mass effect 2. The worst Bioware game?

Bar that Sonic game of course.

I love ME2, and it's one of my favorite games this gen, but i can't help but feel it's that much worse then previous bioware epics.

Am i alone in this?

Jade Empire. Great game but was not their best.

I think it's Bioware's best game.

Jade Empire. Great game but was not their best.

Snagal123

It's Bioware's most polished and refined game ever. Not even Baldur's Gate can quite stack up these days to Mass Effect 2's level of greatness (nostalgia aside).

Jade Empire is THE worst.

I thought Jade Empire was excellent. Fairly short though ...

I can't single out a any one bioware game to be labeled "the worse" honestly. They were all up to par.

well ME2 is FAR better than ME1 IMO...so that right there says no

but....ME1 isn't even the worst

Jade Empire is the worst.....however, still a fantastic game

imo yes because it is barely a role playing game and feels a lot like gears. KOTOR or baldurs gate 2 were their best games. this game is good, but definitely not up there with their best games

There are no worst Bioware games. Even their least successful efforts are better than most games.

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No... just no... X1000

Well considering it is probably my favourite game this generation....Maybe? :P

Bar that Sonic game of course.

I love ME2, and it's one of my favorite games this gen, but i can't help but feel it's that much worse then previous bioware epics.

Am i alone in this?

-Snooze-

It's Bioware's most polished and refined game ever. Not even Baldur's Gate can quite stack up these days to Mass Effect 2's level of greatness (nostalgia aside).

Jade Empire is THE worst.

BioShockOwnz

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It's Bioware's most polished and refined game ever. Not even Baldur's Gate can quite stack up these days to Mass Effect 2's level of greatness (nostalgia aside).

Jade Empire is THE worst.

RedruM_I

ME2 already did. And I'm at around 120 hours, so I'll be past 200 in no time.

I thought Jade Empire was excellent. Fairly short though ...

-Snooze-

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It's Bioware's most polished and refined game ever. Not even Baldur's Gate can quite stack up these days to Mass Effect 2's level of greatness (nostalgia aside).

Jade Empire is THE worst.

BioShockOwnz

ME2 already did. And I'm at around 120 hours, so I'll be past 200 in no time.

I seriously doubt you've played it that much, and found something new each time.

The game simply don't have that much content.

imo yes because it is barely a role playing game and feels a lot like gears. KOTOR or baldurs gate 2 were their best games. this game is good, but definitely not up there with their best games

ironman388

I would argue Neverwinter Nights.. The actual campaigns and what not were quite boring and the game was trying to design for the multiplayer toolset.sSubZerOo

I thought Jade Empire was excellent. Fairly short though ...

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I thought Jade Empire was excellent. Fairly short though ...

texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="RichardStallman"]Completely agree, it's like Bioware forgot to put on this game what made their games good. I honestly lost all faith when Mass Effect 1 was released, but then DA:O restored my faith, and I thought it would be the same with ME2 but it resulted even worse than the first.skinny_man_69

Jade Empire was weak, and Dragon Age was overrated I think.

IMO, it's up there with the first KOTOR. But...I think KOTOR wins still.

... No :|

JE was awesome though. NWN is the worst Bioware game I've played. Good character development system, some fairly entertaining combat, but everything else was unbearably dry.

Bar that Sonic game of course.

I love ME2, and it's one of my favorite games this gen, but i can't help but feel it's that much worse then previous bioware epics.

Am i alone in this?

-Snooze-

Can you even pause the game and issue orders like you could in me1 on pc? From what i heard its just a third person shooter now.

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Bar that Sonic game of course.

I love ME2, and it's one of my favorite games this gen, but i can't help but feel it's that much worse then previous bioware epics.

Am i alone in this?

Midnightshade29

Can you even pause the game and issue orders like you could in me1 on pc? From what i heard its just a third person shooter now.

The game was always on Xbox, so that conspiracy doesn't hold any water whatsoever.

AAA lovely game, my friend. It should be on PS3 sometime. I hope you get to experience its greatness, as everyone should. Don't want folks missing out.

Even if it was, and I really don't think it is, that's like mocking someone for getting a 90 and claiming it the lowest possible A.

imo yes because it is barely a role playing game and feels a lot like gears. KOTOR or baldurs gate 2 were their best games. this game is good, but definitely not up there with their best games

ironman388

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imo yes because it is barely a role playing game and feels a lot like gears. KOTOR or baldurs gate 2 were their best games. this game is good, but definitely not up there with their best games

Midnightshade29

As a huge fan of RPG's, specifially euro types (Larian, Piranha Bytes, etc), I got a sophisticated and streamlined RPG. One that doesn't keep you bogged down in tedious menus and such.

[QUOTE="skinny_man_69"][QUOTE="RichardStallman"]Completely agree, it's like Bioware forgot to put on this game what made their games good. I honestly lost all faith when Mass Effect 1 was released, but then DA:O restored my faith, and I thought it would be the same with ME2 but it resulted even worse than the first.dreman999

Absurd. If you think this, you've not been a fan of Bioware for long. Neverwinter Nights OC was far and away the worst RPG they've put out. This is acknowledged by most fans who have played their stuff from the beginning. IIRC, they even had to make an excuse for it, something like "we only put part of our effort into the OC but its main focus is a toolset."

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Bar that Sonic game of course.

I love ME2, and it's one of my favorite games this gen, but i can't help but feel it's that much worse then previous bioware epics.

Am i alone in this?

BioShockOwnz

Can you even pause the game and issue orders like you could in me1 on pc? From what i heard its just a third person shooter now.

The game was always on Xbox, so that conspiracy doesn't hold any water whatsoever.

AAA lovely game, my friend. It should be on PS3 sometime. I hope you get to experience its great, as everyone should. Don't want folks missing out.

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imo yes because it is barely a role playing game and feels a lot like gears. KOTOR or baldurs gate 2 were their best games. this game is good, but definitely not up there with their best games

BioShockOwnz

As a huge fan of RPG's, specifially euro types (Larian, Piranha Bytes, etc), I got a sophisticated and streamlined RPG. One that doesn't keep you bogged down in tedious menus and such.

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imo yes because it is barely a role playing game and feels a lot like gears. KOTOR or baldurs gate 2 were their best games. this game is good, but definitely not up there with their best games

Midnightshade29

[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"][QUOTE="ironman388"]

imo yes because it is barely a role playing game and feels a lot like gears. KOTOR or baldurs gate 2 were their best games. this game is good, but definitely not up there with their best games

BioShockOwnz

As a huge fan of RPG's, specifially euro types (Larian, Piranha Bytes, etc), I got a sophisticated and streamlined RPG. One that doesn't keep you bogged down in tedious menus and such.

Lirain, pirrahna bytes ect... all make great rpgs... with inventory systems and stats. These games are rpgs. You have inventory screens and character development screens and map screens. You can choose how you want to take on the encounter based off your gear at the time, the environment and the siteuation. The freedome to do that is what makes wrpgs great. Take that away and take out the by the numbers combat and implement a shooting interface and you are left with a third person shooter with dialog. It may still be a good tps but it doesn't sound like an rpg anymore and that is the point i am arguing about.

Again how is it a rpg? Streamlined? By removing the feeling of making yourself more powerful without inventory and stats? Thats not streamlined that's genre changing. Menus aren't bad. Like i said removing inventory and cool gear eliminates your abiltiy to stratigize your next move. You can't apply buffs , you can't go in using a different route.

Midnightshade29

Îts probably my favourite bioware game

Bar that Sonic game of course.

I love ME2, and it's one of my favorite games this gen, but i can't help but feel it's that much worse then previous bioware epics.

Am i alone in this?

-Snooze-

Me2 is definetly the worst. Its hardly an rpg and its very linear.dakan45

Yeah, I don't know how people can call it linear. The bulk of the game is played based on your decisions (you can even skip it), in any order, and choosing to resolve many of them in a way that substantially changes the party member.

How in hell can that be considered linear?