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#1 BattleTurtles
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http://features.metacritic.com/features/2010/how-does-final-fantasy-13-compare/

"The new game is considered the 13th installment in the main series, and it actually follows a game widely considered one of the best (if not the best) in the series:Final Fantasy XII."

"It may not have the highest score, but FF12 tops many fans' lists of favorites in the series."

This is pretty weird, I haven't met that many who have actually liked FFXII, let alone considering it the best in the series.

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#2 ActicEdge
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Believe it or not people like FF12. Those people just have poor taste is all.

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#3 StealthMonkey4
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I noticed while reading that the 360 version of FFXIII has a higher metascore than the PS3 version.:o

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#4 salxis
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IIRC, don't this happen with every FF? People start praising the previous installment, and hating on the current one :P, who wants to bet when FF 15 comes out, 13 would be "classic" in some people's eye
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#5 Skittles_McGee
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Believe it or not people like FF12. Those people just have poor taste is all.

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I like FF12.  Are we gonna have some problems?
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#6 EPaul
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I think FFXII is a good game, its battle system is the best in the series but the story was kinda boring

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#7 RavenLoud
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This is pretty weird, I haven't met that many who have actually liked FFXII, let alone considering it the best in the series.

BattleTurtles

I like it :) I like it more than FFVIII (my first FF) and pretty close to FFVI. I hate FFVII and have no idea why it's so popular. FFXII had flaws but I liked it more (even way more) than FFX.

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#8 NAPK1NS
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Believe it or not people like FF12. Those people just have poor taste is all.

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FFXII is great. :|
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#9 cutmaclass1
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Believe it or not people like FF12. Those people just have poor taste is all.

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Why? Because they enjoy a Final Fantasy experience that hasn't been the same since 1986?
IIRC, don't this happen with every FF? People start praising the previous installment, and hating on the current one :P, who wants to bet when FF 15 comes out, 13 would be "classic" in some people's eyesalxis
This guy has it right. Whenever a new one comes out, the previous one suddenly becomes the golden standard.
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#10 RavenLoud
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Believe it or not people like FF12. Those people just have poor taste is all.

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Even one of the most respectable people in SW think that people with different opinions than him has poor taste :? It really says something about this place.
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#11 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Believe it or not people like FF12. Those people just have poor taste is all.

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I like FF12.  Are we gonna have some problems?

Nah, there are things worth fighting for but FF12's dignity certainly isn't one of them :P

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#12 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Believe it or not people like FF12. Those people just have poor taste is all.

RavenLoud

Even one of the most respectable people in SW think that people with different opinions than him has poor taste :? It really says something about this place.

I'm clearly joking. I don't like FF12 but those who do are free to that. (Jeez, people take their FF too seriously around here)

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#13 Merex760
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I liked Final Fantasy XII. At least it wasn't X-2.

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#14 skinny_man_69
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I really enjoyed XII....just don't go spreading it around :|

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#15 jhcho2
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heh, the 360 version getting a higher MC score despite being inferior. Must have been reviewed by xbots. One thing i notice is that lemmings will never admit or think that a 360 version can be inferior. Cows do admit but try to defend almost too tenaciously.

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#16 Lethalhazard
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FFXII has the best writing in the series IMO :X. It's also my favorite along with FFIX :P.
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#18 tagyhag
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I enjoyed FFXII as well, the combat was a huge upgrade from the older series and FFXIII made one even better.
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#19 salxis
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Believe it or not people like FF12. Those people just have poor taste is all.

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Why? Because they enjoy a Final Fantasy experience that hasn't been the same since 1986?
IIRC, don't this happen with every FF? People start praising the previous installment, and hating on the current one :P, who wants to bet when FF 15 comes out, 13 would be "classic" in some people's eyesalxis
This guy has it right. Whenever a new one comes out, the previous one suddenly becomes the golden standard.

THis is also the beauty of FF series, each game's so different to each other, you can't really generalize them into FF fans :P, how many other series out there allows this
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#20 nitromuffin
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I noticed while reading that the 360 version of FFXIII has a higher metascore than the PS3 version.:o

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prolly less reviews
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#21 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="RavenLoud"] Even one of the most respectable people in SW think that people with different opinions than him has poor taste :? It really says something about this place.Watch_My_6

I'm clearly joking. I don't like FF12 but those who do are free to that. (Jeez, people take their FF too seriously around here)

Clearly joking? That posts indicates nothing of the sort. If someone bashed a game you'd like I'd imagine you'd try to defend it.

You clearly aren't going to get it because you clearly do not know my posting style because you are clearly new. Its no secret I don't like FF12 and its no secret I clearly take shots at it in good fun. Its also fairly obvious that I don't care enough about others people's taste to actually insult it.

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#22 NightTerrorX99
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Because FF12 was not a bad game. Closed-minded, most are.
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#23 Phoenix534
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I noticed while reading that the 360 version of FFXIII has a higher metascore than the PS3 version.:o

StealthMonkey4

That's because the PS3 version has exactly twice as many reviews.

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#24 lazyathew
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[QUOTE="Watch_My_6"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I'm clearly joking. I don't like FF12 but those who do are free to that. (Jeez, people take their FF too seriously around here)

ActicEdge

Clearly joking? That posts indicates nothing of the sort. If someone bashed a game you'd like I'd imagine you'd try to defend it.

You clearly aren't going to get it because you clearly do not know my posting style because you are clearly new. Its no secret I don't like FF12 and its no secret I clearly take shots at it in good fun. Its also fairly obvious that I don't care enough about others people's taste to actually insult it.

And you clearlyshouldn't assume that everybody who reads you're posts will know you.

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#25 positivebalance
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Believe it or not people like FF12. Those people just have poor taste is all.

ActicEdge



FF12 is a hundred times deeper then FF13.

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#26 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Watch_My_6"] Clearly joking? That posts indicates nothing of the sort. If someone bashed a game you'd like I'd imagine you'd try to defend it. lazyathew

You clearly aren't going to get it because you clearly do not know my posting style because you are clearly new. Its no secret I don't like FF12 and its no secret I clearly take shots at it in good fun. Its also fairly obvious that I don't care enough about others people's taste to actually insult it.

And you clearlyshouldn't assume that everybody who reads you're posts will know you.

Uh, the person I responded to clearly knows who I am. Or else they just assume I am somehow respected in SW. Really though, I'm not sure why I am even being defensive over my position that FF12 is mediocore. It is. Anyone is free to like it though.

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#27 Bikouchu35
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I love it linear, simple, and old fashion mmmkay :P

Edit: Im not joking at all, thats why I bought it.

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#28 Tropictrain
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[QUOTE="lazyathew"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

You clearly aren't going to get it because you clearly do not know my posting style because you are clearly new. Its no secret I don't like FF12 and its no secret I clearly take shots at it in good fun. Its also fairly obvious that I don't care enough about others people's taste to actually insult it.

ActicEdge

And you clearlyshouldn't assume that everybody who reads you're posts will know you.

Uh, the person I responded to clearly knows who I am. Or else they just assume I am somehow respected in SW. Really though, I'm not sure why I am even being defensive over my position that FF12 is mediocore. It is. Anyone is free to like it though.

I got the impression he was joking, and I have no idea who the hell this guy is. This is my first time ever posting in SW actually...

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#29 enterawesome
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Yeah, it's not the best. Still an excellent game though.
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#30 SPYDER0416
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Really? Is that so?

I always thought, that FFVII was the best. I mean, everyone I know considers it the best.

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#31 TREAL_Since
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Final Fantasy 12 is one of my fav. in the series! It was a huge departure from their previous games as far as battle system. And I feel they did an amazing job with gambits. The story may not be as memorable, but the theme of war was interesting and enjoyed every character. Balthier is my favorite!
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#32 lazyathew
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[QUOTE="lazyathew"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

You clearly aren't going to get it because you clearly do not know my posting style because you are clearly new. Its no secret I don't like FF12 and its no secret I clearly take shots at it in good fun. Its also fairly obvious that I don't care enough about others people's taste to actually insult it.

ActicEdge

And you clearlyshouldn't assume that everybody who reads you're posts will know you.

Uh, the person I responded to clearly knows who I am. Or else they just assume I am somehow respected in SW. Really though, I'm not sure why I am even being defensive over my position that FF12 is mediocore. It is. Anyone is free to like it though.

Allow me to re-word that then. You shouln't asume that everyone who reads your posts will know your style. And if that person actually knows you and didn't know you were joking, then there will be plently of people who won't know you're joking. And it is just rude to say someone has a "bad taste" just because they like something you don't. And you are coninuing to do it even now... Oh well, at least anyone reading this converstaion knows you're joking nowright?

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#33 OneLazyAsian
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

I noticed while reading that the 360 version of FFXIII has a higher metascore than the PS3 version.:o

Phoenix534

That's because the PS3 version has exactly twice as many reviews.

I think that MC also made a couple of errors in their review selection. Edge gave both the PS3 and Xbox360 a 50, yet it only shows up for the PS3.

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#34 ActicEdge
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Final Fantasy 12 is one of my fav. in the series! It was a huge departure from their previous games as far as battle system. And I feel they did an amazing job with gambits. The story may not be as memorable, but the theme of war was interesting and enjoyed every character. Balthier is my favorite!TREAL_Since

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#35 W1ckedGo0se
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FF12 was not my Favorite, but it is in Top 3... I don't like how it got so much hate...
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#36 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="lazyathew"]And you clearlyshouldn't assume that everybody who reads you're posts will know you.

lazyathew

Uh, the person I responded to clearly knows who I am. Or else they just assume I am somehow respected in SW. Really though, I'm not sure why I am even being defensive over my position that FF12 is mediocore. It is. Anyone is free to like it though.

Allow me to re-word that then. You shouln't asume that everyone who reads your posts will know your style. And if that person actually knows you and didn't know you were joking, then there will be plently of people who won't know you're joking. And it is just rude to say someone has a "bad taste" just because they like something you don't. And you are coninuing to do it even now... Oh well, at least anyone reading this converstaion knows you're joking nowright?

Okay, let me rephrase. FF12 is mediocore imo. Anyone who likes it however doesn't have poor taste, just different. You are free to like whatever the hell you want. Jeez, this is why SW isn't fun, people get upset over the silliest things.

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#37 hakanakumono
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FFXII was a decent game, but the story is an absolute joke. For the FF series, the gameplay was a step up for the time, but now that FFXIII is on the table it's not that much of an improvement comparatively.

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#38 Mario1331
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Final Fantasy 12 is one of my fav. in the series! It was a huge departure from their previous games as far as battle system. And I feel they did an amazing job with gambits. The story may not be as memorable, but the theme of war was interesting and enjoyed every character. Balthier is my favorite!TREAL_Since

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#39 blahzor
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It's been a long time since i've really followed the FF series, but why is it that 12 is so hated by people while 10 is so loved? 10 has so much stupidity in it.. seriously, i'd love to know why.

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#40 Silenthps
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I loved final fantasy 12 up until when it started using DISEASE. now i despiiiiiiise it
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#41 yoshi_64
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IMO FF IX > XII but IX is my number one, so think where XII goes... :P
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#42 ActicEdge
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It's been a long time since i've really followed the FF series, but why is it that 12 is so hated by people while 10 is so loved? 10 has so much stupidity in it.. seriously, i'd love to know why.

blahzor

What FF doesn't have stuupidity in it? From Time compression (FF8), to chasing Sephiroth across the whole damn planet (FF7), to going inside some random giant robot(FF4), to an end game that goes up to 2 hours without a save point (FF3), to avillain who clearly passes on killing off the maincharacter like 20times and has his damn Castle connected to one of the protagonists (FF5), a Final Fantasy without none sense is not a Final Fantasy.

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#43 surrealnumber5
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Believe it or not people like FF12. Those people just have poor taste is all.

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it was far better then FFx and FFX2
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]Final Fantasy 12 is one of my fav. in the series! It was a huge departure from their previous games as far as battle system. And I feel they did an amazing job with gambits. The story may not be as memorable, but the theme of war was interesting and enjoyed every character. Balthier is my favorite!ActicEdge

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#45 blahzor
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[QUOTE="blahzor"]

It's been a long time since i've really followed the FF series, but why is it that 12 is so hated by people while 10 is so loved? 10 has so much stupidity in it.. seriously, i'd love to know why.

ActicEdge

What FF doesn't have stuupidity in it? From Time compression (FF8), to chasing Sephiroth across the whole damn planet (FF7), to going inside some random giant robot(FF4), to an end game that goes up to 2 hours without a save point (FF3), to avillain who clearly passes on killing off the maincharacter like 20times and has his damn Castle connected to one of the protagonists (FF5), a Final Fantasy without none sense is not a Final Fantasy.

Let's not bring up FF8, FF8 is bad

There are certainly ridiculous moments in eachFF game i didn't deny that.. but, 10 was just.. ugh. I'm sorry, maybe i just hate Wakka, Tidus, and Rikku to much. and blitz ball. What a stupid thing that is. I'm just curious as to why it's so loved, because i find 12 more bearable.

EDIT: btw, spoony has begun his review of FF10! i trust it'll be an epic review to span the years, like his FF8.

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#46 lazyathew
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="blahzor"]

It's been a long time since i've really followed the FF series, but why is it that 12 is so hated by people while 10 is so loved? 10 has so much stupidity in it.. seriously, i'd love to know why.

blahzor

What FF doesn't have stuupidity in it? From Time compression (FF8), to chasing Sephiroth across the whole damn planet (FF7), to going inside some random giant robot(FF4), to an end game that goes up to 2 hours without a save point (FF3), to avillain who clearly passes on killing off the maincharacter like 20times and has his damn Castle connected to one of the protagonists (FF5), a Final Fantasy without none sense is not a Final Fantasy.

Let's not bring up FF8, FF8 is bad

There are certainly ridiculous moments in eachFF game i didn't deny that.. but, 10 was just.. ugh. I'm sorry, maybe i just hate Wakka, Tidus, and Rikku to much. and blitz ball. What a stupid thing that is. I'm just curious as to why it's so loved, because i find 12 more bearable.

EDIT: btw, spoony has begun his review of FF10! i trust it'll be an epic review to span the years, like his FF8.

I like X mainly for it's battle system, I find the plot to be one of the worst i've played, but it's still kinda interesting. i also kinda like Wakka and Rikku, they are a bit funny. But it's the battle system that kept me playing.

XII, I found the plot to just be very boring, characters were boring, and the battle system was interesting at first, but gets boring fast.

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#47 Scythes777
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I liked FFXII, but without Balthier, Fran, and the battle system the game would have been **** It had a horrible and uninteresting plot and the other characters were just bad.

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#49 SteveTabernacle
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I was extremely let down with FF12. It had none of the spirit of the past games, to me. Too much political intrigue, not enough character development and drama. I also didn't like the battle system presentation. Having all battles happen on the field rather than a separate screen took away the cinematic sweeping presentation the camera gave in Final Fantasy 10. So on top of not liking many of the cast members, the battles all flat and.... normal. Even the boss battles. I did really love the game world itself though, I thought it was very well designed, especially the opening city and it's vibrant and populated underground section. So though it was a good game, it is my second least favorite of the last several installments. FF13 on the other hand, I am in love with, absolutely.
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#50 RavenLoud
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Final Fantasy 12 is one of my fav. in the series! It was a huge departure from their previous games as far as battle system. And I feel they did an amazing job with gambits. The story may not be as memorable, but the theme of war was interesting and enjoyed every character. Balthier is my favorite!TREAL_Since
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