Mass Effect WONT FLOP...KILLZONE MIGHT!!!

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#1 darrowby88
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i dont understand all of these threads abut mass effect flopping, Halo 3 flopping, etc.

both Bioware and Bungie are top notch developers with an almost perfect track record.  What the heck makes people think that ME and Halo will flop???

Killzone, on the other hand, is a Halo killer, and will be the most beautiful looking and playing game ever made?...come on sony fanboys, how can ya'll say that ME and Halo will flop when they have amazing dev teams, but Killzone will be unbeatable when guerilla games has a less than stellar track record?

now i'm not saying killzone will flop or that halo and mass effect will get 10s, but if history is any judge, both those things are quite likel to happen. 

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#2 darrowby88
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any cows care to dispute?
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#3 lafigueroa
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If Twilight Princess can Flop, So Can Halo 3 or Mass Effect

 

And I'm a Lemming.

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#4 Khansoul
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any cows care to dispute?darrowby88

Why dispute someones opinion? it's not like you know what you're talking about. 

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#5 DaysAirlines
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Dude, Xbox games will flop in general. Killzone 2 will be the greatest FPS of all time even if it scores a 2.0 here.
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#6 uforaverwill
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If Twilight Princess can Flop, So Can Halo 3 or Mass Effect

 

And I'm a Lemming.

lafigueroa

 

Agree 

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#7 Paddy345
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Well if you take it serious then you thats just idotic, of course mass effect won't flop and killzone 2 won't flop, but lets not forget killzone 2 is not that big of a deal to ps3 fans compared to mgs4 and ff
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#8 uforaverwill
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any cows care to dispute?darrowby88

 

Someone needs special attention 

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Dude, Xbox games will flop in general. Killzone 2 will be the greatest FPS of all time even if it scores a 2.0 here.DaysAirlines

your sarcasm gets old, srry

but its probly true, cows will call it a halo killer no matter what it gets 

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#10 darrowby88
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Dude, Xbox games will flop in general. Killzone 2 will be the greatest FPS of all time even if it scores a 2.0 here.hockeyruler12

your sarcasm gets old, srry

but its probly true, cows will call it a halo killer no matter what it gets

yep...very true
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[QUOTE="darrowby88"]any cows care to dispute?uforaverwill

 

Someone needs special attention

 

I lol'd :lol: 

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#12 deron2
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[QUOTE="darrowby88"]any cows care to dispute?uforaverwill

 

Someone needs special attention 

im a lemming but i think the only reason killzone flopped was due to the limited hardware the ps2 had....
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#13 audioaxes
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killzone "might" flop? more like WILL flop

im still undecided on mass effect because i havent heard enough about its gameplay which is what matters most 

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#14 south411
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[QUOTE="darrowby88"]any cows care to dispute?Khansoul

Why dispute someones opinion? it's not like you know what you're talking about. 

for some reason, i laughed nonstop for 2 min after reading that
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i dont understand all of these threads abut mass effect flopping, Halo 3 flopping, etc.

both Bioware and Bungie are top notch developers with an almost perfect track record. What the heck makes people think that ME and Halo will flop???

Killzone, on the other hand, is a Halo killer, and will be the most beautiful looking and playing game ever made?...come on sony fanboys, how can ya'll say that ME and Halo will flop when they have amazing dev teams, but Killzone will be unbeatable when guerilla games has a less than stellar track record?

now i'm not saying killzone will flop or that halo and mass effect will get 10s, but if history is any judge, both those things are quite likel to happen.

darrowby88
Mass Effect will not flop. I think Killzone could land anywhere. Halo might. It looks like hell currently.
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Jade empire flop, mass effect might follow.
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#17 Liquid_47
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[QUOTE="darrowby88"]

i dont understand all of these threads abut mass effect flopping, Halo 3 flopping, etc.

both Bioware and Bungie are top notch developers with an almost perfect track record. What the heck makes people think that ME and Halo will flop???

Killzone, on the other hand, is a Halo killer, and will be the most beautiful looking and playing game ever made?...come on sony fanboys, how can ya'll say that ME and Halo will flop when they have amazing dev teams, but Killzone will be unbeatable when guerilla games has a less than stellar track record?

now i'm not saying killzone will flop or that halo and mass effect will get 10s, but if history is any judge, both those things are quite likel to happen.

Redfingers
Mass Effect will not flop. I think Killzone could land anywhere. Halo might. It looks like hell currently.

Currently = many months ago now? Dude, read the Bungie Weekly Updates. Once they get the actual single player demos going (not beta, I have a feeling they're not going to do it for beta), they're gonna own us to hell and back. Even the fans. Something's just not right about them hiding everything, whilst Frank keeps wetting his pants.
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#18 Bansheesdie
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If Twilight Princess can Flop, So Can Halo 3 or Mass Effect

 

And I'm a Lemming.

lafigueroa
I don't think so because the reason that TP flopped was because it didn't have enough new things, it was basically OoT with new characters, graphics, and locals. Mass Effect isn't KOTOR, and Halo 3 isn't Halo 2.
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Twilight Princess
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any cows care to dispute?darrowby88
I don't think anyone really cares, but go ahead, keep bumping your thread without any real substance. Blanket statements on either end of the spectrum are a terrible thing.
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#21 PaintballinDude
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killzone "might" flop? more like WILL flop

im still undecided on mass effect because i havent heard enough about its gameplay which is what matters most 

audioaxes
How can you be sure that killzone will flop. Less has been realeased on killzone than mass effect. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#22 pundog
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I think Halo 3 has the potential to flop, but considering the worst game Bioware has ever made, Jade Empire, scored an 8.3 (or something around there), is still a great RPG and was mostly a learning experience (since it was Biowares first IP) I don't see Mass Effect flopping. Go watch the X06 demo, the game looks like KOTOR with real time fighting, more depth and the greatest speech engine I've ever seen. I can't see that adding up to less than AAA.

And for Killzone 2, would it have to score less than 6.9 to flop?

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#23 lafigueroa
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[QUOTE="lafigueroa"]

If Twilight Princess can Flop, So Can Halo 3 or Mass Effect

 

And I'm a Lemming.

Bansheesdie
I don't think so because the reason that TP flopped was because it didn't have enough new things, it was basically OoT with new characters, graphics, and locals. Mass Effect isn't KOTOR, and Halo 3 isn't Halo 2.

I'm just saying, it's possible for anything to go bad.
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#24 Mordred19
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Hi, cow here. I would just like to say that Killzone is unlikely to flop at this point. They made some mistakes with the first one; Guerilla didn't deliver as much as promised on the puny PS2. But things are different now. Sony bought Guerilla, took them under its first-party wing because they had confidence in the developers and saw potential. So they have given them over 20 million dollars in development funds, and they have first-party access to the Cell dev programs. Guerilla is aware of the public feedback over the first killzone, so they know where to improve and what to change. This time, on the PS3, they can do things on the gameplay scale that they wanted to do in the past. Granted, lots of cash and support doesn't automatically make a winner. Gears of War was third party and had only ten million bucks to work with. but I just think it's very likely that Killzone 2 will be really good, given the present state of affairs. Also, the media called first game a "Halo killer", not Guerilla or anyone official. One more thing, what consitutes as a "flop" anyway? If it doesn't get at least a 9? Any scores are up for debate because people have different attitudes, opinions, and viewpoints. I think "flop" is starting to lose its meaning, just like the word "overrated".
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#25 oback
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If Twilight Princess can Flop, So Can Halo 3 or Mass Effect

And I'm a Lemming.

lafigueroa
this is true
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#26 UndyingVayne
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Killzone 2 has a bazillion times more chance to flop than  mass effect, you only have to play killzone 1 to know that.
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#27 Mordred19
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was killzone 1 REALLY that bad? I played it many times and it was okay. What is your opinion? Don't reiterate the Gamespot score, judge it for yourself.

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#28 caje47
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Actually, Bungie's average game score is 8.525.
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#29 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="Bansheesdie"][QUOTE="lafigueroa"]

If Twilight Princess can Flop, So Can Halo 3 or Mass Effect

 

And I'm a Lemming.

lafigueroa

I don't think so because the reason that TP flopped was because it didn't have enough new things, it was basically OoT with new characters, graphics, and locals.
Mass Effect isn't KOTOR, and Halo 3 isn't Halo 2.


I'm just saying, it's possible for anything to go bad.

Snake Eater, maybe? >_>
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i like u:P
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#31 MgunHunter
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I've never played Killzone 1, but I have played the PSP version of Killzone: Liberations. Liberations was a very well designed game that worked perfectly on the PSP, and showed that the devs had some talent. I don't know how Killzone 2 will be, but after playing Killzone: Liberations I think we'll be pleasantly surprised.
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#32 tommy12321
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Even if mass effect and halo 3 don't flop, they'll just be overrated.
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#33 OhhSnap50893
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Then how do you explain FFXI? Or Twilight Princess (still a great game, but didn't reach hype)?
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#34 Dreams-Visions
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I agree with the TC. Guerilla and the KillZone franchise have much to prove. Bungie and Bioware have absolutely nothing to prove to anyone anymore. Guerilla doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence until they get some quality games under their belt.
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#35 E_x_i_l_e
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I'm a cow, but I don't refer to it as a Halo killer. The first game had a lot of potential, some technical problems hurt it, Liberation was a great game IMO, and now Guerilla is working with Sony as a first party developer now, there's a high chance that Killzone will be amazing. Most 1st party games from Sony are :) it won't kill Halo in sales, guaranteed, but when it comes down to the overall game, we'll just have to wait and see.
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heard the same thing about jade empire.
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#37 Dreams-Visions
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I've never played Killzone 1, but I have played the PSP version of Killzone: Liberations. Liberations was a very well designed game that worked perfectly on the PSP, and showed that the devs had some talent. I don't know how Killzone 2 will be, but after playing Killzone: Liberations I think we'll be pleasantly surprised.MgunHunter
I was underwhelmed with Liberation, but what ever. I dont' think that Liberation should be considered an example of what's to come for KZ2.
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i dont understand all of these threads abut mass effect flopping, Halo 3 flopping, etc.

both Bioware and Bungie are top notch developers with an almost perfect track record. What the heck makes people think that ME and Halo will flop???

Killzone, on the other hand, is a Halo killer, and will be the most beautiful looking and playing game ever made?...come on sony fanboys, how can ya'll say that ME and Halo will flop when they have amazing dev teams, but Killzone will be unbeatable when guerilla games has a less than stellar track record?

now i'm not saying killzone will flop or that halo and mass effect will get 10s, but if history is any judge, both those things are quite likel to happen.

darrowby88
:::::slow clapping::::: Mass Effect won't flop and Killzone might flop. Wow. Really going out on a limb are we? :roll:
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[QUOTE="lafigueroa"]

If Twilight Princess can Flop, So Can Halo 3 or Mass Effect

And I'm a Lemming.

Bansheesdie
I don't think so because the reason that TP flopped was because it didn't have enough new things, it was basically OoT with new characters, graphics, and locals. Mass Effect isn't KOTOR, and Halo 3 isn't Halo 2.

Mass effect has just big enough chance of flopping as any other game including killzone and halo. Halo 3 isn't Halo 2 even though it made by the same people and has get to reveal bringing anything new to the table besides a graphical upgrade. If you say TP failed because of nothing new brought to the table then makes yout hink Halo 3 will be great. The only thing that saved Halo 2 was the outstanding online play.
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#40 Dm1uciano
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Killzone is the worst shooter I've ever played.

I don't know why people would give them money to make a sequal.

Halo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Golden Eye >>>>> Killzone

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#41 MorisUkunRasik
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Killzone is the worst shooter I've ever played.

I don't know why people would give me money to make a sequal.

Half-life 2>>>>>>Halo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Golden Eye >>>>> Killzone

Dm1uciano
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#42 PaintballinDude
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[QUOTE="Dm1uciano"]

Killzone is the worst shooter I've ever played.

I don't know why people would give me money to make a sequal.

Half-life 2>>>>>>Halo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Golden Eye >>>>> Killzone

MorisUkunRasik

Goldeneye takes a dump on any FPS shooter game from the heavens. It was that good.
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#43 ninjiijitsu
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heard the same thing about jade empire.CaseyWegner


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#44 Blackbond
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was killzone 1 REALLY that bad? I played it many times and it was okay. What is your opinion? Don't reiterate the Gamespot score, judge it for yourself.

Mordred19

Well the Gamespot score determines if it flops or not. Our opinion sadly doesn't matter in system wars lol. 

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#45 SOedipus
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[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="Dm1uciano"]

Killzone is the worst shooter I've ever played.

I don't know why people would give me money to make a sequal.

Half-life 2>>>>>>Halo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Golden Eye >>>>> Killzone

PaintballinDude

Goldeneye takes a dump on any FPS shooter game from the heavens. It was that good.

i agree
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Perfect Dark owned the hell out of Goldeneye. Bunch more weapons, alternate uses for those weapons and most importantly, AI Bots so you could play with one other person and not get bored after 5 minutes.
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i hope they all succeed in being the best game the developers can make
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#48 Blackbond
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Perfect Dark owned the hell out of Goldeneye. Bunch more weapons, alternate uses for those weapons and most importantly, AI Bots so you could play with one other person and not get bored after 5 minutes.TheManOfChoice

Perfect Dark > Golden Eye

I approve this post. Perfect Dark was everything Golden Eye was but expanded and improved. So many people didn't give Perfect Dark a chance and don't even realize that its the spiritual sequel to Golden Eye. I can't stand when people praise Golden Eye not knowing about Perfect Dark its one of the blindest examples of Fanboyism next to people who say FF7 is the best Final Fantasy having never played any previous game before 7. 

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i hope they all succeed in being the best game the developers can makedanneswegman

That's not how this place works as you should know. You must pick a side.

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[QUOTE="TheManOfChoice"]Perfect Dark owned the hell out of Goldeneye. Bunch more weapons, alternate uses for those weapons and most importantly, AI Bots so you could play with one other person and not get bored after 5 minutes.Blackbond

Perfect Dark > Golden Eye

I approve this post. Perfect Dark was everything Golden Eye was but expanded and improved. So many people didn't give Perfect Dark a chance and don't even realize that its the spiritual sequel to Golden Eye. I can't stand when people praise Golden Eye not knowing about Perfect Dark its one of the blindest examples of Fanboyism next to people who say FF7 is the best Final Fantasy having never played any previous game before 7. 

What can you say, those FF fans love their Sephiroth.