Mass Effect is going to be a huge dissapointment for a lot of people.

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#1 FinkAlmighty
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My friend picked it up at his local K-mart and I got a chance to check the game out. It has its strong points (The amazing storyline and character development), however there are blaring faults that will drag this game into the ground for a lot of players.

1. Textures take forever to load, for example you go into a conversation with a character and it can take upwards to 5 seconds for their blocky head to get "flesherized". Its creepy as hell. It also happens on planets noticably in the backgrounds and on characters, it happens more then in GOW.

2. Weapons and Armor look Supra Generic. When you get your first "Scorpion" or whatever its called armor set you're like, "Omg this is pretty steller". Then you finally realise after Scorpion armor set rank IIV, "Wow I'm stupid, this is just Scorpion armor set I but a different shade of crayola". The weapons all look the same (For example assault rifles of different makes look suspiciously similar) and when you recieve a new weapon/set of armor at the end of a mission or from exploring a planet it never really seems like that big of an accomplisment because its simply a damage increase. No individuality for you mister Shepard!

3. Remember how I told you about exploring a planet and not feeling any sort of accomplishment? Well another reason is because the majority of the planets seem tossed in without a whole lot of creative juice flowin. The vast majority of planets have no indiginous life forms and - Spoiler below-

SPOILERS Once you've duked it out with one Giant Sand worm it gets old. Srsly. SPOILERS

-they mostly are devoid of life and rife with the bounty of boring firearms.

4. And last but not least, the combat is clunky and your team-mates....well let me just say it seems as though inbreeding doesnt appear to only be an issue on earth.

But besides these and the blaring drops in frame rate lets talk about whats good.

-AMAZING STORYLINE

-FANTASTIC DIALOGUE

-SUPERB CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT

-OUTSTANDING MUSICAL SCORE

-SEXY GRAPHICS WHEN SHEPPARD ISNT THE BLOCK MONSTER FROM PLANET ATARIII 65

-ADEPTS ARE COOLIO AND BIOTICS ARE CRAZY FUN.

Okay, so final words, its a good game, not perfect and it can be frustrating as hell sometimes. I plan on buying it despite these flaws because of how superfantasticamazing the story is. Its around an 8.5.

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#2 jack_russel
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too long, didn't read. Mass Effect pwns.
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#3 StealthedRogue
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I hope this isnt true.
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#4 APOLLOCJD
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you dont review video games professionally, those cons are forgivable. i predict itll get a 9.

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#5 FinkAlmighty
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you dont review video games professionally, those cons are forgivable. i predict itll get a 9.

APOLLOCJD

Heh, maybe so but it doesnt make my points any less valid.

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#6 SpruceCaboose
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9.75 from Game Informer. Bioware.

I highly, highly doubt I'll be disappointed.

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#7 jack_russel
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[QUOTE="APOLLOCJD"]

you dont review video games professionally, those cons are forgivable. i predict itll get a 9.

FinkAlmighty

Heh, maybe so but it doesnt make my points any less valid.

yes.
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#8 TiberiusKane
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No doubt. People are expecting too much from the game and it would have to be better then perfect for some people to not be disappointed. As the hours tick down until I get my copy I hope I'm not one of those people and have set realistic expectations for it. I was hugely disappointed with Halo 3 when I first played it and I hope I have learnt from that lesson to not set my expectations too high.
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#9 wooooode
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With the score AC got I would have to say this gets a 10, but realistic I say 8.5.
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#10 Ilived
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- Weapons aren't a big part of the game just like Kotor. Kotor's weapons were very boring but people didn't care.

- Gameplay is fine, the usual suspect(teammate AI) isn't very good.

- Graphical pop-ins are very much obvious, but they are in other big games too(Crysis). Frankly if Halo 2 on Xbox didn't get score demoted because of it then this game won't either.

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Rather nitpicky, aren't we? Complaining because the assault rifles look the same? Maybe if the pistol looked identical to the assault rifle, it would be a point worth bringing up. And texture streaming? That's that critical to your enjoyment of the game? You yourself bring up that Mass Effect has a fantastic storyline, dialogue, music, characters, etc, and even graphics, and one of your "huge disappointment" cons is about slightly delayed texture streaming? Come on man, a little perspective.

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#13 NitaraPwnzU
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Gets a 9 easily on here.... If not then a 9.5!
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does faults wont stop it
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- Weapons aren't a big part of the game just like Kotor. Kotor's weapons were very boring but people didn't care.

- Gameplay is fine, the usual suspect(teammate AI) isn't very good.

- Graphical pop-ins are very much obvious, but they are in other big games too(Crysis). Frankly if Halo 2 on Xbox didn't get score demoted because of it then this game won't either.

Ilived

crysis does have a lot of pop-ins, but in a game with a draw distance of 16 km. I think thats kinda to be expected.

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op
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My friend picked it up at his local K-mart and I got a chance to check the game out. It has its strong points (The amazing storyline and character development), however there are blaring faults that will drag this game into the ground for a lot of players.

1. Textures take forever to load, for example you go into a conversation with a character and it can take upwards to 5 seconds for their blocky head to get "flesherized". Its creepy as hell. It also happens on planets noticably in the backgrounds and on characters, it happens more then in GOW.

2. Weapons and Armor look Supra Generic. When you get your first "Scorpion" or whatever its called armor set you're like, "Omg this is pretty steller". Then you finally realise after Scorpion armor set rank IIV, "Wow I'm stupid, this is just Scorpion armor set I but a different shade of crayola". The weapons all look the same (For example assault rifles of different makes look suspiciously similar) and when you recieve a new weapon/set of armor at the end of a mission or from exploring a planet it never really seems like that big of an accomplisment because its simply a damage increase. No individuality for you mister Shepard!

3. Remember how I told you about exploring a planet and not feeling any sort of accomplishment? Well another reason is because the majority of the planets seem tossed in without a whole lot of creative juice flowin. The vast majority of planets have no indiginous life forms and - Spoiler below-

SPOILERS Once you've duked it out with one Giant Sand worm it gets old. Srsly. SPOILERS

-they mostly are devoid of life and rife with the bounty of boring firearms.

4. And last but not least, the combat is clunky and your team-mates....well let me just say it seems as though inbreeding doesnt appear to only be an issue on earth.

But besides these and the blaring drops in frame rate lets talk about whats good.

-AMAZING STORYLINE

-FANTASTIC DIALOGUE

-SUPERB CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT

-OUTSTANDING MUSICAL SCORE

-SEXY GRAPHICS WHEN SHEPPARD ISNT THE BLOCK MONSTER FROM PLANET ATARIII 65

-ADEPTS ARE COOLIO AND BIOTICS ARE CRAZY FUN.

Okay, so final words, its a good game, not perfect and it can be frustrating as hell sometimes. I plan on buying it despite these flaws because of how superfantasticamazing the story is. Its around an 8.5.

FinkAlmighty

exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Gets a 9 easily on here.... If not then a 9.5!NitaraPwnzU
9.5 here its GS :wink:
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Texture pop-in is common with the combination of UE3 and a modded xbox 360. Caught you.
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#20 Torque1599
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Disreguard the butthurt fanboy sad that Mass Effect won't be on his beloved PS3
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i cant believe people will even respond to you properly when you begin with " my friend..."

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#22 TiberiusKane
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The pop-ins don't sound appealing but how is the frame rate? That is one area that might be a deal breaker for me. On the other hand, I was able to enjoy KOTOR on a graphics card that for whatever reason hated the game and refused to give me a stable frame rate. For me an RPG lives or dies by the interaction between your character and the game world. If it has lots of interesting NPCs and environments to explore I could overlook just about any flaw.
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opStealthedRogue

Don't think I didn't catch your post before the quick edit, duplicate account of the TC's. Should check your login next time.

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i have all 3 consoles, so no real dog in the fight here. This week i got both mario galaxy and mass effect(happy to get it early). These are two amazing games. But anyways mass effect is the topic. The only thing ill really agree with there is some texture pop in, the faces are pretty darn good, but some textures in the distance will change a bit while walking around.

First thing you do when you get the game is go to options and turn off the "cinematic visual" whatever option. makes it look like an old movie which is weird.

I gotta say so far the story, characters, and combat are pretty awesome. Nice mix of KOTOR and GEOW elements, but this is a RPG first.

My predicition is a 9-9.5, wont get a 10.

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#25 TiberiusKane
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Texture pop-in is common with the combination of UE3 and a modded xbox 360. Caught you.kevy619

That's interesting. I have been getting lots of texture pop-in with Gears of War ever since it got repaired. Maybe they put a modchip in it :shock:

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#26 kevy619
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The pop-ins don't sound appealing but how is the frame rate? That is one area that might be a deal breaker for me. On the other hand, I was able to enjoy KOTOR on a graphics card that for whatever reason hated the game and refused to give me a stable frame rate. For me an RPG lives or dies by the interaction between your character and the game world. If it has lots of interesting NPCs and environments to explore I could overlook just about any flaw. TiberiusKane

Pop-ins happen on modded xbox 360s when playing games using Unreal Engine 3. Notice how op is having the same issue with Gears of War? 100% busted.

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#27 Oscar-Wilde
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Those are pretty valid complaints, but i don't think the game will be bad, since it looks like the good far outweight the bad in this game by a huge margin.
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#28 kevy619
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[QUOTE="kevy619"]Texture pop-in is common with the combination of UE3 and a modded xbox 360. Caught you.TiberiusKane

That's interesting. I have been getting lots of texture pop-in with Gears of War ever since it got repaired. Maybe they put a modchip in it :shock:

That would have to do with your dvd-rom. Without saying too much, people dont use modchips in xbox 360s.

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#29 DHReese
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No offense, but when people with actual Gamercards with the game say its one of those games thats exceeds their expectations and has been one of the best games they've played, im more inclined to believe them...
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#30 Zeliard9
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Let's hear from legitimate people who have the game like Verge about these inconsequential texture pop-ins.
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#31 kevy619
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Let's hear from legitimate people who have the game like Verge about these inconsequential texture pop-ins. Zeliard9

some people do report this issue for other UE3 games, but its almost always because of a modded xbox 360. UE3 streams textures from the disc.

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I didn't notice any pop-in but it does have that lil stutter when loading another area, similar to Oblivion. Anyways, i just started cause i finally beat AC last night. What a big difference! I feel like im going to fall asleep playing this game. lol The only thing that amazes me so far are the facial animations. Hopefully it gets better :?

P.S. Anyone went into the gentleman's club & got a table dance? hahahaha Here's a line from one of the characters that caught me by surprise, "Secrets are like herpes, if you got'em, you wanna spread'em." :lol::lol:

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#33 Sim_genius
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Yeah I'm gonna wait for the review...
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#34 E M I N 3 M
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Yeah I'm gonna wait for the review...Sim_genius
It might turn out well in the reviews cause it's highly touted & i guess it lives upto the hype of what it is. It's just not my thing, thats all. I'll keep playing to give it a chance before i give up on it. If things don't pick up im gonna start playing Kane & Lynch
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#35 shaggyaz
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Im not saying your lying but unless u have some actual proof Im gonna have to believe the people that have the game with some proof and have said that its one of the greatest games ever made

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Im not saying your lying but unless u have some actual proof Im gonna have to believe the people that have the game with some proof and have said that its one of the greatest games ever made

shaggyaz
Who are you asking for proof? Me? Look @ my gamercard....I just stopped playing the game like 45min ago
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#37 HAZE-Unit
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I didn't play any RPG for over two years now, I don't wanna be dissapointed by this game, I have high hopes for it.

Someone else whoever played it, give us your impressions.

EDIT: I want to know how isthe gameplay? exploration? dialogue? story and music.

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#38 Ballroompirate
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too long, didn't read. Mass Effect pwns.jack_russel

Amen

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*I DONT BELIEVE YOU* :evil:
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#40 Pariah_001
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too long, didn't read. Mass Effect pwns.jack_russel

Have you even played it?

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You guys dont want to believe is more like it. Im not saying it's a terrible game. It was already like 12am when i started playing, im freaking tired & all im saying is it made me more tired. It started off with action & then went RPG on me. lol I just finished AC, so im in fast paced mode....that's why im going to give this game a shot either tomorrow or over the weekend when im awake. ;)

Im also going to check out Kane & Lynch tomorrow. Someone told me there were some bad reviews for it already? That suX!

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You guys dont want to believe is more like it. Im not saying it's a terrible game. It was already like 12am when i started playing, im freaking tired & all im saying is it made me more tired. It started off with action & then went RPG on me. lol I just finished AC, so im in fast paced mode....that's why im going to give this game a shot either tomorrow or over the weekend when im awake. ;)

Im also going to check out Kane & Lynch tomorrow. Someone told me there were some bad reviews for it already? That suX!

E M I N 3 M

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/kanelynchdeadmen/index.html?tag=result;title;0

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#43 reza
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if someone islooking for a shooter yes he will be disapointed, and its his own fault that he doesnt want to understand mass effect isnt shooter.

but if you are looking for a RPG, this is the best you can get.

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If it's anywhere near what Baldur's Gate 2 was, give me a call. Otherwise, please just continue sucking Bioware's nuts.
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#45 Supafly1
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KOTOR had actually the same problem. Weapons and armors looked way too similar.
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#46 RazorGR
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if someone islooking for a shooter yes he will be disapointed, and its his own fault that he doesnt want to understand mass effect isnt shooter.

but if you are looking for a RPG, this is the best you can get.

reza

There are better RPGs out there you know.

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#47 dhjohns
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too long, didn't read. Mass Effect pwns.jack_russel

Agreed. We have an official hater here.

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#48 dhjohns
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KOTOR had actually the same problem. Weapons and armors looked way too similar.Supafly1

That is incredible nitpicky. If that is the best you can do, this game will rule.

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#49 StealthSting
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If it's anywhere near what Baldur's Gate 2 was, give me a call. Otherwise, please just continue sucking Bioware's nuts.ShotGunBunny

That was a littleharsh :lol: ... Tho I can somewhat agree with the point...

The game has hadmy interest in its grasp ever since it was announced.I hope itstay's that way; wich it probably willregardless of any review or opinion out there untill I actually have it in my hands.

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#50 dhjohns
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[QUOTE="E M I N 3 M"]

You guys dont want to believe is more like it. Im not saying it's a terrible game. It was already like 12am when i started playing, im freaking tired & all im saying is it made me more tired. It started off with action & then went RPG on me. lol I just finished AC, so im in fast paced mode....that's why im going to give this game a shot either tomorrow or over the weekend when im awake. ;)

Im also going to check out Kane & Lynch tomorrow. Someone told me there were some bad reviews for it already? That suX!

sakura_Ex

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/kanelynchdeadmen/index.html?tag=result;title;0

I think the score on Kane and Lynch is too harsh. It is not AAA material, but it is not a 6. :evil: I would give it a 7.5 to 8. If you liked freedom fighters, you will like this game. I actually like the story and find the gun play to be fun.