Mass Effect 2 - Graphics King Fail

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#1 metal-movement
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I just watched some Mass Effect 2 gameplay right now and noticed that the enemies and your partners don't even have self shadowing. So did they really have sacrifice self shadowing just so the 360 can keep a decent 30 frames per second? I mean this game IS on the super ultra powerful 360 right? Then how come they have to sacrifice self shadowing just so the game can keep the framerate locked at 30? I mean Killzone 2 had tons of lighting & self shadows running in real time and the game runs at 30fps......Not to mention UC2

ME 2 Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFiAxt6vqpU

LOL and some people were saying this game is on par with Uncharted 2 in terms of Graphics lol. Advice, to qualify as a Graphics King runner up against Uncharted 2, you must first need self shadowing......If you don't even have self shadowing, then you should try competing against the Wii's Graphics.

Graphical Hype Fail

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#2 Valiant_Rebel
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There is a sticky at the top for your convenience if you want to talk about this game.

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#3 Arctic_Grillz
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but.....ME2 technology king!
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#4 HavocV3
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who said graphics king, proof?

better game than KZ2 overall, at least.

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#5 metal-movement
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who said graphics king, proof?

better game than KZ2 overall, at least.

HavocV3

Heard it many times.

Now lets hope Halo Reach have self shadowing

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#6 Brainhunter
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I still think it looks very graphically impressive. The gameplay footage though makes me think it really is more of a shooter than an RPG. The RPG elements are "overlayed" and add "depth" to the shooting mechanics, but everything points towards a third-person shooter, from the cover mechanics to the real-time hip and aimed firing.
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#7 BlancoBX
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not locked yet? surprised the mods have been pretty quick today..but it is really late

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#9 funsohng
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this is the first time i saw a ME gameplay video (either 1st or 2nd) man, i didnt expect that much of a shooter elements, i was kinda expecting something like KOTOR. i really need to get this game
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#10 opex07
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Im pretty sure it has self shadowing:

shadow

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#11 HavocV3
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[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

who said graphics king, proof?

better game than KZ2 overall, at least.

metal-movement

Heard it many times.

Now lets hope Halo Reach have self shadowing

Halo Reach could be CE all over again and still be great:roll:

Get over your graphics-only phase.

still no proof, though. Heard it many times vs. me never seeing it, a stand still.

Now if you're talking GOTY, plenty.

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#12 metal-movement
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Im pretty sure it has self shadowing:

shadow

opex07

Nice try, but the PS2 already beat this game at self shadowing

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#13 istreakforfood
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not locked yet? surprised the mods have been pretty quick today..but it is really late

BlancoBX

They are busy playing MAG and Mass Effect 2.

Well mostly MAG..............runs away

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Crak iz King!!!

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#15 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="opex07"]

Im pretty sure it has self shadowing:

shadow

metal-movement

Nice try, but the PS2 already beat this game at self shadowing

saying "nice try" doesn't really discredit his post

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#16 metal-movement
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[QUOTE="metal-movement"]

[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

who said graphics king, proof?

better game than KZ2 overall, at least.

HavocV3

Heard it many times.

Now lets hope Halo Reach have self shadowing

Halo Reach could be CE all over again and still be great:roll:

Get over your graphics-only phase.

still no proof, though. Heard it many times vs. me never seeing it, a stand still.

Now if you're talking GOTY, plenty.

I'm sorry but if a system can't handle self shadowing at 30fps, it must be weak

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#17 Silenthps
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im playing the game right now and yeah, it has self shadowing...
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#18 BlancoBX
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[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

not locked yet? surprised the mods have been pretty quick today..but it is really late

metal-movement

Can't handle the Truth?

Even the PS2 can handle self shadowing at 30fps

cant handle reading the rules of this message board? there is a sticky on anything mass effect related at the very top junior

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#19 opex07
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Nice try, but the PS2 already beat this game at self shadowing

metal-movement

I just watched some Mass Effect 2 gameplay right now and noticed that the enemies and your partners don't even have self shadowing.metal-movement

Ok well does it have no Self Shadowing, or does it have some but its poorly implemented, make up your mind.

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#20 HavocV3
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[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

[QUOTE="metal-movement"]

Heard it many times.

Now lets hope Halo Reach have self shadowing

metal-movement

Halo Reach could be CE all over again and still be great:roll:

Get over your graphics-only phase.

still no proof, though. Heard it many times vs. me never seeing it, a stand still.

Now if you're talking GOTY, plenty.

I'm sorry but if a system can't handle self shadowing at 30fps, it must be weak

If a system can't handle a game and needs mandatory installs after each section, it is OBVIOUSLY weak:roll:

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#21 felipebo
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Wow, this managed this long without a lock?

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#22 mtradr43
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nothing to see here, just a cow upset that mag sucks in comparison and walked off to die being released on the same day as me2
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#23 opex07
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shadow

another

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#25 KristoffBrujah
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http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect2workingtitle/images/0/3/?ontology=13454&mb=mass-effect2-lc&tag=thumbs_below;thumb;3

I see shadows. Fail thread. IB4 lock and ban

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#26 Tessellation
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Nice try, but the PS2 already beat this game at self shadowingmetal-movement
You have been proven wrong,the one that needs to stop trying is you :)
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#27 drakecool1
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who said graphics king, proof?

better game than KZ2 overall, at least.

HavocV3

it has to get a 9.0 or above to be better than killzone 2 ur gonna have to wait I can't wait to get ME 2 for my pc which will be the superior version.

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#28 metal-movement
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shadow

another

opex07

So they had enough framerates left to self shadow the main character.

But left all others without a shadow? Even last Gen platforms can handle self shadowing at 30fps

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#29 HavocV3
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[QUOTE="metal-movement"]Nice try, but the PS2 already beat this game at self shadowingTessellation
You have been proven wrong,the one that needs to stop trying is you :)

give him credit, he makes ME2 actually look like an exclusive.

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#31 Tessellation
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lol thread destroyed again LMAO.
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#32 alextherussian
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Since when does Self Shadowing make or break graphics king? Why do you care, if you remember the PS2 had the worst graphics of last generation, but yet still had some of the best games. Basically, Self Shadowing is irrelevant. ME2 will be amazing, and keep up the fan boy way. You make this place amusing...
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#33 zero_snake99
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[QUOTE="opex07"]

shadow

another

metal-movement

So they had enough framerates left to self shadow the main character.

But left all others without a shadow? Even last Gen platforms can handle self shadowing at 30fps

No one cares. It has self shadowing, in fact most 360/ps3 games do these days. If it has dynamic lighting then it SHOULD have self shadowing.

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#34 drakecool1
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nothing to see here, just a cow upset that mag sucks in comparison and walked off to die being released on the same day as me2mtradr43

yea but mag is exclusive ME2 is not so he can just have a pc and play the superior version of ME2

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#35 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="mtradr43"]nothing to see here, just a cow upset that mag sucks in comparison and walked off to die being released on the same day as me2drakecool1

yea but mag is exclusive ME2 is not so he can just have a pc and play the superior version of ME2

assuming his PC can even run ME2
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#36 navyguy21
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Looks great to me :P

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#37 KristoffBrujah
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[QUOTE="KristoffBrujah"]

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect2workingtitle/images/0/3/?ontology=13454&mb=mass-effect2-lc&tag=thumbs_below;thumb;3

I see shadows. Fail thread. IB4 lock and ban

metal-movement

Can't handle the truth?

It hurts don't it?

What's on the floor here?

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect2workingtitle/images/0/32/?ontology=13454&mb=mass-effect2-lc&tag=thumbs_below;thumb;32

Keep digging, you're amusing a good many people.

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#38 lawlessx
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^^ oh god..looking at those pics makes me wanna run right back into ME2 right now
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#39 HavocV3
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[QUOTE="mtradr43"]nothing to see here, just a cow upset that mag sucks in comparison and walked off to die being released on the same day as me2drakecool1

yea but mag is exclusive ME2 is not so he can just have a pc and play the superior version of ME2

reading comprehension says: person A, he never said exclusive,

and obviously TC has no PC to play this game, otherwise he wouldn't bash it.

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#40 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="mtradr43"]nothing to see here, just a cow upset that mag sucks in comparison and walked off to die being released on the same day as me2drakecool1

yea but mag is exclusive ME2 is not so he can just have a pc and play the superior version of ME2

I'd rather play a good multiplat game than a crappy exclusive.

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#43 Teuf_
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Sorry about the delay on that one. He'll be taking a little vacation now.