Mediocre Single Player Campaign with Amazing Online.....

games should score AAA? Lately I've been thinking about this and how games like COD4, and RB6V have all scored AAA considering their Single Player Campaigns can be beaten in 5 hours with no real substance. These games thrieve on online play, without it would we really be talking about them to this day?

Shouldn't games SPCs have the most weight in a review, considering not everyone plays online and with some cases have to pay 50 dollars a year just to access it's online functionality?

Would you recommend a friend to pay full price for either COD4/RB6V knowing that they have no access to playing these games online? I know I wouldn't.

EDIT: I've edit out two titles because people can't handle their precious exclusives being listed.

MGS4 can be beaten in 5 hours (to get the big boss emblem).

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MGS4 can be beaten in 5 hours (to get the big boss emblem).

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NiTiZ

I prefer multiplayer, and I would want it to be weighed more heavily as thats what you spend most time doing. You don't spend most of the time replaying the single player 4 times, that would get boring, repetitive and unfun very fast. I dont know why anyone would want to do it even if the game is amazing.

If you have no access to playing these games online, I dont know what world these people live in, but they must not know what these new fangled series of tubes are.diped

MGS4 can be beaten in 5 hours (to get the big boss emblem).

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NiTiZ

Your Logic FAIL.

the single player length is irrelevent. WHat matters is the fun to be had while playing it. COD 4 and Gears single player campaigns are seriously amazing.

Heavenly sword however...........

MGS4 can be beaten in 5 hours (to get the big boss emblem).

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NiTiZ

Yeah but you purposely have to rush the game, You can't take your time at all... Normally it takes about 16-10 hours or so...

Yeah I agree, Games like Uncharted and Ratchet have much better single player than Call of Duty which has good single player and great multiplayer but in the end, even if the game does have online, its the single player mode that stands out more than the multi player.

[QUOTE="NiTiZ"]

MGS4 can be beaten in 5 hours (to get the big boss emblem).

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Silenthps

Your Logic FAIL.

games should score AAA? Lately I've been thinking about this and how games like Halo 3, COD4, RB6V, and GeoW have all scored AAA considering their Single Player Campaigns can be beaten in 5 hours with no real substance. These games thrieve on online play, without it would we really be talking about them to this day?

Shouldn't games SPCs have the most weight in a review, considering not everyone plays online and with some cases have to pay 50 dollars a year just to access it's online functionality?

Would you recommend a friend to pay full price for either Halo 3/COD4/RB6VGeoW knowing that they have no access to playing these games online? I know I wouldn't.

W1NGMAN-

first no, after they played, they would beg to pay me more

MGS4 can be beaten in 5 hours (to get the big boss emblem).

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NiTiZ

Ok Jive, I get you don't like MGS4 or anything PS3 related but there is a time and place for it and right now isn't the time nor place.

[QUOTE="NiTiZ"]

MGS4 can be beaten in 5 hours (to get the big boss emblem).

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Silenthps

Your Logic FAIL.

My point being, that he said games like Halo 3 etc could be beaten in 5 hours. Well congrats for him, but when playing through it normally on the correct difficulty, the length will be increased. Another spin doctor at work.

the single player length is irrelevent. WHat matters is the fun to be had while playing it. COD 4 and Gears single player campaigns are seriously amazing.

Heavenly sword however...........

-GhostMLD-

Wasn't Heavenly Sword only problem was it was short and had no replaybility? So I guess it was fun but there was not enough of it...

[QUOTE="diped"]I prefer multiplayer, and I would want it to be weighed more heavily as thats what you spend most time doing. You don't spend most of the time replaying the single player 4 times, that would get boring, repetitive and unfun very fast. I dont know why anyone would want to do it even if the game is amazing.

If you have no access to playing these games online, I dont know what world these people live in, but they must not know what these new fangled series of tubes are.Nintendo_Ownes7

the single player length is irrelevent. WHat matters is the fun to be had while playing it. COD 4 and Gears single player campaigns are seriously amazing.

Heavenly sword however...........

-GhostMLD-

I don't want this to turn into a fanboy war so I'll just stick with you calling COD4 single player "seriously amazing"?!? It was boring, repetitive, had a weak story, and on top of that I beat it in 6 hours on my first play through.

games should score AAA? Lately I've been thinking about this and how games like Halo 3, COD4, RB6V, and GeoW have all scored AAA considering their Single Player Campaigns can be beaten in 5 hours with no real substance. These games thrieve on online play, without it would we really be talking about them to this day?

Shouldn't games SPCs have the most weight in a review, considering not everyone plays online and with some cases have to pay 50 dollars a year just to access it's online functionality?

Would you recommend a friend to pay full price for either Halo 3/COD4/RB6VGeoW knowing that they have no access to playing these games online? I know I wouldn't.

W1NGMAN-

[QUOTE="NiTiZ"]

MGS4 can be beaten in 5 hours (to get the big boss emblem).

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sam280992

Yeah but you purposely have to rush the game, You can't take your time at all... Normally it takes about 16-10 hours or so...

Yeah I agree, Games like Uncharted and Ratchet have much better single player than Call of Duty which has good single player and great multiplayer but in the end, even if the game does have online, its the single player mode that stands out more than the multi player.

the single player length is irrelevent. WHat matters is the fun to be had while playing it. COD 4 and Gears single player campaigns are seriously amazing.

Heavenly sword however...........

-GhostMLD-

COD4 amazing, "Gears" was atrocious.

Would you guys hate the thought of games being reviewed seperately?! One score given to the single player campaign and another score given to the online play? :o

Honestly as a consumer I would love it, I can click on the COD4 review and see "well the SPC isn't all that great, but hey the online multiplayer is suppose to be freakin sick"

I prefer multiplayer, and I would want it to be weighed more heavily as thats what you spend most time doing. You don't spend most of the time replaying the single player 4 times, that would get boring, repetitive and unfun very fast. I dont know why anyone would want to do it even if the game is amazing.

If you have no access to playing these games online, I dont know what world these people live in, but they must not know what these new fangled series of tubes are.

I wouldn't reccommend buying a console at all if the person didnt have the internets. Unless they want to just rent every single game. I mean why would you buy a single player only game? I guess they would save some money by only renting, but they wouldn't be experiance what should be the best part of every game today, the online multiplayer.diped

why would people buy games for the gamecube or generations before that when there was no such thing as online gameing? that was the golden days when developers made there games with some replay value in the single player department

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="NiTiZ"]

MGS4 can be beaten in 5 hours (to get the big boss emblem).

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NiTiZ

Your Logic FAIL.

My point being, that he said games like Halo 3 etc could be beaten in 5 hours. Well congrats for him, but when playing through it normally on the correct difficulty, the length will be increased. Another spin doctor at work.

Would you guys hate the thought of games being reviewed seperately?! One score given to the single player campaign and another score given to the online play? :o

Honestly as a consumer I would love it, I can click on the COD4 review and see "well the SPC isn't all that great, but hey the online multiplayer is suppose to be freakin sick"

W1NGMAN-

Pretty useless considering reviews always mention the single player and multiplayer aspects anyways. Do you just want separate reviews so that the single player and multiplayer will have different scores? Pretty stupid, you should read reviews, not just look at the score.

halo 3's and gears of war's single player was longer than 5 hours lawlessx

Would you guys hate the thought of games being reviewed seperately?! One score given to the single player campaign and another score given to the online play? :o

Honestly as a consumer I would love it, I can click on the COD4 review and see "well the SPC isn't all that great, but hey the online multiplayer is suppose to be freakin sick"

W1NGMAN-

one genral score is easier. Keep it simple.

besides, want to know how the SP and MP play? read the review. They are broken up into paragrapghs u know.

Besides, Warhawk and SOCOM will get AT BEST a 5 out of 10. Thats IF the MP scores a 10. however the SP being 0 each will drag down their overall score. Total ownage.....just stick to one score.

I agree I would rather have an Amazing Single Player Campaign with no Multiplayer then a Mediocre Single Player Campaign with Amazing Online Multiplayer.Nintendo_Ownes7

same here

but you can have short, but amazing single player campaigns .. they should be around 10 hrs minimum though IMO

[QUOTE="sam280992"][QUOTE="NiTiZ"]

MGS4 can be beaten in 5 hours (to get the big boss emblem).

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GUNpoint_

Yeah but you purposely have to rush the game, You can't take your time at all... Normally it takes about 16-10 hours or so...

Yeah I agree, Games like Uncharted and Ratchet have much better single player than Call of Duty which has good single player and great multiplayer but in the end, even if the game does have online, its the single player mode that stands out more than the multi player.

It took me 17 hours to beat the first time, and I'm sorry but last time I checked cutscenes where part of a game and considering how well and amazing the cutscenes were done in MGS4 they only helped but make the experience that much better.

You have a very good and valid point.

But I disagree with you about COD4 and GeOW, they had amazing SP, however, developers should and I repeat it is a priority to make the SP better than MP no matter what age and generation we are living in, the standard of gaming is the "story mode", this is what it is called back in the day not the horribly put "single player campaign".

If they want to concentrate heavily for online then they should make the game online only, making a garbage story mode and a superior online "supposed" to hurt any game, these days I see the opposite from reviewers.

Single player or story mode is what made the industry what it is today.

the single player length is irrelevent. WHat matters is the fun to be had while playing it. COD 4 and Gears single player campaigns are seriously amazing.

Heavenly sword however...........

-GhostMLD-

Man you are funny. HS SP experiance is way better then COD4 and Gears SP. Gears has a boring story with characters I could care less about and COD4 your basicly a cardbord box with a gun and no personality. COD4 SP was just plain crap.

[QUOTE="GUNpoint_"][QUOTE="sam280992"][QUOTE="NiTiZ"]

MGS4 can be beaten in 5 hours (to get the big boss emblem).

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W1NGMAN-

Yeah but you purposely have to rush the game, You can't take your time at all... Normally it takes about 16-10 hours or so...

Yeah I agree, Games like Uncharted and Ratchet have much better single player than Call of Duty which has good single player and great multiplayer but in the end, even if the game does have online, its the single player mode that stands out more than the multi player.

It took me 17 hours to beat the first time, and I'm sorry but last time I checked cutscenes where part of a game and considering how well and amazing the cutscenes were done in MGS4 they only helped but make the experience that much better.

Well Halo 3, watching cutscenes and all, and not purposely rushing through the game, does not take 5 hours.

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]I agree I would rather have an Amazing Single Player Campaign with no Multiplayer then a Mediocre Single Player Campaign with Amazing Online Multiplayer.akif22

same here

but you can have short, but amazing single player campaigns .. they should be around 10 hrs minimum though IMO

[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

Would you guys hate the thought of games being reviewed seperately?! One score given to the single player campaign and another score given to the online play? :o

Honestly as a consumer I would love it, I can click on the COD4 review and see "well the SPC isn't all that great, but hey the online multiplayer is suppose to be freakin sick"

-GhostMLD-

one genral score is easier. Keep it simple.

besides, want to know how the SP and MP play? read the review. They are broken up into paragrapghs u know.

Besides, Warhawk and SOCOM will get AT BEST a 5 out of 10. Thats IF the MP scores a 10. however the SP being 0 each will drag down their overall score. Total ownage.....just stick to one score.

[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"][QUOTE="sam280992"][QUOTE="NiTiZ"]

MGS4 can be beaten in 5 hours (to get the big boss emblem).

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NiTiZ

Yeah but you purposely have to rush the game, You can't take your time at all... Normally it takes about 16-10 hours or so...

Yeah I agree, Games like Uncharted and Ratchet have much better single player than Call of Duty which has good single player and great multiplayer but in the end, even if the game does have online, its the single player mode that stands out more than the multi player.

It took me 17 hours to beat the first time, and I'm sorry but last time I checked cutscenes where part of a game and considering how well and amazing the cutscenes were done in MGS4 they only helped but make the experience that much better.

Well Halo 3, watching cutscenes and all, and not purposely rushing through the game, does not take 5 hours.

halo 3 was nearly 20 on legendary... probably 100 or more with all skulls on. and it is great. really they do have good sungle players, just FPSes get repetivie if they are too long.crunchUK

just 1 question: is halo 3 on legendary with all skulls turned on hard?

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

Would you guys hate the thought of games being reviewed seperately?! One score given to the single player campaign and another score given to the online play? :o

Honestly as a consumer I would love it, I can click on the COD4 review and see "well the SPC isn't all that great, but hey the online multiplayer is suppose to be freakin sick"

GUNpoint_

one genral score is easier. Keep it simple.

besides, want to know how the SP and MP play? read the review. They are broken up into paragrapghs u know.

Besides, Warhawk and SOCOM will get AT BEST a 5 out of 10. Thats IF the MP scores a 10. however the SP being 0 each will drag down their overall score. Total ownage.....just stick to one score.

I know.

[QUOTE="NiTiZ"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"][QUOTE="GUNpoint_"][QUOTE="sam280992"][QUOTE="NiTiZ"]

MGS4 can be beaten in 5 hours (to get the big boss emblem).

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GUNpoint_

Yeah but you purposely have to rush the game, You can't take your time at all... Normally it takes about 16-10 hours or so...

Yeah I agree, Games like Uncharted and Ratchet have much better single player than Call of Duty which has good single player and great multiplayer but in the end, even if the game does have online, its the single player mode that stands out more than the multi player.

It took me 17 hours to beat the first time, and I'm sorry but last time I checked cutscenes where part of a game and considering how well and amazing the cutscenes were done in MGS4 they only helped but make the experience that much better.

Well Halo 3, watching cutscenes and all, and not purposely rushing through the game, does not take 5 hours.

Quality > Quantity.

[QUOTE="crunchUK"]halo 3 was nearly 20 on legendary... probably 100 or more with all skulls on. and it is great. really they do have good sungle players, just FPSes get repetivie if they are too long.TheSeaBehindYou

just 1 question: is halo 3 on legendary with all skulls turned on hard?

extremely hard

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

the single player length is irrelevent. WHat matters is the fun to be had while playing it. COD 4 and Gears single player campaigns are seriously amazing.

Heavenly sword however...........

finalfantasy94

Man you are funny. HS SP experiance is way better then COD4 and Gears SP. Gears has a boring story with characters I could care less about and COD4 your basicly a cardbord box with a gun and no personality. COD4 SP was just plain crap.

thank god ur opinion is a minority, most love Gears SP. Most love COD4 SP even more.

[QUOTE="crunchUK"]halo 3 was nearly 20 on legendary... probably 100 or more with all skulls on. and it is great. really they do have good sungle players, just FPSes get repetivie if they are too long.TheSeaBehindYou

just 1 question: is halo 3 on legendary with all skulls turned on hard?

According to Bungie 1 month ago, only 2 people have beaten it on legendary with all skulls turned on.

Anyways, thats your opinion TC, what if I think games should be weighed more on multiplayer cause thats were the long term value is?

[QUOTE="NiTiZ"]Well Halo 3, watching cutscenes and all, and not purposely rushing through the game, does not take 5 hours.GUNpoint_

My response was directed to W1NGMAN, not you. But dont cry about it.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

the single player length is irrelevent. WHat matters is the fun to be had while playing it. COD 4 and Gears single player campaigns are seriously amazing.

Heavenly sword however...........

-GhostMLD-

Man you are funny. HS SP experiance is way better then COD4 and Gears SP. Gears has a boring story with characters I could care less about and COD4 your basicly a cardbord box with a gun and no personality. COD4 SP was just plain crap.

thank god ur opinion is a minority, most love Gears SP. Most love COD4 SP even more.

gears mp rocks, i havent plehed cod 4's but it does, too, prolly

[QUOTE="crunchUK"]halo 3 was nearly 20 on legendary... probably 100 or more with all skulls on. and it is great. really they do have good sungle players, just FPSes get repetivie if they are too long.TheSeaBehindYou

just 1 question: is halo 3 on legendary with all skulls turned on hard?

[QUOTE="TheSeaBehindYou"]

[QUOTE="crunchUK"]halo 3 was nearly 20 on legendary... probably 100 or more with all skulls on. and it is great. really they do have good sungle players, just FPSes get repetivie if they are too long.user_nat

just 1 question: is halo 3 on legendary with all skulls turned on hard?

According to Bungie 1 month ago, only 2 people have beaten it on legendary with all skulls turned on.

Anyways, thats your opinion TC, what if I think games should be weighed more on multiplayer cause thats were the long term value is?

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