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Absolutely. But even in what I would consider a true "multiplat" the game looks much more realistic. Crysis 2 is an example of development advancement for PC (new patch) whereas ME2 is almost certainly a 1:1 port. As a 1:1 port for it to look dramatically better on PC tells me that even 'console' developed games are dramatically better on PC. Framerate also provides a different experience, there is nothing worse than the 'chugging' feel of ME2 on console, compared to the 100+fps feel on PC.Looks nice but there's more significant differences in other games.
Mystic-G
Is ME another game from EA that has no AA then? I only own the series on the 360 so I wouldn't know. Multiplats look a hell of a lot better in 1080P with AFx16 though I agree.
FO:NV is a better example :) Im playing it atm maxed out except I did turn AA down because it looked blurry to my eyes, its a completely different experience even if it is a terrible port (good job the community fixed it here and there).
While auto-aim is kinda nice for lazy gaming, I prefer the headshot maximizing (especially with the headshot 'perk') with m/kb m/kb allows you to immerse in the game more as well.ME2 in my 360 looks good enough. And I rather play it with a controller than with a mouse/keyboard because it just feels better.
padaporra
Do you play on a 13" TV? I wouldn't notice much difference then either.not even a half gen difference
Harisemo
I think the hyperbole used by PC gamers is hillarious. Most multiplats DO NOT look a generation better, and even games like Metro 2033 look one generation better at best. Saying multiplats look at least 2 generations better is silly at best. You're saying the difference is greater than the difference between MGS1 and MGS4.
Maybe 2 generations in hardware, but definitely not in games. Crysis, fully modded, looks like real life and infinitely better than Uncharted 3. I think that, most definitely, is half a generation ahead (like say the difference between a Dreamcast game and a Xbox).
ME2 in my 360 looks good enough. And I rather play it with a controller than with a mouse/keyboard because it just feels better.
padaporra
Play it with a controller on a PC.
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594686117135443332/2365C20BED92EE57FBC7C5F05CE25474DBFA1AA5/ Fallout:NV PC as another example.ehussein1379
Is that supposed to be impressive or something? :|
No AA? Disappointing.GhoXLook at my resolution :) Also, other than forced in the driver there is no AA in ME2. Or is that wrong? I couldn't find the option.
[QUOTE="GhoX"]No AA? Disappointing.ehussein1379Look at my resolution :) Also, other than forced in the driver there is no AA is there? I couldn't find the option. Exactly. Even x2 forced AA would do well to remove a lot of that jagginess. If you are concerned about performance, use MLAA if you have an ATI card.
[QUOTE="ehussein1379"][QUOTE="GhoX"]No AA? Disappointing.GhoXLook at my resolution :) Also, other than forced in the driver there is no AA is there? I couldn't find the option. Exactly. Even x2 forced AA would do well to remove a lot of that jagginess. If you are concerned about performance, use MLAA if you have an ATI card. I've never been a fan of forced AA (for no logical reason). I'll give it a try though, at 2560x1600 I barely noticed the jaggies, but looking at that SS they are definitely there.
[QUOTE="ehussein1379"]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594686117135443332/2365C20BED92EE57FBC7C5F05CE25474DBFA1AA5/ Fallout:NV PC as another example.RawDeal_basic
Is that supposed to be impressive or something? :|
Did you play NV on console? Remember that location? A muddy river sums it up.or bad company 2;) or Just Cause 2.[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]Try comparing Metro 2033 on PC to the 360 version. :Plawlessx
Man Mass Effect is a terrible example, if there were any game that could have benefited from higher res textures and better AA this was it. I am disapointed every because I know that it should be better. Not only that, but there is no mod support so i can't even get better textures from mods. Feels bad man...
I hear you, but ME2 is a good game, and compared to the consoles looks *good* (not great). JC2 PC is a world of difference. Makes the consoles look like calculators doing 256 colors.Man Mass Effect is a terrible example, if there were any game that could have benefited from higher res textures and better AA this was it. I am disapointed every because I know that it should be better. Not only that, but there is no mod support so i can't even get better textures from mods. Feels bad man...
marq4porsche
ME2 in my 360 looks good enough. And I rather play it with a controller than with a mouse/keyboard because it just feels better.
padaporra
You had to ruin it with the controller thing. You could have said I prefer the couch, or a big TV.
Just take your 360 controller and plug it in your PC. It will work just fine.
ME2 in my 360 looks good enough. And I rather play it with a controller than with a mouse/keyboard because it just feels better.
padaporra
Stupid excuse not to play the better version. As i recall, you cant use xbox controller for ME2 but theres always xpadder or any software that mimics keyboard/mouse to a controller.
It doesn't look two generations ahead, but it does look substantially better on PC. Especially if you force anti-aliasing. In my opinion the lack of anti-aliasing on the consoles hurts the game's graphics more than anything.
When you clean up the jaggies, have better texture filtering, higher resolution, and a much smoother framerate it really does have a big impact in how good the game looks.
The consoles are at least ~2 generations behind a modern PC. But does that translate to multiplat games? Yes. After playing ME2 on PS3 I bought it for PC, check out this screenshot: http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595814531166580800/5EEA5CAAD8374C2CB85C4F5208678D323F04C447/ [sorry can't link] I went to the same location on my PS3, the difference is incredible. So much more detail, more fluid and more immersive on the PC side. I don't know how you consolers do it, but grats!ehussein1379
Its more like 6 now
Oh you're just being silly. ME2 is one of the worst PC/360 multiplats to use as an example.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-mass-effect-2-article?page=2
Oh you're just being silly. ME2 is one of the worst PC/360 multiplats to use as an example.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-mass-effect-2-article?page=2
gamecubepad
Yeah, ME2 is mostly just res and framerate and a bit better shadowing, almost a direct port. But luckly mods can help with those character models :P
If you actually play both versions instead of just looking at screenshots I am sure you will notice quite a big difference.
kalipekona
Hee hee. I started with the PC version and later picked up the 360 version. I even downloaded ripped 3dsmax files and rendered them in C4D with GI, AO, and caustics. That was barely a gen difference. 3dsmax and mental ray would have probably made a bigger difference, but I'm not that savvy when it comes to 3D rendering.
Watch the HD vid comparison in the link I provided.
[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]Absolutely. But even in what I would consider a true "multiplat" the game looks much more realistic. Crysis 2 is an example of development advancement for PC (new patch) whereas ME2 is almost certainly a 1:1 port. As a 1:1 port for it to look dramatically better on PC tells me that even 'console' developed games are dramatically better on PC. Framerate also provides a different experience, there is nothing worse than the 'chugging' feel of ME2 on console, compared to the 100+fps feel on PC. Once again, ONLY if you have a newer PC. I do not, therefore i do not get 100+ frames. Just because you have a good computer doesn't mean EVERYONE else does.Looks nice but there's more significant differences in other games.
ehussein1379
Mass Effect 2 relies on wide-ranged color scheme to look good, but technically the graphics are worse than RTS such as Dawn Of War 2 and Starcraft 2.
I don't recall Me2 having SSAO, dynamic lighting, POM, Global Illumination (I might be wrong on that), true HDR.
Don't get me wrong but even Starcraft 2 has Parrallax Occlusion Mapping, Specular Maps, SSAO, true HDR and it runs just as good as ME2.
Both don't have native AA though. However, AA is far less important in an RTS than it is in a third-person perspective game like ME2.
For a PC game, ME2 is graphically disappointing. It was my 2010 GOTY though.
[QUOTE="DarthBilf"]To the untrained eye Metro screenshots can appear similar. The example I like to use: VHS looks similar to bluray scene for scene, videophiles know the difference however (wives don't). Similarly the console (VHS) can *appear* similar to bluray (PC) You're ignoring the fact that your OP was incredibly hyperbolic. Saying PC multiplats look a gen better is a stretch. Anything more than that is ridiculous.I think the hyperbole used by PC gamers is hillarious. Most multiplats DO NOT look a generation better, and even games like Metro 2033 look one generation better at best. Saying multiplats look at least 2 generations better is silly at best. You're saying the difference is greater than the difference between MGS1 and MGS4.
ehussein1379
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