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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Is that in ME1? Cause I haven't played it.. Yes I do. Uncharted for example is in a whole different league. Yes they do. Both genders of Shepard for example sound really monotonous. I didn't mean robotic with alot of cyber effects to the voice. Just monotonous and lame.themajormayor

ME2.....It's in ME2. And if you want to talk about motion depth in ME1 look up the I remember me mission in ME1. And again your confusing body language with voice acting. Uncharated has great body language with their character while ME character need that to be improved. The voice acting is still fantastic for ME. I would say ME and UC voice acting is equal. UC just has the better body language. As for Shepard, they have to be closer to Monotone. It's because it an rpg where the player has control of the main characters character growth. Putting a distinct characteristic in the main character in a roleplaging game kills player controlled character development and character role playing.

I remember vaguely. He was like a general or judge or something. Ehm no I am not talking about animation. The voice acting is still superior. But I guess you have a point with not putting a distinct charcteristic in a RPG on the player controlled character. Mass Effect 2 though isn't really an RPG though.

ME2 is an rpg. It just doesn't have or need all the rpg elements. Why have an inventory system in a game for a games series that has nothing to inventory. Also, rpg's are then just stats, there also character roleplaying as well, which you have in ME2. Stats and inventory is the most important part of a rpg. Also, how the combat plays does not matter ether as long as it's balanced and flexible with how you build your character...2 things ME1 is horrible at.

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#154 DarkLink77
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Never in my life have I seen a game so poorly put together and so far below the standard be so loved. AAllxxjjnn
That's pretty much the definition of this generation.
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#155 dreman999
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]No the series is pretty awful. It is polished mediocrity.

nhh18

oH, RIGHT YOU...You have yet awnsered this...

[QUOTE="nhh18"]

Jack: A psychotic borderline character who had a tough past. Ashley: A sanctimonious catty person who hates jack for being the total opposite of her and believes in their mission. Jacob: Random black character with zero personality, just says stuff. a scientist genius who does nothing but speaks random scientist terms that meaning nothing.

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1. Jack is an example of a person grow up in incredibly tough environment and had to learn to depend on themselves and find ways to survive. Jack, who was a child who lived on the street, had to learn to find ways to survive by avoiding conflict.Everything Jack does as a character is about avoiding conflict as much as possible and being aggressive enough to survive. The tattoos, and the attitude is was way to turn off people because deep down she fears any sort of Pain, which is the reason way she lives in the darkest hold on the normady with the least traffic of people. The tattoos also act like quills as well being that Jack is small....Very small. She the smallest character in ME1 AND 2 combined. The tattoos's make her look tougher so people avoid her. Works well with violent thugs. Jack's fear of pain is also made clear when she explains why she doesn't want to romance Shepard.....She doesn't want to feel horrible if it ends horribly is some way, being that the mission is a suicide mission....Jack is very deep.

2.Ashley is a character who is trying to undo the shame of her families past by diving in a military that does not want her. This gives her a drive to try to excel as much as possible. She acts tough so she can deal with the shame and the negative feed back from her superiors..And if you did romance her, you would know she is way softer then she appears.... She courts you...with poems.

3.Jacob is character who doesn't want to tell you about himself. He doesn't want to think of his past at all. You see this with him body language when he tells you about his father. Also, when you try to talk about his and Miranda's romantic past... He literary curses you out and turns his back on you if you do. And if your romancing him and try to for your way to try and help him, he ends the romance. Though alternative he is also very supportive, and give a great deep conversation with Shepard if she is romancing her. He's on of a few people on the ship fem shep can confine in if she is romancing with him. Add in the fact that he want to help people and do good as much as possible, even if it means damming himself.

4. It very clear that you don't understand Mordin at all. He's never like that and his just very erratic. Mordin's depth is that he truly wants to do good to help people, he just understand that the depth of doing good does not mean just doing good things. You also have to do the horrible things as well. He believes killing a serial murder is a Good thing because it stops him from other people, as well as killing very irrational murderous people, even though he is a medical doctor He believe in helping dam a people to make sure the universe stays safe, even though he does not agree it's the right decision to ever start it. He's a character that believe in trying to help people even if it mean doing horrible things.

That's why ME2 is not badly written.

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#156 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Never in my life have I seen a game so poorly put together and so far below the standard be so loved. DarkLink77
That's pretty much the definition of this generation.

No it's the definition of N64.
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#157 Tikeio
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That's pretty much the definition of this generation. DarkLink77

This gen as a whole? Yes. But there are some gems out there.

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Never in my life have I seen a game so poorly put together and so far below the standard be so loved. DarkLink77
That's pretty much the definition of this generation.

As far as the *mega popular* new Ip's, bar Assassin's Creed, yeah.

But don't forget all the quality new Ip's and the tons of fantastic games out there. It's been an amazing generation.

Overall though, last generation was much better.

I have higher hopes for next gen, mostly because of Nintendo and the Wii U.

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#159 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]That's pretty much the definition of this generation. Tikeio

This gen as a whole? Yes. But there are some gems out there.

Not saying there aren't but it's still pretty depressing.
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#160 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Never in my life have I seen a game so poorly put together and so far below the standard be so loved. theuncharted34

That's pretty much the definition of this generation.

As far as the *mega popular* new Ip's, bar Assassin's Creed, yeah.

But don't forget all the quality new Ip's and the tons of fantastic games out there. It's been an amazing generation.

Overall though, last generation was much better.

I have higher hopes for next gen, mostly because of Nintendo and the Wii U.

I can't think of that many flat-out amazing new IPs from this gen, honestly.
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#161 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] That's pretty much the definition of this generation. DarkLink77

As far as the *mega popular* new Ip's, bar Assassin's Creed, yeah.

But don't forget all the quality new Ip's and the tons of fantastic games out there. It's been an amazing generation.

Overall though, last generation was much better.

I have higher hopes for next gen, mostly because of Nintendo and the Wii U.

I can't think of that many flat-out amazing new IPs from this gen, honestly.

Yeah I know. But there are some like Valkyria Chronicles.

New Ip's have been scarce because the best games this gen were really old Ip's from the previous gen. Esp. the shooters.

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#162 dreman999
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[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]That's pretty much the definition of this generation. DarkLink77

This gen as a whole? Yes. But there are some gems out there.

Not saying there aren't but it's still pretty depressing.

Man, It's just your taste in things. Gaming may not be your type of hobby anymore. You may be catching this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRSYhLn4RCI&feature=related
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#163 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Tikeio"]

This gen as a whole? Yes. But there are some gems out there.

dreman999

Not saying there aren't but it's still pretty depressing.

Man, It's just your taste in things. Gaming may not be your type of hobby anymore. You may be catching this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRSYhLn4RCI&feature=related

That really doesn't have anything to do with it. Gaming as a whole is just substantially less creative now.

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#164 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

As far as the *mega popular* new Ip's, bar Assassin's Creed, yeah.

But don't forget all the quality new Ip's and the tons of fantastic games out there. It's been an amazing generation.

Overall though, last generation was much better.

I have higher hopes for next gen, mostly because of Nintendo and the Wii U.

theuncharted34

I can't think of that many flat-out amazing new IPs from this gen, honestly.

Yeah I know. But there are some like Valkyria Chronicles.

New Ip's have been scarce because the best games this gen were really old Ip's from the previous gen. Esp. the shooters.

Yeah, I'd agree with that.
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#166 heretrix
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There's been some great new franchises this gen, but my favorite is Mass Effect no question.

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#167 TrapJak
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Not saying there aren't but it's still pretty depressing.DarkLink77

Man, It's just your taste in things. Gaming may not be your type of hobby anymore. You may be catching this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRSYhLn4RCI&feature=related

That really doesn't have anything to do with it. Gaming as a whole is just substantially less creative now.

Hard to be creative when nearly every idea has been taken.

The Japanese can get away with wacky scenarios, but US isn't the same, unfortunately.

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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Not saying there aren't but it's still pretty depressing.DarkLink77

Man, It's just your taste in things. Gaming may not be your type of hobby anymore. You may be catching this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRSYhLn4RCI&feature=related

That really doesn't have anything to do with it. Gaming as a whole is just substantially less creative now.

No it isn't. Think about how much harder it is to be creative with so many games. I mean Super Mario I don't think it required much though to come up with that, then look at portal which is very innovative although maybe it counts as last gen.
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Valkryia Chronicles is the best new series this gen that have at least 2 iterations and is available on consoles.

But I prefer

Mount&Blade (PC exclusive)
Xenoblade (1 game)
Little King's Story (1 game)
Dark Souls (1 game)
STALKER (PC exclusive)

Mass Effect is possibly the worst series I played this gen (and possibly all time) because:

Appalling combat: Whac-a-mole, repetitive encounter design, hp bloating, horrible gunplay, boring biotics and techs, uncreative weapons, weak movements and general mechanics
Poor exploration: Copy paste interiors, terribly designed planets, scanning in ME2,
Lack luster roleplaying: Really meh stats, little customization, horrible choices and consequences, worst dialogue system known to man (being only beaten by SWTOR in this regard), you have to bring 2 allies along, level scaling
Shallow story: Cliche as hell setting, 1-2 dimentional characters with the sole exception of Wrex, bad to non-existant plots, written by Drew Karpyshyn
Worst Dialogue system known to man (ok SWTOR's is slightly worse): I am going to need more than one sentance to explain why the dialogue system in ME sucks beyond belief...

The first issue with Mass Effect's dialogue was obvious at the start, the fact you next to never had more than 3 dialogue options. Another issue that I discovered not much later in the game was how inaccurate the paraphrasing was. Too many times, what shepard said was completely different from what I had actually chosen. The issues didnt stop there either because no matter what I said, it became obvious that I had no influence on the dialogue at all, I could choose my reply but my reply had no actual effect on the conversation, ok sure sometimes you had a choice at the end but that is all. Oh and then there is the issue that if there is a renegade/intimidate option there is ALWAYS a paragon/charm option (with like one exception), and both the paragon and renegade always did the same thing. Speaking of paragon and renegage, that whole system was a mess as well, because your alignment is linked to what you can say and as a result, I never picked what I or my character wanted to say, I picked my dialogue options based on what would give me the most renegade points no matter how stupid they were just so I could get as many renegade points as possible. There is nothing positive to say about the dialogue system in ME. In fact outside of wrex and good voice acting there is nothing positive to say about Mass Effect.

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#171 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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Hmm, Its tough.

Between:

Dead Space

Mass Effect

STALKER

Uncharted

... If rocksteadys Batman ark counts, then that (I view it as another take on batman, and not part of an overall series).

If it does not count, then a tie between Uncharted and STALKER.

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Valkryia Chronicles is the best new series this gen that have at least 2 iterations and is available on consoles.

But I prefer

Mount&Blade (PC exclusive)
Xenoblade (1 game)
Little King's Story (1 game)
Dark Souls (1 game)
STALKER (PC exclusive)

Mass Effect is possibly the worst series I played this gen (and possibly all time) because:

Appalling combat: Whac-a-mole, repetitive encounter design, hp bloating, horrible gunplay, boring biotics and techs, uncreative weapons, weak movements
Poor exploration: Copy paste interiors, terribly designed planets, scanning in ME2,
Lack luster roleplaying: Really meh stats, little customization, horrible choices and consequences, worst dialogue system known to man (being only beaten by SWTOR in this regard), you have to bring 2 allies along, level scaling
Shallow story: Cliche as hell setting, 1-2 dimentional characters with the sole exception of Wrex, bad to non-existant plots, written by Drew Karpyshyn
Worst Dialogue system known to man: I am going to need more than one sentance to explain why the dialogue system in ME sucks beyond belief...

The first issue with Mass Effect's dialogue was obvious at the start, the fact that no matter what you next to never had more than 3 dialogue options. Another issue that I discovered not much later in the game was how inaccurate the paraphrasing was, way too many times, what shepard said was completely different from what I had actually chosen. The issues didnt stop there either because no matter what I said, it became obvious that I had no influence on the dialogue at all, I could choose my reply but my reply had no actual effect on the conversation, ok sure sometimes you had a choice at the end but that is all. Oh and then there is the issue that if there is a renegade/intimidate option there is ALWAYS a paragon/charm option (with like one exception), and both the paragon and renegade always did the same thing. Speaking of paragon and renegage, that whole system was a mess as well, because your alignment is linked to what you can say and as a result, I never picked what I or my character wanted to say, I picked my dialogue options based on what would give me the most renegade points no matter how stupid they were just so I could get as many renegade points as possible. There is nothing positive to say about the dialogue system in ME. In fact outside of wrex and good voice acting there is nothing positive to say about Mass Effect.

Maroxad

The man right here knows what he's talking about. I agree with everything about Mass Effect 2 but like to add that Dark Souls is very inferior to Demon's Souls.

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#173 tonitorsi
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I love to death itself Mass Effect. Its a great series. But I've always wanted them to excel in gameplay which it fails horribly with every new installment, hopefully this noticeable (and sort of ignored) flaw gets correctedi n ME3.

So I'll choose Uncharted and Assassins Creed.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

As far as the *mega popular* new Ip's, bar Assassin's Creed, yeah.

But don't forget all the quality new Ip's and the tons of fantastic games out there. It's been an amazing generation.

Overall though, last generation was much better.

I have higher hopes for next gen, mostly because of Nintendo and the Wii U.

theuncharted34

I can't think of that many flat-out amazing new IPs from this gen, honestly.

Yeah I know. But there are some like Valkyria Chronicles.

New Ip's have been scarce because the best games this gen were really old Ip's from the previous gen. Esp. the shooters.

Singularity?
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#175 SpiritOfFire117
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Somewhere between:

Gears of War

Dead Space

Mass Effect

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