Media Create (JP) 10/16/17-10/22/17: GT Sport and PS4 race to the top! 7 of the top 10 are PS games!

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Software Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

  1. [PS4] Gran Turismo Sport (Limited Edition Included) (SIE, 10/19/17) – 150,286 (New)
  2. [PS4] City Shrouded in Shadow (Bandai Namco, 10/19/17) – 48,935 (New)
  3. [PS4] The Evil Within 2 (Bethesda Softworks, 10/19/17) – 42,941 (New)
  4. [PS4] Itadaki Street: Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy 30th Anniversary (Square Enix, 10/19/17) – 42,092 (New)
  5. [PSV] Uta no Prince-sama: Amazing Aria & Sweet Serenade Love (Broccoli, 10/19/17) – 19,904 (New)
  6. [PSV] Itadaki Street: Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy 30th Anniversary (Square Enix, 10/19/17) – 18,784 (New)
  7. [NSW] Splatoon 2 (Nintendo, 07/21/17) – 16,483 (1,249,006)
  8. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo, 04,28,17) – 11,142 (758,597)
  9. [PS4] Middle-earth: Shadow of War (Warner Bros., 10/12/17) – 8,083 (28,227)
  10. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Limited Edition Included) (Nintendo, 03/03/17) – 5,430 (616,383)
  11. [NSW] Pokken Tournament DX (Nintendo, 09/22/17) – 5,224 (102,359)
  12. [3DS] Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser’s Minions (Nintendo, 10/05/17) – 5,092 (43,094)
  13. [PS4] FIFA 18 (Limited Editions and Bundles Included) (Electronic Arts, 09/29/17) – 3,910 (79,701)
  14. [PS4] No Heroes Allowed! VR (SIE, 10/14/17) – 3,464 (8,925)
  15. [PS4] Pro Evolution Soccer 2018 (Konami, 09/14/17) – 2,987 (105,005)
  16. [3DS] The Snack World: Trejarers (Level-5, 08/10/17) – 2,882 (183,780)
  17. [NSW] Monster Hunter XX Nintendo Switch Ver. (Capcom, 08/25/17) – 2,814 (158,448)
  18. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf Amiibo+ (Nintendo, 11/23/16) – 2,748 (256,413)
  19. [NSW] NBA 2K18 (2K Games, 10/17/17) – 2,689 (New)
  20. [PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III (Limited Edition Included) (Falcom, 09/28/17) – 2,473 (107,772)

Hardware Sales (followed by last week’s sales)

  1. Switch – 31,092 (40,803)
  2. PlayStation 4 – 25,075 (16,933)
  3. New 2DS LL – 8,449 (10,569)
  4. PlayStation 4 Pro – 6,203(5,773)
  5. New 3DS LL – 6,187 (8,369)
  6. PlayStation Vita – 3,535 (3,938)
  7. 2DS – 1,367 (1,565)
  8. New 3DS – 195 (242)
  9. Xbox One – 69 (71)
  10. PlayStation 3 – 50 (65)
  11. Wii U – 40 (58)

Read more at http://gematsu.com/2017/10/media-create-sales-101617-102217#LhRArb7IttvBASsD.99

PS4 is in first place when combining PS4 and Pro sales (31,278). Good week for Sony! Granted, it's a little hollow if you can figure out why Switch sales dropped, but there's no arguing the great software sales.

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forza who lol?

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Pfft, poor lems. 1st UK, now Japan.

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4 PS4 games in the 4 top spots? Enjoy, that'll happen about 0 times again in the foreseeable future :P

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PS3 beats Wii60 once again.

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A game only needs to sell 150,000 to top the charts in Japan, such a small market for gaming no wonder MS don’t give a crap about Japan anymore

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@tibua said:

A game only needs to sell 150,000 to top the charts in Japan, such a small market for gaming no wonder MS don’t give a crap about Japan anymore

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@tibua:

Isn’t Japan like a top 5 gaming market?

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#9  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@tibua said:

A game only needs to sell 150,000 to top the charts in Japan, such a small market for gaming no wonder MS don’t give a crap about Japan anymore

150K in a week is bad now? Especially when GT was available for only 3 days in said week?

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@lrdfancypants said:

@tibua:

Isn’t Japan like a top 5 gaming market?

By country , yep. Flopza 7 would be lucky to hit 100k in all of Europe the first week where racing sims are the strongest , lol. Microflop would be dancing in the streets for 150k in Europe. Just imagine if Flopza 7 was successful in Japan and Asia like GT Sport. Mass hysteria. Lems are delusional.

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@Nike_Air:

I never understand the MS should abandon Japan comments. I mean even if console gaming is down there it’s still larger than a lot of other markets.

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#12  Edited By Rahnyc4
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blogs was rumored to say the ps4 outsold the switch, guess not. Also the dawn of the final day about to hit japan soon. so the switch numbers are gonna explode.

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@Rahnyc4 said:

blogs was rumored to say the ps4 outsold the switch, guess not. Also the dawn of the final day about to hit japan soon. so the switch numbers are gonna explode.

It kind of did if you combine PS4 and PS4 Pro.

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#14  Edited By Rahnyc4
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@Zero_epyon: though we dont do that, since the mixing of the Ds and 3Ds skews never counted as totals. They always counted as separate but cause of that was the case, then the 3ds always dominated japan, even during a period when ps4 was number 1.

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Well all celebrate SONY's dominance of hardware and software this gen 8.

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#16  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@Rahnyc4 said:

@Zero_epyon: though we dont do that, since the mixing of the Ds and 3Ds skews never counted as totals. They always counted as separate but cause of that was the case, then the 3ds always dominated japan, even during a period when ps4 was number 1.

I always combined them It made sense to me at least. They were different builds of the same device. I think they're separate in these lists for clarity.

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#17  Edited By Nike_Air
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@Zero_epyon said:
@Rahnyc4 said:

@Zero_epyon: though we dont do that, since the mixing of the Ds and 3Ds skews never counted as totals. They always counted as separate but cause of that was the case, then the 3ds always dominated japan, even during a period when ps4 was number 1.

I always combined them It made sense to me at least. They were different builds of the same device. I think they're separate in these lists for clarity.

Yep. Nobody is going to say the Vita outsold the 2DS and new 3DS.

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@lrdfancypants said:

@Nike_Air:

I never understand the MS should abandon Japan comments. I mean even if console gaming is down there it’s still larger than a lot of other markets.

Look at Xbox One's sales.

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@Rahnyc4 said:

@Zero_epyon: though we dont do that, since the mixing of the Ds and 3Ds skews never counted as totals. They always counted as separate but cause of that was the case, then the 3ds always dominated japan, even during a period when ps4 was number 1.

I see no reason to not combine SKUs. Every other region does it. They only separate it here because they want to track the individual SKUs. Don't deny PS4 this win. It could be the last win it ever has in Japan. :(

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@Rahnyc4 said:

@Zero_epyon: though we dont do that, since the mixing of the Ds and 3Ds skews never counted as totals. They always counted as separate but cause of that was the case, then the 3ds always dominated japan, even during a period when ps4 was number 1.

uh, the DS and the 3DS are completely different consoles... the Pro and the PS4 are the same (the same as in "have the same games library" available)

edit: Or do you mean the 2DS instead of the DS? If so then yeah, they should be counted combined cause they're the "same" console but with different Hardware. What counts is having the same game library

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@techhog89: no ones denying it. its just a fact they dont combine em. when the ps4 was number one for a second, followed by the 3ds. they didnt combine 3ds skus, which if they did at the time the ps4 never would have been a top selling hardware for those weeks/months in japan. PS4 can get that same treatment, the DS brand and the 3ds brand have gotten.

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@Vatusus: not what im talking about, guy. im talking about generations, not the hardwares being similar. When the Ds was popular in japan back then and nintendo had different SKU's, that being the DS, DS lite and the DSI, they never combined the numbers. even during periods where the psp beat the DS brand, they never combined the SKU's, had they done that it would of been a different story, where the Ds easily outsold the PSP at the time back then when the PSP beat the Ds.

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@Rahnyc4 said:

@Vatusus: not what im talking about, guy. im talking about generations, not the hardwares being similar. When the Ds was popular in japan back then and nintendo had different SKU's, that being the DS, DS lite and the DSI, they never combined the numbers. even during periods where the psp beat the DS brand, they never combined the SKU's, had they done that it would of been a different story, where the Ds easily outsold the PSP at the time back then when the PSP beat the Ds.

guy?

anyway, if that was true, then it was done wrong. Same console, regardless of SKU, should be combined

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GT Sport is off to a flying start. That's really impressive!

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@Rahnyc4 said:

@Vatusus: not what im talking about, guy. im talking about generations, not the hardwares being similar. When the Ds was popular in japan back then and nintendo had different SKU's, that being the DS, DS lite and the DSI, they never combined the numbers. even during periods where the psp beat the DS brand, they never combined the SKU's, had they done that it would of been a different story, where the Ds easily outsold the PSP at the time back then when the PSP beat the Ds.

The numbers were always combined before. Then they seperated them down at the bottom. The PS4 and Pro sales were combined too , and then seperated at the bottom. These recent sales that SHEEP post don't have them combined , then seperated at the bottom. Either Media Create changed , or Sheep are intentionally using these seperated only numbers because they want to show the Switch in its best light.

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@Ant_17: Gran Turismo Sport didn't sell that well compared to old entries

01./00. [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 (SCE) - 634,769 / NEW

03./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (SCE) - 115,748 / NEW

04./00. [PSP] Gran Turismo (SCE) - 134,000 / NEW

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (SCE) - 430.707 / NEW

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 <RCE> (SCE) - 204.784 / NEW

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#27  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@Rahnyc4: It doesn't really matter. :P They are both PS4 platforms. One is more powerful, so I think it makes sense to consider it the sales of the PS4 family of platforms as a group. It's nice to see the system doing well, especially considering the state of console gaming in Japan.

The PS4 is selling well regardless of the reputation home consoles have there. :)

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@FireEmblem_Man said:

@Ant_17: Gran Turismo Sport didn't sell that well compared to old entries

01./00. [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 (SCE) - 634,769 / NEW

03./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (SCE) - 115,748 / NEW

04./00. [PSP] Gran Turismo (SCE) - 134,000 / NEW

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (SCE) - 430.707 / NEW

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 <RCE> (SCE) - 204.784 / NEW

Yeah, it bombed. I didn't want to say anything about it though so that Sony fans could be happy with Japan for once.

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@Nike_Air: This is media crate. they don't combine the SKU's they seperate em. heres a old media crate chart, as an example. As you can see the DS sku's are broken up.

1. 3DS – 482,200 (367,691)

2. PSP – 101,121 (64,468)

3. Wii – 91,176 (60,916)

4. PS3 – 75,943 (65,119)

5. PSV – 72,479 (324,859)

6. DSi LL – 8,470 (5,600)

7. DSi – 5,894 (3,584)

8. Xbox 360 – 4,245 (3,584)

9. PS2 – 1,582 (1,400)

10. DS Lite – 32 (32)Read more at http://gematsu.com/2011/12/3ds-tops-this-weeks-japanese-sales#KosvhqUwocDqrL0L.99

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@techhog89 said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:

@Ant_17: Gran Turismo Sport didn't sell that well compared to old entries

01./00. [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 (SCE) - 634,769 / NEW

03./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (SCE) - 115,748 / NEW

04./00. [PSP] Gran Turismo (SCE) - 134,000 / NEW

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (SCE) - 430.707 / NEW

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 <RCE> (SCE) - 204.784 / NEW

Yeah, it bombed. I didn't want to say anything about it though so that Sony fans could be happy with Japan for once.

Meh, still beat the rest this week.

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#31  Edited By Techhog89
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@Nike_Air said:
@Rahnyc4 said:

@Vatusus: not what im talking about, guy. im talking about generations, not the hardwares being similar. When the Ds was popular in japan back then and nintendo had different SKU's, that being the DS, DS lite and the DSI, they never combined the numbers. even during periods where the psp beat the DS brand, they never combined the SKU's, had they done that it would of been a different story, where the Ds easily outsold the PSP at the time back then when the PSP beat the Ds.

The numbers were always combined before. Then they seperated them down at the bottom. The PS4 and Pro sales were combined too , and then seperated at the bottom. These recent sales that SHEEP post don't have them combined , then seperated at the bottom. Either Media Create changed , or Sheep are intentionally using these seperated only numbers because they want to show the Switch in its best light.

If you're talking about the NeoGAF threads, the guy who made the threads there combined the SKUs himself. I can start doing that if people want me to, but I'm just lazy. If you look at the source I'm copying from, you'll see that I'm literally copying and pasting what's there. Also, I made sure to note that PS4 won this week. You have no reason to be upset.

Edit: Here's one from 2011 which shows that SKUs were always separated in the raw distributed data: http://gematsu.com/2011/12/3ds-tops-this-weeks-japanese-sales

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#32  Edited By Jag85
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@lrdfancypants said:

@tibua:

Isn’t Japan like a top 5 gaming market?

It's the #3 market, behind China and the US.

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#33  Edited By KBFloYd
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congrats sony.....gameswise :P so many releases for them this week!

but hardware... switch sold 31,092 and PS4 sold 31,275...so they tied nintendo this week.

city shrouded in shadow looks pretty good. and lol at itadaki street being a decent seller :P

2 games for vita this month....1 of them on PS4...lol

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Do you think Mario Odyssey will outsell Splatoon in Japan?

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@techhog89:

What?

So just give up on a large market completely?

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#36  Edited By lrdfancypants
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@Jag85:

If it’s number 3 it makes even less sense to give up on it.

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Didn't see that coming after the disaster that was GT6 ... anyway. PS4 sales did not spike despite the new release? I guess time for a price drop ?!

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#38  Edited By lexxluger
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@techhog89 said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:

@Ant_17: Gran Turismo Sport didn't sell that well compared to old entries

01./00. [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 (SCE) - 634,769 / NEW

03./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (SCE) - 115,748 / NEW

04./00. [PSP] Gran Turismo (SCE) - 134,000 / NEW

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (SCE) - 430.707 / NEW

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 <RCE> (SCE) - 204.784 / NEW

Yeah, it bombed. I didn't want to say anything about it though so that Sony fans could be happy with Japan for once.

Bombed? Really? GTSport netted 150k in 3 days!

What did Forza 7 end up selling on the chart?

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@adsparky said:

Do you think Mario Odyssey will outsell Splatoon in Japan?

Mario Odyssey is going to outsell everything everywhere!

That's not even a question, the only question is by how much will it destroy other games that dare to release near it's launch.

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@lexxluger said:
@techhog89 said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:

@Ant_17: Gran Turismo Sport didn't sell that well compared to old entries

01./00. [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 (SCE) - 634,769 / NEW

03./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (SCE) - 115,748 / NEW

04./00. [PSP] Gran Turismo (SCE) - 134,000 / NEW

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (SCE) - 430.707 / NEW

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 <RCE> (SCE) - 204.784 / NEW

Yeah, it bombed. I didn't want to say anything about it though so that Sony fans could be happy with Japan for once.

Bombed? Really? GTSport netted 150k in 3 days!

What did Forza 7 end up selling on the chart?

This is Japan we're talking about! The console market over there is shrinking. This isn't good for Japan, even after 3 days! If Super Mario Odyssey manages to sell above 150,000 units in one day, prepare to eat your words.

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This talk about MS not caring about Japan is BS. Put it this way, 150k x $70 (average new price) = $10,500,000 less of course, production costs, money to the gameshops, etc. That's not chump change.

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#42 Ant_17
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@lexxluger said:
@techhog89 said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:

@Ant_17: Gran Turismo Sport didn't sell that well compared to old entries

01./00. [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 (SCE) - 634,769 / NEW

03./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (SCE) - 115,748 / NEW

04./00. [PSP] Gran Turismo (SCE) - 134,000 / NEW

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (SCE) - 430.707 / NEW

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 <RCE> (SCE) - 204.784 / NEW

Yeah, it bombed. I didn't want to say anything about it though so that Sony fans could be happy with Japan for once.

Bombed? Really? GTSport netted 150k in 3 days!

What did Forza 7 end up selling on the chart?

This is Japan we're talking about! The console market over there is shrinking. This isn't good for Japan, even after 3 days! If Super Mario Odyssey manages to sell above 150,000 units in one day, prepare to eat your words.

Zelda made more, so let's say 250,000, since you're so sure with mario.

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#43  Edited By mowgly1
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@FireEmblem_Man said:

@Ant_17: Gran Turismo Sport didn't sell that well compared to old entries

01./00. [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 (SCE) - 634,769 / NEW

03./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (SCE) - 115,748 / NEW

04./00. [PSP] Gran Turismo (SCE) - 134,000 / NEW

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (SCE) - 430.707 / NEW

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 <RCE> (SCE) - 204.784 / NEW

You should include that PS3 install base was 10 mil in Japan during GT6 release. PS4 is now over 5 mil. Problem?

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#44 lexxluger
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@FireEmblem_Man said:

This is Japan we're talking about! The console market over there is shrinking. This isn't good for Japan, even after 3 days! If Super Mario Odyssey manages to sell above 150,000 units in one day, prepare to eat your words.

what...the hell are you talking about?

I know fanboys are known to say stupid things for no reason, but what does that have to do with anything I was talking about.

Prepare to eat my word for what? Dude lay off the drugs and make some sense for once.

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#45 FireEmblem_Man
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@lexxluger said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:

This is Japan we're talking about! The console market over there is shrinking. This isn't good for Japan, even after 3 days! If Super Mario Odyssey manages to sell above 150,000 units in one day, prepare to eat your words.

what...the hell are you talking about?

I know fanboys are known to say stupid things for no reason, but what does that have to do with anything I was talking about.

Prepare to eat my word for what? Dude lay off the drugs and make some sense for once.

Lex Luger should have done the same with all of those steroids, maybe he would have walked normally. Gran Turismo Sport didn't sell well compared to past iterations in Japan. Shows that a popular console game isn't enough to push PS4 sales to a shrinking market.

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#46 FireEmblem_Man
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@mowgly1 said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:

@Ant_17: Gran Turismo Sport didn't sell that well compared to old entries

01./00. [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 (SCE) - 634,769 / NEW

03./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (SCE) - 115,748 / NEW

04./00. [PSP] Gran Turismo (SCE) - 134,000 / NEW

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (SCE) - 430.707 / NEW

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 <RCE> (SCE) - 204.784 / NEW

You should include that PS3 install base was 10 mil in Japan during GT6 release. PS4 is now over 5 mil. Problem?

Yes, there's a problem, console market is shrinking in Japan and no one is pointing it out.

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#47 Techhog89
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What?

So just give up on a large market completely?

It's not a large market for Microsoft. Xbox One has sold 81k units total in Japan. Every Sony and Nintendo console and handheld sold more than that in their opening week. Every single one except Virtual Boy. What's the point? They're not making any money, I can tell you that, and I doubt that it's helping them with Japanese support. It just seems like a waste.

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#48 lrdfancypants
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@techhog89:

Yep. Give up. I mean there is no reason to re-evaluate the situation and determine why there is such a huge drop off from the 360 and try to correct it.

They should probably knock off other markets while there at it.

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#49 Techhog89
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@lrdfancypants: 360 was a massive flop there as well. It did a lot better, but a million over 8 years isn't anything to cheer about. There's also nothing they can do to fix the situation. They'll never be as popular as Nintendo or Sony there, and the dedicated console market in Japan is very weak. They'd basically need to buy exclusive rights to Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, and Monster Hunter to stand a chance, and that would ultimately cost them more money than it makes them... And Nintendo would still dominate them due to portability, Pokemon, Mario, Animal Crossing and Splatoon. Sorry, but I just don't see a scenario where Microsoft can be successful in Japan. It's better for them to cut their losses since they probably haven't made a penny from Japan since the OG Xbox. If you combine the sales of all Xbox hardware, Japan counts for less than 1% of sales. That's not going to cover marketing or distribution costs, and there's never going to be a way to turn it around.

I really hope that you've never said that Nintendo should go third-party, or else the irony and hypocrisy will reach new levels.

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#50  Edited By Kashiwaba
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This is not counting Digital sales, online focused games sell a lot through digital sales in Japan compared to physical copies, Destiny 2 still +80k, everybody's golf sold +40k and so.