Mass Effect has the best combat system in gaming... (the essence of the game)

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#1 colmusterd28
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The much discussed combat system in the game of the year is some of the best gun play /special powers action in gaming...

heres why...

It is wildly imaginative and massively deep.... and user friendly. I have found that their is no greater gaming joy than clearing out a room of troops and having complete control over bolstering shields, weapon selection on the fly, power tossing 4 enemies clear accross the bunker, and using biotics to overload their weapons when me and my crew come busting through the door...

Everytime I waste a group of enemies with the pressicion of a surgeon using any and all of my six member crew it reminds me of the real evolution of Mass Effect... Involvement... so the days of "Master Flury" are over KOTOR fans... So the days of bringing the same characters along everywhere you go.... BioWare's true achievment is involvment of everything in game, not just for stat bolstering but to add to the masterpiece that is, Mass Effect...

for Cedmin..... This quality of combat is only achived currantly on your friendly neighborhood XBOX360...

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Ok so this translate into the 360 being better than the PC how?

Oh yeah. PC doesn't have Mass Effect.

There. Now there is a point to this thread for system wars.

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#3 mightyboosh13
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Confused about your PC comment?

Where does he mention PC?

The combat system is good for a RPG with guns. But it needs a little tidying up and it is towards the end to easy while at the beginning very hard.

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What I don't like is that weapon menu stops the gameplay. In one of the vids I saw, the guy brought out the menu like 15 times in one min.
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lets not go nuts
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What I don't like is that weapon menu stops the gameplay. In one of the vids I saw, the guy brought out the menu like 15 times in one min.m_machine024

if you actually have played the game, which obviously you havent, youd be grateful to be able to do that in some of the battles, especially on the higher difficulties.

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#7 Nikalai_88
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Infinity Engine > ME
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Yeah the combat system in Mass Effect was great I thought, only the enemy A.I was a bit lacking sometimes and by the end of it I found things too easy.
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#9 Thebettertwin
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i agree i love thowing about the enemies then getting my teammates to overload their weapons etc
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#10 Hoobinator
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Infinity Engine > MENikalai_88

Diverse dialogue system >>>>> overly done linear scripted sequences.

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[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]Infinity Engine > MEHoobinator

Diverse dialogue system >>>>> overly done linear scripted sequences.

Diverse dialogue system>ME's dialogue system> "overly done" linear scripted cut scenes, btw what the hell does that mean?

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#12 mtradr43
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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]Infinity Engine > MEAdrian_Cloud

Diverse dialogue system >>>>> overly done linear scripted sequences.

Diverse dialogue system>ME's dialogue system> "overly done" linear scripted cut scenes, btw what the hell does that mean?

he may be referring to the five minute cutscenes and cgi crap every 10 minutes or less in every final fantasy game

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#13 Hoobinator
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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]Infinity Engine > MEAdrian_Cloud

Diverse dialogue system >>>>> overly done linear scripted sequences.

Diverse dialogue system>ME's dialogue system> "overly done" linear scripted cut scenes, btw what the hell does that mean?

What I meant was that Mass Effects whole game, dialogiue as well as the real time combat system is better than COD4 set piece gameplay, which is all it is. One set piece moment after the other i.e. scripted linear sequences. Also the computer AI is cheap, not so much intelligence as omniscience.

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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]What I don't like is that weapon menu stops the gameplay. In one of the vids I saw, the guy brought out the menu like 15 times in one min.mtradr43

if you actually have played the game, which obviously you havent, youd be grateful to be able to do that in some of the battles, especially on the higher difficulties.

lol ok. Can't really talk.
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]What I don't like is that weapon menu stops the gameplay. In one of the vids I saw, the guy brought out the menu like 15 times in one min.mtradr43

if you actually have played the game, which obviously you havent, youd be grateful to be able to do that in some of the battles, especially on the higher difficulties.

exactly... its part of the experience... and when you get the hang of it... switching and manipulating the battles to your liking is quick... well done BioWare...

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Meh, its an alright game. I might rent it, certainly not the best combat in gaming though, thats a bold statement if i've ever heard one. It certainly has solid gameplay mechanics though. The game got the score it deserved, but if you compare to other games that have gotten an 8.5, it completely blows them away.
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#17 Nikalai_88
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]Infinity Engine > MEHoobinator

Diverse dialogue system >>>>> overly done linear scripted sequences.

Diverse dialogue system>ME's dialogue system> "overly done" linear scripted cut scenes, btw what the hell does that mean?

What I meant was that Mass Effects whole game, dialogiue as well as the real time combat system is better than COD4 set piece gameplay, which is all it is. One set piece moment after the other i.e. scripted linear sequences. Also the computer AI is cheap, not so much intelligence as omniscience.

I don't think Hoobinator knows what the Infinity Engine is and thinks I am reffering to Infinity Ward, the makers of Call of Duty 4, so you see you should trust his RPG advice because clearly he knows so much about them /sacasm

Anyways dosen't ME have not-so-amazing AI and absolutly lacks great scripted moments, great enemies and well placed (not scripted) situations?

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Welll I'm just waitng till it comes for the PC. Which it will.
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#19 colmusterd28
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Welll I'm just waitng till it comes for the PC. Which it will.bobaban

enjoy your wait.... hey maybe Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect PC will release on the same day...!!! everyone wins....!!!

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[QUOTE="bobaban"]Welll I'm just waitng till it comes for the PC. Which it will.colmusterd28

enjoy your wait.... hey maybe Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect PC will release on the same day...!!! everyone wins....!!!

Hey I don't mind waiting, I have other great games to keep me busy

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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]

[QUOTE="bobaban"]Welll I'm just waitng till it comes for the PC. Which it will.Lonelynight

enjoy your wait.... hey maybe Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect PC will release on the same day...!!! everyone wins....!!!

Hey I don't mind waiting, I have other great games to keep me busy

Keep in mind the horrible Halo 2 port though.
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"]

[QUOTE="bobaban"]Welll I'm just waitng till it comes for the PC. Which it will.taker42

enjoy your wait.... hey maybe Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect PC will release on the same day...!!! everyone wins....!!!

Hey I don't mind waiting, I have other great games to keep me busy

Keep in mind the horrible Halo 2 port though.

When do you think you guys will see The Witcher and Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer?

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My brother is having a hard time with it. Even though I haven't played it myself yet I keep asking him why he never uses the cover mechanic, squad tactics or the action wheel.

Although he's not the most skilled gamer anyway, he just sticks to the basics and hopes for the best.

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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]Infinity Engine > MENikalai_88

Diverse dialogue system >>>>> overly done linear scripted sequences.

Diverse dialogue system>ME's dialogue system> "overly done" linear scripted cut scenes, btw what the hell does that mean?

What I meant was that Mass Effects whole game, dialogiue as well as the real time combat system is better than COD4 set piece gameplay, which is all it is. One set piece moment after the other i.e. scripted linear sequences. Also the computer AI is cheap, not so much intelligence as omniscience.

I don't think Hoobinator knows what the Infinity Engine is and thinks I am reffering to Infinity Ward, the makers of Call of Duty 4, so you see you should trust his RPG advice because clearly he knows so much about them /sacasm

Anyways dosen't ME have not-so-amazing AI and absolutly lacks great scripted moments, great enemies and well placed (not scripted) situations?

Infinity engine as in Baldurs Gate 2? I think Hoobinator doesn't know much about RPG's too.

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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]What I don't like is that weapon menu stops the gameplay. In one of the vids I saw, the guy brought out the menu like 15 times in one min.mtradr43

if you actually have played the game, which obviously you havent, youd be grateful to be able to do that in some of the battles, especially on the higher difficulties.

Also, I dont know what vid you saw, but I rarely had to pull up that screen anywhere near that many times in a single round of combat. A few times, I may have come close, but you will have times you NEED to recharge your shields, etc. etc. But anywhere close to that number is very, very rare.

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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]Infinity Engine > MENikalai_88

Diverse dialogue system >>>>> overly done linear scripted sequences.

Diverse dialogue system>ME's dialogue system> "overly done" linear scripted cut scenes, btw what the hell does that mean?

What I meant was that Mass Effects whole game, dialogiue as well as the real time combat system is better than COD4 set piece gameplay, which is all it is. One set piece moment after the other i.e. scripted linear sequences. Also the computer AI is cheap, not so much intelligence as omniscience.

I don't think Hoobinator knows what the Infinity Engine is and thinks I am reffering to Infinity Ward, the makers of Call of Duty 4, so you see you should trust his RPG advice because clearly he knows so much about them /sacasm

Anyways dosen't ME have not-so-amazing AI and absolutly lacks great scripted moments, great enemies and well placed (not scripted) situations?

The AI is pretty good for the most part. As far as the rest of the question.... are you kidding? This story is unmatched! And it wouldnt be, without villains that live up to their parts! It sounds like you really need to try out this game!

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Hmm. No.
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Thecombat is definitely the best I have ever played.
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[QUOTE="mtradr43"]

[QUOTE="m_machine024"]What I don't like is that weapon menu stops the gameplay. In one of the vids I saw, the guy brought out the menu like 15 times in one min.JediRiff

if you actually have played the game, which obviously you havent, youd be grateful to be able to do that in some of the battles, especially on the higher difficulties.

Also, I dont know what vid you saw, but I rarely had to pull up that screen anywhere near that many times in a single round of combat. A few times, I may have come close, but you will have times you NEED to recharge your shields, etc. etc. But anywhere close to that number is very, very rare.

Link

Click the "Adept combat HD" one. I'm not trying to troll and stuff. Just judging on what I saw. I suppose it depends on the player. Oh and I exaggerated a little.:P

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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]

[QUOTE="bobaban"]Welll I'm just waitng till it comes for the PC. Which it will.Lonelynight

enjoy your wait.... hey maybe Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect PC will release on the same day...!!! everyone wins....!!!

Hey I don't mind waiting, I have other great games to keep me busy

and then its pretty much all shooters for the PS3 for the next 2-3 months? UT3, Haze & orange box. PS3=shoota console
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[QUOTE="JediRiff"][QUOTE="mtradr43"]

[QUOTE="m_machine024"]What I don't like is that weapon menu stops the gameplay. In one of the vids I saw, the guy brought out the menu like 15 times in one min.m_machine024

if you actually have played the game, which obviously you havent, youd be grateful to be able to do that in some of the battles, especially on the higher difficulties.

Also, I dont know what vid you saw, but I rarely had to pull up that screen anywhere near that many times in a single round of combat. A few times, I may have come close, but you will have times you NEED to recharge your shields, etc. etc. But anywhere close to that number is very, very rare.

Link

Click the "Adept combat HD" one. I'm not trying to troll and stuff. Just judging on what I saw. I suppose it depends on the player. Oh and I exaggerated a little.:P

in adept combat you do use the wheel alot, but by god its fun!
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[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]Infinity Engine > MEJediRiff

Diverse dialogue system >>>>> overly done linear scripted sequences.

Diverse dialogue system>ME's dialogue system> "overly done" linear scripted cut scenes, btw what the hell does that mean?

What I meant was that Mass Effects whole game, dialogiue as well as the real time combat system is better than COD4 set piece gameplay, which is all it is. One set piece moment after the other i.e. scripted linear sequences. Also the computer AI is cheap, not so much intelligence as omniscience.

I don't think Hoobinator knows what the Infinity Engine is and thinks I am reffering to Infinity Ward, the makers of Call of Duty 4, so you see you should trust his RPG advice because clearly he knows so much about them /sacasm

Anyways dosen't ME have not-so-amazing AI and absolutly lacks great scripted moments, great enemies and well placed (not scripted) situations?

The AI is pretty good for the most part. As far as the rest of the question.... are you kidding? This story is unmatched! And it wouldnt be, without villains that live up to their parts! It sounds like you really need to try out this game!

Yeah, I think I puked a little in my mouth when I read, "absolutly lacks great scripted moment" whoever told you that clearly has never played this game... It's a shame that such false information could've made it to your ears... whats more intriguing is that you believed it...

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Best combat for Mass trash. It got a 8.5 it is horrible
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Best combat for Mass trash. It got a 8.5 it is horrible Suliman-Uchia

please stop posting... it's not like anyone is taking you serious....

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[QUOTE="taker42"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"]

[QUOTE="bobaban"]Welll I'm just waitng till it comes for the PC. Which it will.Nikalai_88

enjoy your wait.... hey maybe Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect PC will release on the same day...!!! everyone wins....!!!

Hey I don't mind waiting, I have other great games to keep me busy

Keep in mind the horrible Halo 2 port though.

When do you think you guys will see The Witcher and Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer?

I don't even want The Witcher.

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[QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"]Best combat for Mass trash. It got a 8.5 it is horrible colmusterd28

please stop posting... it's not like anyone is taking you serious....

This is the same guy that posted the lame joke topic about Kane and Lynch. It wasn't funny,

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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]

[QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"]Best combat for Mass trash. It got a 8.5 it is horrible TMontana1004

please stop posting... it's not like anyone is taking you serious....

This is the same guy that posted the lame joke topic about Kane and Lynch. It wasn't funny,

yeah, nothing worse than an unfunny troll...

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Mass Effect has one of the worst combat systems I've ever played. All I need to do is use overkill and I can take out a tank with a freaking gun.
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joke thread?
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#40 colmusterd28
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Mass Effect has one of the worst combat systems I've ever played. All I need to do is use overkill and I can take out a tank with a freaking gun.Sparky04

Please... the combat is deep engaging and complete... the best part is that all classes and characters are equally awesome...

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Best combat for Mass trash. It got a 8.5 it is horrible Suliman-Uchia

Comming from the guy who siad Kanye and linch is the best game ever. (wich got a 6.0)

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[QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"]Best combat for Mass trash. It got a 8.5 it is horrible Marka1700

Comming from the guy who siad Kanye and linch is the best game ever. (wich got a 6.0)

Both of those games are trash compared to the Orange Box.

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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]Infinity Engine > MEHoobinator

Diverse dialogue system >>>>> overly done linear scripted sequences.

Diverse dialogue system>ME's dialogue system> "overly done" linear scripted cut scenes, btw what the hell does that mean?

What I meant was that Mass Effects whole game, dialogiue as well as the real time combat system is better than COD4 set piece gameplay, which is all it is. One set piece moment after the other i.e. scripted linear sequences. Also the computer AI is cheap, not so much intelligence as omniscience.

This post seriously made my brain hurt. I mean really. Infinity Engine games are what MADE Bioware + Black Isle great. They're the core of the history of Bioware and them being in the position they are for RPG's. And people still don't know what it is. :(
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Mass Effect is Game of the Year Hands down!Oh yeah Gamespot is falling off big time.
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Mass Effect is Game of the Year Hands down!Oh yeah Gamespot is falling off big time.
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Mass Effect = Game of the year

Amazing game