MEGATON: Final Fantasy 7 Remake Free for PS Plus users in March??! Edit: confirmed.

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#101 Pedro
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@kingtito said:

Which pretty much is the entire reason it's not a full game even if it's 40 hours long. Cows would have a point if the OG didn't exist. Sadly for them it does and in any event why do they care so much what anyone wants to call it. How does that detract from their enjoyment?

Cows sure like to make a mountain out of a molehill, it's either that or my opinion means sooooo much to them

It would be the entire reason for some gamers to view it as not a full game. All of this is a matter of perspective. I don't believe one is more right than the other because I see both as equally valid.

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#102  Edited By AhReQueNoMori
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@Pedro said: @kingtito: FF7 Remake is an oddity. In one instance it is not the "full game" because the original has the completed story and the Remake retells just a portion of the full story. But on the other hand, there are many games that are part of a series and each game is considered a full game. What makes FF7 Remake odd is the existence of the original.

"In one instance"? What happened the other times?

FFVII Remake doesn't retell the story of the original. Lems have no idea what this game actually is and it's hillarious.

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#103  Edited By sakaiXx
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@kingtito said:
@Pedro said:

@kingtito:FF7 Remake is an oddity. In one instance it is not the "full game" because the original has the completed story and the Remake retells just a portion of the full story. But on the other hand, there are many games that are part of a series and each game is considered a full game. What makes FF7 Remake odd is the existence of the original.

Which pretty much is the entire reason it's not a full game even if it's 40 hours long. Cows would have a point if the OG didn't exist. Sadly for them it does and in any event why do they care so much what anyone wants to call it. How does that detract from their enjoyment?

Cows sure like to make a mountain out of a molehill, it's either that or my opinion means sooooo much to them

FF7 Ever Crisis is the remake of FF7, FF7R is the sequel to the compilation. Spoiler alert.

Many FF7 fans have the same concern on the partial release but after playing FF7R, many finally understood its not really a remake but more like a proper sequel to Compilation of FF7. The story took a very different path near the end and through bullshitery many dead characters now alive somewhere and the gang off to a new unknown journey. Spoiler by the way but need to go there to explain why people finally accepted FF7R the way it is.

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#104  Edited By Pedro
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When you unable to read and comprehend, the above +1 happens. 😂🤣

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#105 AhReQueNoMori
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@sakaixx: Ah don't tell them! It's just part of a remake! It's a scam!

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@kingtito said:

Which pretty much is the entire reason it's not a full game even if it's 40 hours long. Cows would have a point if the OG didn't exist. Sadly for them it does and in any event why do they care so much what anyone wants to call it. How does that detract from their enjoyment?

Cows sure like to make a mountain out of a molehill, it's either that or my opinion means sooooo much to them

I'm certainly no cow, just ask anyone here, but I have beaten the game and it goes in a different direction than the original game. At a certain point the timeline changes for good. Therefor the games cannot be compared lengthwise or chronologically.

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#107  Edited By AhReQueNoMori
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@Pedro: you are*

For future reference: "on the one hand". You learned something today. Yay!

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#108 Pedro
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It is funny seeing someone owned themselves by not reading then trying to wiggle out of it. 😂

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#109 lundy86_4
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lol at pedants.

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#110 AhReQueNoMori
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I had a good laugh. Peace out kids.

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#111 AhReQueNoMori
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@Pedro said:

It is funny seeing someone owned themselves by not reading then trying to wiggle out of it. 😂

You mean "own"?

OK I'll stop. Sorry. Bye ^^

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#112  Edited By Miyomatic
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@kingtito said:
@Miyomatic said:
@kingtito said:
@Miyomatic said:

Lots of idiots here saying this 40+ hr action rpg is somehow only part of a full game. These same idiots will likely hype Halo Infinite's 6 hr campaign.

Now aren't MOST RPGs long games? Doesn't negate the fact that FF7 remake ISonly part of the full game. How long part 1 is inconsequential because it's STILL only part of the full game. Only idiots would fail to see this

Wait, I'm confused. Are you arguing on the premise that FFVII: Remake is part of an existing game, presumably the original FFVII???

FFVII: Remake is a retelling/reimagining of the original story. It's game mechanics and world have been changed and expanded in every possible way. The two games aren't even comparable outside of story, and even the story is expanded and much more fleshed out. Does FFVII: Remake tell PART of the original game's story? Of course, but that isn't what you're implying. The fact is FFVII: Remake is not part of an existing game, like DLC is. It is a standalone game, just as Part 2 will be.

The concept isn't hard to understand. You either take something that exists and build upon it, or you take ideas from something that exists and implement that into something entirely new that is built from the ground up.

Again, idiots...

You're a cow so that goes without saying and understandable.

FF7 Remake is PART 1 as in not the entire game. You can argue all you want but the OG FF7 was 1 game not broken up into 3 or 4 like the remake. There is no argument there buddy.

Still part 1 no matter how much crying you do.

No, it's part 1 of the main game. They broke into 4 sections rather than releasing it as 1 game like the OG version. I suspect milking and gullible cows has something to do with it not to mention charging $70 per part is going to make them a hell of a lot more money.

Or you make a remake of an already existing but very old game and break it into 4 parts and charge $70 per. It's almost like charging $40 for a demo......hmm now where have I seen that before.

Again, idiots

Still confused? So sorry, I'm trying to make it real simple so that even you can understand.

First, not a cow.

Second, part of a story =/= part of a game. Remake includes part of the original's story. It is a completely separate, full-fledged game.

According to you, each separate LOTR film is only "part" of a movie. Are you only seeing part of a movie when you watch one of them? Can you even watch the entire movie if all of them combined don't tell the entirety of the original story? So according to your own logic, a full LOTR movie doesn't exist?

I am losing brain cells trying to make this any easier for you to understand. Again, idiots. Don't sniff paint, kids.

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@wonderwinner: "Get rekt kid"

I didn't know that you were a child, maybe i will write it in colour so you can read it 🤣🤣🤣

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#114 lundy86_4
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@Miyomatic said:
According to you, each separate LOTR film is only "part" of a movie. Are you only seeing part of a movie when you watch one of them? Can you even watch the entire movie if all of them combined don't tell the entirety of the original story? So according to your own logic, a full LOTR movie doesn't exist?

Those movies iterated each book individually, and not the story as a whole. The Hobbit movies broke a book down and were largely panned, but not solely for breaking the story apart.

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#115 kingtito
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@Miyomatic said:

Still confused? So sorry, I'm trying to make it real simple so that even you can understand.

First, not a cow.

Second, part of a story =/= part of a game. Remake includes part of the original's story. It is a completely separate, full-fledged game.

According to you, each separate LOTR film is only "part" of a movie. Are you only seeing part of a movie when you watch one of them? Can you even watch the entire movie if all of them combined don't tell the entirety of the original story? So according to your own logic, a full LOTR movie doesn't exist?

I am losing brain cells trying to make this any easier for you to understand. Again, idiots. Don't sniff paint, kids.

Not a cow, cows seem to be the only confused ones

LOTR is and always has been a trilogy not a single movie or book in this case. FF7 not the case, it was a single game being remade and revamp for modern times since the OG 20 year old gameplay wouldn't of been a good choice. Bad analogy is bad

Ahh don't be a sore loser kid, soon as you start name calling you've already lost. Just move along and take the L son.

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#116 Miyomatic
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@kingtito said:
@Miyomatic said:

Still confused? So sorry, I'm trying to make it real simple so that even you can understand.

First, not a cow.

Second, part of a story =/= part of a game. Remake includes part of the original's story. It is a completely separate, full-fledged game.

According to you, each separate LOTR film is only "part" of a movie. Are you only seeing part of a movie when you watch one of them? Can you even watch the entire movie if all of them combined don't tell the entirety of the original story? So according to your own logic, a full LOTR movie doesn't exist?

I am losing brain cells trying to make this any easier for you to understand. Again, idiots. Don't sniff paint, kids.

Not a cow, cows seem to be the only confused ones

LOTR is and always has been a trilogy not a single movie or book in this case. FF7 not the case, it was a single game being remade and revamp for modern times since the OG 20 year old gameplay wouldn't of been a good choice. Bad analogy is bad

Ahh don't be a sore loser kid, soon as you start name calling you've already lost. Just move along and take the L son.

And the Hobbit? The analogy stands, lil buddy.

Keep dodging if you want, or, if you really think each movie is only a "part" of a full movie, cool. Just admit it and we can all move on knowing you have a crooked view of reality. No need to keep hanging on to falsehoods.

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#117 Miyomatic
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@lundy86_4 said:
@Miyomatic said:
According to you, each separate LOTR film is only "part" of a movie. Are you only seeing part of a movie when you watch one of them? Can you even watch the entire movie if all of them combined don't tell the entirety of the original story? So according to your own logic, a full LOTR movie doesn't exist?

Those movies iterated each book individually, and not the story as a whole. The Hobbit movies broke a book down and were largely panned, but not solely for breaking the story apart.

Thanks for this, I'm not exactly a super fan but glad to know the Hobbit movies serve the same example I laid out.

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@Miyomatic said:

And the Hobbit? The analogy stands, lil buddy.

Keep dodging if you want, or, if you really think each movie is only a "part" of a full movie, cool. Just admit it and we can all move on knowing you have a crooked view of reality. No need to keep hanging on to falsehoods.

It doesn't, as you stipulated LOTR. 3 independent books, with 3 independent movies. The Hobbit was largely lambasted for splitting the story as I stated above...

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#119 lundy86_4
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@Miyomatic said:

Thanks for this, I'm not exactly a super fan but glad to know the Hobbit movies serve the same example I laid out.

They counteract your point... The Hobbit was diluted into 3 films and was largely criticized. LOTR was a 3 book story, made into 3 films.

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#120 ___gamemaster__
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great game. though i would still prefer ff7 original due to its more of a complete game. anyhow its still great.

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#121  Edited By Miyomatic
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@lundy86_4 said:
@Miyomatic said:

And the Hobbit? The analogy stands, lil buddy.

Keep dodging if you want, or, if you really think each movie is only a "part" of a full movie, cool. Just admit it and we can all move on knowing you have a crooked view of reality. No need to keep hanging on to falsehoods.

It doesn't, as you stipulated LOTR. 3 independent books, with 3 independent movies. The Hobbit was largely lambasted for splitting the story as I stated above...

Just because it was lambasted for those reasons doesn't mean each of the three Hobbit movies is only "part" of one overall movie. They may tell part of the story, but as I stated above, part of a story =/= part of a game. A full game can tell a part of another game's overall story.

The point is when you say "FFVII: Remake is 25% of a full game", well, that's just objectively false. If you instead say "25% of the full story", fine, we can agree on that.

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#122 lundy86_4
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@Miyomatic said:

Just because it was lambasted for those reasons doesn't mean each of the three Hobbit movies is only "part" of one overall movie. They may tell part of the story, but as I stated above, part of a story =/= part of a game. A full game can tell a part of another game's overall story.

The point is when you say "FFVII: Remake is 25% of a full game", well, that's just objectively false.

Jesus Christ. You stipulated, and I quote:

@Miyomatic said:
According to you, each separate LOTR film is only "part" of a movie. Are you only seeing part of a movie when you watch one of them? Can you even watch the entire movie if all of them combined don't tell the entirety of the original story? So according to your own logic, a full LOTR movie doesn't exist?

LOTR was a 3-book narrative, with a 3 movie representation. Your analogy was incorrect. The Hobbit was a single book split into 3 movies, and was largely lambasted for that move... Kinda like FF7R.

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#123  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@lundy86_4: Not sure "split" is the right word.

"make shit up to pad it out" seems more accurate. Like, has almost fuckall to do with the book.

Can actually level that at LOTR as well, bears very little resemblance but thematically, it follows his ideas, which is what really matters.

The Hobbit is a jovial childrens tale that gets turned into Elf 3 way cringe romance, half the cast murdered and samurai fights with albino orcs.

Suppose to come back from a fun, gay (not that usage) adventure. Instead it's like he's came back from fucking Nam' or something.

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#124  Edited By Miyomatic
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@lundy86_4 said:
@Miyomatic said:

Just because it was lambasted for those reasons doesn't mean each of the three Hobbit movies is only "part" of one overall movie. They may tell part of the story, but as I stated above, part of a story =/= part of a game. A full game can tell a part of another game's overall story.

The point is when you say "FFVII: Remake is 25% of a full game", well, that's just objectively false.

Jesus Christ. You stipulated, and I quote:

@Miyomatic said:
According to you, each separate LOTR film is only "part" of a movie. Are you only seeing part of a movie when you watch one of them? Can you even watch the entire movie if all of them combined don't tell the entirety of the original story? So according to your own logic, a full LOTR movie doesn't exist?

LOTR was a 3-book narrative, with a 3 movie representation. Your analogy was incorrect. The Hobbit was a single book split into 3 movies, and was largely lambasted for that move... Kinda like FF7R.

You are hung up on the fact that I originally named LOTR in my example rather than lasering in on The Hobbit, and correctly pointed out my mistake. Cool, you're really, really into LOTR. You don't need to try and prove how much of a superfan you are, I get it. But don't let that cause you to lose sight of the point.

It doesn't erase the fact that the Hobbit movies serve as the perfect comparison, and the fact remains there were three full movies that told the same story as a single book did. But again, they were three full movies, each telling a part of an overall story. Yes, JUST like FFVIIR is a fullgame telling part of an overall story.

I really don't get the pushback. It really does seem like the same crowd that was mad they broke up the Hobbit is still here years later crying about FFVIIR.

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Great for those who jumped to the winning horse. They get to play a GOTY nominee

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#126 Chutebox
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@kingtito: The end of the remake makes it clear it's not following the same story.

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#127 deactivated-611edca0d6021
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@i_p_daily: I see you're still triggered.

Get over it. 😎

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@Miyomatic said:
@kingtito said:
@Miyomatic said:

Still confused? So sorry, I'm trying to make it real simple so that even you can understand.

First, not a cow.

Second, part of a story =/= part of a game. Remake includes part of the original's story. It is a completely separate, full-fledged game.

According to you, each separate LOTR film is only "part" of a movie. Are you only seeing part of a movie when you watch one of them? Can you even watch the entire movie if all of them combined don't tell the entirety of the original story? So according to your own logic, a full LOTR movie doesn't exist?

I am losing brain cells trying to make this any easier for you to understand. Again, idiots. Don't sniff paint, kids.

Not a cow, cows seem to be the only confused ones

LOTR is and always has been a trilogy not a single movie or book in this case. FF7 not the case, it was a single game being remade and revamp for modern times since the OG 20 year old gameplay wouldn't of been a good choice. Bad analogy is bad

Ahh don't be a sore loser kid, soon as you start name calling you've already lost. Just move along and take the L son.

And the Hobbit? The analogy stands, lil buddy.

Keep dodging if you want, or, if you really think each movie is only a "part" of a full movie, cool. Just admit it and we can all move on knowing you have a crooked view of reality. No need to keep hanging on to falsehoods.

No son it doesn't. The Hobbit was broken into 3 movies but a continuation of the 1 book. Still a bad analogy

FF7 Remake was made for suckers like you son. 25% of the game made to milk you just like charging $40 for a demo or full boat for a remaster of a year old game. Sony knows it's customers well

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#129 VFighter
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@kingtito: WTF are you blabbering on and on about?

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@vfighter said:

@kingtito: WTF are you blabbering on and on about?

The game is not on the Xbox. It needs to be done.

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@wonderwinner said:

@i_p_daily: I see you're still triggered.

Get over it. 😎

Learn how to comprehend what you read, or get someone to explain it to you ok 🐄 alty.

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#132 Dark_sageX
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Yeah I'm just gonna keep ignoring this game until they ACTUALLY make a COMPLETE remake and release it on PC so I can avoid the nonsense. Square Enix is ripping playstation players off and they are too deep in the sony cheer leading squad to see it...

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#133 sakaiXx
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@Dark_sageX: spoiler alerrt, its not a remake.

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#134 remiks00
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Good news for ps+ subs (although it isnt the upgraded version :\ ). But this really isn't a "megaton" tbh. lol

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#135 PC_Rocks
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@sakaixx said:
@pc_rocks said:

Someone actually wrote that about FF.

Look at Steam most played, F2P dominated the top 10. PCMR....

Look at PS top played, CoD, Fifa among other yearly rehashes dominated. LOL cows...

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Usual suspect is still crying.

Pathetic. 😎

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#137 Pedro
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@pc_rocks said:
@sakaixx said:

Look at Steam most played, F2P dominated the top 10. PCMR....

Look at PS top played, CoD, Fifa among other yearly rehashes dominated. LOL cows...

Damn! Good one sir.

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#138  Edited By Pedro
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The DLC for this game is a PS5 exclusive. 😂🤣 PS4 owners are going to be left out.

An FAQ page was uploaded after Intergrade's reveal during the most recent Sony State of Play broadcast. The Yuffie Episode was announced alongside Intergrade, but is a separate piece of DLC – but Square Enix has made clear that it won't be coming to PS4. The FAQ says that, "the new Yuffie Episode is optimized for PlayStation 5, so it is not available on PlayStation 4."

This means that the only way to access the Yuffie Episode is to buy Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade on PS5 or, if you own a PlayStation 4 version of Final Fantasy VII Remake and a PlayStation 5, upgrade your version of the game – but you will still need to purchase the Yuffie Episode separately if you upgrade.

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#139 deactivated-611edca0d6021
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Usual troll bringing old info thinking it's new and failing at trolling.

Typical. 😎

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#140 Pedro
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Stating facts really upset some folks. 😂

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#141 pmanden
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I am confused about this game. If I want it for PS5 in the future with all the upgrades and the new Yuffie DLC, how much will I have to pay? I don't own the PS4 version and I do not want to subscribe to PSN, I just want to buy the best possible, full version. Do I have to pay 70 USD? Or maybe 90 USD? Any help is appreciated.

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#142 WitIsWisdom
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Where as I prefer physical games I didn't really want to buy this one although I did want to try it out. This is a win/win for me. Good to see SONY trying to compete with MS and Gamepass in a way. All these types of games I don't want to purchase will be available through one of their services. Something tells me that at some point in time both of them will see that it just isn't sustainable. If people like me think it's cool since I don't actually have to purchase the games... well... that's not a good look at all. Just wait for it.

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#143 Pedro
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@pmanden said:

I am confused about this game. If I want it for PS5 in the future with all the upgrades and the new Yuffie DLC, how much will I have to pay? I don't own the PS4 version and I do not want to subscribe to PSN, I just want to buy the best possible, full version. Do I have to pay 70 USD? Or maybe 90 USD? Any help is appreciated.

You will pay $70 if you don't have the game. If you have the game, you will need to upgrade it first before you gain access to purchase the DLC which I believe is $20.

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#144 omegaMaster
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Wow. Anyone who hasn't played FF7 Remake is missing out.

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#145 pmanden
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@Pedro: Thanks for the info. I think that Sony could simplify the whole upgrade a PS4 game to the PS5 procedure. It is so simple on Xbox, at least on Xbox One X (I haven't tried the Xsex). You install your game and the console will tell you that you need an update that contains the 4k textures etc. You download the update for free. Simple and consumer-friendly.

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#146 VFighter
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@omegamaster: Got it for Xmas, can't wait to try it.

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#147 deactivated-611edca0d6021
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@pmanden: that's... Exactly how it works for this game. The new content is paid, though.

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#148  Edited By X_CAPCOM_X
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Glad I didn't buy this yet. Thanks Sony! I might just pay for the upgrade then I guess. I think that will be a fine alternative to a pc version.

Btw, next month oddworld soulstorm is free for ps5 users (could include ps4 too I think). Day one! Nice!

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#149 deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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@X_CAPCOM_X said:

Glad I didn't buy this yet. Thanks Sony! I might just pay for the upgrade then I guess. I think that will be a fine alternative to a pc version.

Btw, next month oddworld soulstorm is free for ps5 users (could include ps4 too I think). Day one! Nice!

If you have plus you could probably just get the free upgrade then purchase the Yuffie episode for $20.

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#150 hardwenzen
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If i download this weeb game. Will my brain be 'okay'? My brain melts when its too dudebro or too weeb. I need a balance.