Media Create Japan Sales Jan 9-15: PS Vita Is Dead (No, Really) Edition

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]This is Japanese sales! Japanese sales=/= world. Why are we talking about Japanes sales and not worldwide sales? Japanese people are biased. Sales don't matter anymore. I can't play sales. Why do people post these sales threads? Wait none of these have been spammed endlessly by cows in this thread like they do page after page in NPD threads??!?!?! I wonder why? :)blue_hazy_basic

Although, the NPD =/= world people are annoying as well.

I don't think I've ever seen non-alts/noobs translate Japanese sales into global sales. Rather the vast majority of SW pretends Japan is largely insignificant.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]No one pretends Japanese sales are representative or indicative of global sales.

Although, the NPD =/= world people are annoying as well.

I don't think I've ever seen non-alts/noobs translate Japanese sales into global sales. Rather the vast majority of SW pretends Japan is largely insignificant.

Granted I haven't been around much recently, but last time someone said that I challenged them to find 2 instances in a 25 page thread on NPD of people saying that and no one did. If NPD is in the title everyone knows its US sales. Even if a couple of people don't or try to use it as WW they are outweighed at least 20 fold by people typing the nonsense above blue_hazy_basic

I'm saying that people are far more likely to take and have taken more often, NPD figures as indicative of global sales and performance, while Media Create figures are, for all intents and purposes, never taken for granted as representative, making such comment even more redundant.

There is more basis, while still redundant, to make such comment about NPD numbers, than Media Create numbers.

You asked why no one ever makes such comment in these threads. That is why.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

So one would only assume that the Vita would do significantly better in Europe and USA than it would in Japan based simply on the fact that the current launch library consists of games that appeal to western gamers more than they do eastern gamers. It's really no surprise that the thing is bombing in Japan, there aren't even any games out for it that they like over there. The Vita was totally built from the ground up to have a successful launch in an area like Europe or the USA based on the launch lineup, which is probably not a bad idea because like I said, that's where the majority of the sales come from, not from Japan.

arkephonic

That's true. I'm not proclaiming to have a crystal ball and the ability to see into the future, but I'm just saying, hold off on saying the device is "dead" until it releases in EU and US, the more impactful regions in terms of sales.

I have a 3DS and I love the thing, and I'm not even 100% sure if I'm going to buy a Vita, so it's not like I'm blindly supporting the device here, I'm just using pure logic here. Hell, I bet when it is all said and done, the 3DS will sell twice as much as the Vita, but that doesn't mean the Vita is going to die or is going to fail.

People are just overreacting, that's all.

I couldn't agree more with everything you just said, so few posters that think logically.

Anyways, thanks Charizard for posting the Media Create sales and wish you would stick around more often, posting news, more sales like you used too (unless you posting somewhere else :O)

The PS Vita's fate will rely on EU, AU and NA. It's that simple.

So what the Vita has done is split the PSP numbers in two, and the rest have been killed off by 3DS and indecision.

Jeez. Sony must be looking for a way to fix this. The PSV looks like a beautiful piece of hardware, it's just too much money.

So what the Vita has done is split the PSP numbers in two, and the rest have been killed off by 3DS and indecision.

hakanakumono

Great point. People seems to forget that the PSP is still going pretty strong in Japan. PSV and PSP are cannibalizing each others' sales.

Case in point: Growlanser and Suikoden Sequel announced for PSP.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

So what the Vita has done is split the PSP numbers in two, and the rest have been killed off by 3DS and indecision.

nitekids2004

Great point. People seems to forget that the PSP is still going pretty strong in Japan. PSV and PSP are cannibalizing each others' sales.

Case in point: Growlanser and Suikoden Sequel announced for PSP.

It was even worse for 3DS vs NDS.

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

So what the Vita has done is split the PSP numbers in two, and the rest have been killed off by 3DS and indecision.

SuperFlakeman

Great point. People seems to forget that the PSP is still going pretty strong in Japan. PSV and PSP are cannibalizing each others' sales.

Case in point: Growlanser and Suikoden Sequel announced for PSP.

It was even worse for 3DS vs NDS.

Ladies and genetelmen, the end of Sony has begun.

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

So what the Vita has done is split the PSP numbers in two, and the rest have been killed off by 3DS and indecision.

SuperFlakeman

Great point. People seems to forget that the PSP is still going pretty strong in Japan. PSV and PSP are cannibalizing each others' sales.

Case in point: Growlanser and Suikoden Sequel announced for PSP.

It was even worse for 3DS vs NDS.

Not really since you could play DS games on the 3DS so in the long run it was better to buy a 3DS and have the entire DS library as well as the future 3DS library. The Vita on the other hand is going up against the PSP simply because you can't normally play PSP games on the Vita (You can't do it easily or for free). Basically buyers are put in a situation were they either buy a Vita and essentially lose the PSP library (Unless they buy the game and pay additional costs to transfer it) or buy the PSP and have access to it's large library normally. Using UMD's in the PSP has to be one of the worst decisions Sony or any of the big 3 has made in quite a while, it's still haunting them even into the next generation of handhelds.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

So what the Vita has done is split the PSP numbers in two, and the rest have been killed off by 3DS and indecision.

nitekids2004

Great point. People seems to forget that the PSP is still going pretty strong in Japan. PSV and PSP are cannibalizing each others' sales.

Case in point: Growlanser and Suikoden Sequel announced for PSP.

Well yes, the PSP is selling stronger than the Vita. Of course the games such as Super Robot Wars cater to the Japanese, but why isn't it out for the PSV? It would have helped sales of the Vita. Why release new hardware if they're profiting and selling more of the old hardware?

Vita need a trademark JRPG or a very well known exclusive to boost sales.....its games are really on western perspective its horrible start of it

Vita need a trademark JRPG or a very well known exclusive to boost sales.....its games are really on western perspective its horrible start of it

majestix1988

[QUOTE="majestix1988"]

Vita need a trademark JRPG or a very well known exclusive to boost sales.....its games are really on western perspective its horrible start of it

CajunShooter

i guess Persona 4 Golden or FFX HD will do the trick

i guess Persona 4 Golden or FFX HD will do the trick

majestix1988

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"][QUOTE="majestix1988"]

Vita need a trademark JRPG or a very well known exclusive to boost sales.....its games are really on western perspective its horrible start of it

majestix1988

i guess Persona 4 Golden or FFX HD will do the trick

Both are just slightly upgraded ports. I don't think they'll do much for sales of the system.

The Vita needs a unique, exclusive, super-popular RPG on its system to help bolster sales.

Like Monster Hunter...but the 3DS already has that IP covered.

"Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin II - Revelation of Evil God" lol at the title of this game. What the f*ck?Stevo_the_gamer

It's a super robot wars game, its dealing with the OG mecha, and then it has subtexts. I'm not familiar with the story workings but there are some pretty godly mecha in the series (solar system destroying strong.)

"Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin II - Revelation of Evil God" lol at the title of this game. What the f*ck?Stevo_the_gamer

At least it's not as bad as the name of this Japanese game:

Do you know what that title means in English?

It means "White Princess the Second ~ Love Adventure in the School That Follows the Principle of Convenience, Where It's Okay to Stray From the Path or Stay on the Path."

Yeah...that title is normal by comparison.

Nintendomination

SaltyMeatballs

:lol: I love that pic. Sony really needs to do something fast.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]"Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin II - Revelation of Evil God" lol at the title of this game. What the f*ck?OneSanitarium

It's a super robot wars game, its dealing with the OG mecha, and then it has subtexts. I'm not familiar with the story workings but there are some pretty godly mecha in the series (solar system destroying strong.)

The name is not that stupid if you actually know the history of the game.

At least it's not as bad as the name of this Japanese game:

Do you know what that title means in English?

It means "White Princess the Second ~ Love Adventure in the School That Follows the Principle of Convenience, Where It's Okay to Stray From the Path or Stay on the Path."

Yeah...that title is normal by comparison.

peterw007

Oh, wow. LOL The Japanese game industry is... an interesting one...

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]"Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin II - Revelation of Evil God" lol at the title of this game. What the f*ck?OneSanitarium

It's a super robot wars game, its dealing with the OG mecha, and then it has subtexts. I'm not familiar with the story workings but there are some pretty godly mecha in the series (solar system destroying strong.)

[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]"Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin II - Revelation of Evil God" lol at the title of this game. What the f*ck?SRW-MKII

It's a super robot wars game, its dealing with the OG mecha, and then it has subtexts. I'm not familiar with the story workings but there are some pretty godly mecha in the series (solar system destroying strong.)

The name is not that stupid if you actually know the history of the game.

It's the sequel, the limited edition comes with a remake of the original.

[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]"Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin II - Revelation of Evil God" lol at the title of this game. What the f*ck?SRW-MKII

It's a super robot wars game, its dealing with the OG mecha, and then it has subtexts. I'm not familiar with the story workings but there are some pretty godly mecha in the series (solar system destroying strong.)

The name is not that stupid if you actually know the history of the game.

I think its a sequel.

[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]"Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin II - Revelation of Evil God" lol at the title of this game. What the f*ck?Stevo_the_gamer

It's a super robot wars game, its dealing with the OG mecha, and then it has subtexts. I'm not familiar with the story workings but there are some pretty godly mecha in the series (solar system destroying strong.)

Left...

I think its a sequel.

OneSanitarium

Thanks Japan!

I see, after looking around the snes remake was made for ds.

@Yangire, nice sig but bit disapoint at lack of King of Brave in that one.

[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

I think its a sequel.

Stevo_the_gamer

Thanks Japan!

Because stupidity, **** yeah!

I see, after looking around the snes remake was made for ds.

@Yangire, nice sig but bit disapoint at lack of King of Brave in that one.

SRW-MKII

Yeah I didn't make the image, it's from a collection of CDs with various mecha theme songs. GaoGaiGar is my favorite anime, but I guess Exkaiser was easier to get for the CD.

[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

I think its a sequel.

Stevo_the_gamer

Thanks Japan!

I hope you get to play as an "18" year old girl with huge boobs in it.

Yeah I didn't make the image, it's from a collection of CDs with various mecha theme songs. GaoGaiGar is my favorite anime, but I guess Exkaiser was easier to get for the CD.

Yangire

I hope you get to play as an "18" year old girl with huge boobs in it.

SW__Troll

[QUOTE="Yangire"]Yeah I didn't make the image, it's from a collection of CDs with various mecha theme songs. GaoGaiGar is my favorite anime, but I guess Exkaiser was easier to get for the CD.

SRW-MKII

I think we should all be friends, seeing as how You, Yangire, and I all place GaoGaiGar as our favorite.

Hm... Its a very low week for gaming as a whole...bbkkristian

It's also mid-late January. Generally sales--whether restaurants, shops, or video games--are very low around this time period.

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

I hope you get to play as an "18" year old girl with huge boobs in it.

SRW-MKII

DFC is good too, but only to offset the big breasted girl.

Why not hit two fetishes in one go?

[QUOTE="SRW-MKII"]

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

I hope you get to play as an "18" year old girl with huge boobs in it.

SW__Troll

DFC is good too, but only to offset the big breasted girl.

Why not hit two fetishes in one go?

Now you just need the chick in the maid costume and the chick with cat ears and a tail, and the token male for balance.

And then you'd have a nice Japanese cast!

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Hm... Its a very low week for gaming as a whole...peterw007

It's also mid-late January. Generally sales--whether restaurants, shops, or video games--are very low around this time period.

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Don't get me wrong, I am not defending the Vita. But by your logic TC, the 360 is also dead and has been for over a year.Microsoft1234

[QUOTE="SRW-MKII"]

[QUOTE="Yangire"]Yeah I didn't make the image, it's from a collection of CDs with various mecha theme songs. GaoGaiGar is my favorite anime, but I guess Exkaiser was easier to get for the CD.

OneSanitarium

I think we should all be friends, seeing as how You, Yangire, and I all place GaoGaiGar as our favorite.

Good man, anyone that put GaoGaiGar as his favorite anime is a true mecha fan.

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

[QUOTE="SRW-MKII"] Ahh but there are many instance where the character is 14~16 being completetly flat :).

peterw007

DFC is good too, but only to offset the big breasted girl.

Why not hit two fetishes in one go?

Now you just need the chick in the maid costume and the chick with cat ears and a tail, and the token male for balance.

And then you'd have a nice Japanese cast!

And also the girl, who is out to assassinate you, who your super kawaii party member is always trying to be friends with.

[QUOTE="ShuichiChamp24"]Gotta love that picture. Anyway, where or where have you been Char.charizard1605

same with me char, especially i start school again soon theres way too much going on here that it seems will never get corrected

I think the real top story is the 3DS dropping 140 K in sales.Easyle

ofc you wuld say that seeing that the holidays just ended and this is the driest part of the year

but anything to make it seems like nintendo is doing bad

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Don't get me wrong, I am not defending the Vita. But by your logic TC, the 360 is also dead and has been for over a year.AmazonTreeBoa

its an american product, thats a big reason and they dont get any games catered to japanese

[QUOTE="lordlors"] So why should SW care about Vita's release in the West when handhelds are more unpopular there compared to Japan?CajunShooter

alot of ds sales are from the west.....this statement is very false

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

[QUOTE="Furbyballistik"]It has been 7 years. You would think nintendo wouldve learned this before releasing the 3ds. They didnt announce their second pad til aftet the vita was announced. I'd say it was more of a tactic against sony.Furbyballistik

clearly you two havent played 3ds online which is really fluid, easy to use and alot more social

judging the wiiu online before it even comes out is really lame tbh

Here are my 2 cents :

- first of all, Japan, a single country having 10% of total hardware sales for something is quite huge, you are comparing sales between a country and a whole continent

- Sony could afford losing more than whatever loses for each PS Vita, if that attracts more hardware sells -> more developers will become interested in developing for Vita -> a lot more dev-kits, test-kits and licenses would sell. Do you know how much a dev-kit cost ? A few tens of times more than its manufacturing cost, if I remember correctly, a DS dev-kit was about 4000$ and it was considered one of the most affordable (here is some more info : http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=14693&highlight=NDS+Dev+kits)

- Vita is an incredible piece of hardware, but it needs games and it needs advertising to show to the ignorant masses just how much power and features it has, otherwise, an auto-3d screen, which is something you can see right out of the box, regardless of the dated hardware inside the 3DS will make more people buy it rather than some state of the art internals which aren't obvious to the non tech-savvy public