Mass Effect 8.5 was generous.

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#1 deactivated-57dcbd90c2616
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Like the topic says Gamespot was very lenient with the score of this game. Bad frame rate, texture popping, frequent freezes and load screens, clunky combat, barren worlds, terrible driving controls and combat, overheating weapons in the middle of battle, poor leveling system,generic Star Wars rip-off characters.

I'm very dissapointed and was expecting greatness like KOTOR. This game could have definitely benefited from a long delay imo. What do you think of Mass Effect?

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I think it's underrated by far. The game has a few flaws, but it more than makes up for them.
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I thought 8.5 was fine, but I'd rate it higher. Great game. Different strokes for different folks.
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Like the topic says Gamespot was very lenient with the score of this game. Bad frame rate, texture popping, frequent freezes and load screens, clunky combat, barren worlds, terrible driving controls and combat, overheating weapons in the middle of battle, poor leveling system,generic Star Wars rip-off characters.

I'm very dissapointed and was expecting greatness like KOTOR. This game could have definitely benefited from a long delay imo. What do you think of Mass Effect?

Neoguru25

Lol have you even played the game yourself? whats your gamertag, Mass Effect is amazing. You sound like a cow who probably hasnt even played the game. "overheating weapons in the middle of battle", "Rip-ff star wars characters"????? give me a break.

It has a steady framerate, during some spots it does drop with texture pop ins though, same texture problem as gears of war, really not a big deal it happens for like 3 seconds.

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There are obvious flaws in the game, no one is denying that, but overall the gameplay is well enough and the story ultimately saves the day. I'll be playing through it multiple times. Have yet to beat it.
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#6 adastos
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I agree on the fact that this game should have been delayed a year, but I say the score was fair if not at least an 8. If it was delayed we might have saw a 10 or 9.5, but I know M$ was probably cracking the whip on BioWare to finish it, so they would have another title under their belt for '07
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the story was the best part, but even that wasn't enough motivation for me to keep playing. i found the game to be incredibly boring.
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Like the topic says Gamespot was very lenient with the score of this game. Bad frame rate, texture popping, frequent freezes and load screens, clunky combat, barren worlds, terrible driving controls and combat, overheating weapons in the middle of battle, poor leveling system,generic Star Wars rip-off characters.

I'm very dissapointed and was expecting greatness like KOTOR. This game could have definitely benefited from a long delay imo. What do you think of Mass Effect?

Neoguru25

why should weapon overheating affect the score? :?
what's wrong with the levelling system?
what's clunky about the combat?

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8.5 was a fair score.

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I agree a delay would of helped as with any game, but your exaggeration of the game's flaws has me questioning whether or not you even played it.
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#11 deactivated-57dcbd90c2616
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[QUOTE="Neoguru25"]

Like the topic says Gamespot was very lenient with the score of this game. Bad frame rate, texture popping, frequent freezes and load screens, clunky combat, barren worlds, terrible driving controls and combat, overheating weapons in the middle of battle, poor leveling system,generic Star Wars rip-off characters.

I'm very dissapointed and was expecting greatness like KOTOR. This game could have definitely benefited from a long delay imo. What do you think of Mass Effect?

CaseyWegner

why should weapon overheating affect the score? :?
what's wrong with the levelling system?
what's clunky about the combat?

You're in a heated battle and face to face with some biotic super freak and "beep beep beep" your weapon wont fire. The leveling system I thought was too much micro managing and shield increases hardly keeps you from dying ten times against a low-level thug when you get stuck on something. The combat felt jerky to me and not smooth at all you're talking to an enemy one second then your cursor is staring at the ceiling and the enemy fires two heavy shots on you then your dead and watching a long cut scene again (I know you can skip but still).

For some reason it kind of reminded me of Oblivion with the open ended roaming with hardly any guidance. I gave the game a shot but it's just not my thing I guess. Thank god for Gamefly I'm so glad I didn't fork over $65 for this game. Don't hate me for my opinions but I now know for sure I prefer JRPG's over WRPG's.

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Your weapon overheats because you're not specialized enough in it yet. You need to pour some serious points into the columns before they become very powerful and stable and easy to use. It's an RPG, your weapons don't work well because you haven't put time into getting them to work well. For example, my Sniper Rifle was [mostly] useless until I really poured points into it and found an excellent rifle (the best I've found being the Spectre gear model.) The upgrades and mods you choose to put on your weapons will also have a drastic impact on their performances.

Leveling system had too much micro managing? WTH are you tealking about? Micro managing.... with the leveling system? How much time does it take to put 1 - 4 blocks into various columns after you level up (which is seldom, and very, very, very seldom once you hit level 50, it takes FOREVER to move from 55 to 60)? About three seconds, if that?

I don't even know what you're talking about with the cursor at the ceiling and then you're dead thing.

What is your tag?

I ask because it doesn't seem like you've played very much of the game.

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#13 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Neoguru25"]

Like the topic says Gamespot was very lenient with the score of this game. Bad frame rate, texture popping, frequent freezes and load screens, clunky combat, barren worlds, terrible driving controls and combat, overheating weapons in the middle of battle, poor leveling system,generic Star Wars rip-off characters.

I'm very dissapointed and was expecting greatness like KOTOR. This game could have definitely benefited from a long delay imo. What do you think of Mass Effect?

Neoguru25

why should weapon overheating affect the score? :?
what's wrong with the levelling system?
what's clunky about the combat?

You're in a heated battle and face to face with some biotic super freak and "beep beep beep" your weapon wont fire. The leveling system I thought was too much micro managing and shield increases hardly keeps you from dying ten times against a low-level thug when you get stuck on something. The combat felt jerky to me and not smooth at all you're talking to an enemy one second then your cursor is staring at the ceiling and the enemy fires two heavy shots on you then your dead and watching a long cut scene again (I know you can skip but still).

For some reason it kind of reminded me of Oblivion with the open ended roaming with hardly any guidance. I gave the game a shot but it's just not my thing I guess. Thank god for Gamefly I'm so glad I didn't fork over $65 for this game. Don't hate me for my opinions but I now know for sure I prefer JRPG's over WRPG's.

how much of the game did you play? :|

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Neoguru25"]

Like the topic says Gamespot was very lenient with the score of this game. Bad frame rate, texture popping, frequent freezes and load screens, clunky combat, barren worlds, terrible driving controls and combat, overheating weapons in the middle of battle, poor leveling system,generic Star Wars rip-off characters.

I'm very dissapointed and was expecting greatness like KOTOR. This game could have definitely benefited from a long delay imo. What do you think of Mass Effect?

Neoguru25

why should weapon overheating affect the score? :?
what's wrong with the levelling system?
what's clunky about the combat?

You're in a heated battle and face to face with some biotic super freak and "beep beep beep" your weapon wont fire. The leveling system I thought was too much micro managing and shield increases hardly keeps you from dying ten times against a low-level thug when you get stuck on something. The combat felt jerky to me and not smooth at all you're talking to an enemy one second then your cursor is staring at the ceiling and the enemy fires two heavy shots on you then your dead and watching a long cut scene again (I know you can skip but still).

For some reason it kind of reminded me of Oblivion with the open ended roaming with hardly any guidance. I gave the game a shot but it's just not my thing I guess. Thank god for Gamefly I'm so glad I didn't fork over $65 for this game. Don't hate me for my opinions but I now know for sure I prefer JRPG's over WRPG's.

you gonna take that Casey?

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Neoguru25"]

Like the topic says Gamespot was very lenient with the score of this game. Bad frame rate, texture popping, frequent freezes and load screens, clunky combat, barren worlds, terrible driving controls and combat, overheating weapons in the middle of battle, poor leveling system,generic Star Wars rip-off characters.

I'm very dissapointed and was expecting greatness like KOTOR. This game could have definitely benefited from a long delay imo. What do you think of Mass Effect?

Neoguru25

why should weapon overheating affect the score? :?
what's wrong with the levelling system?
what's clunky about the combat?

You're in a heated battle and face to face with some biotic super freak and "beep beep beep" your weapon wont fire. The leveling system I thought was too much micro managing and shield increases hardly keeps you from dying ten times against a low-level thug when you get stuck on something. The combat felt jerky to me and not smooth at all you're talking to an enemy one second then your cursor is staring at the ceiling and the enemy fires two heavy shots on you then your dead and watching a long cut scene again (I know you can skip but still).

For some reason it kind of reminded me of Oblivion with the open ended roaming with hardly any guidance. I gave the game a shot but it's just not my thing I guess. Thank god for Gamefly I'm so glad I didn't fork over $65 for this game. Don't hate me for my opinions but I now know for sure I prefer JRPG's over WRPG's.

Weapon overheating is a gameplay mechanic. I assume you've also knocked down shooters for forcing you to reload. I find it funny you talk about the leveling system involving too much micro-management when ME uses a vastly simplified version of KOTOR's leveling (a game you praised). Shield increases make a huge difference in the game, anyone who has leveled up a tech based character would know that. I found the combat to be very smooth, with only the odd framerate hitch or problem with the cover system. I find it very hard to believe you've ever played Mass Effect.

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The combat sucks in  that game.
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[QUOTE="Neoguru25"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Neoguru25"]

Like the topic says Gamespot was very lenient with the score of this game. Bad frame rate, texture popping, frequent freezes and load screens, clunky combat, barren worlds, terrible driving controls and combat, overheating weapons in the middle of battle, poor leveling system,generic Star Wars rip-off characters.

I'm very dissapointed and was expecting greatness like KOTOR. This game could have definitely benefited from a long delay imo. What do you think of Mass Effect?

CaseyWegner

why should weapon overheating affect the score? :?
what's wrong with the levelling system?
what's clunky about the combat?

You're in a heated battle and face to face with some biotic super freak and "beep beep beep" your weapon wont fire. The leveling system I thought was too much micro managing and shield increases hardly keeps you from dying ten times against a low-level thug when you get stuck on something. The combat felt jerky to me and not smooth at all you're talking to an enemy one second then your cursor is staring at the ceiling and the enemy fires two heavy shots on you then your dead and watching a long cut scene again (I know you can skip but still).

For some reason it kind of reminded me of Oblivion with the open ended roaming with hardly any guidance. I gave the game a shot but it's just not my thing I guess. Thank god for Gamefly I'm so glad I didn't fork over $65 for this game. Don't hate me for my opinions but I now know for sure I prefer JRPG's over WRPG's.

how much of the game did you play? :|

Only about six hours but it was enough time for me to tell I didn't like it. I'm sure if I was to sacrifice all my spare time I would have gotten more out of it but I just don't have the time to invest in it.
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Only about six hours but it was enough time for me to tell I didn't like it. I'm sure if I was to sacrifice all my spare time I would have gotten more out of it but I just don't have the time to invest in it. Neoguru25

seems like you quit before you figured out how to play the game. you're confusing those who've played it. :?

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Only about six hours but it was enough time for me to tell I didn't like it. I'm sure if I was to sacrifice all my spare time I would have gotten more out of it but I just don't have the time to invest in it. Neoguru25

Six hours? Thats it? I was still in the citadel, before becoming a spectre at that time. You have not played enough to form a valid opinion.

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#20 KingOfKonging
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Six hours? Dude, that's nothing.

I spent six hours in the citadel alone gathering / completingside quests and talking to everyone before even really getting into the meat of the game.

You weapons suck right now because you haven't taken the time to level up properly

Same with your armor and shields.

Because of your low level you're finding low level weapons / armor / upgrades / ammo mods.

To me, it sounds like you've played it so little you don't even have a real understanding of the controls, even. If you can't handle even the most basic combat in this game you just haven't played it enough.

An no, the game WON'T hold your hand - you actually have to figure manyof the nuances out yourself (and for people like me, that's a good thing.)

WHat's your tag?

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[QUOTE="Neoguru25"]Only about six hours but it was enough time for me to tell I didn't like it. I'm sure if I was to sacrifice all my spare time I would have gotten more out of it but I just don't have the time to invest in it. CaseyWegner

seems like you quit before you figured out how to play the game. you're confusing those who've played it. :?

Maybe. I had a hard time reading the small white text on my standard def tv the text was blurry and I could not read much of it. It might as well havebeen inJapanese.
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Funny, I thought story and progression were the most important parts of this game. Honestly, why do some of you even play games if you get no enjoyment of it other than to get it done and over with? 6 hours? It took me 30+ and I still didn't complete all the side quests/planet exploration. At no point was I sitting during it where a texture problem occured and said, "Wow, the story sucks really bad now and this game is terrible, who cares about its other features". This game is better than most of the crap released this gen by far. No wonder there is an influx of multiplayer driven games. Are there any gamers out there anymore?
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#23 white45e
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the overheating wont happen if u actually stop firing and wait a second...........

the leveling system isnt hard....

the combat isnt clunky...........

in my personal experience the lag only happen a few times and iv played through twice and texture popin takes like 2 seconds.........................................................

whats ur tag ? id like to add u to my f list cause i doubt you have even played it.

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#24 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Neoguru25"]Only about six hours but it was enough time for me to tell I didn't like it. I'm sure if I was to sacrifice all my spare time I would have gotten more out of it but I just don't have the time to invest in it. Neoguru25

seems like you quit before you figured out how to play the game. you're confusing those who've played it. :?

Maybe. I had a hard time reading the small white text on my standard def tv the text was blurry and I could not read much of it. It might as well havebeen inJapanese.

doesn't sound like the game's fault.

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[QUOTE="Neoguru25"]Only about six hours but it was enough time for me to tell I didn't like it. I'm sure if I was to sacrifice all my spare time I would have gotten more out of it but I just don't have the time to invest in it. Solid_Snake1221

Six hours? Thats it? I was still in the citadel, before becoming a spectre at that time. You have not played enough to form a valid opinion.

You might be right. When I get a hdtv and can read the words in the game and have more free time I might give it another chance.
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Maybe. I had a hard time reading the small white text Neoguru25

LOL!

Yeah, not being able to read any text in ME is going to give you some problems, hahahahaha.

Next time you should play with one hand and both eyes closed and then make a thread about how it's even more broken.

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Much of those can easily be overlooked. Combat is fine. Level system is also fine. Generic Star Wars, not really, ripped from general Science Fiction Space theme.

Overheating weapons? How is it bad? Its part of the grand plan of the battles system.

Frames rate wasn't too bad, it came occasionally, the popins were ignored. A few seconds of wait, and bing all good again.

Barren worlds, yes. But hey nothing major.

Driving needs to be improved, but nothing too serious.

It was a great game with a few falses, that how I see it.

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#28 soulsofblayck
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the overheating wont happen if u actually stop firing and wait a second...........

the leveling system isnt hard....

the combat isnt clunky...........

in my personal experience the lag only happen a few times and iv played through twice and texture popin takes like 2 seconds.........................................................

whats ur tag ? id like to add u to my f list cause i doubt you have even played it.

white45e

People forget that their is a combat/tactical element involved if you actually play on a solid difficuity. Allowing a gun to continuously shoot rapid burst is not fun and gets boring. He's also forgetting that their were upgrades to reduce the heat and that "spell" to allow rapid burst.

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[QUOTE="Neoguru25"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Neoguru25"]Only about six hours but it was enough time for me to tell I didn't like it. I'm sure if I was to sacrifice all my spare time I would have gotten more out of it but I just don't have the time to invest in it. CaseyWegner

seems like you quit before you figured out how to play the game. you're confusing those who've played it. :?

Maybe. I had a hard time reading the small white text on my standard def tv the text was blurry and I could not read much of it. It might as well havebeen inJapanese.

doesn't sound like the game's fault.

not blaming that on the game, that's my crappy tv's fault.
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#30 white45e
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Neoguru25"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Neoguru25"]Only about six hours but it was enough time for me to tell I didn't like it. I'm sure if I was to sacrifice all my spare time I would have gotten more out of it but I just don't have the time to invest in it. Neoguru25

seems like you quit before you figured out how to play the game. you're confusing those who've played it. :?

Maybe. I had a hard time reading the small white text on my standard def tv the text was blurry and I could not read much of it. It might as well havebeen inJapanese.

doesn't sound like the game's fault.

not blaming that on the game, that's my crappy tv's fault.

can u just give your gamertag ?

really what is it

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[QUOTE="Neoguru25"]Maybe. I had a hard time reading the small white text KingOfKonging

LOL!

Yeah, not being able to read any text in ME is going to give you some problems, hahahahaha.

Next time you should play with one hand and both eyes closed and then make a thread about how it's even more broken.

You're a real winner, want to be friends? LOL
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Neoguru25"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Neoguru25"]Only about six hours but it was enough time for me to tell I didn't like it. I'm sure if I was to sacrifice all my spare time I would have gotten more out of it but I just don't have the time to invest in it. Neoguru25

seems like you quit before you figured out how to play the game. you're confusing those who've played it. :?

Maybe. I had a hard time reading the small white text on my standard def tv the text was blurry and I could not read much of it. It might as well havebeen inJapanese.

doesn't sound like the game's fault.

not blaming that on the game, that's my crappy tv's fault.

you seem to have quite a long list of things you're blaming on the game.

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#33 white45e
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[QUOTE="KingOfKonging"]

[QUOTE="Neoguru25"]Maybe. I had a hard time reading the small white text Neoguru25

LOL!

Yeah, not being able to read any text in ME is going to give you some problems, hahahahaha.

Next time you should play with one hand and both eyes closed and then make a thread about how it's even more broken.

You're a real winner, want to be friends? LOL

stop posting about the game until you give your tag.

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I think it's underrated by far. The game has a few flaws, but it more than makes up for them.Solid_Snake1221

Same here. It's much better than KotOR IMO.

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#36 7thSIN
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Sounds like you didnt know how to play the game to well and then nitpicked some of its flaws which were barely noticable to me. The leveling is very much like Kotor, yet it was confusing? The driving is simple and the driving combat is also very easy if your good with the mako. Most of the time I jump out of the mako and fight stuff for more exp anyways.

Most of the "The Bad" is also copied and pasted in threads, yetthey were things that never bothered me.

Things that did bother me were:

Ally AI pathing while following. (which 90% of this can be fixed by properly commanding your ally's)

Ally's getting stuck on objects(Which again can be totally fixed by not being lazy and properly commanding them)

Getting in and out of the Mako for battle can cause your Ally's to constant fire or they just dissapear.(You have to save and reload real quick or load into a new area)

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#37 deactivated-57dcbd90c2616
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[QUOTE="Neoguru25"][QUOTE="KingOfKonging"]

[QUOTE="Neoguru25"]Maybe. I had a hard time reading the small white text white45e

LOL!

Yeah, not being able to read any text in ME is going to give you some problems, hahahahaha.

Next time you should play with one hand and both eyes closed and then make a thread about how it's even more broken.

You're a real winner, want to be friends? LOL

stop posting about the game until you give your tag.

try and make me tough guy, I can say what I want, got it?
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#38 white45e
Member since 2006 • 2453 Posts
[QUOTE="white45e"][QUOTE="Neoguru25"][QUOTE="KingOfKonging"]

[QUOTE="Neoguru25"]Maybe. I had a hard time reading the small white text Neoguru25

LOL!

Yeah, not being able to read any text in ME is going to give you some problems, hahahahaha.

Next time you should play with one hand and both eyes closed and then make a thread about how it's even more broken.

You're a real winner, want to be friends? LOL

stop posting about the game until you give your tag.

try and make me tough guy, I can say what I want, got it?

so in other words u havnt even played it..

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#40 CaseyWegner
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and now you went and got yourself suspended for flaming.