Mass Effect should have got a 7.0

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#1 CytrusNatural
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--for its horrible A.I.--

if your looking down a hallway with enemys on the other side, i put the little arrow down the hallway to my team can go kill who ever is down there, but no. they dont for some unknown reason they cant move down a hallway, they dont say why they cant but they just dont move. :|

running though a level with a bunch of doors, they get stuck behind doors, the door wont open for them, so i have to go back and get them.

they hardly ever use thier special skills on enemys.

when shooting an enemy whos behind a box or a wall...thier leg/arm is basically poping out in view, and i can shoot thier leg/arm until they die, they dont even realise thier being shot and run away.

durring some boss fight or some special geth soldier, my team stands out in the open instead of taking cover.

--for its the devs lazyness of armor/weapon models--

theres about 2 differnt sniper gun models or assult gun models.

you have about 6+ differnt pistols/shotguns/assult rifles ect... thats the same weapon model but the only difference is the gun color. so for example you have a 60damage,100damage, 140damage, 166damage, 180 damage gun... and the only differnce is one is all red, one is all black, one has a red stripe, one has a blue stripe...but thier all the same gun model.

--and for the horrible data streaming--

you open your character skill screen and the textures are N64...10secondes later its the normal graphics. this happends with in game movies, when getting out of your vehicle, when moving to a new area, or room. it ruins the feeling of the game when textures look like nintendo64 for 10seconds and then finnaly the right textures load.

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#2 white45e
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have you played it ? no

are you wrong ? yes

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#3 Kaosed
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quick call the care brigade!

atleast play the game

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have you played it ? no

are you wrong ? yes

white45e

I actually agree.

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--for its horrible A.I.--

if your looking down a hallway with enemys on the other side, i put the little arrow down the hallway to my team can go kill who ever is down there, but no. they dont for some unknown reason they cant move down a hallway, they dont say why they cant but they just dont move. :|

running though a level with a bunch of doors, they get stuck behind doors, the door wont open for them, so i have to go back and get them.

they hardly ever use thier special skills on enemys.

when shooting an enemy whos behind a box or a wall...thier leg/arm is basically poping out in view, and i can shoot thier leg/arm until they die, they dont even realise thier being shot and run away.

durring some boss fight or some special geth soldier, my team stands out in the open instead of taking cover.

--for its the devs lazyness of armor/weapon models--

theres about 2 differnt sniper gun models or assult gun models.

you have about 6+ differnt pistols/shotguns/assult rifles ect... thats the same weapon model but the only difference is the gun color. so for example you have a 60damage,100damage, 140damage, 166damage, 180 damage gun... and the only differnce is one is all red, one is all black, one has a red stripe, one has a blue stripe...but thier all the same gun model.

--and for the horrible data streaming--

you open your character skill screen and the textures are N64...10secondes later its the normal graphics. this happends with in game movies, when getting out of your vehicle, when moving to a new area, or room. it ruins the feeling of the game when textures look like nintendo64 for 10seconds and then finnaly the right textures load.

CytrusNatural

you should get a 4.5 for a failed thread

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#6 cecx
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I see what you're saying, but you're nitpicking.
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Made a new account for this?

Tisk tisk.

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--for its horrible A.I.--

if your looking down a hallway with enemys on the other side, i put the little arrow down the hallway to my team can go kill who ever is down there, but no. they dont for some unknown reason they cant move down a hallway, they dont say why they cant but they just dont move. :|

running though a level with a bunch of doors, they get stuck behind doors, the door wont open for them, so i have to go back and get them.

they hardly ever use thier special skills on enemys.

when shooting an enemy whos behind a box or a wall...thier leg/arm is basically poping out in view, and i can shoot thier leg/arm until they die, they dont even realise thier being shot and run away.

durring some boss fight or some special geth soldier, my team stands out in the open instead of taking cover.

--for its the devs lazyness of armor/weapon models--

theres about 2 differnt sniper gun models or assult gun models.

you have about 6+ differnt pistols/shotguns/assult rifles ect... thats the same weapon model but the only difference is the gun color. so for example you have a 60damage,100damage, 140damage, 166damage, 180 damage gun... and the only differnce is one is all red, one is all black, one has a red stripe, one has a blue stripe...but thier all the same gun model.

--and for the horrible data streaming--

you open your character skill screen and the textures are N64...10secondes later its the normal graphics. this happends with in game movies, when getting out of your vehicle, when moving to a new area, or room. it ruins the feeling of the game when textures look like nintendo64 for 10seconds and then finnaly the right textures load.

CytrusNatural


As for AI, that's definitely enough to knock down the points it earned from being a revolutionary, massive, freeroaming rpg with tons of options (and I HAVE played it). Besides, since when are rpgs supposed to have good AI? Sure, it's fine that Oblivion and FF12 had no AI but since Mass Effect doesn't it should get knocked down to a 7.

:| You have to turn it on for them to use their techniques, or you can just have them use them yourself. Play the game.

Oh, darn. *rolls eyes*. Similar weapon and armor models. Well that just breaks the game right there. You know, because that's definitely a serious issue.

The texture argument has been done to death with Halo 2. If it bothers you that much go play in the REAL world.

And even as I'm writing this I know that this guy is a level 1 and this topic is just flamebait, but I have too much fun arguing anyways :D
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--for its horrible A.I.--

if your looking down a hallway with enemys on the other side, i put the little arrow down the hallway to my team can go kill who ever is down there, but no. they dont for some unknown reason they cant move down a hallway, they dont say why they cant but they just dont move. :|

running though a level with a bunch of doors, they get stuck behind doors, the door wont open for them, so i have to go back and get them.

they hardly ever use thier special skills on enemys.

when shooting an enemy whos behind a box or a wall...thier leg/arm is basically poping out in view, and i can shoot thier leg/arm until they die, they dont even realise thier being shot and run away.

durring some boss fight or some special geth soldier, my team stands out in the open instead of taking cover.

--for its the devs lazyness of armor/weapon models--

theres about 2 differnt sniper gun models or assult gun models.

you have about 6+ differnt pistols/shotguns/assult rifles ect... thats the same weapon model but the only difference is the gun color. so for example you have a 60damage,100damage, 140damage, 166damage, 180 damage gun... and the only differnce is one is all red, one is all black, one has a red stripe, one has a blue stripe...but thier all the same gun model.

--and for the horrible data streaming--

you open your character skill screen and the textures are N64...10secondes later its the normal graphics. this happends with in game movies, when getting out of your vehicle, when moving to a new area, or room. it ruins the feeling of the game when textures look like nintendo64 for 10seconds and then finnaly the right textures load.

CytrusNatural

Yeah, I don't care what the gun looks like, for one, just what it does to the other guy.

PS: No...just no man. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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#11 KingOfKonging
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Lol, who would go through the effort to create a new account just to post this?!?!

Someone with entirely too much time on his hands.

Kind of sad.

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#12 Cubs360
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Coming from a LVL 1 with 1 post, Hmm, I wonder if this guy wants to make the 360 look bad?

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#13 KingOfKonging
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I wonder if this guy will list his Tag?

Hmm, probaby not.

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#14 CytrusNatural
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wow like 90% of the replys are calling me a lier. does it hurt that bad when someone brings up the bad parts of mass effect?
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#15 white45e
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wow like 90% of the replys are calling me a lier. does it hurt that bad when someone brings up the bad parts of mass effect?CytrusNatural

whats your gamertag ill send you a freinds request

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#16 Kaosed
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wow like 90% of the replys are calling me a lier. does it hurt that bad when someone brings up the bad parts of mass effect?CytrusNatural

maybe your post would be more credible if your account wouldnt been made some minutes ago and have more than 3 posts?

cows are so pathetic

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#17 DaysAirlines
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A 7.0 why not lower?
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I think the A.I is a bit of a game breaker. I'm a Sentinel (so I don't know if that counts or not), but damn would my squad just die in freak accidents because they're incredibly retarded. And you can guess what circle of Hell I went through facing Benezia at Noveria :evil:
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Yeah, the AI could use some work but you can override them by giving them commands with the D-pad. I found it best to always move them behind something and they'll stay put and take cover. Also, unless you gave the option at the beginning before starting a new game, that the AI can use powers themselves, then you have to issue the commandsyourself.

Mass Effect is definitely not a perfect game but the reason we're very forgiving is because of its scope. However, we wont be as forgiving towards BioWare if the same flaws are found in Mass Effect 2.

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#20 KingOfKonging
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wow like 90% of the replys are calling me a lier. does it hurt that bad when someone brings up the bad parts of mass effect?CytrusNatural

What's your tag?

Just curious, that's all.

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#21 CytrusNatural
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[QUOTE="CytrusNatural"]wow like 90% of the replys are calling me a lier. does it hurt that bad when someone brings up the bad parts of mass effect?KingOfKonging

What's your tag?

Just curious, that's all.

s0belizard

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I think the A.I is a bit of a game breaker. I'm a Sentinel (so I don't know if that counts or not), but damn would my squad just die in freak accidents because they're incredibly retarded. And you can guess what circle of Hell I went through facing Benezia at Noveria :evil:FrozenLiquid

I think it would've been best if you played as a Vanguard. I heard being a Sentinel is a bit broken. However, if you're a sentinel then you must have squad members that are soldiers or something more aggressive, since you'll be the one with Electronics and biotic powers. I think the best squad mates to have as a Sentinel are: Ashley and Wrex...Dont play with Kaiden since he too is a sentinel, or Tali.

EDIT: Also, dont forget to equip them with better armor and weapons often. Also, remember that weapons and ammo upgrades are essential and not a gimmick. When you play against Geth or other Synthetics, use "Tungsten rounds"...You can kill them VERY easily...Same with "Shredder rounds" for Flesh creatures.

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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]I think the A.I is a bit of a game breaker. I'm a Sentinel (so I don't know if that counts or not), but damn would my squad just die in freak accidents because they're incredibly retarded. And you can guess what circle of Hell I went through facing Benezia at Noveria :evil:kankthetank

I think it would've been best if you played as a Vanguard. I heard being a Sentinel is a bit broken. However, if you're a sentinel then you must have squad members that are soldiers or something more aggressive, since you'll be the one with Electronics and biotic powers. I think the best squad mates to have as a Sentinel are: Ashley and Wrex...Dont play with Kaiden since he too is a sentinel, or Tali.

I'm guessing being a straight up soldier is probably the easiest?
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#24 NAPK1NS
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I think that would be far too low. However, I really dislike the game so far. Nothing is really snagging the way I wanted it to. :(

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#25 kankthetank
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[QUOTE="kankthetank"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]I think the A.I is a bit of a game breaker. I'm a Sentinel (so I don't know if that counts or not), but damn would my squad just die in freak accidents because they're incredibly retarded. And you can guess what circle of Hell I went through facing Benezia at Noveria :evil:FrozenLiquid

I think it would've been best if you played as a Vanguard. I heard being a Sentinel is a bit broken. However, if you're a sentinel then you must have squad members that are soldiers or something more aggressive, since you'll be the one with Electronics and biotic powers. I think the best squad mates to have as a Sentinel are: Ashley and Wrex...Dont play with Kaiden since he too is a sentinel, or Tali.

I'm guessing being a straight up soldier is probably the easiest?

I edited my post and added this to help you better:

"Also, dont forget to equip them with better armor and weapons often. Also, remember that weapons and ammo upgrades are essential and not a gimmick. When you play against Geth or other Synthetics, use "Tungsten rounds"...You can kill them VERY easily...Same with "Shredder rounds" for Flesh creatures".

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[QUOTE="KingOfKonging"]

[QUOTE="CytrusNatural"]wow like 90% of the replys are calling me a lier. does it hurt that bad when someone brings up the bad parts of mass effect?CytrusNatural

What's your tag?

Just curious, that's all.

s0belizard

Oh, welcome back. So you're the guy whose last anti 360 trolling account got banned after one post.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26049601

Better luck this time, I guess.

Your IP must have been banned lots and lots of time to get that kind of insta-ban.

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#27 ss_49
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...and it begins.

All the Cows will be bashing the crap out of ME now that it's a confirmed 360 exclusive

:lol: Pathetic.

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#28 CytrusNatural
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[QUOTE="CytrusNatural"][QUOTE="KingOfKonging"]

[QUOTE="CytrusNatural"]wow like 90% of the replys are calling me a lier. does it hurt that bad when someone brings up the bad parts of mass effect?KingOfKonging

What's your tag?

Just curious, that's all.

s0belizard

Oh, welcome back. So you're the guy whose last anti 360 trolling account got banned after one post.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26049601

Better luck this time, I guess.

Your IP must have been banned lots and lots of time to get that kind of insta-ban.

can someone link this?

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee230/damianrh/monkey01ie8.jpg

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#29 CytrusNatural
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...and it begins.

All the Cows will be bashing the crap out of ME now that it's a confirmed 360 exclusive

:lol: Pathetic.

ss_49

pathetic is where lemmings think 100% of world must love mass effect

that its the perfect game rofl

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A 7.0 why not lower?DaysAirlines

I say 5.0. One extra point because the topography of Earth's moon was not reproduced accurately and another point because the ladies in Chora's Den were clothed.

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[QUOTE="KingOfKonging"][QUOTE="CytrusNatural"][QUOTE="KingOfKonging"]

[QUOTE="CytrusNatural"]wow like 90% of the replys are calling me a lier. does it hurt that bad when someone brings up the bad parts of mass effect?CytrusNatural

What's your tag?

Just curious, that's all.

s0belizard

Oh, welcome back. So you're the guy whose last anti 360 trolling account got banned after one post.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26049601

Better luck this time, I guess.

Your IP must have been banned lots and lots of time to get that kind of insta-ban.

can someone link this?

no

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#32 100Gamer
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...and it begins.

All the Cows will be bashing the crap out of ME now that it's a confirmed 360 exclusive

:lol: Pathetic.

ss_49

cows bash NG2 for the same reason. how sad

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#33 mynameisdumb
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]A 7.0 why not lower?aliasfreak

I say 5.0. One extra point because the topography of Earth's moon was not reproduced accurately and another point because the ladies in Chora's Den were clothed.



haha you win!
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#34 Taz-Bone
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Made a new account for this?

Tisk tisk.

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#35 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="kankthetank"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]I think the A.I is a bit of a game breaker. I'm a Sentinel (so I don't know if that counts or not), but damn would my squad just die in freak accidents because they're incredibly retarded. And you can guess what circle of Hell I went through facing Benezia at Noveria :evil:kankthetank

I think it would've been best if you played as a Vanguard. I heard being a Sentinel is a bit broken. However, if you're a sentinel then you must have squad members that are soldiers or something more aggressive, since you'll be the one with Electronics and biotic powers. I think the best squad mates to have as a Sentinel are: Ashley and Wrex...Dont play with Kaiden since he too is a sentinel, or Tali.

I'm guessing being a straight up soldier is probably the easiest?

I edited my post and added this to help you better:

"Also, dont forget to equip them with better armor and weapons often. Also, remember that weapons and ammo upgrades are essential and not a gimmick. When you play against Geth or other Synthetics, use "Tungsten rounds"...You can kill them VERY easily...Same with "Shredder rounds" for Flesh creatures".

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="kankthetank"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]I think the A.I is a bit of a game breaker. I'm a Sentinel (so I don't know if that counts or not), but damn would my squad just die in freak accidents because they're incredibly retarded. And you can guess what circle of Hell I went through facing Benezia at Noveria :evil:kankthetank

I think it would've been best if you played as a Vanguard. I heard being a Sentinel is a bit broken. However, if you're a sentinel then you must have squad members that are soldiers or something more aggressive, since you'll be the one with Electronics and biotic powers. I think the best squad mates to have as a Sentinel are: Ashley and Wrex...Dont play with Kaiden since he too is a sentinel, or Tali.

I'm guessing being a straight up soldier is probably the easiest?

I edited my post and added this to help you better:

"Also, dont forget to equip them with better armor and weapons often. Also, remember that weapons and ammo upgrades are essential and not a gimmick. When you play against Geth or other Synthetics, use "Tungsten rounds"...You can kill them VERY easily...Same with "Shredder rounds" for Flesh creatures".

Yeah I play this a lot more like an RPG that they're letting me lol. Constantly pausing, modifiying weapons, and using the biotic pause. Only time I trip is when the game requires reflex rather than the RPG skillset.
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yes, it flopped. i think it flopped enough. if it flopped any harder than it did, i think the lemming suicides would have been as bad as the sheep TP suicides.

i really suspect this was another game whose review was "influenced" by the marketing division here at gamespot.

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#37 leviathan91
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I see what you're saying, but you're nitpicking. cecx

Even though I haven't played the game, how is saying the enemy A.I. is bad is nitpicking? It's part of the gameplay and what makes it fun and challenging.

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#38 ss_49
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[QUOTE="ss_49"]

...and it begins.

All the Cows will be bashing the crap out of ME now that it's a confirmed 360 exclusive

:lol: Pathetic.

CytrusNatural

pathetic is where lemmings think 100% of world must love mass effect

that its the perfect game rofl

LOL just GTFO Cow :)

You've been outed as a Fakeboy.

You've never played Mass Effect.

The fact that you made a new account in an attempt to discredit a damn video game...proves your immaturity, cowardice, and idiocy.That's pathetic.

You have been OUTED.

Now GTFO before you give Cows an even worse name.

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#39 5starsteve
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[QUOTE="ss_49"]

...and it begins.

All the Cows will be bashing the crap out of ME now that it's a confirmed 360 exclusive

:lol: Pathetic.

100Gamer

cows bash NG2 for the same reason. how sad

i own a ps3 and neither of these games appeal to me.compaired to ps3 exclusive list these games are weak

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#40 Norg
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Iam very early on in the game and i love it its glitchy at times but the experince is like none other i played
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#41 ss_49
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[QUOTE="100Gamer"][QUOTE="ss_49"]

...and it begins.

All the Cows will be bashing the crap out of ME now that it's a confirmed 360 exclusive

:lol: Pathetic.

5starsteve

cows bash NG2 for the same reason. how sad

i own a ps3 and neither of these games appeal to me.compaired to ps3 exclusive list these games are weak

Yes and there's nothing wrong with that :). Everybody has opinions.

However, going so far as to create a fakeboy account to post useless slander for the sole purpose of hurting a game's image...:?

The TC should be hung. I doubt even his fellow Cows would protest :)

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[QUOTE="5starsteve"][QUOTE="100Gamer"][QUOTE="ss_49"]

...and it begins.

All the Cows will be bashing the crap out of ME now that it's a confirmed 360 exclusive

:lol: Pathetic.

ss_49

cows bash NG2 for the same reason. how sad

i own a ps3 and neither of these games appeal to me.compaired to ps3 exclusive list these games are weak

Yes and there's nothing wrong with that :). Everybody has opinions.

However, going so far as to create a fakeboy account to post useless slander for the sole purpose of hurting a game's image...:?

The TC should be hung. I doubt even his fellow Cows would protest :)

I agree 7 is too low for a very solid game like me.but TC is probably counter acting the many lems that grossly over rate this game

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#43 ss_49
Member since 2007 • 1337 Posts
[QUOTE="ss_49"][QUOTE="5starsteve"][QUOTE="100Gamer"][QUOTE="ss_49"]

...and it begins.

All the Cows will be bashing the crap out of ME now that it's a confirmed 360 exclusive

:lol: Pathetic.

5starsteve

cows bash NG2 for the same reason. how sad

i own a ps3 and neither of these games appeal to me.compaired to ps3 exclusive list these games are weak

Yes and there's nothing wrong with that :). Everybody has opinions.

However, going so far as to create a fakeboy account to post useless slander for the sole purpose of hurting a game's image...:?

The TC should be hung. I doubt even his fellow Cows would protest :)

I agree 7 is too low for a very solid game like me.but TC is probably counter acting the many lems that grossly over rate this game

If I think it deserved a 9.0 would I be wrong? It's 9.2 @ Gamerankings...

Whether or not it's over-rated is your opinion...and I'm sorry but if you haven't played it your opinion is a lot less valid than the lems that have.

Also, I honestly haven't seen any Lemmings make new accounts to praise MassEffect...