developer. I wonder how the critics would feel if they were watching a film and were interrupted by a knock at the door and someone shouting "Congratulations, you've made it an hour into Requiem For A Dream!" Probably thankful for a break from the relentless misery, I suppose. OK, bad example

What surprises me most about Heavy Rain is that I'm intrigued by it despite the fact I'm not a fan of quick time events. Hate 'em, in fact - generally, they're a cheap excuse for real gameplay. But, in Heavy Rain, they don't bother me because I'm gripped by the story, characters and atmosphere. The QTEs are my opportunity to change things and, as such, feel more natural and relevant than they do in most titles.

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its games like this that prove videogames to be a unique form of expression. its games like this that push the inustry forward. Dont miss out on this one, games like this come out once a generation

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#2 dragonfly110
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its developers arent even calling it a game anymore, they say its more of just an interactive movie.

still IM super excited for it, IDK about game of the gen, but it has a good chance of making my GOTY for sure.

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#3 awuilfj
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its developers arent even calling it a game anymore, they say its more of just an interactive movie.

still IM super excited for it, IDK about game of the gen, but it has a good chance of making my GOTY for sure.

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I would call it a IM, but it is shaping out to be the best IM of all time.
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#4 Moto1971
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Someone's getting a tad too excited there me thinks.

I am looking forward to this game, but I can pick up it's obvious flaws, the voice acting could be better, and sometimes (like in the robbery clips) the conversations don't flow well.

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#5 Hanass
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It's not a game... In a game, you actually play.

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#6 DoomZaW
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without any actual gameplay, it can never be the GAME of the generation

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"If you choose the latter, you'll feel discomfort and guilt - it's this kind of evocative plotting that makes Heavy Rain stand out from the crowd." Will I really? Can the person who wrote this guarantee i'll feel guilt?
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]"If you choose the latter, you'll feel discomfort and guilt - it's this kind of evocative plotting that makes Heavy Rain stand out from the crowd." Will I really? Can the person who wrote this guarantee i'll feel guilt?

Guilty in buying it?
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#9 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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Hopefully,Heavy Rain won't take a disastrous turn like the last part of Indigo Prophecy.

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#10 Tragic_Kingdom7
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Without above average voice acting, I can't see this game even fulfilling its own potential.

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#11 Regisland
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So much hate =/ It will be a great interective movie.

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#12 Xire_XII
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I don't think anyone should be hyping it so much just yet. It does look like one of the more interesting titles to come out next year but it seems like it's on another level. Not saying that as in "Oh, yeah it's so amazing it defies this plane of reality!" but more like "This is one of those games that you don't hold against others because what it's trying to do". It's not going to be everyone's cup of tea and by today's standards of what are good games and what aren't, it won't succeed I think. Yet I'm very excited for it and can't wait to play it.

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#13 Boogie_J
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Without above average voice acting, I can't see this game even fulfilling its own potential.

Tragic_Kingdom7

you can go into the options menu and change the language to french and pretend its a foreign film

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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]"If you choose the latter, you'll feel discomfort and guilt - it's this kind of evocative plotting that makes Heavy Rain stand out from the crowd." Will I really? Can the person who wrote this guarantee i'll feel guilt?

Guilty in buying it?

Buying such a gimmick or a game?
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#15 Tragic_Kingdom7
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[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

Without above average voice acting, I can't see this game even fulfilling its own potential.

Boogie_J

you can go into the options menu and change the language to french and pretend its a foreign film

:lol:

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#16 DoomZaW
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[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

Without above average voice acting, I can't see this game even fulfilling its own potential.

Boogie_J

you can go into the options menu and change the language to french and pretend its a foreign film

lol, well played! :lol:

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#17 2mrw
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HR will stand above all the other video games for being not a video game :D.

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#18 VendettaRed07
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Without above average voice acting, I can't see this game even fulfilling its own potential.

Tragic_Kingdom7

I hope it either has amazing voice acting, or really stiff bad but awesome voice acting like in shenmue, so I can just pretend that Im actually playing shenmue 3 lol

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#19 Silenthps
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doubt it'll even get game of the month
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#20 Regisland
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http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/20/heavy-rain-features-13-voiced-languages-subtitles-in-5-more/

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#21 Tragic_Kingdom7
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[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

Without above average voice acting, I can't see this game even fulfilling its own potential.

VendettaRed07

I hope it either has amazing voice acting, or really stiff bad but awesome voice acting like in shenmue, so I can just pretend that Im actually playing shenmue 3 lol

:lol:

I hope I don't get modded for too many LOL emoticons.

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#22 awuilfj
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Portuguese language yey :D
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#23 Regisland
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Portuguese language yey :Dawuilfj

Exactly.I also speak Portuguese,that helped me decide to get this game day 1.

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#24 chaoz-king
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Indigo prophecy wasn't too special so I don't see this doing anything different.
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Whatever helps you sleep at night man.
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#26 Blue-Sky
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I've always considered video games to be the ultimate form of entertainment

because it implements, movies, books and music into one interactive medium. To say HR isn't a game because it's more cinema than action halts video game's progression from having any artistic narrative. Keep the stereotype alive huh? Video games are just immature beeps and bops. . .

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#27 Arach666
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[QUOTE="awuilfj"]Portuguese language yey :DRegisland

Exactly.I also speak Portuguese,that helped me decide to get this game day 1.

Are you Portuguese?
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#28 Regisland
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[QUOTE="Regisland"]

[QUOTE="awuilfj"]Portuguese language yey :DArach666

Exactly.I also speak Portuguese,that helped me decide to get this game day 1.

Are you Portuguese?

My family is from Germany but I am a Brazilian living in the USA...lol wierd.

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#29 teh_shogun
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it's not even a game. it's an interactive movie with no multiplayer.

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#30 Regisland
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it's not even a game. it's an interactive movie with no multiplayer.

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A game must have multiplayer to win GOTG? Of course this is not a game,the producer of Heavy Rain himself said this.

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#31 enterawesome
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No, it's hardly even a game. It looks really cheesy too, I'll pass.
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#32 ironcreed
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Game of the generation? Highly doubtful, lol. Looks like a snore fest to me, but I will still give it the benefit of the doubt.

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I doubt it will be the game of the generation, but it definitely will be good. This sort of thing isn't for everyone and many won't like it. I'm not knocking this game in the least because right now it is my most anticipated game of next year but you have to be realistic here about this game and how it presents itself the mood it has.

Most will find it boring and don't have the attention span to stick with it, those that do though are truly in for a treat though.

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I doubt it will be the game of the generation, but it definitely will be good. This sort of thing isn't for everyone and many won't like it. I'm not knocking this game in the least because right now it is my most anticipated game of next year but you have to be realistic here about this game and how it presents itself the mood it has.

Most will find it boring and don't have the attention span to stick with it, those that do though are truly in for a treat though.

kejigoto

that's true. the majority of gamers have the attention span of a flea, and dont feel satisfied unless they are chainsawin' dudes

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#35 Tragic_Kingdom7
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[QUOTE="kejigoto"]

I doubt it will be the game of the generation, but it definitely will be good. This sort of thing isn't for everyone and many won't like it. I'm not knocking this game in the least because right now it is my most anticipated game of next year but you have to be realistic here about this game and how it presents itself the mood it has.

Most will find it boring and don't have the attention span to stick with it, those that do though are truly in for a treat though.

Boogie_J

that's true. the majority of gamers have the attention span of a flea, and dont feel satisfied unless they are chainsawin' dudes

That's a mighty high horse you've got there sir.

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#36 -Tretiak
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I lol'd. Just no.

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#37 Pdiddy105
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Games of the generation need to have excellent, well designed gameplay. Playing simon says with QTEs isn't what i'd consider excellent gameplay.

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#38 awuilfj
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Games of the generation need to have excellent, well designed gameplay. Playing simon says with QTEs isn't what i'd consider excellent gameplay.

Pdiddy105
Prefer simon says with shooting and no replay value?
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#39 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="Regisland"]

Exactly.I also speak Portuguese,that helped me decide to get this game day 1.

Regisland

Are you Portuguese?

My family is from Germany but I am a Brazilian living in the USA...lol wierd.

Eh,I`ve been in São Paulo last year on vacation! :D

Lol,nice multicultural thing you got there ;)

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[QUOTE="Pdiddy105"]

Games of the generation need to have excellent, well designed gameplay. Playing simon says with QTEs isn't what i'd consider excellent gameplay.

awuilfj

Prefer simon says with shooting and no replay value?

Stop putting words in people's mouths. We want games that we can play. That doesn't mean we want shallow shooters.

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[QUOTE="awuilfj"][QUOTE="Pdiddy105"]

Games of the generation need to have excellent, well designed gameplay. Playing simon says with QTEs isn't what i'd consider excellent gameplay.

-Tretiak

Prefer simon says with shooting and no replay value?

Stop putting words in people's mouths. We want games that we can play. That doesn't mean we want shallow shooters.

Heavy rain is a game that is challenging the idea of what gameplay is. you seem to be offended by that

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Play indigo prophecy and then come back. That game is more involving and more rpg like than most games out, it had a great story and every decision affected the game. This game has great GAMEPLAY, and will emit amotion out of you when you constantly die early in the game without completing the story because of making poor decisions. This may very well be the game of the generation.
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#43 -Tretiak
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[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]

[QUOTE="awuilfj"] Prefer simon says with shooting and no replay value?Boogie_J

Stop putting words in people's mouths. We want games that we can play. That doesn't mean we want shallow shooters.

Heavy rain is a game that challenging the idea of what gameplay is. you seem to be offended by that

Nowhere did I get "offended" by Heavy Rain's style. I got offended by the user assuming that, when people say that they don't like Heavy Rain's style, it means they want bland shooters instead. Learn to read please.

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#44 kejigoto
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[QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

[QUOTE="kejigoto"]

I doubt it will be the game of the generation, but it definitely will be good. This sort of thing isn't for everyone and many won't like it. I'm not knocking this game in the least because right now it is my most anticipated game of next year but you have to be realistic here about this game and how it presents itself the mood it has.

Most will find it boring and don't have the attention span to stick with it, those that do though are truly in for a treat though.

Tragic_Kingdom7

that's true. the majority of gamers have the attention span of a flea, and dont feel satisfied unless they are chainsawin' dudes

That's a mighty high horse you've got there sir.

Its true, look at sales figures, games that involve death and shooting and all that sell like no other while others that don't revolve around that tend to sell alot less.

Uncharted 2 is a perfect example here, most an exploration game with gunplay and all that, sells well for a month and then slips off the top 20 chart the following month. Other games that are more straight forward "Kill these peoeple constantly" sort of deal continue to sell well.

Hell look at Modern warfare 2. That alone basically proves my point.

I've read the previews of Heavy Rain and I'm still highly interested, but I feel like most will find it unappealing and get bored quickly with it. Can you honestly say that most gamers will stick with a game having you do daily routines like just being around your house, telling your child to do their homework, washing dishes, turning a light off when you leave a room, writing, and so many other things along those lines? I'm pumped for the game and even I can say that those things seem rather boring.

Story is the main draw here, not gameplay. Yes it has the pretty graphics but it isn't a game that is fast paced and many will quickly move past it to whatever the next Call of Duty or Halo is without so much as a second glance in Heavy Rain's direction.

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#45 Boogie_J
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[QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]

Stop putting words in people's mouths. We want games that we can play. That doesn't mean we want shallow shooters.

-Tretiak

Heavy rain is a game that challenging the idea of what gameplay is. you seem to be offended by that

Nowhere did I get "offended" by Heavy Rain's style. I got offended by the user assuming that, when people say that they don't like Heavy Rain's style, it means they want bland shooters instead. Learn to read please.

you seem furious, guy.drink some eggnog and calm down.

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#46 scarface_dm
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If this game is Game of the Generation than this Generation saw wave after wave of mediocore games :|

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#47 -Tretiak
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[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]

[QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

Heavy rain is a game that challenging the idea of what gameplay is. you seem to be offended by that

Boogie_J

Nowhere did I get "offended" by Heavy Rain's style. I got offended by the user assuming that, when people say that they don't like Heavy Rain's style, it means they want bland shooters instead. Learn to read please.

you seem furious, guy.drink some eggnog and calm down.

Yeah, my message just screams furious anger. :roll:

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#48 Kickinurass
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Play indigo prophecy and then come back. That game is more involving and more rpg like than most games out, it had a great story and every decision affected the game. This game has great GAMEPLAY, and will emit amotion out of you when you constantly die early in the game without completing the story because of making poor decisions. This may very well be the game of the generation. Adrian_Cloud

I played Indigo Prophecy and it was enjoyable. The second half devolved into horrible conspiracy theory cliche - but even before then the game wasn't OMG unbelieveable. It was a fresh change of pace, but the lack of actual gameplay is a knock against it. It was an interactive movie - which is not to say it was bad. But if were judging games as a total package then both HR and Indigo Prophecy's lack of actual gameplay is a knock against it.

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#49 clone01
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nah...i think it will be a solid adventure game, along the lines of farenheit and indigo prophecy. personally, a day one purchase for me. but it certainly won't be a revolutionary title, imo.

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#50 Boogie_J
Member since 2007 • 1469 Posts

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]Play indigo prophecy and then come back. That game is more involving and more rpg like than most games out, it had a great story and every decision affected the game. This game has great GAMEPLAY, and will emit amotion out of you when you constantly die early in the game without completing the story because of making poor decisions. This may very well be the game of the generation. Kickinurass

I played Indigo Prophecy and it was enjoyable. The second half devolved into horrible conspiracy theory cliche - but even before then the game wasn't OMG unbelieveable. It was a fresh change of pace, but the lack of actual gameplay is a knock against it. It was an interactive movie - which is not to say it was bad. But if were judging games as a total package then both HR and Indigo Prophecy's lack of actual gameplay is a knock against it.

so..what do you consider to be acceptable gameplay?