its not really hard to avoid... just keep your distance. hell, u even get a rather large warning that you are near a nade... the only people that get killed by this are the newbies. I've been killed a couple of times or so, but it just reminds me to be more careful... now, the helecopter... thats another thing...
they are easy to avoid. only thing that annoys me is how it seems to be a kill even if you're barely in the blast radius. there's no reason a martyrdom grenade is more powerful than a regular grenade
What do you mean easy kill??? Everybody uses it, just dont be near the dead body and your fine I always used Last Stand over Martydom, got waaay more kills that way
at one lan I was playing with martyrdom and we were playing search and destroy, enemy team planted a bomb and i was defusing, less than a second left on the defuse all enemy's dead, a teammate shoots and kills me and then try's to disarm the bomb, BAM he dies and we lose the round...
at one lan I was playing with martyrdom and we were playing search and destroy, enemy team planted a bomb and i was defusing, less than a second left on the defuse all enemy's dead, a teammate shoots and kills me and then try's to disarm the bomb, BAM he dies and we lose the round...redbaron3
you should be happy, thx to martyrdom your traitor teammate didnt get the defuse points. MartydomFTW
People who complain about it are more noobish than the ones who use it. Its very easy to avoid.
DealRogers
Nono, see. I complain even though it's still easy to avoid, massive range, insta-kill, works even when the player has no grenades. These are things that need to be fixed. Nothing worse than killing one guy, avoiding his martyrdom and ending up next to another M grenade. I'm pretty hardcore at COD4 but the perk obviously needs tweaking if it's to remain IMO.
People who complain about it are more noobish than the ones who use it. Its very easy to avoid.
inertk
Nono, see. I complain even though it's still easy to avoid, massive range, insta-kill, works even when the player has no grenades. These are things that need to be fixed. Nothing worse than killing one guy, avoiding his martyrdom and ending up next to another M grenade. I'm pretty hardcore at COD4 but the perk obviously needs tweaking if it's to remain IMO.
In a way it is balancing though. I know people hate "Noob" games but If you are aiming to entertain everybody then letting the poor players kill the best, even if it is a little unfair, leads to more even games. It's no fun getting no kills. It is probably one of the reasons COD4 is so popular.
No, it needs to be removed completely. There's nothing worse than trying to avoid your OWN teammates martyrdom only to run past him into another guys in hardcore.
Martyrdom is really annoying. Its not so much from the people that I kill, but the people I don't kill. I'm just running past, or around a corner and I just explode, cause thats where the martyr got killed, and obviously i didn't see him get killed or anything. If I kill the guy sure I can roll out of the way or what not thats fine. 2 things they need to fix. Martyrdom, either remove it completely or have it so that it can only kill the player that killed the martyr. Last Stand - I Absolutely HATE the fact that if you kill the guy and then he goes to last stand, and some one else kills him in last stand, they get the kill and you get an assist, when it should be the other way around.
[QUOTE="redbaron3"]at one lan I was playing with martyrdom and we were playing search and destroy, enemy team planted a bomb and i was defusing, less than a second left on the defuse all enemy's dead, a teammate shoots and kills me and then try's to disarm the bomb, BAM he dies and we lose the round...sikanderahmed
you should be happy, thx to martyrdom your traitor teammate didnt get the defuse points. MartydomFTW
yeah but it was at a mini tournament and we lost because of it XD
[QUOTE="navstar29"]Martyrdom is really annoying. Its not so much from the people that I kill, but the people I don't kill. I'm just running past, or around a corner and I just explode, cause thats where the martyr got killed, and obviously i didn't see him get killed or anything. If I kill the guy sure I can roll out of the way or what not thats fine. 2 things they need to fix. Martyrdom, either remove it completely or have it so that it can only kill the player that killed the martyr. Last Stand - I Absolutely HATE the fact that if you kill the guy and then he goes to last stand, and some one else kills him in last stand, they get the kill and you get an assist, when it should be the other way around. I totally agree with the last stand statement. I like it but I just don't like getting robbed from it.
People who complain about it are more noobish than the ones who use it. Its very easy to avoid.
DealRogers
Not when I run in the middle of you and your three teammates and you all bump into each other trying to avoid it.
Martyrdom is really annoying. Its not so much from the people that I kill, but the people I don't kill. I'm just running past, or around a corner and I just explode, cause thats where the martyr got killed, and obviously i didn't see him get killed or anything. If I kill the guy sure I can roll out of the way or what not thats fine. 2 things they need to fix. Martyrdom, either remove it completely or have it so that it can only kill the player that killed the martyr. Last Stand - I Absolutely HATE the fact that if you kill the guy and then he goes to last stand, and some one else kills him in last stand, they get the kill and you get an assist, when it should be the other way around.navstar29
If I have to share a last stand kill, give me more points, which was done in WaW. I do not see IW dropping that system.
i'm sorry but if you listen you can always hear the nade drop so i never died alot from it i don't really get why people complain about it so much. the one thing they need to take out is the insane length of grenade throws and the noob tube. especially the noob tube i can't count how many times i get killed so far away from a guy who took no time to aim and just fired away and got a kill
People who complain about it are more noobish than the ones who use it. Its very easy to avoid.
DealRogers
Yea play domination, it's a pain people just run towards B because they know they have a martydom and theres no one it's gonna be taken if he dies right on it.
People who complain about it are more noobish than the ones who use it. Its very easy to avoid.
DealRogers
Martydom is cheap. Just because one complains about it doesn't mean they're one to get caught by it often.This isjustsome counter argument used by martydom users to elude thefact this tactic is very cheap.
Why remove it? It's one of the things that made COD4 interesting and adds to gameplay/strategy. I never use it but I think it's fun to have to doge the grenades once in a while... it keeps you waiting for the little "BOOP" noise after you kill somebody, it's an extra thing to watch out for and I don't mind dying from it once in a while...
Why remove it? It's one of the things that made COD4 interesting and adds to gameplay/strategy. I never use it but I think it's fun to have to doge the grenades once in a while... it keeps you waiting for the little "BOOP" noise after you kill somebody, it's an extra thing to watch out for and I don't mind dying from it once in a while...Messiahbolical-
That's what random grenade chucking, C4s and claymores are for. LoL
[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Why remove it? It's one of the things that made COD4 interesting and adds to gameplay/strategy. I never use it but I think it's fun to have to doge the grenades once in a while... it keeps you waiting for the little "BOOP" noise after you kill somebody, it's an extra thing to watch out for and I don't mind dying from it once in a while...dark-warmachine
That's what random grenade chucking, C4s and claymores are for. LoL Most FPS' have those already and they're never the same as martyrdom anyways. Martyrdom is one of the small things that makes COD4 unique.
What do you mean easy kill??? Everybody uses it, just dont be near the dead body and your fine I always used Last Stand over Martydom, got waaay more kills that wayPOJO_MOFO
I don't use it (Martyrdom that is, Last Stand you still get to earn) :D, that is no lie either. The reason I hate it is people mention how realistic the game was when it first came out then I see some guy drops a live grenade after he dies and then I just laugh at whoever thinks this game is realistic to the core.
[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]That's what random grenade chucking, C4s and claymores are for. LoLMessiahbolical-
Most FPS' have those already and they're never the same as martyrdom anyways. Martyrdom is one of the small things that makes COD4 unique.I thought the main point of your comment was to expessthe deepsense of awareness, not thatsome feature was unique to COD4. My bad.
the only people that are not annoyed from it are campers as it is not really a threat for them. aggressive players get lots of trouble from it no matter what their skill is.
If they take out Juggernaut, they need to take out Stopping Power too. I'd rather they just left them both in. Anyway, in regard to Martyrdom, I think they should scrap it. Nothing worse than spawning right over someone's corpse and hearing a little *clink*.
It shouldn't be taken out at all. They should only add to the new game..I don't understand the frustration of people.
The only place that you can be frustrated is playing headquarters in shipment. Other than that, you should be able to easily get away from it. it's like 2 seconds after it's dropped.
Sometimes it is very helpful for you to use. In games such as domination and headquarters...Just don't use it on hardcore.. Nothing worse than getting killed by a martyrdom team kill.
However i do dislike juggernaught a lot. i prefer playing hardcore anyways.
[QUOTE="navstar29"]Martyrdom is really annoying. Its not so much from the people that I kill, but the people I don't kill. I'm just running past, or around a corner and I just explode, cause thats where the martyr got killed, and obviously i didn't see him get killed or anything. If I kill the guy sure I can roll out of the way or what not thats fine. 2 things they need to fix. Martyrdom, either remove it completely or have it so that it can only kill the player that killed the martyr. Last Stand - I Absolutely HATE the fact that if you kill the guy and then he goes to last stand, and some one else kills him in last stand, they get the kill and you get an assist, when it should be the other way around. I completely agree with you, but at least Last Stand takes a bit of skill to get that kill before you die, unlike martyrdom.
People who complain about it are more noobish than the ones who use it. Its very easy to avoid.
W1NGMAN-
Yea play domination, it's a pain people just run towards B because they know they have a martydom and theres no one it's gonna be taken if he dies right on it.
yea martyrdoms are the worst on domination, kinda ruins the game
cant believe people are defending it still. SIMPLE FACT. don't reward a player for dieing. absolutely idiotic that when you kill a player, he can somehow have the ability to kill people with a grenade that has a shorter fuse than a regular one. Probably the worst decision in a multiplayer game. it might be easy to avoid, but sometimes, it can be impossible to avoid. shoot one guy, drops grenade, turn around, shoot another guy, drops another guy, screwed.
cant believe people are defending it still. SIMPLE FACT. don't reward a player for dieing. absolutely idiotic that when you kill a player, he can somehow have the ability to kill people with a grenade that has a shorter fuse than a regular one. Probably the worst decision in a multiplayer game. it might be easy to avoid, but sometimes, it can be impossible to avoid. shoot one guy, drops grenade, turn around, shoot another guy, drops another guy, screwed.
Arjdagr8
no..whats idiotic is a playing running onto a dead body not expecting it... thats idiocy.. a good player wont die in that situation
No, it needs to be removed completely. There's nothing worse than trying to avoid your OWN teammates martyrdom only to run past him into another guys in hardcore.Zoso-8
I do think it is a little cheap as if it doesnt kill you, it can force you out of cover only to be killed by another opponent. Same with the grenade spam perk. Now its not to say when you use them its not a good advantage. Its still a bit cheap. Honestly I think it needs to be balanced a little more...
cant believe people are defending it still. SIMPLE FACT. don't reward a player for dieing. absolutely idiotic that when you kill a player, he can somehow have the ability to kill people with a grenade that has a shorter fuse than a regular one. Probably the worst decision in a multiplayer game. it might be easy to avoid, but sometimes, it can be impossible to avoid. shoot one guy, drops grenade, turn around, shoot another guy, drops another guy, screwed.
campzor
no..whats idiotic is a playing running onto a dead body not expecting it... thats idiocy.. a good player wont die in that situation u realise the point of a grenade is to flank out an enemy, as in it has to have a blast radius. you think people just run over dead corpses or something? of course not, but there are situations where u cant avoid it. it practically ruins domination and headquarters. and it still stands, its idiotic to REWARD A PLAYER FOR DIEING. think what you will but that is true.
cant believe people are defending it still. SIMPLE FACT. don't reward a player for dieing. absolutely idiotic that when you kill a player, he can somehow have the ability to kill people with a grenade that has a shorter fuse than a regular one. Probably the worst decision in a multiplayer game. it might be easy to avoid, but sometimes, it can be impossible to avoid. shoot one guy, drops grenade, turn around, shoot another guy, drops another guy, screwed.
campzor
no..whats idiotic is a playing running onto a dead body not expecting it... thats idiocy.. a good player wont die in that situation
What about when your getting shot at, you knife someone and because you're being damaged the grenade that he magically dropped on the ground bounces up and hits you to kill you without even exploding you can't avoid that. And don't say it doesn't happen cause it happened to me a few times. or what about when someone else kills someone then you run over the dead persons body with no time to react. Just face it martyrdom is cheap.
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