Media Create Japan Sales Jan 9-15: PS Vita Is Dead (No, Really) Edition

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] That is true. I can't explain why the 360 did so bad over there.BrunoBRS

[QUOTE="PillyChickle"][QUOTE="Microsoft1234"] 360 was never alive to begin with in Japan. AmazonTreeBoa

ease off the venom and lighten up, buddy. realise that you're the one who's been trying to put spin on how bad the Vita's been doing, not once now, but twice, because you used the 360's sales figures which we all know suck in Japan anyway.

who do you think you're fooling?

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] That is true. I can't explain why the 360 did so bad over there.BrunoBRS

Tales of Vesperia was exclusive back then, Eternal Sonata too, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon (worst of the bunch, but this is Japan).

If my math is correct , the Playstation Family beat the Microsoft Family by over 47 times this week. Seems like it is a lot , but I'm not sure.

funny, i still want one...*Shut up and take my money*

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] Who knows, even when MS gave them what they liked the Japanese just didn't latch on to it. MS pretty much ignores Japan now.

SaltyMeatballs

Tales of Vesperia was exclusive back then, Eternal Sonata too, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon (worst of the bunch, but this is Japan).

Why is this thing not out in other regions yet?

Sony is only hurting themselves by waiting, from what I can tell time is making hype die down, not build up.

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="PillyChickle"] i'm sure he conveniently forgot that little fact :PPillyChickle

ease off the venom and lighten up, buddy. realise that you're the one who's been trying to put spin on how bad the Vita's been doing, not once now, but twice, because you used the 360's sales figures which we all know suck in Japan anyway.

who do you think you're fooling?

Why is this thing not out in other regions yet?

Sony is only hurting themselves by waiting, from what I can tell time is making hype die down, not build up.

topgunmv

They missed the holiday season. That was their biggest problem so far.

Oh god, SRW at #1.

All is right in the world.

SONY IS DOOOOOMED!!! (had to do it, this topic was lacking)

I had a PS2 and then got a wii. I like my wii but i feel like i missed out a bit. I have a PSP so i feel like the 3DS may burn me a bit ya know? So i'm thinking may be WiiU Vita combo for next gen. Crud may be i'm backwards and should be PS3 3DS...

[QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] No junior, I am not a dumbass like you. *fanboys and their stupid ass comments*AmazonTreeBoa

ease off the venom and lighten up, buddy. realise that you're the one who's been trying to put spin on how bad the Vita's been doing, not once now, but twice, because you used the 360's sales figures which we all know suck in Japan anyway.

who do you think you're fooling?

if you weren't trying to put a positive spin on the Vita's poor sales, why bring up 360 sales figures in the first place?

what you don't understand is the significance of the Japanese market for Sony. it's like not recognising the significance of the American market to the Xbox brand

I had a PS2 and then got a wii. I like my wii but i feel like i missed out a bit. I have a PSP so i feel like the 3DS may burn me a bit ya know? So i'm thinking may be WiiU Vita combo for next gen. Crud may be i'm backwards and should be PS3 3DS...

PA_DUTCH

I'm pretty excited for the Wii U; not so much for either handheld yet.

That said you can potentially miss out no matter what systems you buy. You could miss out even if you own everything just due to time restraints.

Just get the two systems that look the best whether they be from the same company or not.

As long as 3DS succeeds, then Nintendo should be fine with the Wii U. Whether or not the Wii U wins the next generation, I'm sure it wii be a very profitable system for Nintendo. They learned a lot from the 3DS and I'm very proud of them. As for the vita, I am not interested in it because its TOO expensive. Those memory card prices are ridiculous. At this point, I am hoping that microsoft enters the handheld race, I'm sure things would be much interesting. Amin_and_Azizah

I thought you were done with SW?:PWanderer5

Nintendo makes really crappy games but they know how to run a company.

Vita has no chance of beating the 3DS. Those are some bad sales. I don't see the Vita dead yet but it will struggle all year.

Is it true Sony is losing $60 off of each Vita?CanYouDiglt

I was able to fnd out for myself. I guess it is true.

http://myona.com/2011/08/13/a-60-loss-per-ps-vita-sold-for-sony-analyst/

This is funny as hell then since Sony can not even do a price drop. Even a $50 price drop would mean $110 loss on each Vita. The PSVita is so doomed. Sony can not drop the price and the small about the do sell only costs Sony more money.

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

• PS3 > Wii > 360
• PSP > DS versions
• PS2 >
• 3DS > Vita

Almost a clean sweep for the mighty Playstation Family.

SaltyMeatballs

I love you. :lol:

Judging from the few quotes already fired at you. they're eating it up :lol::P

Yes, yes, yessss :P:twisted:

[QUOTE="PA_DUTCH"]

I had a PS2 and then got a wii. I like my wii but i feel like i missed out a bit. I have a PSP so i feel like the 3DS may burn me a bit ya know? So i'm thinking may be WiiU Vita combo for next gen. Crud may be i'm backwards and should be PS3 3DS...

SW__Troll

I'm pretty excited for the Wii U; not so much for either handheld yet.

That said you can potentially miss out no matter what systems you buy. You could miss out even if you own everything just due to time restraints.

Just get the two systems that look the best whether they be from the same company or not.

• PS3 > Wii > 360
• PSP > DS versions
• PS2 >
• 3DS > Vita

Almost a clean sweep for the mighty Playstation Family.

Nike_Air

Is it true Sony is losing $60 off of each Vita?CanYouDiglt

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Is it true Sony is losing $60 off of each Vita?BrunoBRS

no it didn't :|

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Is it true Sony is losing $60 off of each Vita?PillyChickle

no it didn't :|

3DS is a healthy system for core software sales. This E3 better be filled with announcements.

[QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] well sony sells at a loss to make hardware cheaper, then makes up for it with software per system sales. the PS3 at launch costed $250 a unit for sony.BrunoBRS

no it didn't :|

[QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] well sony sells at a loss to make hardware cheaper, then makes up for it with software per system sales. the PS3 at launch costed $250 a unit for sony.BrunoBRS

no it didn't :|

"UPDATE:Our bad, Microsoft actuallymakes$75.70 per 360 sold, as opposed to the$71 they were losinglast year at launch."

lol

[QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] well sony sells at a loss to make hardware cheaper, then makes up for it with software per system sales. the PS3 at launch costed $250 a unit for sony.BrunoBRS

no it didn't :|

I misunderstood, I thought you meant it cost them $250 to build :P

but indeed, goes to show that without the money Sony made with the PS2, the PS3 would not have gotten far..

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

no it didn't :|

themajormayor

"overpriced" is related to cost/benefit for the consumer, not with factory costs. the cost was too high and benefit was too low for the consumer, when compared with the other options in the market, thus the PS3 was overpriced.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] if i remember well it did. sony sold them at a loss of $200-250. actually scratch that. it was $250-300. holy crap. BrunoBRS

"overpriced" is related to cost/benefit for the consumer, not with factory costs. the cost was too high and benefit was too low for the consumer, when compared with the other options in the market, thus the PS3 was overpriced.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] And people called it overprizedthemajormayor

"overpriced" is related to cost/benefit for the consumer, not with factory costs. the cost was too high and benefit was too low for the consumer, when compared with the other options in the market, thus the PS3 was overpriced.

Who wants to purchase expensive blu-ray players and movies, in a time when the next gen video format had not been decided yet as well as the HD TV market penetration was low.

Foolish

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] And people called it overprizedthemajormayor

"overpriced" is related to cost/benefit for the consumer, not with factory costs. the cost was too high and benefit was too low for the consumer, when compared with the other options in the market, thus the PS3 was overpriced.

Lol, Japan is so insignificant in terms of total numbers. Just look at how little of an impact Japan has on sales compared to the USA or Europe. They're just a tiny spot on the map that make up a small fraction of sales. I'll hold out on claiming the Vita is dead until I see it fail in the USA or Europe where sales are actually significant.

Lol, Japan is so insignificant in terms of total numbers. Just look at how little of an impact Japan has on sales compared to the USA or Europe. They're just a tiny spot on the map that make up a small fraction of sales. I'll hold out on claiming the Vita is dead until I see it fail in the USA or Europe where sales are actually significant.

arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Lol, Japan is so insignificant in terms of total numbers. Just look at how little of an impact Japan has on sales compared to the USA or Europe. They're just a tiny spot on the map that make up a small fraction of sales. I'll hold out on claiming the Vita is dead until I see it fail in the USA or Europe where sales are actually significant.

charizard1605

Out of the 100 million Wii units sold, 10 million came from Japan. I call that insignificant.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Lol, Japan is so insignificant in terms of total numbers. Just look at how little of an impact Japan has on sales compared to the USA or Europe. They're just a tiny spot on the map that make up a small fraction of sales. I'll hold out on claiming the Vita is dead until I see it fail in the USA or Europe where sales are actually significant.

charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Lol, Japan is so insignificant in terms of total numbers. Just look at how little of an impact Japan has on sales compared to the USA or Europe. They're just a tiny spot on the map that make up a small fraction of sales. I'll hold out on claiming the Vita is dead until I see it fail in the USA or Europe where sales are actually significant.

blue_hazy_basic

Lol, no, he's not right.

94 million Wii sold - 12 million of them were sold in Japan 13%

64 million 360s sold - 1.5 million of them were sold in Japan A measly 2%

61 million PS3s sold - 7.7 million of them were sold in Japan 13%

15 million 3DS sold - 4.6 million of them were sold in Japan 31% (this one will change because the system hasn't been around long and had exclusivity to Japan for a long time before being released in USA or Europe)

Keep in mind that the Wii, PS3 and 3DS had a major head start in Japan being released many months earlier than other regions.

Japan sales are insignificant when you look at the big picture. Japan doesn't dictate if a product fails, the wallets of Europeans and Americans are what matters. I'll wait until Vita releases in Europe and USA before I make any bold claims like "IT FAILED"!!